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23:44 CrispyBran bummer. OK
23:44 aleisha no not Windows
23:43 CrispyBran Have you used it in a VM under Windows?
23:43 aleisha me
23:43 CrispyBran Is there anyone here that works with the kohadevbox?
23:36 bag it’s warmed up here cait
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23:35 bag @wunder pdx
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23:24 cait @wunder Konstanz
22:55 martian523 while having lunch. =)
22:55 martian523 but you can think on that
22:55 martian523 i'll be away as well for a while
22:55 martian523 ok. thanks
22:55 wizzycray afk for a little, imma background process this problem and have some lunch :)
22:54 wizzycray can't do that anyway really.
22:54 wizzycray mmm no
22:54 martian523 the worst case is to downgrade and upgrade again...but i really don't wanna do that
22:53 * wizzycray ponders
22:53 wizzycray hm
22:53 martian523 yes. very interesting
22:52 wizzycray this is perplexing.
22:52 wizzycray so ok we are talking to the right db, but we both do and don't think a table exists.
22:52 wizzycray anyway
22:52 wizzycray in the mysql client
22:52 wizzycray that eliminates the "use kohadb" part
22:51 wizzycray and the password from that config
22:51 martian523 in mysql?
22:51 wizzycray mysql -ukoha -p kohadb
22:51 martian523 with the paranthesis?
22:51 wizzycray (from the values in that koha-conf)
22:51 wizzycray fun trick, you can do
22:51 martian523 yes
22:51 wizzycray to get into the mysql client?
22:50 wizzycray you did something like mysql -uroot -p
22:50 martian523 database: kohadb hostname: localhost
22:50 wizzycray that was localhost?
22:50 wizzycray if you know
22:50 wizzycray and the mysql you connected to with the client
22:50 martian523 you're correct
22:49 wizzycray (I'm just trying to sort out if you are actually looking at the database you think you are)
22:48 wizzycray I'm *guessing* it will say 'kohadb' and 'localhost' but it might not!
22:48 wizzycray and for <hostname>
22:48 wizzycray and look at what the values are for <database>
22:47 wizzycray is scroll down til you see <config>
22:47 wizzycray what I do want you to do
22:47 wizzycray BUT
22:47 wizzycray for your kohadb :)
22:47 wizzycray it's got your db password in it
22:47 wizzycray um no
22:47 martian523 want me to paste it?
22:46 martian523 got it
22:46 wizzycray ^ with the sudo
22:46 wizzycray yep
22:46 wizzycray sudo less /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
22:46 martian523 you mean just type that in?
22:46 wizzycray something like less /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
22:45 wizzycray or just look at it
22:45 wizzycray in your favourite editor, open /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
22:45 wizzycray ok so
22:45 wizzycray right
22:44 wizzycray neat thank you
22:44 martian523 http://paste.koha-community.org/279
22:42 wizzycray paste them please paste.koha-community.org
22:42 wizzycray ooo
22:42 martian523 showed a list of things
22:42 wizzycray but if it does, it will be helpful
22:42 martian523 ok
22:41 wizzycray I don't know if that will work
22:41 wizzycray locate koha-conf.xml
22:41 wizzycray would you please do
22:40 martian523 ok
22:40 wizzycray exit
22:40 wizzycray ok martian523 - please exit out of the mysql client, with
22:39 martian523 all of you are very helpful and i really appreciate your help
22:38 martian523 just acquisitions
22:38 cait oh
22:38 wizzycray hm. ok
22:38 cait hm odd
22:38 martian523 catalog search works
22:38 martian523 yeah, check in check out works
22:37 cait other things work? circ and all that?
22:37 wizzycray hm, not sure how you could both have the table and not have the table.
22:35 martian523 it's ok. =) yeah, the table
22:34 wizzycray sorry I keep forgetting to put your name first
22:34 wizzycray martian523 ^
22:34 wizzycray in your mysql db, does it return anything?
22:34 wizzycray describe aqorders;
22:34 wizzycray if you do
22:29 martian523 so i guess something went missing during the upgrade??
22:29 martian523 An error occurred fetching records: Table 'kohadb.aqorders' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/spent.pl line 88.
22:28 martian523 I was trying to search for a vendor in acquisitions. I typed in the vendor name, pressed submit, and this error returned: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 2054. Then I tried just leaving the search blank and pressed submit. Same error. I also have funds listed in the acquisitions page. Tried to click on the dollar amount on the "ordered" and "spent" columns, and the follow err
22:17 cait wizzycray++ :)
22:01 martian523 sorry got to attend meeting. be back later with solving this acquisitions issue.
21:58 martian523 everything looks normal to me except for varchar(10) saying "NO" in Null column
21:57 wizzycray to see the data in that table
21:57 wizzycray select * from aqbooksellers;
21:57 wizzycray you could also do
21:57 wizzycray ah cool
21:57 martian523 so yesterday they asked me to check my table with the table they gave me
21:56 martian523 because right now my aquisitions returns with error
21:55 wizzycray in mysql
21:55 martian523 thanks!
21:55 wizzycray but, that's how you look at stuff in your kohadb :)
21:55 martian523 to check if my table matches the table they sent to me yesterday
21:55 wizzycray martian523 ^
21:55 wizzycray at this point idk what they were wanting you to check for
21:54 wizzycray describe aqbooksellers;
21:54 wizzycray use kohadb;
21:54 wizzycray great
21:54 martian523 +--------------------+ | Database | +--------------------+ | information_schema | | kohadb | | mysql | | performance_schema | +--------------------+ 4 rows in set (0.02 sec)
21:54 wizzycray martian523 ^
21:54 wizzycray you see your koha database there?
21:54 wizzycray so
21:53 * wizzycray happily pays
21:53 wahanui That'll be €1 for the awesome jar, wizzycray
21:53 wizzycray awesome.
21:53 martian523 ok, got it
21:52 wizzycray martian523 ^
21:52 wizzycray and press enter
21:52 wizzycray show databases;
21:52 martian523 ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'a show databases' at line 1
21:52 wizzycray exactly this
21:52 wizzycray do
21:52 wizzycray not surprising
21:51 martian523 when put semicolon, returns with error
21:50 wizzycray martian523 ^
21:50 wizzycray -> means you have forgotten it.
21:49 wizzycray all mysql client commands end with a semicolon
21:49 wizzycray should be what you run
21:49 wizzycray show databases;
21:49 wizzycray then enter
21:49 wizzycray put a ;
21:49 wizzycray ok, so
21:49 martian523 blank
21:49 martian523 nope. just returend with ->
21:48 wizzycray do you spot your Koha database there?
21:48 wizzycray martian523 ^
21:48 wizzycray show databases
21:48 wizzycray in your mysql client, do
21:48 wahanui somebody said right, so was the merge_authority.pl cronjob started by default? Or did I misunderstand what it is saying.
21:48 wizzycray right, so
21:47 wizzycray then you won't see anything from apt-cache policy :)
21:47 wizzycray ahh
21:47 martian523 then extracting koha-3.14.11.tar.gz file
21:47 wizzycray sudo apt-cache policy koha-common
21:47 wizzycray ok, on your command line, what do you see if you do
21:46 martian523 we initially installed koha with installing debian
21:46 cait thx wizzyrea :)
21:43 wizzycray martian523, you could try "show databases"
21:42 wizzycray so you didn't install using packages then?
21:42 cait it's usually something like koha_instancename
21:42 cait martian523: you have to do use <databasename>
21:35 martian523 got into mysql...however, mysql> describe aqbooksellers; returned with: ERROR 1046 (3D000): No database selected
20:00 martian523 sorry
19:57 huginn martian523: I've exhausted my database of quotes
19:57 martian523 @rangi got into mysql>
19:45 rangi if it doesnt, you are either on the wrong server, or you didnt install using the debian packages
19:43 rangi will tell you the instance you created
19:43 rangi sudo koha-list
19:43 rangi then
19:43 rangi so you installed with the koha packages?
19:31 martian523 right after the upgrade to 16.05.07 everything seems to be fine, until i wanted to do acquisitions
19:30 martian523 so far up to koha 3.18, we were ok
19:30 martian523 we downloaded the koha package
19:25 rangi how did you install koha then?
19:25 martian523 is that bad?
19:25 martian523 trying to look for it...seems like we didn't create it
19:23 rangi will list the instances you have created
19:23 rangi sudo koha-list
19:23 rangi if you cant remember
19:22 rangi when you ran koha-create what instancename did you choose?
19:22 martian523 what's the input for instancename? the reason we want to get into mysql shell is because we want to execute : "describe aqbooksellers;"
19:22 rangi the message tells you exactly what you need to type
19:22 rangi what is your instancename
19:21 martian523 we got to: root@debian -w01:/home/kohasysusr# koha-mysql response we got: Usage: /usr/sbin/koha-mysql instancename
19:18 martian523 Joubu, how do you get into mysql> ?
18:54 martian523 this is not fun. i hope the acquisition table can be recovered
18:53 martian523 i have to wait. IT is busy with something else
18:44 Joubu you have <user> and <pass>
18:43 martian523 we almost made it, but just don't know what the password is
18:42 martian523 i'm going crazy....
18:41 martian523 sigh....we can open the koha-conf.xml file but no password
18:34 Joubu one is defined in the koha-conf.xml file
18:34 Joubu you need to know a mysql user and its password
18:34 martian523 we've tried many different commands, but still couldn't get into MySQL shell
18:33 martian523 for some reason couldn't get in?
18:33 Joubu you need to be in the MySQL CLI
18:32 martian523 where do you find "show tables;"?
18:31 wahanui somebody said mysql was currently limited to 100MB of RAM.
18:31 Joubu mysql?
18:30 martian523 what should be typed after kohasysusr@debian -w01:~$
18:29 martian523 what's the command to mysql?
18:29 martian523 actually we can't get to mysql
18:26 martian523 hold on, let me find my IT
18:25 Joubu will return the number of tables in your DB
18:25 Joubu show tables;
18:25 martian523 yes
18:24 Joubu do you have access to the DB?
18:24 martian523 it was ok before
18:24 martian523 yep
18:24 martian523 i don't think i have a back up...
18:24 Joubu Did you use the acquisition module before the upgrade?
18:24 martian523 i don't think so
18:23 Joubu Do you have a backup of your 3.18 DB to check if the table existed before?
18:23 Joubu martian523: this table must exist
18:03 martian523 then this error came up when i clicked on the money amount in the "ordered" column and "spent" column in the funds list: An error occurred fetching records: Table 'kohadb.aqorders' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/spent.pl line 88.
18:01 martian523 the following error came up when i was trying to look up vendors in acquisitions: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 2054.
18:00 martian523 upgraded from 3.18 to 16.05.07 recently. everything seems to be running pretty smooth until i hit some errors yesterday in the acquisitions
17:59 martian523 i was trying to get some help on my koha yesterday, but couldn't finish, hopefully someone can help me today?
17:58 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
17:58 martian523 good morning!
17:49 Holdings Hey
17:49 wahanui Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
17:49 Holdings anyone?
17:48 wahanui what's up, Holdings
17:48 Holdings hello
17:42 Holdings and if a click on "null" i can see the book information
17:38 Holdings it shows "null" instead of title
17:38 Holdings and i look for a patron
17:37 Holdings when i want to see current check out
17:37 Holdings marc21
17:36 Holdings on patron details
17:36 cait_afk what marc flavour is your data in?
17:36 Holdings no
17:35 cait_afk does it only display null in the results list?
17:35 cait_afk it might only not display
17:35 cait_afk if the record is wrong
17:35 Holdings it show "null" instead of title
17:35 cait_afk you cannot change it in the db
17:35 Holdings because some records are wrong
17:35 Holdings well... i need to open it
17:34 cait_afk not a file
17:34 cait_afk it's a database table
17:32 Holdings i have a problem with some records
17:32 Holdings i need to find biblioitems file
17:31 Holdings i need some help
17:31 Holdings guys
17:31 Holdings uys
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17:04 Holdings on firefox is the same thing
17:03 Holdings i tried on explorer and still not working
17:00 Holdings im using google chrome
16:54 Joubu something about the IP?
16:54 Joubu ha, what is the error you get when you see the loggin form for the second time?
16:52 eythian have you tried a different browser?
16:51 Holdings :-(
16:51 Holdings nope
16:50 Joubu Is the OPAC public?
16:50 Holdings i dont know
16:50 Joubu I am sorry I am a bit lost
16:50 Joubu you do not know if the bug is new?
16:49 eythian damnit
16:49 Holdings i dont know
16:49 huginn eythian: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:49 eythian @quote add <Joubu> ok so it's unusable, but you do not want to break it :)
16:48 Joubu but the bug is new?
16:47 Holdings i installed it like 6 moths ago
16:47 Holdings i didnt make any upgrades
16:47 Holdings no...
16:47 Holdings and its something i cant make unusable
16:46 Joubu ha, so you upgraded recently?
16:46 Holdings i have like 1000 books
16:46 Holdings it not new
16:46 Joubu How did you install it?
16:46 Holdings lol
16:45 Joubu it is a new install, that's it?
16:45 Holdings every time i make something like a search or anything i need to log again
16:45 Joubu ok so it's unusable, but you do not want to break it :)
16:45 Holdings and if i want to place a hold i need to log again
16:44 Holdings and i need to log again
16:44 Holdings it shows like im not logged in
16:44 Holdings but if i make a search
16:44 Holdings and i can see my stuff
16:43 Holdings i open the opac and i log in
16:43 Holdings let me explain it again
16:42 Joubu and then you are logged in or you have to login twice again?
16:42 Holdings everytime
16:42 Holdings when i want to place a hold
16:42 Holdings when i open the opac
16:41 Holdings when i do a search
16:41 Holdings practically every time
16:41 Holdings yup
16:41 Joubu so basically you have to log twice, that's it?
16:37 Holdings because i cant screw this thing
16:36 Holdings i dont know if i can do it
16:36 Holdings no
16:35 Joubu did you update to the latest 16.05.x?
16:35 Holdings still the same problem
16:34 Holdings is not working
16:34 Holdings and i need to log every time
16:34 Joubu try mysql, but temporary files should work
16:32 reiveune bye
16:30 Holdings temporary files
16:26 Joubu what's the value of the pref "SessionStorage"?
16:25 Holdings and the message "Log in to your account" shows up
16:24 Holdings but if a make a search or anything i need to log in again
16:24 Holdings the username appears on top
16:23 Holdings and i log in
16:23 Holdings when i go to the opac
16:23 Holdings but have other problems too
16:23 Holdings it let me
16:23 Holdings yes
16:19 oleonard Holdings: When you log in again does it let you place the hold?
16:17 Joubu you should upgrade to the latest 16.05.x version
16:17 Holdings its installed on vps
16:17 Holdings 16.05.01.000
16:15 Joubu Is it a new installation or you just upgraded?
16:14 Joubu at the opac or staff interface?
16:14 Joubu Which version are you using? How did yo install Koha?
16:14 Holdings do you know why is that happening?
16:14 Holdings i need to log in again
16:13 Holdings and i click on "place hold"
16:13 Holdings when i try to place a hold
16:12 Joubu hi Holdings
16:12 Joubu me too, there is no more tea
16:11 Holdings I have a problem
16:11 Holdings Hello everyone
16:11 * Joubu checkouts master and forgets the last 15min
16:09 Joubu there is something obvious I do not see
16:08 Joubu me too...
16:07 oleonard Joubu: I thought you were leaving this to someone else :)
16:07 Joubu ha..
16:07 oleonard Joubu: No error from directly hitting /circ/circulation.pl
16:06 Joubu [off] thx!
16:06 Joubu oleonard: could you confirm you get the error if you directly hit /circ/circulation.pl, without param?
16:06 Joubu oleonard: no actually not. $borrower is undef
16:06 oleonard Joubu: I do get the error on a new db in 16.05.06
16:05 drojf [off] Joubu: just read the meeting log, congratulations!
16:05 oleonard Should?
16:04 Joubu oleonard: actually it should fail for me as well, but it does not :p
16:04 drojf yay for IE users :P
16:04 oleonard I do have IE11 so I guess I should :|
16:03 oleonard drojf: I haven't looked at it yet
16:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17878 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Tag editors (and floating toolbar in MARC editor) not working with IE11
16:03 drojf oleonard: have you seen bug 17878? i think some custom js we use for the floating toolbar in cataloguing breaks it for IE
15:55 Joubu I let this one to someone else
15:55 Joubu and it clears the screen as expected
15:55 Joubu I only switch CircAutoPrintQuickSlip to "clear the screen"
15:55 Joubu kohadevbox, drop the DB, recreate from the installer on top of v3.22.08. logged as superlibrarian
15:50 oleonard Same with tags/v16.05.06
15:47 oleonard I do get the error when I check out tags/v03.22.08 and test with either superlibrarian or other librarian user
15:45 Joubu superlibrarian user?
15:41 oleonard No, I don't get the error on master
15:40 Joubu because I tried master, 3.22.08 and the 16.05.06 and everything is fine
15:39 Joubu things like: do you recreate on master?
15:38 Joubu oleonard: any information you could give me to recreate the CircAutoPrintQuickSlip issue?
15:14 jajm ok thanks
15:14 Joubu jajm: yes, I think that should be enough
15:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17494 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Koha generating duplicate self registration tokens
15:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17943 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , "make test" failed when upgrading from koha-3.22.10 to 3-22.14 , also fresh installation of koha-3.22.14 made the same "make test" failing
15:11 jajm Joubu, about bug 17943, i'll probably revert bug 17494, but i think i should keep the first patch (https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=57212) what do you think ?
15:03 oleonard Okay thanks
15:03 Joubu oleonard: nope, I wanted to add a "convert template" button to put the generated TT template to the textarea. But I finally abandoned the idea (for now?)
15:02 marcelr thx tcohen
15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17981 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add the ability to preview generated notice templates
15:01 oleonard (Bug 17981)
15:00 oleonard Joubu: is the JavaScript related to '#convert_template' used somewhere? I don't see any instance of 'convert_template' in letter.tt
14:56 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_25_january_2017.2017-01-25-13.06.log.html
14:56 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_25_january_2017.2017-01-25-13.06.txt
14:56 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_25_january_2017.2017-01-25-13.06.html
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14:56 tcohen #endmeeting
14:56 tcohen thanks for attending the meeting
14:56 tcohen #koha apologies for the connection issues
14:56 tcohen #info February meetings will be on Feb 8th (20UTC) and Feb 22nd (13UTC)
14:54 marcelr one at 13utc sounds ok
14:54 barton +1
14:54 kidclamp +1
14:54 barton sounds good to me.
14:54 tcohen ok?
14:54 tcohen 13 utc
14:54 tcohen and feb 22
14:53 Joubu feb 8 20utc
14:53 tcohen we can have on at 20 and one at 13
14:53 tcohen if we keep two meetings a month
14:52 kidclamp or was the plan, so 20UTC would be next
14:52 tcohen yeah
14:52 marcelr ok
14:52 kidclamp I think we alternate though
14:52 tcohen same for me
14:52 tcohen Proposals?
14:52 marcelr 13utc is my favorite time
14:52 tcohen #topic Set time of next meeting
14:51 tcohen ok, I think we can move on
14:51 tcohen good point, I'll try to contact kivilathio on that
14:50 Joubu and half of the changes are from the first patchset
14:50 Joubu tcohen: we should contact Sdjan about the authorship of his patches, kivilahtio did not provide follow-ups but new patches
14:49 tcohen Joubu: np
14:49 Joubu https://github.com/joubu/Koha/tree/bug_17981 contains everything
14:48 Joubu tcohen: I'd like to get an eye on it before it's pushed
14:48 khall Joubu: good idea, can you post the url to that branch here for posterity?
14:48 Joubu khall: I think you can checkout the remote branch with everything in it, then squash everything. To get an overview
14:48 tcohen I'm going to work on QAing bug 17255
14:47 Joubu jajm: nope, only 2 are QAed, but lot in the NSO
14:47 khall just ping me with bug numbers as you have them ready
14:47 jajm i see only 2 "TT" patches in the QA queue, am i missing somthing ?
14:47 khall Joubu: Can do!
14:47 Joubu khall: at least to know if I am in the right direction
14:47 Joubu khall: I think a first glance on what I did would be much appreciated
14:46 marcelr but wont avoid them either
14:46 khall Joubu: I'd be happy to do that if you don't need me to contribute to the coding
14:46 marcelr not especially :)
14:45 Joubu 2 would be great
14:45 Joubu Does a QAer want to be dedicated to QAing "TT syntax for notices" patches?
14:45 tcohen the REST api bugs on the SO queue need to be refactored a bit
14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17933 major, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , Internal software error when searching patron without birth date
14:44 Joubu need QA pov on bug 17933
14:44 marcelr if we go over 100, maybe put on your fast qa hat
14:43 Joubu too many bugs in the QA queue
14:43 marcelr queue is growing
14:43 tcohen hehe
14:43 * marcelr is curious
14:43 tcohen #topic Updates from the QA team
14:42 tcohen moving on
14:42 tcohen #info Patches merging payment functions are all on master now
14:42 tcohen alright
14:42 khall that's about it
14:41 huginn 04Bug 14826: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Resurrect account offsets table
14:41 khall https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14826
14:41 khall next on the docket for me is to bring back the account offsets table
14:41 tcohen khall++
14:41 khall tcohen: nothing too noteworthy. All the patches for merging our disparate payment functions into one are complete!
14:40 tcohen khall: any comments on master/17.05?
14:40 marcelr that still works
14:40 marcelr other browser
14:40 marcelr ok, not logged in
14:40 Joubu marcelr: that means you cannot see security bugs
14:39 huginn khall: The operation succeeded.
14:39 khall @later tell cait we should coordinate on security bugs
14:39 marcelr no bugs Joubu
14:39 tcohen khall: maybe coordinate with the rmaints about them
14:38 Joubu https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=Needs%20Signoff&bug_status=Signed%20Off&bug_status=Passed%20QA&bug_status=Pushed%20for%20QA&bug_status=Failed%20QA&bug_status=Patch%20doesn%27t%20apply&list_id=188810&product=Koha%20security&query_format=advanced
14:38 tcohen I haven't had any time to do QA besides a couple small things
14:38 khall barring unforseen events I'll be pushing those to master Friday morning if they are pqa
14:38 tcohen #info there are 6 security bugs on the QA queue, and one in NSO
14:37 marcelr if they are left
14:37 Joubu maybe RM and RMaints should sync to push them altogether
14:37 marcelr will look at some on friday
14:37 Joubu there are some security bugs in the QA queue
14:36 tcohen #topic Security bugs to QA
14:36 tcohen #info Julian is going to work on bug 17943 ASAP
14:36 jajm i'll look at this bug asap
14:35 Joubu about 17943, I talked about it earlier
14:35 Joubu (that's all)
14:35 Joubu to see if the conversion works as expected for complex templates
14:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17943 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , "make test" failed when upgrading from koha-3.22.10 to 3-22.14 , also fresh installation of koha-3.22.14 made the same "make test" failing
14:35 Joubu I could also ask on the ML for some people to send me non-standard templates
14:35 tcohen #topic Critical bug for 3.22.x: bug 17943
14:34 tcohen oleonard++
14:34 khall oleonard++
14:34 tcohen #info Owen is working on a followup for 17981
14:34 Joubu and yes, oleonard is going to make it awesome :)
14:34 tcohen oleonard: great
14:33 * oleonard is working on a template follow-up for it
14:33 Joubu Everything is explained in the commit message
14:33 * magnuse wanders off
14:33 Joubu it's on top of a quite big tree of patches, non-pushed yet
14:33 Joubu Nothing to do, just checkout the remote branch and test
14:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17981 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add the ability to preview generated notice templates
14:32 tcohen #topic Bug 17981
14:32 tcohen moving on I guesss
14:32 tcohen anyway
14:32 tcohen the idea is that you can have your preferred indentation config globally, but the editor picks the right one for the Koha source
14:31 khall https://github.com/editorconfig/editorconfig-vim
14:31 jajm tcohen, there is
14:31 tcohen Joubu: i bet there's a vim plugin for editorconfig
14:30 khall tcohen: couldn't hurt!
14:30 Joubu :q
14:30 tcohen we should add it to our shipped .editorconfig file
14:29 tcohen any preference?
14:29 * tcohen unhides
14:29 tcohen1 ok, we have JSON with 2 and 4 spaces
14:29 khall lol
14:29 oleonard Let that be a lesson to you tcohen
14:28 wahanui like that is hard to vote on. :)
14:28 magnuse like that?
14:28 khall thanks magnuse!
14:28 khall I'm not an op, magnuse?
14:27 tcohen1 try
14:27 tcohen1 ?
14:27 khall is an op around to kick tcohen?
14:26 tcohen1 ok, i cannot chair as tcohen1 I think
14:26 tcohen1 (nick tcohen
14:26 tcohen1 ok, wifi is back, edge connection was really bad
14:25 ashimema we see you tcohen1
14:25 marcelr sure
14:25 oleonard Yes tcohen1
14:25 tcohen1 am i online now?
14:25 marcelr the best discussion go about tabs and spaces :)
14:24 * Joubu votes for 2 tabs + 3 spaces
14:23 * ashimema likes tidy code
14:23 ashimema I would ++ some though ;)
14:22 ashimema not that i can see
14:21 tcohen I added it lat minute and don't have DNS resolution right now to check myself
14:21 tcohen do we have an indentation coding guildeline for JSON?
14:20 tcohen was
14:20 tcohen the other part of the topic
14:20 tcohen ok, i'm waiting for the flooding emails and comments about the REST api
14:18 josef_moravec_ restapi++
14:18 barton tcoehn++
14:18 kidclamp tcohen++
14:18 kidclamp tcoehn++
14:18 tcohen #actions Tomas volunteers to write a patch to move boolean values into BIT
14:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17932 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Koha::Object should provide a TO_JSON method
14:17 tcohen #info Tomas requests comments on bug 17932 and the way it handles booleans, until we figure a DB structure change to ease it
14:16 jajm ok
14:16 tcohen ashimema, I agree, but there's some work to be done so that becomes real
14:16 Joubu not BIT(1)
14:15 jajm BIT can store more than true/false value
14:15 marcelr the title does not really reveal this topic
14:15 Joubu BIT sounds like what we should pick
14:15 tcohen and also contact me so we can coordinate and maybe solve issues together
14:15 tcohen I encourage everyone interested on the REST api implementation to comment and/or tests those bugs
14:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17992 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , REST api: Cities controller should not use ->unblessed
14:14 tcohen I added bug 17992, to highlight the consequences of the change on our reference implementation
14:14 tcohen and once we figure a better way, we just need to change the implementation on TO_JSON
14:14 tcohen this is only useful for the TO_JSON function
14:14 ashimema I hadn't considered that one
14:14 * druthb perks up, smiles, and returns to her hacking.
14:14 ashimema hmm
14:13 tcohen which is supported by Postgres as well
14:13 tcohen a proper solution could involve moving all boolean values into (say) BIT column type
14:13 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
14:13 huginn gmcharlt_: Quote #264: "<druthb> Grokking someone else's code is still trying to reverse-engineer someone else's brain." (added by wizzyrea at 11:50 PM, June 26, 2013)
14:13 gmcharlt_ @quote random
14:13 khall I'm not opposed to the idea
14:13 * oleonard is but is sitting this one out
14:13 tcohen basically, we need to add __PACKAGES__->add_columns( '+column_name' => { is_boolean => 1 } );
14:13 tcohen I added a syntax for explicitly stating on the schema files that a field is a boolean value
14:13 ashimema noone else still around?
14:11 * ashimema thinks we shouldn't be dbicdumping any more.. and booleans should be marked as booleans in dbic result classes
14:09 tcohen is on the 'Fix /patrons endpoint' patch
14:09 tcohen so, the subject I wanted to raise
14:09 tcohen DBIC doesn't know about it
14:07 tcohen because (1) is just a mask to tell the DB how do we want to have the 8-bit value sent
14:06 tcohen (i.e. lokking up on the schema)
14:06 tcohen so, we cannot deduce from the code if something is a boolean
14:04 tcohen you just grep -i tinyint on kohastructure.sql and you will notice
14:04 tcohen TINYINT(4)
14:04 tcohen but we also store other tinyint values which are not booleans
14:04 Joubu Yes that's a known issue, that can contain only 2 values
14:04 tcohen we store them on the DB as TINYINT(1)
14:03 tcohen we have a situation with booleans
14:03 tcohen but also Boolean values
14:03 tcohen the main problem where integers and DBD::mysql which is explained on the first commit message
14:03 LibraryClaire me too
14:02 cait sorry, have to leave early
14:02 tcohen which basically adds a TO_JSON method that handles data types correctly
14:02 tcohen so I put together some ideas an wrote 17932
14:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17008 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, RESOLVED WONTFIX, REST API: Correct data types in Swagger
14:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , REST API: /holds and /patrons attributes have wrong types
14:01 tcohen they are fixed by bug 17927 (which resurrects a porting of bug 17008's patches)
14:00 tcohen I wanted to mention that I'm working on a couple new endpoints and I found that our API data types where incorrect
14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17932 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Koha::Object should provide a TO_JSON method
14:00 tcohen #topic REST api / Bug 17932
13:59 wahanui somebody said anything else was just being crap
13:59 tcohen anything else?
13:59 tcohen from a fixed location
13:58 tcohen koha-indexer launches rebuild_zebra.pl -d
13:58 tcohen #info Now that removing marcxml from 'biblioitems' is pushed, it is urgent that people test bug 17898 so it can be pushed and tested A LOT before the release
13:57 marcelr not related to that bug
13:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, More flexible paths in debian scripts (for dev installs)
13:57 marcelr no Joubu
13:57 Joubu bug 16733
13:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1673 blocker, P3, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, Error Fields Need Highlighted
13:57 Joubu bug 1673
13:57 Joubu marcelr: that should be fixed by 16733, right?
13:57 marcelr ok
13:56 tcohen marcelr: that reminds me that we need to make the packages restart koha-common on upgrade
13:56 barton the wiki itself is internally version controlled ... we could put a note at the top of the wiki pointing to the old version.
13:56 tcohen marcelr: it makes sense :-D
13:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17898 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add a way to automatically convert SQL reports
13:56 Joubu bug 17898
13:55 wahanui i think # is for root
13:55 tcohen Joubu: #?
13:55 marcelr had some weird problems with indexing until i restarted koha-indexer after upgrading
13:55 barton I just had a thought about changes to the wiki the marcxml queries...
13:55 Joubu that will need testing
13:55 Joubu There is the patch to automgically convert the SQL
13:55 marcelr i did not too, but have a tiny remark
13:54 tcohen I know, but anything would be your fault :-P
13:54 Joubu I did not add it
13:54 Joubu nope
13:54 tcohen Joubu: anything to say about it?
13:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Move marcxml out of the biblioitems table
13:53 tcohen #topic Updates on bug 17196
13:53 tcohen marcelr++ # great work on old under-tested code
13:51 marcelr will come there one day..
13:51 tcohen marcelr: I think there was good stuff in there
13:51 marcelr in a later stage probably yes
13:51 Joubu could we reuse bib merging code?
13:50 marcelr yeah
13:50 tcohen marcelr: have you seen jcamins work on the authority de-duplication tool?
13:50 cait marcelr++
13:50 marcelr and that helped i guess
13:50 marcelr i started with writing merge tests
13:49 Joubu I think we need very good tests coverage for that change
13:49 tcohen #info Marcel has been working on resurrecting old authority merge patches, needs help and feedback
13:49 marcelr Joubu: solve one bug, find two new ones
13:49 barton I saw that I got volunteered ;-) ;-)
13:49 barton|away #info Barton Chittenden, BWS, Louisville KY USA.
13:48 marcelr well thats easy qa too ;)
13:48 Joubu :D
13:48 Joubu sounds easy
13:48 marcelr would be nice to keep some pace in that regard
13:47 marcelr it is quite a lot actually
13:47 marcelr the table on 14769 should facilitate adjusting indicators when remerging authorities (via a script)
13:47 marcelr distinction between migration tool and cron job
13:47 marcelr restructure need_merge_authorities (perhaps rename it) : include old authno, old authtype and contents of old reporting field
13:47 marcelr move zebra stuff outside of sub merge, use/extend CountUsage, add a GetBiblionumbers sub/method
13:47 marcelr auth_header should be autoincrement / remove the max(authid) logic
13:46 marcelr some more ideas:
13:46 magnuse marcelr++
13:46 marcelr but we need to some more, and would appreciate support on that
13:46 khall #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions
13:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17913 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Merge three authority merge fixes
13:46 marcelr a merge test has been pushed as well as the sub merge fixes on bug 17913; we are in "stage 3" now
13:46 marcelr reorganizing them in a omnibus bug
13:46 marcelr ok, have been working on some older authority merge bugs
13:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17908 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Authority merge omnibus
13:45 tcohen #topic Plans for bug 17908
13:44 tcohen ok, next topic then
13:44 ashimema haha
13:44 Joubu I am from Belgium man! :p
13:43 Joubu I can live with that :)
13:43 ashimema but can see where Joubu is coming from
13:43 tcohen khall: around?
13:43 ashimema 'perl best practice' suggests after the __END__ block.. but I personally prefer inline ;)
13:43 tcohen sorry, Joubu
13:43 huginn no (1): Joubu
13:43 huginn yes (8): cait, oleonard, ashimema, jajm, marcelr, kidclamp, tcohen, rsantellan
13:43 huginn Voted on "Â Should we add "When updating a module you are required to add POD for added and changed subroutines or ensure existing POD is accurate, it is encouraged to add POD to all subroutines as possible" to the coding guidelines?" Results are
13:43 tcohen #endvote
13:43 tcohen anyone else?
13:42 rsantellan #vote yes
13:42 kidclamp Joubu++
13:42 marcelr #vote yes
13:42 tcohen :-P
13:42 Joubu would have prefered the pod at the end
13:42 Joubu #vote no
13:42 cait #vote yes
13:42 jajm #vote yes
13:42 ashimema #vote yes
13:42 oleonard #vote yes
13:42 kidclamp #vote yes
13:42 tcohen #vote yes
13:42 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
13:42 huginn Begin voting on: Â Should we add "When updating a module you are required to add POD for added and changed subroutines or ensure existing POD is accurate, it is encouraged to add POD to all subroutines as possible" to the coding guidelines? Valid vote options are , yes, no, .
13:42 tcohen #startvote Should we add "When updating a module you are required to add POD for added and changed subroutines or ensure existing POD is accurate, it is encouraged to add POD to all subroutines as possible" to the coding guidelines? (yes,no)
13:41 cait or just do #agreed :)
13:41 marcelr vote now
13:41 kidclamp not me
13:41 ashimema nope
13:41 tcohen does anyone disagrees with the proposed changes?
13:40 tcohen #koha: I volunteered to look for good sample PODs to be used as templates so we vote on that next meeting. Right now we need to either vote or accept unanimously the changes Nick proposed
13:39 tcohen now we are moving to Koha::Object(s) that are passed around, things will be simpler
13:38 marcelr just three lines lower..
13:38 marcelr very often the params donot match
13:38 marcelr not too much duplicated info in the pod that will be outdated after a few years because it wasnt updated?
13:38 cait I always find it helpful if the documentation is clear about these things
13:38 tcohen #actions Tomas will look for a well formed and useful set of examples to vote on next meeting
13:37 cait please
13:37 cait def return type
13:36 Joubu it's implicit in the name of the method
13:36 Joubu yes we could, but still think it's too verbose
13:36 Joubu return: Koha::Overdues object
13:36 marcelr distinction between class methods and instance methods ?
13:35 jajm the return type might be useful (hash, list, Koha::*)
13:35 tcohen [off] khall noticed the meeting and ducked out
13:35 Joubu any good examples
13:34 marcelr functions or methods?
13:34 Joubu tcohen: nope, I don't think we have any
13:34 kidclamp wrong link
13:34 kidclamp https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL13:_POD
13:34 tcohen well, the object type is not useless information
13:34 kidclamp https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL3:_Fix_warnings <- Do you think the current example needs added verbosity?
13:33 marcelr heh
13:33 Joubu fantastically useful...
13:33 Joubu this method returns overdues for a patron
13:33 Joubu $patron->get_overdues
13:33 Joubu But as I already said
13:33 tcohen Joubu: do you think you can find a good example?
13:33 Joubu =cut
13:33 Joubu what does the method
13:32 Joubu describe the params
13:32 Joubu my $return_value = $obj->method ( $params );
13:32 marcelr head2 reads nicer for subroutines
13:32 Joubu =head3 method
13:32 kidclamp For two examples, see the POD comments in the Search.pm module (perldoc Search.pm) and the Biblio.pm module.
13:32 Joubu what is usually done :
13:32 Joubu we need a template
13:31 kidclamp When updating a module you are required to add POD for added and changed subroutines or ensure existing POD is accurate, it is encouraged to add POD to all subroutines as possible
13:31 tcohen #info Nick volunteers to update the coding guidelines text to reflect this change
13:31 tcohen #info Barton volunteered to write patches fixing POD
13:30 ashimema barton++
13:30 tcohen barton++
13:30 ashimema awesome
13:30 tcohen barton
13:30 kidclamp barton volunteered to do some work there
13:30 ashimema I'd love to see some pod only bugs coming in too ;)
13:30 ashimema true
13:29 ashimema I'd say.. ensure POD is accurate and correct for the routines you are altering as the rule
13:29 marcelr QA++
13:29 kidclamp I think QA judgement calls are okay
13:29 tcohen ashimema: the QA team is good when negotiating
13:29 cait When updating a module you are required to add POD for added and changed subroutines, it is encouraged to add POD to all subroutines as possible
13:29 marcelr existing should be modified
13:29 magnuse yup
13:29 ashimema full coverage would be lovely.. but enforcing someone to go back and write pod for each routine when they've done a 1 character change to one routine is a bit rough ;)
13:29 cait for changed/added?
13:28 cait hm existing and all seems the same
13:28 kidclamp heh - true, but full coverage would be nice
13:28 kidclamp When updating a module you are required to add POD for existing subroutines, it is encouraged to add POD to all subroutines as possible
13:28 marcelr you probably wont like rebasing them when we change all
13:27 tcohen yeah
13:27 tcohen yeah, only what you change is required
13:26 kidclamp I think all is encouraged, what you change is required
13:26 magnuse yeah
13:26 marcelr only what you change
13:26 cait use/change?
13:26 cait do you have to do all? or just the ones you use?
13:26 kidclamp heh
13:26 kidclamp lets vote
13:26 cait already voted on ml - inline and required :)
13:26 kidclamp so I say add to guideline: When updating a module lacking POD please add coverage for existing subroutines. All POD should be inline with subroutines
13:26 tcohen any objections? if there are, we should vote
13:25 josef_moravec_ ++ inline
13:25 ashimema ++ for inline POD
13:25 marcelr i go for required, inline
13:25 jajm ++ for inline POD
13:25 kidclamp heh, there was more discussion at the meetings :-)
13:25 marcelr and you already got responses on last meeting
13:25 tcohen kidclamp: no objections so far?
13:24 kidclamp I sent out an email - got two responses, I think we can go ahead with enforcing the current rule about POD and adding that it should be inline
13:24 * oleonard has a coding guideline item after kidclamp
13:23 kidclamp okay
13:23 tcohen kidclamp: your turn
13:23 tcohen #topic Review of coding guidelines / New POD guidelines
13:22 tcohen ok, moving on
13:22 tcohen cait: I'm sure you will make us note those bugs
13:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17940 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds not going to waiting state after having been transferred
13:22 magnuse cait: bug 17940 might be worth a look
13:21 cait heh
13:21 tcohen :D
13:21 tcohen #info holds bugs in 16.11 can be totally not-minor
13:20 cait might be havier ones
13:20 cait didn't say minor
13:20 tcohen mtj: around?
13:20 tcohen #info Katrin says there can be some minor bugs on holds, but 16.11 is stable enough
13:19 tcohen cait: thanks
13:19 tcohen jajm++
13:19 cait i think there might still be some bugs in holds - I haven't reviewed them yet
13:19 jajm Joubu, yep, I just saw that, i will take a look asap
13:18 Joubu mught be a critical one
13:18 cait right now I think my first list is done with - the one that Joubu had sent
13:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17943 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , "make test" failed when upgrading from koha-3.22.10 to 3-22.14 , also fresh installation of koha-3.22.14 made the same "make test" failing
13:18 Joubu see bug 17943
13:18 Joubu it seems that it's buggy since 3.22.14
13:18 cait jajm++
13:18 tcohen cait: is there a list of outstanding bugs for the stability of 16.11?
13:18 Joubu Something about 3.22.x
13:18 marcelr great
13:18 cait have some patience, I have a list for those :)
13:18 cait I will try to review those the next week latest and see what I can do for the next release
13:17 cait In some cases I asked for feedback or people spoke up that they'd like to have something included
13:17 ashimema jajm++
13:17 tcohen awesome
13:17 cait and bgkriegel++ for sending me the po files on short notice too
13:17 ashimema drojf++
13:17 jajm #info 3.22.15 was released on 23rd
13:17 cait packages have been made available the next day this time - drojf++!
13:17 tcohen cait++
13:17 marcelr cait++
13:17 cait the plan is to keep with the schedule - i hope it will always work out :)
13:17 ashimema cait++
13:16 cait #info 16.11.2 was released on 22nd
13:16 tcohen #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
13:16 magnuse lazy people ;-)
13:16 tcohen so, moving on
13:16 tcohen and khall seems offline
13:15 kidclamp or khall
13:15 tcohen it is too early for bag
13:15 tcohen first
13:15 tcohen ashimema: i preferred to have the announcements dirst
13:15 marcelr see agenda
13:15 * ashimema wonders if we missed the POD discussion
13:14 tcohen khall? bag?
13:14 magnuse (the list is very low traffic, so far)
13:14 tcohen #topic Update from the Release manager
13:14 tcohen ok, moving on
13:13 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_25_January_2017 agenda
13:13 Joubu https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_25_January_2017
13:13 tcohen #info Lots of off-the-record announcements, for more information ask Joubu and druthb
13:13 oleonard Do we have an agenda link?
13:13 Joubu [on] tcohen will can move on ;)
13:13 kidclamp [off]congrats to all!
13:13 ashimema [off] lots of [off] and not much [on]
13:13 tcohen #info ByWater has created an mailing list for people interested in adding support for rdf/linked data/semantic web techniques to koha
13:13 Joubu [off] hehe yes indeed :)
13:12 ashimema [off] apart from your online hours Joubu ;)
13:12 magnuse [off] hooray for druthb and Joubu!
13:12 cait [off] congrats to K. for getting the funding :)
13:12 marcelr [off] good
13:12 Joubu [off] nothing will change for my Koha-related job
13:12 magnuse don't know if there is a public page for signing up to the list, but get in touch with bag or khall or others at bywater and they can propbably add you
13:12 ashimema [off] enjoy Joubu
13:11 ashimema [off] congrats druthb
13:11 josef_moravec_ [off] congatulations to all ;)
13:11 Joubu [off] just following my girlfriend, she got her funding for a 2 years position research
13:11 marcelr [off] :)
13:11 ashimema want to link that magnuse?
13:11 tcohen [off] :)
13:11 cait [off] congratulations :)
13:11 druthb [off] I'm getting married on March 4. :)
13:11 tcohen [off] That's quite an announcement Joubu
13:11 magnuse bywater has created a mailing list for people who are interested in adding support for rdf/linked data/semantic web techniques to koha
13:11 marcelr [off] working on Koha?
13:10 LibraryClaire [off] :O
13:10 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe
13:10 oleonard [off] !!!
13:10 cait [off] woohoo
13:10 Joubu [off] but keep it off :p
13:10 Joubu [off] I will move to Argentina in about 1 month, hopefully
13:10 tcohen magnuse: go ahead
13:10 magnuse the rdf mailing list, perhaps`
13:09 wahanui announcements are often automatic
13:09 tcohen druthb: announcements?
13:09 tcohen Any announcements?
13:08 tcohen #topic Announcements
13:08 tcohen #koha, please introduce yourselves
13:08 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart, France
13:07 josef_moravec_ #info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Usti nad ORlici
13:07 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
13:06 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA
13:06 rsantellan #info Rodrigo Santellan, ORT, Uruguay
13:06 LibraryClaire #info Claire Gravely, BSZ, Germany
13:06 jajm #info Julian Maurice, BibLibre, France
13:06 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
13:06 tcohen #info Tomás Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
13:06 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway
13:06 tcohen hi everyone, please introduce yourselves with #info
13:06 marcelr #info Marcel de Rooy, Rijksmuseum, Netherlands
13:06 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_25_january_2017'
13:06 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
13:06 huginn Meeting started Wed Jan 25 13:06:05 2017 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
13:06 tcohen #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 25 January 2017
13:05 kidclamp hi ashimema marcelr et al.
13:05 ashimema hola'
13:03 marcelr and tcohen
13:03 marcelr hi kidclamp
13:03 tcohen morning, kidclamp
13:03 kidclamp morning
13:03 marcelr josef_moravec_++
13:02 josef_moravec_ oleonard: i'd like to, when time permits...
13:02 cait hi all
13:01 marcelr hi jajm
13:01 jajm hi #koha
12:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17942 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update style of the web installer with Bootstrap 3
12:58 * oleonard tries to Jedi-mind-trick someone into signing off on Bug 17942
12:58 wahanui hi oleopard
12:58 josef_moravec_ hi oleonard
12:57 wahanui hi olé onard
12:57 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
12:57 magnuse hiya oleopard
12:56 oleonard Hi all
12:55 wahanui rumour has it magnuse is a Norwegian giant
12:55 druthb magnuse!
12:55 magnuse meeting in 5!
12:55 magnuse lulz
12:55 wahanui She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know?
12:55 magnuse druthb!
12:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17982 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Fix the use of uniq in sub themelanguage
12:46 marcelr easy signoff ? bug 17982 !
12:44 cait hi marcelr, Joubu
12:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17990 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Code to check perl module versions is buggy
12:43 marcelr Joubu++ #bug 17990
12:43 marcelr hi cait
12:40 * cait waves
12:38 marcelr hello LibraryClaire
12:38 LibraryClaire hi marcelr
12:33 marcelr :)
12:33 magnuse hiya marcelr
12:33 marcelr hi #koha
12:30 * tcohen1 hates his internet connexion
12:20 huginn magnuse: mtompset was last seen in #koha 1 day, 7 hours, 38 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <mtompset> Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha dcook
12:20 magnuse @seen mtompset
12:18 tcohen ha, is mtompet around? he's a specialist on musical flashbacks
12:18 tcohen the grateful dead
12:11 magnuse they were a gateway drug to harder and better stuff, so i guess i should be grateful
12:10 tcohen Lonely person
12:10 magnuse Joubu: Labour Party
12:09 tcohen vinyl
12:09 magnuse tcohen: i had it on MC i think
12:08 Joubu hum, urban dictionnary has weird def for LP
12:07 Joubu Low power?
12:07 Joubu Low profile?
12:07 Joubu Lonely Planet?
12:05 * tcohen still has the LP
11:57 magnuse soo, the final countdown from europe, eh?
11:56 tcohen magnuse: hadn't seen the countdown, cool!
11:55 tcohen ?
11:55 tcohen 1H5min
11:41 magnuse it's the final countdown: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440&iso=20170125T13&msg=Koha%20Developers%20IRC%20Meeting
11:39 magnuse in 1 hour 20 minutes https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_25_January_2017
11:38 magnuse hm meeting today?
11:38 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (12:20 PM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
11:38 magnuse @wunder enbo
11:28 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
11:28 rsantellan good morning
11:24 LibraryClaire everywhere is warmer than here
11:13 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 16.0°C (8:00 AM ART on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
11:13 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
11:12 tcohen morning
11:10 drojf heh
11:09 Joubu I did not get the invitation either
11:09 * drojf feels less lonely
11:09 drojf hi Joubu
11:08 Joubu drojf: !
11:03 drojf why am i the only one here? did i miss an invitation to the new place?
11:02 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is 0.2°C (11:59 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
11:02 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:39 drojf hi #koha
10:26 wahanui well, marcelr is talking with tcohen about it
10:26 Joubu marcelr?
09:32 magnuse \o/
09:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
09:32 magnuse @wunder enbo
09:25 LibraryClaire nope
09:25 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -5.7°C (10:21 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
09:25 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz
09:16 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Geuzenbuurt Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 0.1°C (10:15 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1032 hPa (Rising).
09:16 eythian @wunder jordaan, amsterdam
09:15 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is -0.8°C (10:10 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1032 hPa (Rising).
09:15 eythian @wunder ams
09:15 wahanui hello, eythian
09:15 eythian hi
08:53 josef_moravec optimize schrinks down the table size, but does not unallocate filespace
08:49 ashimema k
08:48 josef_moravec without innodb_file_per_table no
08:48 josef_moravec ashimema: no, this server does not have set file_per_table
08:48 ashimema I'd be interested to see if optimize does work ;)
08:48 josef_moravec ashimema: that's no problem, not production ;)
08:48 ashimema I presume your not running file_per_table josef ?
08:47 josef_moravec ashimema: yes, that's the plan ;)
08:47 ashimema but that obviously entails downtime
08:47 ashimema I believe you can dump and reload to reclaim it
08:46 ashimema lol
08:46 josef_moravec ;)
08:46 josef_moravec And so I has now 18GB of "free space" in mysql tablespace: http://www.s3blog.org/screengrab/images.html?id=e3af1f7dab6abe01ff784fd7bf832a58
08:42 ashimema and perhaps we should switch to innodb for that table and if we're going belt and braces add a maintanence script that runs optimise over tables?
08:42 josef_moravec mysql alocated filespace, and when i cleared the action_logs table, the space wasn't unallocated, but adding more data to other tables does not make the allocated space bigger
08:41 ashimema so yeah.. Joubu, I agree everybody should use file_per_table
08:41 ashimema it can grow very fast
08:41 ashimema indeed.. action_logs has caught us a few times
08:40 josef_moravec but on one of my servers, where innodb_file_per_table is not set, the action_logs table once growed up too much - few gigs of data
08:40 Joubu ok, so you need innodb_file_per_table, but everybody should use innodb_file_per_table :)
08:39 josef_moravec I have no better evidence on the internet for this...
08:39 josef_moravec There is bug in Mysql for that... http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=1341
08:38 ashimema I have no idea if we have any control over setting that file_per_table setting or not
08:37 ashimema http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1270944/mysql-innodb-not-releasing-disk-space-after-deleting-data-rows-from-table is helpful too
08:36 ashimema https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/innodb-truncate-table-reclaim-space.html for example
08:35 ashimema ah, you need innodb_file_per_table to be enabled for that to work
08:34 ashimema I recall hearing somewhere that calling OPTIMISE on innodb tables can reclaim the space
08:34 Joubu if it's the same size, we could go with innodb
08:33 Joubu but it must be easy to test, just fill the table, check size of the mysql index, empty the table, refill it
08:32 Joubu I do not find anything to confirm your or josef_moravec assertion
08:26 paul_p__ Joubu & josef_moravec= a link about that ? That was not my understanding.
08:26 Joubu paul_p__: yes but as josef_moravec previously said: "when you insert some new data, the it uses the emptied space, so growing just up to maximum of data it ever has"
08:25 paul_p__ what is valid ? the reason to have myISAM instead of InnoDB ? I think yes, innoDB volumes are still only growing. That's due to innoDB internals (and not considered as a bug)
08:24 paul_p__ Joubu hello.
08:24 Joubu do you know if this is still valid?
08:23 Joubu +-- so MyISAM is better in this case
08:23 Joubu +-- this table is MyISAM, InnoDB tables are growing only and this table is filled/emptied/filled/emptied...
08:23 Joubu +--
08:23 Joubu paul_p__: +-- Table structure for table `pending_offline_operations`
08:23 Joubu paul_p__: right in time :)
08:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED FIXED, Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once
08:22 Joubu josef_moravec: there is nothing on the bug 5877
08:18 josef_moravec usually ;)
08:18 josef_moravec but yes, action_logs is newer full emptied
08:18 josef_moravec I think the bigger problem with space is in table action_logs for example...
08:16 josef_moravec so growing just up to maximum of data it ever has...
08:15 josef_moravec but when you insert some new data, the it uses the emptied space...
08:14 josef_moravec Yes, I know, that when you empty InnoDB table, it does not unallocate space
08:13 Joubu yes I think it is
08:13 josef_moravec Joubu: but do you think the comment is entirely true?
08:13 Joubu I was resending the message I sent yesterday, but was pending for approval
08:13 josef_moravec Joubu: ;)
08:12 Joubu josef_moravec: ho you beat me for 2min
08:10 LibraryClaire salut fridolin
08:09 fridolin hei
07:56 LibraryClaire salut alex_a
07:55 alex_a bonjour
07:51 * magnuse will do that a few times today
07:51 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 0.0°C (8:30 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
07:51 magnuse @wunder marseille, france
07:51 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
07:51 magnuse @wunder enbo
07:40 LibraryClaire o/
07:40 reiveune \o_
07:40 LibraryClaire bonjour Joubu
07:40 LibraryClaire hi reiveune
07:38 Joubu hi #koha
07:36 wahanui hey, reiveune
07:34 reiveune hello
07:28 LibraryClaire i'm not going out there again
07:28 cait can you send work here?
07:28 LibraryClaire yeah, that explains why cycling sucked this morning
07:28 cait i don't want to get out there :(
07:28 cait ew
07:27 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -6.3°C (8:24 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
07:27 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz
07:27 LibraryClaire night bag :) take it easy!
07:26 bag time for me to fast walk
07:26 bag alright night night all
07:24 * magnuse thinks fast walking is the sensible thing
07:23 josef_moravec Hi TeaClaire ;)
07:23 bag you don’t have bag though LibraryClaire
07:23 LibraryClaire hi josef_moravec
07:22 * LibraryClaire has tea
07:21 cait heh
07:20 josef_moravec morning #koha
07:16 bag I am not a tea bag
07:16 * LibraryClaire forgot the tea bag... tries again
07:14 * LibraryClaire goes to make tea
07:14 * LibraryClaire waves
07:12 * cait waves
07:12 bag aloha cait
07:11 bag yup
07:10 LibraryClaire but I think stretching calves and achilles are helpful for the plantar fascia too
07:10 LibraryClaire ok yeah thats less the achilles
07:10 LibraryClaire cos, I had the same when I tore my achilles- it always hurts in the morning and eases off in the day
07:10 bag arches and heels hurt like hell
07:10 bag the good thing I think - is that with it - after you run a few miles - it lossens up
07:09 LibraryClaire like, heel under the foot or back of leg?
07:09 LibraryClaire hmm
07:09 bag little did I know - I should have done something
07:09 bag every morning when I get out of bed I can barely walk - I just thought - yeah that’s what runners do
07:08 bag I have a PT appointment next week
07:08 LibraryClaire yeah, lots of stretching
07:08 bag I’ve had it for awhile - but I didn’t know - I just webmd’d it - so ….
07:08 LibraryClaire mine once tensed up so much I couldn't walk on it, but luckily sports therapist sorted it in a session and it healed quickly
07:08 * magnuse thought bag meant some kind of fajitas
07:08 LibraryClaire how bad is the fasciitis?
07:07 bag I’ve already signed up for two
07:07 bag [off] crude american
07:07 LibraryClaire marathons are bad for you
07:07 bag SHIT
07:06 LibraryClaire bag: I have hip bursitis
07:06 magnuse \o/
07:06 LibraryClaire hei magnuse
07:06 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara
07:06 LibraryClaire ouch
07:06 LibraryClaire aaaargh
07:06 bag bummer
07:06 bag I got plantar fasciitas
07:06 LibraryClaire hey bag
07:06 magnuse utterly dark
07:06 bag LibraryClaire: hi there
07:05 bag anyways magnuse - what’s the view like now?
07:05 bag ah it wouldn’t be a hackfest without you
07:05 magnuse nah, nice try!
07:05 huginn bag: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
07:05 bag bag--
07:05 bag sorry so lame
07:04 bag [off] TP calls that logic
07:04 magnuse balance does sound good
07:04 magnuse :-)
07:04 bag :D
07:04 bag sold - correct? therefore we will see magnuse in marseille
07:03 bag so therefore you should attend - to have that shorter perspective in your life - it’s called balance
07:03 magnuse that is true
07:02 bag you can not see the things that I see at my level ;)
07:02 bag it’s always about perspective - I being short - create a different one for you ;)
07:02 magnuse i am not 100% decided yet, but "probably not" must be my answer
07:01 magnuse hehe. i won't be in your way, so you will have a clearer view ;-)
07:01 bag but how can I enjoy the view without you?
07:00 magnuse and i have a hunch there will be lots of other traveling this year
07:00 bag time is always in the past
07:00 magnuse it's a question of time
07:00 bag oh bummer
07:00 magnuse sadly
07:00 magnuse i don't think so
06:59 bag hmm magnuse you going to hackfest?
06:59 magnuse mohahahaha
06:59 huginn bag: The current temperature in Portland, Oregon is 2.0°C (10:53 PM PST on January 24, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 PM PST Wednesday...
06:59 bag @wunder pdx
06:59 wahanui salut, magnuse
06:59 magnuse bag: HI
06:59 wahanui hey, bag
06:59 bag magnuse: HI
06:58 magnuse mohahahaha
06:58 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 0.0°C (7:30 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
06:58 magnuse @wunder marseille, france
06:57 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
06:57 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:57 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is -1.0°C (7:25 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady).
06:57 magnuse @wunder amsterdam, netherlands
06:57 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -6.2°C (7:50 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
06:57 magnuse @wunder konstanz
06:57 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 25, 2017). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
06:57 magnuse @wunder enbo
06:56 * magnuzzz waves
02:00 liz oh also those password containing emails are sent even when email is disabled
01:59 liz to get into the shell, I'd type "sudo koha-shell mylibrary"
01:59 liz koha-list --enabled would show me mylibrary
01:59 liz mylibrary is my instance name
01:59 liz if I had done koha-create --create-db mylibrary
01:58 liz so for example
01:48 mtj ^ .. shows you all instances
01:48 mtj sudo koha-list --enabled
01:48 mtj 'instance' in the name of your specific koha
01:34 martian basically, how to get into mysql shell ?
01:32 martian what is <instance>
01:30 liz what was the exact error message
01:30 liz and it said "command failed"
01:30 liz and then describe aqbooksellers;
01:30 liz sudo koha-mysql <instance>
01:30 liz so you did
01:29 liz no no
01:29 liz show tables;
01:29 martian koha-mysql "describe aqbooksellers;"
01:28 martian when put in mysql> descibe aqbooksellers, command failed
01:27 liz just to get the instance name
01:27 liz "see what you have got" means "see what instances you have currently running on your server"
01:27 martian tried
01:26 liz by doing sudo koha-list --enabled
01:26 liz you can see what you have got
01:26 liz sudo koha-mysql <whatever the name of your instance is>
01:26 liz you can do
01:26 liz cool
01:26 martian yes
01:26 martian what's the command to get into the mysql shell
01:26 liz cool, are you logged in with a user that can sudo?
01:26 martian yes
01:25 liz do you have access to the command line on the Koha server
01:25 martian what command line?
01:25 martian sorry, not catching it
01:24 liz martian ^
01:23 liz on the Koha server
01:23 liz and sudo access (or root)
01:23 liz do you have a command line?
01:21 martian mtj got my IT here. can you explain how to get to mysql ?
01:21 * liz finds that slightly frightening
01:12 mtj liz: good to know, ta
01:10 liz http://paste.koha-community.org/275
01:08 liz that it sends passwords via email
01:08 liz did you all know that if you have the "send patron registration information" stuff on
01:08 liz I uh
01:08 martian523 hold on
01:08 mtj a command.. from the mysql shell
01:07 martian523 not an IT expert
01:07 martian523 sorry, where do i find this?
01:07 mtj martian523: does your table look like that? ^
01:06 pastebot "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "describe aqbooksellers;" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/274
01:04 martian523 o, so this is a problem?
01:03 martian523 any
01:02 liz this happens when searching for any vendor or a specific one?
01:02 liz yay ty
01:02 mtj hi liz ^ fyi
01:02 mtj ". using koha 16.05.07. this error came up when i tried to look up vendors in acquisitions: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 2054"
01:02 liz I must have missed what the error actually is
01:01 liz martian523: is there anything in the javascript console?
01:01 mtj oops, sorry i misread... ^ i'm not sure if yr orders will be gone (not tested myself)
01:00 mtj not prod
01:00 mtj sure... so, only on your *test* system
00:59 martian523 i can try...but does that mean all my past orders are gone?
00:59 mtj if not, then compare the 'vendors' table structure to a fresh 16.5.7
00:58 mtj on your test system, delete all vendors, then add a new one - problem solved?
00:57 martian523 i upgraded from 3.18
00:56 martian523 it worked fine before the upgrade
00:56 martian523 problematic row....
00:55 mtj hm, i wonder if there is a problematic row in the vendors table
00:54 mtj hmm, weird :(
00:53 martian523 gives back the same error even if i don't put anything there and just press submit
00:52 mtj odd, unusual
00:51 martian523 what do mean by interesting?
00:51 mtj ..search works ok with '%' value?
00:50 mtj martian523: anything interestng in yr koha/apache logs?
00:39 martian523 and it came back with the error
00:39 martian523 mtj, i just searched for a vendor
00:10 liz <3 <3
00:07 eythian Also the Wellington.
00:07 eythian Check out the cars and the hair.
00:03 liz but it is in my watch later! (which means in like, 2 hours)
00:03 liz I have to wait to watch that >.<
00:02 * liz subscribes
00:02 liz oooh
00:01 eythian liz: https://youtu.be/VN2pSPZFHqA
00:00 jac Sorry got to go goodnight!
00:00 * liz snickers at creepy wahanui
00:00 wahanui Don't go, jac. Stay a while. Stay forever.
00:00 jac good night
00:00 CrispyBran Good night all!