Time Nick Message 05:19 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. 06:05 * magnuse waves 06:40 magnuse kia ora cait 06:40 magnuse @wunder enbo 06:40 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -9.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 04, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 06:40 magnuse brrr 06:40 cait good morning magnuse! 06:40 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:40 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 0.7°C (7:32 AM CET on January 04, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling). 06:41 cait you win... but i still think it's cold 06:41 magnuse i would say you win ;-) 07:42 fridolin hie there 08:15 gaetan_B hello 08:29 cait good morning #koha 08:52 kivilahtio khall_away: I rebased Bug 15253 and deployed the change I proposed. I had to manually rebuild the first and thrid patch because they were quite out of sync vs master. 08:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15253 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, ASSIGNED , Add Koha::Logger based logging for SIP2 08:53 liw @wunder helsinki 08:53 huginn` liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -11.0°C (10:50 AM EET on January 04, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -22.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 10:04 magnuse @wunder enbo 10:04 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -10.0°C (10:50 AM CET on January 04, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 10:04 magnuse @wunder bodø, norway 10:04 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 10:04 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway 10:04 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Olav Trygvasons gate, Bodo, Norway is -9.7°C (11:00 AM CET on January 04, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 11:35 * paul_p is away: Indisponible ou absent / unavailable or AFK 11:36 cait ok 11:39 drojf happy new year anyone 11:39 drojf also, coffee 11:39 drojf or, everyone 11:39 wahanui everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver 11:40 * drojf broke his english 12:28 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams 12:28 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 7.9°C (1:22 PM CET on January 04, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 12:28 * eythian is back in the tropics 12:28 magnuse @wunder enbo 12:28 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -10.0°C (1:20 PM CET on January 04, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 12:29 * magnuse takes the dog for a quick & short walk 12:29 drojf hi eythian and magnuse 12:29 drojf @wunder sxf 12:29 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 4.0°C (1:20 PM CET on January 04, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). 12:41 cait kidclamp++ 12:41 * cait waves at eythian 12:44 eythian hi cait, drojf, magnuse, oleopard 12:44 cait did you have a good trip home? 12:44 oleonard Hi 12:59 wilfrid c 13:09 oleonard So, the help for "Required match checks" under Record matching rules says: "??" 13:09 oleonard Anyone know how required match checks work or what they do? 13:10 oleonard I'd like to try to get a record matching rule that uses ISBN + a portion of the control number 13:11 oleonard Can I do that with two match points? If so, what value do I put for "Search index?" 13:14 magnuse @quote get random 13:14 huginn` magnuse: Error: 'random' is not a valid id. 13:14 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 13:14 magnuse @quote get 13:14 huginn` magnuse: (quote get [<channel>] <id>) -- Gets the quote with id <id> from the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 13:14 magnuse @quote random 13:14 huginn` magnuse: Quote #190: "<jcamins> Hehe. Guillotine: the revolutionary card game you win by getting a head <asaurat> lol <asaurat> I mean mdr" (added by slef at 03:46 PM, February 28, 2012) 13:28 eythian cait: it was pretty uneventful, which I think is good :) 13:31 cait yep, uneventful ist good 13:33 oleonard I'll bet kidclamp knows 13:34 * kidclamp blinks 13:34 kidclamp morning oleopard 13:34 oleonard morning clampants 13:35 oleonard kidclamp: Do you know if it's possible to set up a match point for control number? And if so, what is the search index called? 13:36 kidclamp controlnum I believe 13:36 kidclamp or at least cribbing from another site 13:36 cait Control-number 13:37 kidclamp is it these cait? http://manual.koha-community.org/3.2/en/kohasearchindexes.html 13:37 kidclamp but, you know, a more recetn version 13:37 cait we always match on that for import :) 13:37 cait so yep, totally possible 13:39 cait kidclamp: hm? 13:39 kidclamp does that page give the indexes to use for match points in general 13:39 kidclamp http://manual.koha-community.org/3.22/en/kohasearchindexes.html 13:41 cait I think every index should work 13:41 cait there is nothing special about them to be usable for match points 13:41 cait afaik 13:44 kidclamp I meant in terms of correct names :-) 13:45 oleonard "Control-number" works for me 14:21 oleonard If I set a matchpoint component offset to 0 and length to 3, should it just look at the first three characters when matching? 15:03 tcohen morning 15:04 oleonard Hi tcohen 15:04 tcohen hey oleonard 15:04 wahanui oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! 15:21 archer21 hi, one of your patrons have asked me to set up a koha API so that he can create an android app. He has asked me to install the "New_REST_API". Is this new API stable inough to be used in production? 15:22 archer21 Also can someone share their experience using KOHA APIs? 15:23 oleonard archer21: What would the app do? 15:29 archer21 oleonard: It will display a map of the library and point the user to the location where the book can be found. 15:29 archer21 A live map, using beacons. 15:30 oleonard Interesting. What kind of data would it expect to retrieve from Koha? 15:31 cait archer21: the new api doesn't cover a lot yet I think - it's still work in progress 15:32 archer21 oleonard: search for books. get a list of available books, get their call numbers etc. 15:33 archer21 cait: As a sysadmin, all I want to know is if it is okey to install it on the prodcuction system. 15:33 cait there is nothing to install 15:33 cait if you are using newer versions 15:34 cait but it might not cover what you need yet: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=api/v1/swagger/paths;h=2fae29b07bb54ae1e977ca6f1f977a5fbf6ac052;hb=6b0562eee87e80532d6abb423177c76062be84cc 15:34 cait so for bibliographic data using another api than the restful new one might be more helpful 15:35 archer21 cait: So, how do I start using it? Do I have to enable something? 15:35 oleonard archer21: I'm curious how you're going to go from bibliographic data to physical location 15:46 archer21 oleonard: I am not a person from library science backgorund, my questions might seem silly, please bear with me. So call number is part of item information? 15:47 oleonard archer21: Yes. Call number is typically printed on the spine of the book in order to facilitate locating it on the shelf 15:48 oleonard archer21: It sounds like your app dev needs to provide you with more specifics about what kind of data is required for the project 15:49 archer21 So is there an API that provides call numbers of books? 15:49 cait yes, but ont the 'new api' 15:49 cait you could use SRU 15:50 cait or Z39.50 15:50 cait the new api only supports holds, patrons and cities right now afaiks 15:51 archer21 Thanks, this is all I need. 15:56 tcohen but to me it failed in Configuration 1: 1 1 15:56 tcohen haha 15:56 tcohen ashimema: around? 16:08 ashimema am now 16:08 ashimema ish ;) 16:08 ashimema there's always an ish ;) 16:10 ashimema tcohen? 16:10 wahanui hmmm... tcohen is 122 16:11 ashimema mrenvoize? 16:11 ashimema ashimema? 16:11 wahanui i guess ashimema is on qa now .) 16:11 ashimema lol 16:15 mtompset @seen Joubu 16:15 huginn` mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 day, 3 hours, 31 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <Joubu> like views, and additional conditions on join 16:15 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 16:18 mtompset Greetings, laurence 16:22 mtompset laurence: Are you able to do a sign off? :) 16:28 reiveune bye 16:36 laurence mtompset: not now but tomorrow ... which one ? 18:05 Librarian_at_7G Hi, I"m really hoping someone can help me with Koha... We've messed up our mapping! 18:05 tcohen when did that happen¡? 18:06 Librarian_at_7G maybe a month ago? we had a librarian who didn't know what they were doing and they wanted to make the import process faster by reducing the amount of required feilds 18:06 Librarian_at_7G now we can't import anything at all.. we get an error message 18:08 drojf hi tcohen 18:08 tcohen hi drojf 18:11 Librarian_at_7G my "Koha to MARC mapping" has a field that's blank... i'm assuming that's the problem. but i don't know how to correctly map it.. it's the field "frameworkcode" we have nothing filled in for tag or subfield 18:11 tcohen can you take a screenshot and paste it somewherE? 18:11 tcohen like in https://snag.gy 18:12 tcohen i'm not promising help, but it will be easier 18:14 Librarian_at_7G okay i'm trying... having trouble capturing the image for some reason.. one sec.. 18:14 tcohen what operating system? 18:15 Librarian_at_7G ubuntu 18:15 tcohen then Ctrl+Shift9+Print screen 18:15 tcohen then choose the screen region 18:15 tcohen and ctrl+v on snag.gy 18:15 drojf i only have two shift keys :'( 18:16 tcohen ha 18:16 tcohen Ctrl+Shift+Print screen 18:16 * cait waves 18:18 Librarian_at_7G control, shift, 9, print screen... right? it's not working for me 18:18 tcohen forget the '9' 18:18 tcohen it was a typo :-D 18:18 Dyrcona Meta-Alt-Ctrl-Shift-x-y-z-9 18:19 Librarian_at_7G oohhhh haha sorry.. i'm on a school computer and feeling a little clumsy. yeah control shift printscreen wasn't working. i tried pasting into a doc and wasn't getting anything 18:19 tcohen You don't need to press them at once 18:19 Dyrcona Just Print Screen should work on Ubuntu. 18:19 eythian yes 18:19 eythian just printscreen 18:20 Librarian_at_7G tried that too.. shoot, idk why this isn't working.. just a sec, I can grab someone.. 18:20 * tcohen loves Ctrl+Shift+Print screen 18:20 Dyrcona Then you click on the window you want. 18:21 eythian or install "shutter", that's what I use 18:21 tcohen Shift+Print screen lets you choose the region 18:22 tcohen and Ctrl puts the screenshot on the paste buffer 18:22 Dyrcona I recently added "Screenshot" to my application bar. 18:22 Dyrcona Yeah. 18:23 Librarian_at_7G okay i might need to use one of those.. i've been trying to work on this from home through remote desktop... any chance someone is on here at night?? 18:23 Dyrcona Maybe that's why it seems to not be working. The pick should be in the clipboard. 18:23 Librarian_at_7G oh.. 18:24 Librarian_at_7G nothing 18:24 Dyrcona What version of Ubuntu? 18:24 Dyrcona And what window manager? 18:24 Dyrcona That could be it, too. The window manager might not know Print Screen. 18:25 Librarian_at_7G i really wish i knew.. that's why i'd like to do this in the evening with my husband. he's in software and could give me these answers... 18:25 Librarian_at_7G this is my first time on here.. can i usually find someone? if i try another day with the schooll's software guy? 18:26 Librarian_at_7G btw thank you for talking to me!!! we're pretty desperate at this point 18:27 tcohen make_schema_at sucks 18:27 Dyrcona Oh, remote desktop.... That might be the issue. 18:28 Librarian_at_7G well that's not setup right now.. i was using that a few weeks ago 18:29 Librarian_at_7G i'll sort out the screenshot issue soon... if i jump back in on friday will someone be here? 18:29 Dyrcona Yes, most likely someone will be here. 18:30 Librarian_at_7G oh wait i found it!! 18:30 Librarian_at_7G ok screenshot is on my clipboard 18:31 tcohen https://snag.gy 18:32 Librarian_at_7G https://snag.gy/IKHqNQ.jpg 18:32 Librarian_at_7G i'm assuming that blank field is my issue? 18:38 oleonard Librarian_at_7G: My production system has no tag mapped to frameworkcode either 18:39 Librarian_at_7G oh okay.. i was just guessing that was the problem 18:39 drojf Librarian_at_7G: maybe you broke the standard framework 18:39 oleonard Librarian_at_7G: No idea what was changed? 18:39 tcohen Librarian_at_7G: what about other table mappings? not just biblio 18:39 Librarian_at_7G you should see my framework test.. its a disaster because i think my whole left column should read "OK" yes? 18:40 tcohen Librarian_at_7G: yes 18:41 Librarian_at_7G well THANK YOU again for being willing to help! we're dismissing now so i actually have to leave.. i'll be back on friday afternoon with much more time. hopefully someone can offer some advice then 18:41 Librarian_at_7G if i had our software guy reinstall Koha would everything default back to the proper mapping? 18:42 Librarian_at_7G and would we lose all the books in our library currently? 18:43 oleonard Librarian_at_7G: Since mappings can be edited in the staff client, they must be stored in the database. Therefore a restore of your db to a new installation would restore the broken mappings. 18:43 * cait agrees 18:43 drojf but a restore of the original standard framwork may fix things. if breaking it is the problem 18:43 Librarian_at_7G awesome! would we lose the books currently in our library though? 18:43 cait that's true 18:44 * oleonard was just about to say what drojf said 18:44 drojf no. you would take a backup, the insert the sql into the db for the framework 18:44 drojf and then in the best case it just works 18:44 Librarian_at_7G okay so i have hope.. thank you! 18:44 tcohen Librarian_at_7G: you could even import the default framework we ship with Koha 18:45 cait there is definitely hope 18:45 tcohen someone can export it for you to re-import it 18:45 cait but better not catalog anything until things are fixed 18:46 Librarian_at_7G thank you all so much.. i'll talk to someone about doing that 18:46 drojf if nothing helps, export the records and import them in a new installation. but you will lose all settings and stuff 19:12 rangi eythian: travellers is great, thanks for the recommendation 19:26 oleonard Have you watched The OA rangi? 19:29 rangi I have 19:29 rangi have you? 19:30 oleonard Yeah. 19:31 cait om my 19:31 cait now i have to watch even more things 19:31 rangi heh 19:31 tcohen ! 19:39 tcohen i'll try to join the meeting later, cya #koha 19:39 tcohen picking Manuel! 19:50 eythian rangi: yeah, started watching it on the train back yesterday, finished watching it today. 19:50 rangi nice 19:50 rangi i do love the download feature 19:51 eythian Yep 19:52 rangi i can download a bunch of stuff on the vpn, then as long as my device is not connected to the internet I can watch it, so get around the geoblocking stuff too 19:53 oleonard rangi is a leet haxor 19:53 rangi heh 19:53 Brooke hi 19:53 wahanui hola, Brooke 19:53 eythian Yeah, found that in Germany, if I disconnected from the WiFi I could see the stuff that can't be played there. 19:53 eythian Which is a lot, because Germany. 19:53 rangi yeah, not as much as nz tho 19:54 eythian It's a very different set of stuff, ime 19:54 rangi interesting 19:54 wahanui i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 19:54 Brooke different WIPO zone 19:54 eythian I need to get a VPN thing set up again one of these days. 19:55 eythian Brooke: well, compared to NZ yes, but it's also a moderately different collection compared to NL. 19:55 eythian Market sizes and what's sold where is my guess. 19:55 Brooke it's two pronged 19:56 Brooke if you want to sit through some seriously dull lectures, I can send you info for stuff in the US if you trek through here ;) 19:56 phred_ Hi Brooke 19:56 eythian No, I think I'm OK without :) 19:56 * Brooke hugs phred 19:57 Brooke IP lawyers are good drinkers, though 19:57 phred_ I have a Region 2 DVD heading my way. Now I just have to figure out how to play it in the US. :-) 19:58 eythian phred_: a Linux computer. 19:58 rangi by a dvd player from nz, they arent zoned 19:58 rangi :) 19:58 eythian Or a region 0 player 19:58 cait meeting time i guess :) 19:58 eythian rangi: not sure that's true these days 19:58 phred_ I have a few linux computers hanging around my house... 19:58 oleonard that's my cue to quit. Bye all 19:59 cait #startmeeting General IRC meeting 4 January 2016 19:59 huginn` Meeting started Wed Jan 4 19:59:01 2017 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:59 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:59 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_4_january_2016' 19:59 cait #topic Introductions 19:59 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 19:59 cait please introduce yourself using #info 19:59 rangi #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT, NZ 19:59 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_4_January_2016 today's agenda 19:59 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 19:59 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York 19:59 phred_ #info Fred King, Washington Hospital Center 19:59 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart, France 19:59 NateC #info Nate Curulla, ByWater 20:00 lisettelatah #info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District, Idaho 20:00 bag #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater 20:00 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 20:01 cait waiting a moment longer... 20:01 wizzyrea #info Liz Rea, Catalyst IT 20:02 talljoy #info joy nelson bywater solutions 20:02 cait I knew someone was missing 20:02 drojf #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany 20:03 cait #topic Announcements 20:03 cait any announcements? 20:03 rangi Catalyst academy starts next week 20:03 cait cool 20:03 rangi with project work the week after, please tag/file bugs you think they could work on 20:04 cait #info please tag easy bugs with the keyword Academy as the Catalyst academy starts next week! 20:04 cait if they are like last year, you can tag non-easy too :) 20:05 cait anything else? 20:05 wahanui anything else is just being crap 20:05 cait #topic Update on releases 20:05 cait no khall_away, bag maybe? 20:06 bag no update really 20:06 bag just pushing - there isn’t much of a back log 20:06 bag we’ll get on top of it when we see stuff… 20:06 bag things that we are interested in 20:06 bag ES 2.4 20:07 bag the messages that Joubu has been sending have been great for areas to look at for sign-offs etc 20:07 bag kidclamp_away: just got 2.4 ES working with Koha - so we should see some sort of news from him soon 20:07 bag (he had to leave early today) 20:07 cait #info 17.05 - things are moving along. Interesting things are: ES 2.4, Joubu's emails for sign-offs etc 20:07 bag that’s it cait 20:08 cait #info 16.11 - 16.11.01 was released on December 22nd, we hope packages will be available by end of the week 20:09 Joubu bug 17817 needs QA asap. It seems critical for 16.11. Should be in next 16.11.x 20:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17817 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Repeat this Tag (cloning) not working 20:09 cait trying to be strict - not always easy :) 20:09 cait I will try to always call for string freeze on 15th and release on 22nd 20:09 cait and inform if that won't be possible for some reason 20:10 cait #info bug 17817 needs QA asap - critical for cataloguing 20:10 cait moving on? 20:11 cait #topic KohaCon 20:11 cait is someone around from the Philippines? 20:11 rangi they sent a mail to the list about sponsorship 20:11 rangi afaik nothing else has changed 20:11 cait #info A call for sponsors has been sent to the mailing list 20:12 cait the last item on the minutes was canceled - so we can skip over to set a date for the next meeting 20:12 cait #topic Set date for next meeting 20:12 cait February 1st maybe? 20:13 cait the last one was 14 UTC - would that be ok? 20:13 rangi oh hey 20:13 rangi has there been a CFP yet? 20:13 thd CFP? 20:13 cait i don't remember one 20:14 cait call for papers i think 20:14 thd Someone should remind them to start that process early as they are not here. 20:15 cait is someone volunteering? 20:15 thd I am working on my email system, so I will not volunteer to send private messages for some time. 20:16 cait ok, noone commented on date and time 20:16 cait going to log it *threatens* 20:16 thd rangi: May we volunteer you for CFP message? 20:16 cait #agreed Next meeting will be February 1, 14 UTC 20:16 cait i think it has been mentioned to them at earlier meetings 20:17 rangi nope 20:17 thd rangi: I presume that 14 UTC is too early for you? 20:17 rangi well if i see them on irc i will 20:17 rangi but im not going to be going writing an email or anything 20:18 thd Fair enough. 20:18 cait we are shifting times - as nz is opposite to europe it's hard to be nice to both at the same time 20:19 thd cait: I am trying to distinguish nice from possible. 20:23 bag I think this meeting is done ;) 20:23 cait #endmeeting 20:23 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Jan 4 20:23:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 20:23 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_4_january_2016.2017-01-04-19.59.html 20:23 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_4_january_2016.2017-01-04-19.59.txt 20:23 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_4_january_2016.2017-01-04-19.59.log.html 20:23 cait thx all for attending 20:23 davidnind cait +1 20:23 drojf cait++ 20:24 talljoy cait++ 20:24 thd cait: Sometime next week or so I am going to try to draft a message for the list appealing to people to fill in some gaps in the survey of irc times preferences for time which are a possibility but not favoured which may help a better selection of meeting times. 20:24 Brooke nice busdriving :) 20:24 thd s/time$/times/ 20:24 thd oops 20:25 thd s/time /times / 20:26 drojf good night #koha 20:27 eythian Bye drojf 20:30 cait tcohen: too late :P 20:30 tcohen hi 20:30 tcohen ouch! 20:38 mtompset @seen jobou 20:38 huginn` mtompset: I have not seen jobou. 20:38 mtompset @seen Joubu 20:38 huginn` mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 29 minutes and 11 seconds ago: <Joubu> bug 17817 needs QA asap. It seems critical for 16.11. Should be in next 16.11.x 20:38 tcohen hi mtompset 20:38 Joubu mtompset: hi 20:39 mtompset Greetings, not really here. Just wanted to see if Joubu saw my follow up. :) 20:39 tcohen Boo 20:39 * tcohen was about to send NSO stuff to mtompset 20:39 mtompset ha ha ha, tcohen 20:40 mtompset bug 17846 needs someone else to check my followup. 20:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Koha::get_infos_of 20:40 mtompset I signed off Joubu's portions. 20:41 Joubu mtompset: yes, it's trivial, you can switch it to SO 20:42 mtompset Okay. Done. Now to go pick up my wife from work.