Time Nick Message 23:38 dcook Anywho. *puts head down again* 23:38 dcook plenv. Maybe that's what it's called 23:37 dcook Mind you... that really gets into that awful space of whether packages are better or not.. 23:37 dcook With Plack, it would be awesome to use something like Carton or some other kind of virtual environment 23:37 * dcook looks up whether perlenv is a thing 23:36 dcook Fedora's is awesome though 23:36 dcook And OpenSuse's cpanspec tool suuuucks 23:36 dcook Although we use OpenSuse, so that doesn't quite help us. 23:36 dcook There is someone who has packaged up all the Perl for Fedora though, which is awesome 23:36 dcook I'd like to make RPMs at some point, but don't have enough time to be a RPM package manager 23:35 dcook For better or worse : p 23:35 dcook It lets us do things our own way as well 23:35 dcook It's not that hard really 23:35 * dcook shrugs 23:35 mtompset Bravo soul you are. :) 23:35 dcook If I did, I would use it for sure though 23:34 dcook I don't use Debian :) 23:34 mtompset Does make testing debian/scripts tweaks easier too. :) 23:34 dcook Also, while koha-gitify is cool, it's unusable for changes to a lot of things 23:34 dcook I'll try it out at some point as it's a cool idea though. 23:33 dcook I think I'm good for now. 23:32 mtompset But if you have thoe already configured in what you use for development, kohadevbox is worth a whirl. 23:32 mtompset dcook: Well, the only advantage of not using kohadevbox is avoiding the caching headaches. ;) 23:31 bag that will be the school that Ginny starts kindergarten at next fall 23:31 bag 1854 23:30 wahanui i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 23:30 mtompset Interesting. 23:30 bag suitable to a mountain housing a religious group such as theirs. 23:30 bag At a congregational meeting the name Mt. Zion had already been selected when Plympton Kelly arrived, late. He had been engrossed in Joel T. Headley's book Napoleon and his Marshall and was afire with enthusiasm about a battle between the French and the Moslems near Mt. Tabor, on the Plain of Estraelon in Palestine. His zeal convinced the congregation that Mt. Zion (a popular name in those years) was too common, and that Mt. Tabor was more 23:29 mtompset See how I tied it back into dcook's video? :) 23:29 bag mtompset: http://www.pps.net/domain/1984 23:29 mtompset The 1890's? ;) 23:29 * mtompset smirks. 23:29 bag one sec mtompset - I have a history doc on that 23:28 bag I think it was named in the mid 1800s 23:28 bag and yes it’s the mountain that you are thinking of ;) well the reference and the naming of this local one 23:28 bag it’s a biblical reference that’s for sure 23:26 mtompset Mount Tabor? .... Tabor... Isn't that Bible College/University and some mountain reference in the Bible, bag? 23:25 dcook ok... 23:24 mtompset It's on his github, I vaguely recall. 23:24 mtompset Joubu wrote a branched fork which finds the missing dependencies and applies them for the patch being specified in the git bz. 23:24 * dcook also doesn't use kohadevbox :p 23:23 dcook mtompset: I have no idea what "Jonathan's autofind dependencies" is 23:23 mtompset git bz is using Jonathan's autofind dependencies now on kohadevbox, I think. 23:23 dcook I was half-tempted just to do bug reports for these and move on, but I figure they're small enough changes that I should just sit down and do them now.. 23:22 aleisha reminds me i should start prepping some bugs for academy too 23:22 aleisha sweet 23:22 dcook I have another one coming in a few minutes too with the installer 23:22 dcook Noo worries 23:22 aleisha thanks for that dcook! 23:19 dcook I'll add a keyword.. 23:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17882 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , C4::Installer::PerlModules::version_info() drops data during error handling 23:19 dcook rangi: Bug 17882 is probably another good one for Academy folk 23:06 dcook (and this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZt-pOc3moc) 23:04 dcook I suppose I can't complain here 23:04 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, Australia is 24.0°C (9:30 AM AEDT on January 12, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 23:04 dcook @wunder syd 23:04 dcook Just thinking of all those videos of buses sliding down hills.. 23:03 dcook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_HGqPGp9iY 23:03 bag yes we live at the base of Mount Tabor an old volcano 23:03 dcook Ack 23:03 dcook Also, every time I think of you in Portland, I think about this: Also, is Po 23:02 dcook Do you have many hills in Portland? 23:02 bag should be fun getting there - the buses are still running 23:02 dcook I was on a cab to the train station at 6am and got a text saying my train was cancelled... 23:02 bag crazy because the blazers are still having their game tonight - I’ve got tickets 23:01 dcook Enough to get the trains cancelled though 23:01 dcook I was in Seattle a few weeks ago, and my wife was delighted by the snow, although I think it was mostly a dusting 23:01 bag crazy 23:01 dcook Crazy weather at the moment, no? 23:01 bag seattle got none ;) 23:01 bag dcook we got a foot of snow last night 23:01 dcook On a wednesday 23:00 dcook Yeah, I see that 23:00 bag it’s 3pm 23:00 * dcook checks what time it is in Portland 23:00 bag evreything in life is a reference interview 23:00 dcook Actually, I've had a few really good online reference interviews as a patron.. 22:59 dcook Although I couldn't get a definitive answer as to why bananas had peels 22:59 dcook I learned that bananas are technically berries :p 22:59 dcook I think my favourite reference interview was when I was trying out a library's MSN reference service 22:59 bag reference interview via irc/google 22:58 dcook hehe 22:58 bag thanks dcook that was the next step in my reference interview 22:58 dcook bag: I think rangi shared a tweet about it yesterday 22:56 wahanui logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ 22:56 bag logs? 22:56 bag irclogs? 22:55 dcook Maybe because I tried to change the status twice in a row.. 22:55 dcook Actually, I was able to attach one.. 22:54 dcook Getting a "Suspicious Action" when I'm trying to submit.. 22:54 dcook rangi: Is there a new version of git bz? 22:50 bag hmm what did I miss? 22:50 dcook Oh yeah... I was wondering about that as well 22:49 rangi hmm still waiting for the big equinox news 22:30 dac restart failing for koha-zebra. That sounds super familiar. 22:28 huginn` mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 13 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <Joubu> bye #koha! 22:28 mtompset @seen Joubu 22:28 mtompset You're doing great. 22:28 mtompset Sorry if I'm being too tough. :) 22:27 mtompset Greetings, alexbuckley alexbuckley_ 22:27 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded. 22:27 mtompset @later tell tcohen where log_end is whatever msg-y thing in the other function. 22:26 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded. 22:26 mtompset @later tell tcohen are you talking about the restart failing for koha-zebra? Yes, I have had it not restart *ALWAYS*. The log_end triggers an end of script end, so the && doesn't get evaluated -- as far as I can tell. 22:24 huginn` mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 38 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: * tcohen learnt to love cider 22:24 mtompset @seen tcohen 22:24 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 21:38 huginn` kidclamp: The operation succeeded. 21:38 kidclamp @later tell LibraryClaire Quack! 21:28 LibraryClaire g'night #koha 21:15 Joubu bye #koha! 21:10 Joubu and sign off them all :) 21:10 Joubu josef_moravec: you can see at the different patches applied on the github branch 21:09 Joubu a crazy one... 21:09 Joubu it's a first shoot 21:09 Joubu not at all :) 21:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17829 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Move GetMember to Koha::Patron 21:09 josef_moravec Joubu: is bug 17829 ready for some kind of testing? 21:07 drojf bye #koha 21:03 barton That needs to go into the quote list. 21:03 cait reed_++ 21:03 rangi reed_: excellent :) 21:03 cait :) 21:03 reed_ Also -- thanks everybody. Koha is part of my evidence the world is still a nice place to live. 21:02 reed_ Hi all - I just wanted to drop in and say I'm still looking at redhat/centos install simplification - but not had heaps of time to give it - will let you all know when there's something to see. 21:02 barton ... with a little bit of teamwork, I think that all of those could be converted in a day or two. 21:01 * cait sends Joubu snacks to go with it 21:01 Joubu that will be weird after the tisane! 21:01 barton In the "For what it's worth" category, I just ran grep marcxml /tmp/mysql_reports_library.txt | wc -l -- there were only 118 hits. 21:00 * LibraryClaire sends Joubu beer 21:00 Joubu Sorry, I only found topics to grumble :) 20:59 josef_moravec kidclamp++ 20:59 davidnind kidclamp++ 20:59 kidclamp Joubu++ 20:59 Joubu less than 1 hour, good job :) 20:59 LibraryClaire kidclamp++ 20:59 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_11_january_2017.2017-01-11-20.01.log.html 20:59 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_11_january_2017.2017-01-11-20.01.txt 20:59 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_11_january_2017.2017-01-11-20.01.html 20:59 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Jan 11 20:59:00 2017 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 20:58 kidclamp #endmeeting 20:58 cait kidclamp++ 20:58 kidclamp #info Next meeting is 25 January 2017, 13 UTC 20:58 Joubu yep 20:58 Joubu oops 20:58 Joubu cal 20:57 LibraryClaire fine by me 20:57 kidclamp January 25th at 13 UTC? 20:56 Joubu rangi: yes, we talked about that at the hackfest in Marseille 20:56 kidclamp tcohen said he wanted more of these meetings, so two weeks out? 20:56 davidnind barton: thanks 20:56 kidclamp #topic Next Meeting 20:56 cait jinx? :) 20:56 rangi id make sure you talk with them then, to make sure that they think about versioning reports 20:56 drojf rangi: i think the new biblibre intern is going to work on it? 20:56 Joubu rangi: Paul announces the arrival of a new intern at BibLIbre for 6 months 20:55 kidclamp I think Pual just announced a new staffer working on Mana 20:55 rangi because if the reports were going to end up in there, they could be versioned pretty easily 20:55 kidclamp (he is kidclamp's new favorite) 20:55 kidclamp #action nvm, davidnind will send out the note about reports 20:55 barton davidnind: very good. Ping me when you've got a plan; I can copy the reports library into vim and hack and slash. 20:55 rangi anyone know what happened with https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Mana_central_database 20:54 davidnind kidclamp: will do 20:54 kidclamp davidnind++ 20:54 kidclamp ? 20:54 kidclamp you want to send out the note davidnind 20:54 LibraryClaire i think adding a new page for 17.05+ reports and linking to them from the current ones isn't a bad plan 20:54 cait davidnind++ 20:54 davidnind I am happy to work on this, including putting together some initial ideas and plan to address the current challenges 20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move marcxml out of the biblioitems table 20:54 kidclamp #action kidclamp will email the list for help in preparing reports affected by bug 17196 20:53 barton kidclamp: If we can figure out how we're going to handle the 17.05+ reports, yes. 20:53 kidclamp (and I will do it sooner rather than later) 20:53 kidclamp I will put a call out on the list and see if we can enlist help/ideas 20:53 kidclamp volunteering barton? 20:52 barton but that's off topic. 20:52 barton It wouldn't be hard to actually refactor the page into sections and just have https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library be a list of links to the pages... 20:51 cait i think no progress there for a while 20:51 barton kidclamp: yeah, there's a note from Brooke, but I don't know where the new pages are. 20:51 drojf which is annoying for just searching through all of them. but maybe that is just my approach to mysql :P 20:50 kidclamp someone was moving all the reprt sections to their own pages weren't they? 20:50 cait the page already loads forever, might be good to start splitting it up that way 20:50 cait on a separate page - and say 17.05+ 20:50 kidclamp I think just add to the section for querying marc a pre17.05 and post 17.05 section 20:49 cait we could move the catalouging reports out 20:49 Joubu if we have 2 versions, the wiki page will be...gigantic 20:49 Joubu if we have only 1 version, it won't work for older stables 20:48 Joubu how could we fix the wiki page? 20:48 kidclamp I think a warning in release notes, database udpate, and on the wiki should cover things pretty well 20:48 barton cait: in it's most generic form, I think you're right. 20:48 kidclamp cait: agreed - everyone writes reports differently, trying to fix is likely to break more :-) 20:48 drojf i was not volunteering, that's for sure :P 20:47 cait i don't think automatically rewriting the reports is an easy task 20:47 drojf we got a wiki curator for that, right 20:47 barton we'll also need to update https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 20:47 cait you have to do a new join 20:47 cait too many different ways to do it 20:47 drojf or make a copy that regexes it right 20:47 cait drojf: i tihnk we can't savely 20:47 Joubu FF tells me that there is more than 100 matches of "marcxml" on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 20:47 cait but the report is a good idea 20:47 drojf if we change the title we can just change the report 20:46 cait or we could add a FIXME in front of the report title? 20:46 cait yeah, that was the kid of thing i was thinkig of :) 20:45 Joubu kidclamp: that even should be added to the update DB entry 20:45 kidclamp Add to release notes a report to find all reports containing 'marcxml' 20:45 barton right... and in most cases, it's probably going to be a matter of s/biblioitems/metadata/g 20:45 drojf thats a lot of magic for people that copied a report from the wiki once in their life 20:45 cait like helping to spot the ones that need to be fixed 20:45 cait i just was wondering if we could make the work of fixing them easier for the library 20:44 cait i know 20:44 kidclamp generally it just requires a join to the metadata table 20:44 barton FWIW, I think most of the broken reports should be pretty easy to fix. 20:44 Joubu we can also say that 17196 is a bug fix :) 20:44 cait i think it would be nice to have a visual clue, that the report needs to be fixed 20:43 cait yeah both would not be hard 20:43 barton cait: I think that it should be fairly easy to add warns on the update process. 20:43 rangi (only half joking, refactoring should not change any functionality, sounds like we plan to change reports functionality, hence that is a rewrite) 20:43 kidclamp in case of anything we do miss 20:43 wahanui it has been said that broken is not what we want. 20:43 Joubu what is broken? 20:43 kidclamp some of these want to get in early so we have time to fix before release though, so don't want to wait too long 20:42 kidclamp heh 20:42 rangi also refactoring doesnt break things, so maybe just call it rewriting :) 20:42 cait or give a warning int he update process? 20:41 cait like ... amen dthe title? 20:41 cait hm could we mark reports breaking? 20:41 Joubu rangi: the 3 failures on master seems trivial to fix 20:41 rangi if we cant have confidence in the tests, it makes it very hard for me to be confident in the refactored code 20:41 kidclamp that will break many reports, but should be an improvement in other areas 20:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move marcxml out of the biblioitems table 20:40 cait bug 17196 20:40 Joubu even 3 20:40 Joubu kidclamp: yes, better to get 2 on this one :) 20:40 rangi before we push anymore refactoring 20:40 kidclamp and marcel is looking too now I believe 20:40 rangi that we need to get master passing all tests cleanly and for a week or two 20:39 kidclamp 17196 I did a QA pass, only didn't mark because tcohen had said he was going to look so waited for him 20:39 Joubu if you want to help 20:39 rangi i reckon 20:39 Joubu they are omnibus or big refactoring 20:39 Joubu Well I did not want to monolog, I don't think it's useful to re-explain these bugs 20:38 kidclamp Do you have anything specific to add Joubu or just a call on those bugs? 20:38 kidclamp #info Help for refactoring 20:37 Joubu nuentoter: the entry point is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Benchmark_for_16.11 20:36 kidclamp #help QA team should be checking critical bugs frequently and keep them moving 20:36 Joubu but QAers should be able to find the bugs which are important to QA 20:35 Joubu I hope that the new stuff I added to the dashboard will permit to highlight that better 20:35 Joubu (it's not the first time it happens) 20:34 Joubu I don't think it is normal 20:34 Joubu it is a critical one, and affect stable release 20:34 nuentoter Sorry, was busy, what do I need to do to help benchmark? I have 4 computers to spare 20:34 Joubu which was very easy 20:34 Joubu was waiting since 2017-01-03 for a QA 20:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17817 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Repeat this Tag (cloning) not working 20:34 Joubu About the QA, I wanted to highlight that bug 17817 20:33 Joubu thd: I have a laptop, not a dedicated server. Not the best env to benchmark 20:33 khall_ Indeed 20:33 kidclamp 'tis true 20:33 rangi is that having a QA manager (well having cait really) was incredibly useful 20:32 thd Joubu: You seem to suggest that you trust yourself better with confirmation ;) 20:32 rangi i think what we have learned 20:32 Joubu That way I can continue to complain 20:32 kidclamp #info where are the QAers? 20:32 kidclamp #topic Updates from the QA team 20:32 kidclamp was just going to :-) 20:32 Joubu kidclamp: you can move on I think :) 20:31 Joubu If you are fine with my graphs, you can also trust me if you prefer 20:31 kidclamp sneaky 20:30 Joubu (...) 20:30 Joubu I know nobody test because there is a bug I did not fix 20:30 cait Joubu++ (again :)) 20:30 Joubu so basically, just try and follow the README 20:30 Joubu (it was a when, not where, typing to fast) 20:30 kidclamp (or clone Joubu) 20:30 kidclamp #info we need more people to replay the benchmarks and report results 20:29 thd s/complain/report/g 20:29 Joubu I only have 1 laptop, I cannot play it on different machines 20:29 rangi :) 20:29 Joubu and see if my numbers are confirmed 20:29 Joubu but I make things really easy to replay the scripts 20:29 drojf you want people to complain? 20:29 Joubu (ok it's the expected behavior :)) 20:28 Joubu but nobody when it's better 20:28 Joubu everybody complains where it's slow 20:28 Joubu yes, benchmarks, I'd like to get feedbacks 20:28 Joubu barton: yes 20:28 khall_ Barton yep 20:28 kidclamp #topic Benchmark? 20:28 kidclamp #info more info on the list next week 20:27 barton khall -- your "bug/patch for each notice" ... that's essentially going to be adding new default notices to the database? 20:27 kidclamp #info many willing to help on this, we need to convert all the default notices 20:26 cait that will us also give time to fix stuff we might have missed 20:26 Joubu we are just making it the default 20:26 cait +1 20:26 Joubu it's already like that actually :) 20:26 rangi good 20:25 Joubu both syntaxes will be supported 20:25 rangi so both syntaxes will work? 20:25 Joubu no plan, they will still work 20:25 rangi whats the plan to deal with all the notices created locally? 20:25 Joubu kidclamp: yes, will do that next week 20:24 khall basically, we need a bug/patch for each notice 20:24 cait hm? 20:24 Joubu but it's not possible to make it work with our "old" syntax 20:24 Joubu there is only 1 bug (not pushed yet) which provide a TT version of the notice 20:24 kidclamp is there a list of bugs to prioritize? 20:24 cait cool 20:23 Joubu both will work 20:23 barton I'll be happy to do some wiki wrangling. 20:23 Joubu yep definitely 20:23 barton ... I was thinking that would be a good place to put example TT notices. 20:22 cait will they crash or can we make it both work? 20:22 barton I created a notices and slips library: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notices_and_Slips_Library 20:22 Joubu so we are too many now :p 20:22 LibraryClaire I am willing to help if it is something I can help with 20:22 cait Joubu: i saw there is also a patch about translating notices 20:22 Joubu ok perfect :) 20:22 cait testing and documenting I can help with a bit 20:22 kidclamp I would like to see it happen so willing to help 20:21 josef_moravec I like the idea of TT syntax, so when I was able to help, I'd like to 20:21 Joubu any kinds of help 20:21 Joubu first need to know who wants to contribute :) 20:21 rangi we might be able to do something, but it all depends on whatever work falls on our plates 20:21 LibraryClaire what sort of help? 20:21 khall I am willing and able, of course 20:21 Joubu if we do not get people to contribute, I will postpone 20:21 josef_moravec Joubu: what is needed? 20:21 Joubu we need a roadmap if we want everything ready for the next release 20:20 Joubu Yes, I'd like to know who is willing to help with that 20:20 kidclamp #info Roadmap for The TT syntax for notices? 20:20 kidclamp #topic General development discussion 20:20 kidclamp josef_moravec++ 20:19 josef_moravec I am planning to sign off on 17817 20:19 cait there might be others, I have to catch up a bit with things pushed and reported 20:19 kidclamp #help please look at bug 17817 before 16.11.2 20:19 cait thx! 20:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17817 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Repeat this Tag (cloning) not working 20:19 Joubu bug 17817 20:19 Joubu 17817 20:18 cait Joubu: do you happen to have the bug number? 20:18 kidclamp #info string freeze coming, cait will email the lists 20:18 cait I'd love to see the problem in catalouging with authorised values fixed 20:18 cait so 16.11.2 is already coming up fast again 20:18 kidclamp #topic Progress on current release (16.11) 20:18 cait i will be sending an email to the mailing list 20:18 cait string freeze is on Sunday 20:17 cait hm 20:17 kidclamp Anything on 16.11 cait? 20:17 kidclamp #info Kyle will push bug 16239 on Friday - this will cause some other bugs to need rebasing - be aware 20:17 rangi that will be nice to get in there 20:17 khall that is all ; ) 20:17 khall I think I will hold off until friday and make it the final push of the day 20:16 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Passed QA , Upgrade Bootstrap in the staff client 20:16 khall Of note, I imagine bug 16239 will trigger much patch rebasing once it is pushed 20:16 caboose__ #info Michael Cabus, BWS (Princeton, NJ, USA) 20:15 khall we're making good progress on unifying all the payment subroutines! 20:15 barton #info Barton Chittenden, BWS (Louisville, KY, USA, Earth, SOL) 20:15 khall Same old, pushing patches as they pass qa 20:15 wahanui khall is, like, volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;) 20:15 kidclamp khall? 20:14 kidclamp #topic Progress on next release (17.05) 20:13 kidclamp please comment on the list for discussion 20:13 Joubu to open the details 20:13 Joubu rangi: thanks. And so you can click on the "Overall health status" header 20:13 kidclamp I didn't follow up on my action until today so tabling until next meeting 20:13 cait Joubu++ 20:13 kidclamp #topic Review of coding guidelines 20:13 rangi needs some styling, but otherwise works 20:12 Joubu unless someone wants to do it... 20:12 wahanui http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise 20:12 rangi Joubu: http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ 20:12 Joubu I can take a look at the failing tests tomorrow 20:12 Joubu just time and synchro with tcohen to fix the badges 20:12 kidclamp Anything to do here or just info? 20:11 kidclamp #info Badges are broken on Jenkins and there are some failing tests 20:11 cait same for the current one in decreaseloanperiod tests 20:10 Joubu but it's getting to far :) 20:10 cait in 16.11. i might need some help to find the problem - usually the tests failing on jenkins are passing for me locally 20:10 Joubu so yes, we have failures: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ 20:10 rangi kidclamp: but this is more about the icons not showing on the dashboard 20:10 rangi kidclamp: there are failing tests too 20:10 Joubu rangi: yep, this one :) 20:10 kidclamp ? 20:09 rangi https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8//badge/icon 20:09 kidclamp so it is broken tests then that need fixed/ 20:09 rangi however this is still broken 20:09 Joubu so it's just the badges plugin, we did not manage to configure it correctly apparently 20:09 rangi i switched the dns 20:09 Joubu ha yes indeed! 20:09 rangi https://jenkins.koha-community.org/ is jenkins.theke.io 20:09 rangi ) 20:09 rangi (the dns 20:08 rangi yeah i think its pointing there now 20:08 Joubu but we did not manage to get the status icons back 20:08 Joubu jenkins.theke.io is the good one 20:08 rangi im not sure, tcohen knows 20:08 Joubu je 20:08 Joubu If I understood correctly 20:08 Joubu The BibLibre server hosting Jenkins has not been correctly updated 20:07 cait ah, that's not good then 20:07 Joubu rangi: I have just tried it with a 6 months old DB, so had to tweak a bit 20:07 rangi its brokne on jenkins end 20:07 rangi yes 20:07 cait not sure why and if someone has looked into it? 20:07 LibraryClaire Joubu++ 20:07 josef_moravec Joubu++ 20:07 cait i have noticed the build statuses have been broken for a while 20:07 Joubu it's just a quick start, to get feedbacks 20:06 rangi it seems good to me so far, ill probably merge it after/during the meeting 20:06 Joubu to know what is important 20:06 kidclamp Joubu++ 20:06 Joubu in NEW, NSO, SO, PQA 20:06 Joubu the crit/blocker/maj 20:06 cait Joubu++ 20:06 Joubu cait: yep 20:06 Joubu the goal is to have a new section to quickly display the "hot" bug report 20:06 cait ah, PR = Pull request? 20:06 Joubu I have just sent a PR to Chris for the dashboard 20:06 kidclamp want to explain Joubu? 20:05 kidclamp #info PR koha-dashboard to display an "overall health status" 20:05 nuentoter #info Justin Martin, Abel J. Morneault memorial library, United States 20:05 kidclamp #topic Announcements 20:04 kidclamp seems like a full house 20:04 nuentoter #info 20:03 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart, France 20:03 josef_moravec #info Josef Moravec, Municipal LIbrary Usti nad Orlici, Czech Republic 20:03 reed_ #info Reed Wade, prev Catalyst IT 20:02 drojf #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany 20:02 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 20:02 LibraryClaire #info Claire Gravely, BSZ, Germany 20:02 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 20:02 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:01 rangi #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT 20:01 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 20:01 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 20:01 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_11_january_2017' 20:01 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:01 huginn` Meeting started Wed Jan 11 20:01:33 2017 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:01 kidclamp #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 11 January 2017 20:01 kidclamp Hi everyone! Going to start the meeting and give a little time for people to trickle in 19:59 oleonard Bye all. Have a fun meeting. 19:57 cait i know :) 19:57 * cait waves 19:57 kidclamp meeting soon 19:56 * kidclamp waves 19:49 edveal oleonard I am now with Houston Public lib and we are looking at using Fedora for the AV digital archives. 19:47 oleonard Oh wait... That's not about hats is it? 19:43 edveal currently sitting in a Fedora Repository conference at University of Houston. 19:42 edveal Hot 19:40 rangi hi edveal hows houston? 19:38 edveal Hello 19:34 * oleonard laughs at the thought of American politicians using a library 19:33 rangi crisis averted politicians can search the catalogue without logging in again 19:32 rangi because we lc stuff now 19:32 rangi that now needs to be OVERRIDE_SYSPREF_opacpublic 19:32 rangi ahh ha 19:04 rangi i might just do a quick hack with https://metacpan.org/pod/Plack::Middleware::ForceEnv 19:02 rangi ill look at that pull request in a minute .. just have to fix the nz parliamentary library server (or turn plack back off) :) 19:02 rangi thanks Joubu 19:01 * LibraryClaire now wants a beer 19:01 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16520 minor, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Per-virtualhost SetEnvs don't work with Plack 19:01 Joubu rangi: bug 16520 should fix that 19:01 rangi thats what i feared 19:01 Joubu even if it's too early for you :p 19:01 Joubu rangi: grab a beer instead 19:00 rangi working with plack? 19:00 rangi SetEnvIf Remote_Addr "202.78.240.7" OVERRIDE_SYSPREF_OpacPublic=1 18:59 rangi has anyone got things like 18:53 LibraryClaire hihi 18:53 oleonard So if I seem grumpy... 18:53 drojf oleonard: makes sense 18:53 * oleonard is putting his liquor budget into the Koha travel fund 18:53 LibraryClaire hm 18:53 drojf LibraryClaire: try it, for science 18:53 LibraryClaire hi rangi 18:53 LibraryClaire i have some too but last time i had it i went really red lol 18:53 drojf hi rangi, got ahightlight on cider too? 18:52 rangi morning 18:52 drojf got a bottle in the fridge 18:51 LibraryClaire aw I fancy some cider now 18:48 LibraryClaire creperie 18:48 drojf :D 18:47 oleonard http://zivotdesign.com/p/#s/14841604515075 18:46 drojf the cidre in marseille was really nice 18:45 * tcohen learnt to love cider 18:45 LibraryClaire lol tcohen 18:45 tcohen someone said cider? 18:45 wahanui LibraryClaire: huh? 18:45 LibraryClaire wahanui referred to itself as a he 18:45 LibraryClaire lady bots 18:45 drojf yay more bots 18:44 oleonard #koha needs more gender diversity in its bots 18:43 drojf "secretly" 18:43 * LibraryClaire secretly missed him 18:43 LibraryClaire oh, ok then 18:42 oleonard No LibraryClaire, we just got him back! 18:42 drojf oh, wrong way 18:42 * drojf heads to the sub 18:42 LibraryClaire go away wahanui 18:41 drojf lol 18:41 wahanui the pub is the public key, sub is a sub-key 18:41 drojf where is the pub? 18:41 * oleonard checks how much change is in his 'Koha travel' jar 18:41 LibraryClaire yay come to the pub! 18:40 drojf rakia and the pub 18:40 drojf sounds good 18:40 * oleonard wants to head down to the Irish pub with everyone after work 18:40 LibraryClaire baileys :D 18:40 Joubu rakia then 18:39 drojf too sweet 18:39 Joubu More something like Cointreau 18:38 drojf lol 18:38 drojf pastis with cider instead of water 18:38 drojf cider and pastis 18:38 Joubu you need something stronger then cider 18:37 drojf cidre 18:36 drojf does it come with cider? 18:36 LibraryClaire :P 18:36 Joubu and this chan is logged.. :) 18:36 Joubu French administration (I can talk about that for ages, but it's really not interesting) 18:36 drojf have crunchy snow, will trade for holidays 18:35 drojf yes please 18:35 Joubu holidays, weather, beer, food 18:35 LibraryClaire i like beer 18:34 Joubu related to whatever you want 18:33 kidclamp heh 18:33 drojf related to beer? 18:33 Joubu actually I think I can add thousands of topics if some devs are around :p 18:32 kidclamp tcohen, are you still wnating to host a second meeting each month? 18:32 Joubu indeed! 18:32 kidclamp better late than never Joubu? 18:31 huginn` kidclamp: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. 18:31 kidclamp kidclamp-- 18:31 oleonard O, the tales talljoy_plumber could tell. 18:31 Joubu kidclamp: so basically you just postponed the single topic we had for the dev meeting, that's it? :) 18:22 tcohen ah, let me try 18:22 Joubu tcohen: on the add item form, if you have a repeatable field, it won't work 18:20 tcohen Joubu: what do u mean the add item form is failing? 18:10 kidclamp oleonard++ 18:08 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 18:08 Joubu @later tell rangi sent you a PR for koha-dashboard, let me know what you think about the idea 18:07 Joubu unless Patricio is going to fix the 2 issues quickly :) 18:06 Joubu y 18:05 Joubu we need it into the next 16.11.x 18:05 Joubu yes 18:05 tcohen Joubu: so, disabling select2? 18:03 LibraryClaire hi #koha 18:00 Joubu it's very tricky, I have already spent 2h on it :) 18:00 Joubu we should go with my patch, then try to fix it on another bug 17:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17817 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Repeat this Tag (cloning) not working 17:59 Joubu tcohen: I failed bug 17817 17:45 CrispyBran Anyone know how to improve the print quality of Chrome? 17:37 Error_Null and i dont know how to fix it 17:36 Error_Null not for all 17:36 Error_Null but just for some records 17:36 Error_Null instead of title it shows the word "null" 17:35 Error_Null and i see their check outs there is a problems 17:35 Error_Null when i look for an user 17:34 Error_Null i got a problem with some records 17:33 Error_Null I need some help 17:33 Error_Null Hello everyone 17:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15908 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Remove use of recordpayment_selectaccts 17:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15909 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Remove the use of makepartialpayment 17:33 jenkins * kyle: Bug 15908 - Remove use of recordpayment_selectaccts 17:33 jenkins * kyle: Bug 15909 - Remove the use of makepartialpayment 17:33 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #85: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/85/ 16:49 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 9.0°C (5:40 PM CET on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 16:49 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams 16:32 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 16:32 tcohen @later tell mtompset have you tried koha-zebra or just theoretically found that issue? 16:18 reiveune bye 16:11 eythian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wewAC5X_CZ8& <-- if you haven't seen this, you should see this. It's pretty funny. 16:01 LibraryClaire laters #koha 15:56 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15898 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Use Koha::Account::pay internally for makepartialpayment 15:56 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15879 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow multiple plugin directories to be defined in koha-conf.xml 15:56 jenkins * kyle: Bug 15898 - Use Koha::Account::pay internally for makepartialpayment 15:56 jenkins * kyle: Bug 15879: Add Tests 15:56 jenkins * kyle: Bug 15879: Allow multiple plugin directories to be defined in 15:56 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #84: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/84/ 14:42 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15908 - Remove use of recordpayment_selectaccts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e0becf91586b6a03d2e5681eb63483dc06cd940> / Bug 15909 - Remove the use of makepartialpayment <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f51f7a7adec3c98319d508d4e967bb4533badab> 14:36 drojf he said thanks. tasty xslt. or he is just very polite 14:34 LibraryClaire he didn't complain 14:33 drojf he liked it 14:33 * LibraryClaire pats wahanui 14:33 wahanui Will he ever win? 14:33 LibraryClaire poor wahanui 14:33 wahanui thanks drojf :) 14:33 drojf wahanui botsnack xslt 14:32 drojf poor xslt 14:32 * LibraryClaire sympathises 14:31 * magnuse shakes his fist at xslt and wanders off 14:12 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15898 - Use Koha::Account::pay internally for makepartialpayment <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e134350813db967458ca8a0928210909d5ec7e4d> / Bug 15879: Add Tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf52095e19a348865f3728c43f20ebb2e2415dd8> / Bug 15879: Allow multiple plugin directories to be defined in koha-conf.xml <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k 14:02 marcelr good 14:01 tcohen1 just thought worth mentioning 14:01 tcohen1 cool 14:00 marcelr there is a todo somewhere about error reporting 14:00 marcelr probably on a new report.. 13:59 marcelr i maybe should :) 13:59 tcohen1 marcelr: have you considered raising exceptions instead of warning on the logs? 13:51 oleonard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efiW2K8gASM 13:51 drojf i _think_ i know where they are 13:51 LibraryClaire you might want more than just black ice for those though 13:50 drojf i want ice. so i can use the spikes i bought years ago and then never needed 13:49 LibraryClaire walking is tough 13:48 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:48 Joubu @later tell rangi ok forget that, I was using a very old dump 13:48 oleonard That's what we had this morning. So I couldn't run to my car. I had to walk. 13:47 LibraryClaire rain is bad. Rain freezes into ice. Ice makes running impossible 13:46 drojf but rain later 13:46 drojf snowstorm 13:45 LibraryClaire no snow :'( 13:45 huginn` LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Jungerhalde, Konstanz, Germany is 2.9°C (2:37 PM CET on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). 13:45 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 13:43 drojf more snow 13:43 Joubu oleonard: yep I think I found a very old dump :-/ 13:42 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Aprikosensteig, Berlin, Germany is -1.1°C (2:38 PM CET on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). 13:42 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 13:41 oleonard Joubu: The help link in Bugzilla links to 5.0 docs, FWIW 13:37 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:37 Joubu @later tell rangi Are we still using bz version 3? 13:19 * oleonard misses the old webmonster list 13:19 oleonard That's why the mailing list should bounce all messages which have HTML formatting, attachments, entire quoted threads, and signatures longer than 7 lines long. 13:18 kidclamp ah, I pasted in the correct link over the old one, so the text is right but the link is wrong 13:04 magnuse rangi++ 13:03 cait yep bad link 13:01 oleonard Lots of closed bugs 13:01 oleonard rangi++ 12:57 oleonard No, bad link. 12:57 oleonard Oh, dev meeting in 3 minutes? 12:43 LibraryClaire yay wahanui 12:43 wahanui hi oleopard 12:43 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 12:43 oleonard Hi all 12:42 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17234: Test the column and constraint non-existence 12:42 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17234: Two new functions lack tests 12:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17234 major, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Pushed to Master , ALTER IGNORE TABLE is invalid in mysql 5.7. This breaks updatedatabase.pl 12:42 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17234: Move new subroutines to C4::Installer 12:42 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17234: Add constraint_exists and column_exists to updatedatabase.pl 12:42 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17234: Follow up to handle new problems 12:42 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17234 - updatedatabase.pl's ALTER IGNORE break with mysql 5.7.4+ 12:42 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #83: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/83/ 12:39 tcohen umy bein 12:39 marcelr moc esta 12:39 marcelr halo tohcen 12:38 tcohen hi #kojha 12:38 marcelr eythian: 12:38 marcelr hi ethyian tcohen LibraryClaire 12:38 LibraryClaire hola tcohen 12:38 LibraryClaire hi marcelr 12:36 tcohen morning 12:33 eythian no wait 12:33 eythian hi marcelopard. 12:33 marcelr hi #koha 10:55 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Aprikosensteig, Berlin, Germany is -4.2°C (11:48 AM CET on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). 10:55 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 10:52 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17234: Test the column and constraint non-existence <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=435b7badc22d9c05cb16623d6f423206992ec476> / Bug 17234: Two new functions lack tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8938631f38bb22456424219d3c3453493df6f848> / Bug 17234: Move new subroutines to C4::Installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff; 10:02 drojf :D 10:02 LibraryClaire I definitely waggle dance around the place 10:01 drojf we should do it in marseille to fix dinner plans 10:01 drojf the waggle dance is to communicate in what direction to find food, btw. very useful 10:00 drojf ah. ok. that's funny 10:00 cait drojf: in my emai program date looked right in text, but clicking the url led to the wrong time/date 10:00 drojf it's amazing that i really learned something in biology class a million years ago that i still remember 09:59 drojf oh it's waggle dance in english :D 09:59 drojf https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanzsprache#/media/File:Bee_waggle_dance.png 09:59 cait maybe not that close 09:58 * cait googles 09:58 cait um 09:58 drojf and doing the schwänzeltanz 09:58 cait close 09:58 drojf yes 09:58 cait everyone running around and buzzing? 09:58 drojf i imagine bsz like a beehive 09:58 cait if you receive text email it's probably right 09:58 cait drojf: I dunno :) 09:57 cait and hi drojf 09:57 cait now LibraryClaire has run away :) 09:55 LibraryClaire she has run away 09:55 drojf and hi cait 09:54 drojf how does the link look right if the URL is wroing? 09:46 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 09:46 cait @later tell kidclamp link in the dev meeting mail looks right, but has wrong URL 09:46 cait @later tell kidclamp link in the dev meeting mail looks right, but has wrong URL 09:46 cait hm 09:46 * cait waves 09:46 * magnuse waves at cait 09:45 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 09:45 cait @later tell kidclamp_away link in the dev meeting mail looks right, but has wrong URL 09:41 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Geuzenbuurt Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 8.4°C (10:41 AM CET on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 09:41 eythian @wunder jordaan,ams 09:41 eythian so this building whistles in the wind. It's kinda annoying. 08:37 magnuse LibraryClaire: mir gehts gut! 08:36 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:36 Joubu @later tell khall Hi! Is there anything blocking the push of 17234? I think we really need the 2 subs to check if a constraint or column exist. I can move them to a separate bug report if you prefer. 08:26 LibraryClaire josef_moravec no problem :) 08:25 josef_moravec LibraryClaire: thanks for sign-off oleonards followup for 16239 ;) 08:23 josef_moravec hi LibraryClaire 08:23 LibraryClaire hi josef_moravec 08:23 huginn` josef_moravec: The current temperature in Rájec, Borovnice, Czech Republic is -9.0°C (9:23 AM CET on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 08:23 josef_moravec @wunder Usti nad Orlici 08:23 huginn` liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 0.0°C (10:20 AM EET on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 08:23 liw @wunder helsinki 08:22 josef_moravec morning Koha 08:22 LibraryClaire und dir? 08:22 LibraryClaire gut, danke :) 08:22 magnuse wie geht's? 08:22 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara 08:21 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 28.80 in 975 hPa (Steady). 08:21 LibraryClaire guten morgen magnuse 08:21 magnuse @wunder enbo 08:21 * magnuse waves 07:45 LibraryClaire wahanui is back :) 07:45 wahanui reiveune is working for biblibre 07:45 LibraryClaire hey reiveune 07:44 reiveune hello 07:39 LibraryClaire hi alex_a 07:39 alex_a hello 07:39 fridolin whouu nice 07:39 LibraryClaire fridolin: I'm supposed to be marathon training 07:39 fridolin I'm waiting a bit to go swiming in the sea, I like to do I in the first days of the year 07:38 fridolin wouuu, running, waths this ? ;) 07:37 LibraryClaire This morning it definitely falt warmer 07:37 LibraryClaire I keep going running in the snow 07:37 LibraryClaire fridolin: yes, cold 07:33 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 3.0°C (8:30 AM CET on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 07:33 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:31 fridolin coooooold ? I'm dreaming of a sunny warm day 07:31 fridolin hie LibraryClaire, watsup ? 07:27 LibraryClaire hi fridolin 07:27 fridolin yepp 07:22 LibraryClaire morning #koha 07:22 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Aprikosensteig, Berlin, Germany is -7.6°C (8:18 AM CET on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 07:22 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 07:01 drojf morning #koha 05:16 * dcook wonders which RM is the Kerouac fan.. 05:06 dcook Nothing like lexical comparisons.. 05:02 dcook And I reckon that's why: $pkg->VERSION lt $PERL_DEPS->{$_}->{'min_ver'} 04:58 dcook me thinks that 0.9.12 comes after 0.9.3 04:58 dcook Hmm koha_perl_deps.pl doesn't seem to handle version numbers so well... 03:54 rangi right, home time 02:10 dcook That seems a bit more sane 02:10 huginn` aleisha: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 02:10 aleisha @wunder nzwn 01:55 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Regina, Saskatchewan is -24.0°C (7:00 PM CST on January 10, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -26.0°C. Windchill: -34.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling). 01:55 dcook @wunder yqr 01:54 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Burkeville, Richmond, British Columbia is -0.2°C (5:54 PM PST on January 10, 2017). Conditions: . Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Rising). 01:54 dcook @wunder yvr 01:54 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, Australia is 37.0°C (12:30 PM AEDT on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 01:54 dcook @wunder syd 01:54 dcook A little warm.. 01:53 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, Australia is 37.0°C (12:30 PM AEDT on January 11, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 01:53 dcook @wunder syd