Time Nick Message 19:36 * mtompset begins his chauffeur duty. 19:35 mtompset I did type vagrant plugin install vagrant-vbguest and vagrant-omnibus 19:35 mtompset I'm using whatever is there. 19:25 tcohen but someone needs to do it :-D 19:25 tcohen I'm not against adding the guest additions to debian/jessie64 19:24 tcohen aren't you using the stock debian/jessie64 box? 19:24 mtompset Hmm... I'll remove my guest addition in Virtual Box and see.... 19:23 tcohen hi rangi 19:23 rangi morning 19:23 tcohen doesn't it? 19:23 tcohen I didn't add that, because it requires Guest additions 19:22 tcohen :-D 19:22 tcohen mtompset: did u see my reply? 19:22 mtompset tcohen: Did you see the issue I put on github? 18:30 kchris thanks for the help. 18:30 tcohen awesome :-D 18:30 kchris tcohen: Kohadevbox is up and running with bento/debian-8.4-i386 18:15 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Valle Escondido, Cordoba, Argentina, Córdoba, Argentina is 27.1°C (3:11 PM ART on October 31, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). 18:15 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 18:14 tcohen hi 17:20 rsantellan Hi, one question about a patron been debarred. Should it been seen on the moremember.pl ? 16:26 gaetan_B bye 16:21 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 15.7°C (5:13 PM CET on October 31, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Falling). 16:21 eythian @wunder jordaan amsterdam 15:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17524 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Datepicker on checkout fails when dateformat = iso 15:53 wahanui bug 17524 is, like, an easy signoff if someone wants to beat me to it 15:53 kidclamp bug 17524 15:53 khall what bug number? 15:52 kidclamp khall khall khall 15:52 kidclamp now you have to bug khall to push it 15:48 mtompset Poor ISO dateformat users. 15:48 mtompset It's nice when a simple patch that fixes a problem can get through quickly. :) 15:48 mtompset Sweet. :) 15:48 kidclamp I can 15:47 mtompset Looks like this bug was hot an hour ago. ;) 15:47 huginn mtompset: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 59 minutes and 7 seconds ago: <kidclamp> accidental paste when adding myself to the bug magnuse 15:47 mtompset @seen kidclamp 15:47 mtompset The QA team list from https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_16.11? 15:44 Joubu I cannot, everyone else can 15:44 mtompset So who might QA 17524? :) 15:43 Joubu mtompset: I'm here 15:43 huginn mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 23 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <khall> Joubu: yeah, good idea 15:43 mtompset @seen khall 15:43 * mtompset grins. 15:43 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 hour and 0 seconds ago: <Joubu> magnuse: fixed 15:43 mtompset @seen Joubu 15:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17524 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Datepicker on checkout fails when dateformat = iso 15:41 mtompset bug 17524 is now signed off... what a doozy of a cut-and-paste problem. 15:31 gaetan_B it definitely does, thanks a lot :) 15:31 atheia Yeah that sounds like a decent plan… sorry! 15:30 atheia Hope that clarifies things a bit? 15:30 atheia Any further backends using different tools would need to be developed by those using them. 15:30 atheia We currently only have a British Library backend, which uses its own special British Library API. 15:30 gaetan_B ok thanks, i guess we'll write something from scratch to handle these messages, and try to make it so it can be reused easily 15:29 atheia To be clear, there are two parts to the work: a) the Koha side (providing a unified user interface, storing data in the database, etc), and b) backends which provide the actual functionality for searching endpoints and requesting items. 15:29 gaetan_B (i'm still trying to figure out exactly what it does, but it sounds like i *might* find it useful) 15:28 atheia No I did not. 15:28 gaetan_B did you make any use of yaz-illclient for your module? 15:28 atheia There might be scope for reuse of scope but yeah, I'm afraid this woudl be different indeed :-) 15:28 atheia So as a user you can use the module to search remote endpoints and request an item there, which is then kept track of using the ILLmodule. 15:27 atheia It's approach is very much driven from the local system's perspective. 15:27 gaetan_B i guess this answers my question then :) 15:27 gaetan_B i was wondering if handling them had been a part of your work 15:27 atheia That, certainly at present, falls outside of the ILL module's scope I'm afraid. 15:27 gaetan_B yes 15:27 atheia Right so it sounds like you need to have some feature in Koha that is "listening" for these iso 8459 queries, and to act on those. 15:25 gaetan_B what we'll have to handle here is the standardized iso 8459 response 15:25 gaetan_B so to answer your question neither on A's or B's catalog, but on another system 15:25 gaetan_B then library A gets a message in the iso 8459 form 15:24 gaetan_B if they say "ok i'll send it" 15:24 gaetan_B and see the requests that were made for the items they have 15:24 gaetan_B the use case for me is that there is a national service, with a collective catalog, you can login to this catalog and say "Hi, i am Bob, from library A, and i am requesting this item from library B", the libraries log into a backend of the central catalog 15:23 atheia Where is the user when they make the request for an item from library B; on B's catalogue, or somewhere on A's system? 15:23 gaetan_B do you know whether the British Library's ILL API make any use of iso 8459 or iso 18626? 15:23 atheia Wait — so is this to do with the workflow from for instance the OPAC? 15:22 atheia That's where it's at at the moment, no patches yet, but a github repo, with a branch of up to date work (ill_base). 15:21 gaetan_B not sure about what library B gets 15:21 gaetan_B library A gest a notice saying "that user requested that record" so that library A can create the record and handle the request 15:21 atheia We were re-working that to provide a Koha module and then separate ILL backends. 15:21 gaetan_B a user from library A requests something from library B 15:21 atheia We have a version in production with some customers but it was heavily tied to the British Library's ILL API. 15:21 gaetan_B i am not 100% sure either, it looks like a standard format to send ill requests 15:20 atheia No it has not yet been submitted :-( 15:20 atheia gaetan_B, I'm not 100% on the nature of iso8459 so you may have to explain some more to me about it. 15:20 gaetan_B was this submitted on bugzilla? it looks like it would have been a pretty big patch 15:19 atheia Hi gaetan_B, indeed, I'm probably the better person to talk to about that. 15:17 gaetan_B atheia: you might also know more about this? 15:16 gaetan_B ashimema: from what i see it doesn't integrate with iso8459 (which is what i am trying to achieve) can you confirm? 15:11 gaetan_B ah well, on the github link on the wiki probably... 15:10 gaetan_B ashimema: Hi, could be that i'll have some interest in your work on ill soon (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_Module) is there somewhere i can look at it? 15:08 mtompset http://schema.koha-community.org/16_05/ 15:08 mtompset and 15:08 mtompset http://schema.koha-community.org/master/ 15:07 mtompset also... you can grab it more specifically as of 16.05 thanks to rangi. :) 15:04 rsantellan thank you! 15:03 wahanui schema is probably tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org 15:03 eythian wahanui: schema 15:02 rsantellan I can't find it on the wiki 15:01 rsantellan one little question, where is the online db schema of koha? 14:51 mtompset I'd like a tweak to the vagrant file, which would make it work without cygwin. :) 14:51 magnuse mtompset ^ 14:51 magnuse https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/ 14:50 magnuse github 14:50 mtompset kohadevbox... where are bug reports / suggestions made? 14:50 mtompset magnuse: Quick question. 14:50 * magnuse gotta tear down some shelves and wanders off 14:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17524 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Datepicker on checkout fails when dateformat = iso 14:49 magnuse bug 17524 is an easy signoff if someone wants to beat me to it! 14:49 mtompset tcohen++ # got cygwin'd windows working for kohadevbox. 14:48 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 19 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <tcohen> hola #koha 14:48 mtompset @seen tcohen 14:48 magnuse ah, i'll just obsolete it then :-) 14:48 kidclamp accidental paste when adding myself to the bug magnuse 14:43 magnuse Joubu++ 14:43 Joubu magnuse: fixed 14:41 Joubu yes, 2 min ;) 14:41 magnuse Joubu: any hunches about a quick fix? 14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17524 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Datepicker on checkout fails when dateformat = iso 14:40 magnuse Joubu: bug 17524 14:37 Joubu heh, stupid c/p :-/ 14:37 magnuse will do! 14:36 Joubu magnuse: confirmed, please open a bug report and assign it to me 14:35 magnuse btw, this happened after upgrading to 16.05.05 last night 14:35 magnuse Joubu: yeah, nothing interesting there 14:34 Joubu magnuse: did you check the console? 14:34 cait on current master? 14:34 cait huh 14:33 magnuse it says "Specify due date (YYYY-MM-DD) :", but entering a YYYY-MM-DD date gives a js popup saying "Please enter a valid date (should match yyyy-mm-dd)" 14:32 magnuse clicking in the calendar does nothing 14:32 cait sorry, might have misunderstood then 14:32 magnuse anyone else having problems setting the date in the "Specify due date" box on the checkout screen when dateformat = iso? 14:20 khall Joubu: yeah, good idea 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17494 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Koha generating duplicate self registration tokens 14:19 Joubu khall: I think you will have to provide tests for bug 17494 14:18 StarseekR You guys just lost me :) I have to run to a meeting, will try updating Koha and see what happens, might be back later in the week to check in again. 14:15 Joubu AV LOC with a patron category code using the same AV code as categorycode, or something 14:15 Joubu cait: it's about the AV description which is not picked when something else has the same code 14:14 cait StarseekR: the behaviour looks correct to me I think - it shows the staff description in your pull down - that's correct, have you tried making the 2 values different? 14:13 cait StarseekR: sorry, not sure i understand the problem 14:12 cait hm? 13:50 StarseekR Joubu: Will try, it's a bit tricky how it's run here >.< 13:48 Joubu StarseekR: you can also try to update to the latest version 13:48 StarseekR Joubu: Ok, will do - thanks! 13:47 Joubu StarseekR: sorry I don't find it, try and ping cait later. iirc she opened the bug report 13:40 wahanui maybe is a momentaneous error 13:40 Joubu cait: maybe? 13:40 Joubu StarseekR: that sounds familiar to me, but I do not find the bug report 13:38 StarseekR Joubu: 16.06.00.002 13:36 khall cool, if you can sign it I'll find someone to qa 13:36 Joubu StarseekR: Which version are you using? 13:36 Joubu khall: ok if you prefer, I don't have a strong opinion on it 13:35 StarseekR Joubu: It's the description for the LOC category. 13:35 khall Joubu: would you be ok with my followup going along with your patch? We should also try to catch the issue in code if possible, don't you think? I'll file a followup report for the pk issue 13:34 khall Joubu: the pk was so that either the row was a self reg OR a patron mod to an existing patron, hence the multi-pk 13:34 Joubu StarseekR: Where does come from the "Verdier for...." value? 13:34 Joubu khall: What about pushing my patch first, then open a new bug report to remove the PK? 13:33 Joubu khall: I really don't understand the PK, it does not make sense to me. So yes we could remove it 13:29 tcohen hola #koha 13:28 StarseekR Joubu: So, this is what it looks like in the Administration: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6zIeN3_5Et-X0lpV3FoOThOanc (pardon the Norwegian, I hope it makes sense anyways), and this is how it looks when I try to add an item and choose the shelving location for it: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6zIeN3_5Et-TGxmc2R4QkVuS0U 13:26 StarseekR Joubu: No, when creating the category LOC, I assigned it a description. This description is now popping up instead of the values - wait, I got screenshots. 13:25 khall thanks! 13:24 Joubu khall: I am reading the code :) 13:23 Joubu StarseekR: Do you mean that you can see the description of the authorised value you created, but not the authorised value's code? 13:22 khall Joubu: basically to enforce only one patron modification per patron at a time. I think we could get away with no pk and just UNQIUE on borrowernumber and verfication_token independently, what do you think? 13:21 Joubu khall: why do we have a PK on this table actually? Does it make sense? 13:20 StarseekR (Sorry for wall of text! :D) 13:20 StarseekR Hi! I'm playing with a brand new install of Koha, and have some issues in creating my shelving locations. Looking for some thoughts on what I'm doing wrong: LOC did not exist in Authorized values, so I created it, and added values to it. The dropdown-menu when registering items now lets me choose the description I put into LOC - NOT the values I created. 13:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17494 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Koha generating duplicate self registration tokens 13:15 khall on bug 17494 13:15 khall Joubu: we cannot enforce verification token uniqueness at the db level because it's part of the primary key which doesn't allow for null values 13:13 Joubu That should do the trick 13:13 Joubu Radius_CZ: ^ 13:12 pastebot Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "diff --git a/koha-tmpl/intrane" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/154 11:21 khall I agree with that as well 11:20 Joubu khall: If you want to enforce the uniqueness constraint, IMO it should be done at DB level 11:18 khall Joubu: can you take a look at my followup on 17494 and sign it if you approve? I signed off on your initial patch 10:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17397 - Update Schema Files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6001765ba16c5d2f36847254fc8a278023d52022> 10:30 Joubu I spent the week-end to regenerate them locally it was very painful 10:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17397 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Master , Show name of librarian who created circulation message 10:30 Joubu khall: please update the schema files for bug 17397 09:55 cait :) 09:54 kidclamp no, I think they are the right amount of silly :-) 09:52 cait hope my examples didn't turn out too silly 09:52 cait heh 09:52 kidclamp and we should totally have ice cream at all meeting 09:48 cait :) 09:47 kidclamp indeed 09:47 kidclamp indded 09:47 cait next dev meeting then? 09:46 cait oh 09:46 kidclamp so won't be at the meeting :-( 09:46 kidclamp I then also looked at my calendar and I am travelling on Wednesday 09:46 cait let me know if you miss something and of course you can edit it too :) 09:46 cait cool 09:46 kidclamp I did, that is awesome 09:45 cait kidclamp: did you get my later? :) 09:45 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 13.8°C (10:39 AM CET on October 31, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 09:45 * cait waves 09:45 eythian @wunder jordaan, amsterdam 09:42 kidclamp hi LibraryClaire 09:41 LibraryClaire and hi kidclamp! 09:41 marcelr morning LibraryClaire 09:41 LibraryClaire hi marcelr 09:37 marcelr :) 09:37 kidclamp hi marcelr 09:35 marcelr hi #koha 09:21 Joubu then you finish the rebase and re-apply the whole patch set to bugzilla 09:21 Joubu Radius_CZ: the way to do is: git rebase -i HEAD~X (with X the number of patches), then edit the commit messages with 'reword' instead of 'pick'. 09:14 * magnuse runs off to run some errands 09:13 magnuse thich layer of ice on the car this morning 09:13 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 4.0°C (10:00 AM CET on October 31, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 09:13 magnuse @wunder enbo 09:08 Radius_CZ Joubu: All the atachments are fixed now. Unfortunately I can't remove the URLs, because bugzilla allows me to edit the patches as simple comments only. This is not the desired change, right? 09:03 Radius_CZ Joubu: I probably found the right way directly in bugzilla. Fixing… 08:57 Radius_CZ Oh, I see! So could you please tell me, how to fix the attachments already sent to bugzilla? I'm a bit lost… 08:56 Joubu Since they did not (on your previous patches), git-bz automatically added the url to the bug report (last line, just before the signed-off-by line) 08:55 Joubu the commit msg must start with "Bug XXXXX: " 08:55 Joubu for instance: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=56935 08:54 Joubu Radius_CZ: The last commit msg is ok. But you have not updated the existingones 08:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17492 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, rbit, Needs Signoff , Show warning if patron's age is out of category limits 08:51 Radius_CZ Joubu: I just wanted to ask you, if I did well my last change in bug 17492, because I wasn't able to find what URL to remove you were talking about. 08:49 Radius_CZ Joubu: Hi, just a moment please 08:42 Joubu Radius_CZ: still around? 08:42 wahanui what's up, Joubu 08:42 Joubu Hi 08:30 huginn cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 9.1°C (9:29 AM CET on October 31, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). 08:30 cait @wunder Konstanz 08:30 cait good morning #koha 08:28 AndrewIsh hi LibraryClaire 08:28 LibraryClaire hey gaetan_B, AndrewIsh 08:26 huginn AndrewIsh: The current temperature in Machynlleth, United Kingdom, United Kingdom is 8.7°C (8:12 AM GMT on October 31, 2016). Conditions: . Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa (Steady). 08:26 AndrewIsh @wunder machynlleth 08:26 AndrewIsh g'morn #koha 08:25 gaetan_B hello 08:14 sophie_m hi LibraryClaire 08:13 LibraryClaire hi sophie_m 08:13 sophie_m hello #koha 07:42 drojf "Seegfrörne" :D 07:42 drojf ah ok 07:42 LibraryClaire that was the last time there was ice skating I think 07:42 LibraryClaire no no 07:42 drojf not completely :P 07:41 LibraryClaire 2012 :P 07:41 drojf :D 07:41 drojf 1963 07:41 LibraryClaire sometimes, but it hasn't been cold enough in recent years 07:40 LibraryClaire apparently there are bits you can ice skate on 07:40 drojf does the lake freeze in winter? 07:39 LibraryClaire and because of the lake 07:39 LibraryClaire :D 07:37 drojf südstaaten… 07:35 LibraryClaire i haven't looked, but we are usually warmer 07:31 drojf :/ 07:31 drojf we will have 0 thursday night 07:31 LibraryClaire not quite that cold yet! 07:31 drojf at least it's not ice :) 07:30 LibraryClaire humidity suggests we may be underwater 07:30 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 6.9°C (8:25 AM CET on October 31, 2016). Conditions: . Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). 07:30 LibraryClaire @wunder Konstanz 07:29 drojf eeek 07:29 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on October 31, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Falling). 07:29 drojf @wunder sxf 07:22 LibraryClaire moin drojf 07:21 drojf guten morgen BüchereiKlara :) 07:21 LibraryClaire morning #koha 06:57 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 06:57 drojf @later tell tcohen that was hours after the issn patch was pushed. the control file update is on 17084 06:56 drojf morning #koha 06:29 * magnuse waves