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20:26 wizzyrea hi
20:56 eythian wizzyrea: you lie!
20:57 wizzyrea :O
20:58 * cait1 waves
21:11 BobB good morning
21:11 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one
21:11 BobB summer holiday is over (:
21:12 liw @wunder helsinki
21:12 huginn liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -7.0°C (10:50 PM EET on January 15, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
21:12 liw the weather would certainly indicate summer in .fi is pretty much over
21:12 wizzyrea I'm not sure what I lie about :(
21:12 BobB @wunder sydney, new south wales
21:13 huginn BobB: Error: No such location could be found.
21:13 BobB @wunder sydney
21:13 huginn BobB: Error: No such location could be found.
21:13 BobB @wunder Sydney, Australia
21:13 huginn BobB: The current temperature in Mascot, Mascot, Australia is 24.4°C (8:13 AM AEDT on January 16, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
21:14 liw wizzyrea, on a couch, maybe?
21:33 eythian wizzyrea: "hi"
21:34 eythian @wunder Jordaan, Amsterdam
21:34 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 6.5°C (10:28 PM CET on January 15, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
21:35 eythian That doesn't seem correct
21:56 kchris Hi #koha, does anyone have experience creating systempreferences to customize the opac?
21:56 kchris I am trying to make a patch for bug 12219.
21:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12219 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Purchase Suggestions branch level permissions
21:57 eythian http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/why-a-fake-patron-named-chuck-finley-checked-out-2361-books-at-this-florida-library-last-year <-- relevant to everyone here
21:57 rangi kchris: yep the patch there looks ok for adding the syspref
22:00 kchris What I am struggling with, is how to hide the purchase suggestions link when a patron's branchcode is NOT included in the systempreference list.
22:00 kchris I have tried placing the code in the opac-user.pl. And modifying usermenu.inc
22:01 rangi you dont need any code in the .pl file
22:01 rangi you see in usermenu.inc
22:02 kchris I need to process the list of branchcodes in the systempreference.
22:02 rangi you can do it in the template
22:02 kchris And see if there is a match with Loginuserbranchcode.
22:02 kchris Okay.
22:02 rangi Koha.Preference('SuggestionLibraryList') gets you the value of that system preference
22:02 kchris Right.
22:03 rangi so split it by |
22:03 kchris So it's okay to use perl in the templates themselves?
22:03 kchris I didn't see alot of it there.
22:04 rangi http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/VMethods.html#method_split
22:04 rangi don't jump out to perl
22:04 rangi just use the TT methods
22:04 kchris Okay.
22:04 wizzyrea eythian: that one has been making quite the rounds in library circles
22:04 wizzyrea mostly judging the librarians for doing it, and not being critical of the algorithm that made it tempting to do it.
22:05 rangi [% FOREACH library IN Koha.Preference('SuggestionLibraryList').split('|') %]
22:05 rangi somethign like that
22:06 eythian wizzyrea: hah, though a pity about the response.
22:06 kchris Thanks, rangi.
22:06 wizzyrea inflating circ stats is kinda a big crime
22:07 wizzyrea but i mean, if no one has checked out hamlet in 2 years, that's kinda normal.
22:07 wizzyrea and rebuying books is pretty dumb.
22:07 wizzyrea (if they are in good nick to begin with, etc etc)
22:10 eythian wizzyrea: well, I think there should be a process to reserve things for the greater good
22:10 wizzyrea agreed, I wish they'd have taken their concerns to the vendor of the weeding program, instead of being dishonest
22:10 eythian And if people are going to ridiculous lengths to do so, then there's a sign the
22:10 wizzyrea but it's proprietary so
22:10 eythian there
22:11 eythian Yeah, but the actual paring is by a person surely
22:11 wizzyrea probably some institutional history there as well that isn't reported
22:11 eythian Could be
22:11 eythian Probably will be
22:12 eythian Any story is bigger than reported
22:13 wizzyrea the notion that their actions there increased circ by 3.9% is the most significantly ethically egregious bit, since it could inflate funding artificially
22:14 wizzyrea rather like the libraries who don't cull their active user lists so they can claim 15000 library users in a town of 5k
22:18 wizzyrea some big libraries have a service come in to do the weed, so that things like staff feelings don't get in the way of the weeding
22:18 wizzyrea no idea if that's what was going to happen here, but it seems clear the staff who did it were aware it was going to happen
22:18 wizzyrea aware *something was going to happen
22:19 wizzyrea I'm no advocate for keeping things just to keep them, but there is a balance to be struck, especially in fiction
22:20 cait1 there was something here too - on some blogs
22:20 cait1 it's annyoing that all the comments plan 'the evil software'
22:20 cait1 blame not plan
22:21 cait1 some said 'robin hood' of the books
22:21 wizzyrea it sounded to me like there was a conversation that needed to happen in the library, that wasn't happening for one reason or another
22:22 wizzyrea and chances are good that the report or tool they used to do the weed was too aggressive (they often are, which is why people go over the lists before culling)
22:23 cait1 yeah or maybe some district guidelines?
22:23 cait1 something the library didn't come up with themselves?
22:24 wizzyrea could be lotsa stuff, politics of weeding is tough
22:24 cait1 but silly to blame software... software doesn't take books of shelves and throws them out.
22:29 dcook ^
22:29 dcook Nothing quite like FUD in libraries...