Time  Nick                 Message
05:21 * magnuse            waves
06:08 magnuse              guten morgen, BüchereiKlara!
06:09 magnuse              let's rewrite koha in javascript while cait is away
06:18 LibraryClaire        morning magnuse :)
06:18 LibraryClaire        and #koha
06:18 LibraryClaire        magnuse: finished packing yet? ;)
06:43 magnuse              LibraryClaire: nope
06:43 magnuse              but we still have 6 days left
06:43 magnuse              including a full weekend
06:43 magnuse              we will get there!
06:51 reiveune             hello
06:53 fridolin             hie there
06:53 magnuse              bonjour fridolin & reiveune
06:53 fridolin             bonjour
06:53 wahanui              que tal, fridolin
06:53 reiveune             salut magnuse
07:33 AndrewIsh            g'morn #koha
07:35 magnuse              hiya AndrewIsh
07:36 AndrewIsh            hi magnuse :)
07:51 eythian              @wunder jordaan, amsterdam
07:51 huginn               eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 10.6°C (9:44 AM CEST on October 26, 2016). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
07:58 magnuse              @wunder oslo, norway
07:58 huginn               magnuse: The current temperature in Oslo Airport, Norway is 0.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on October 26, 2016). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:58 magnuse              @wunder boo
07:58 huginn               magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:58 magnuse              @wunder enbo
07:58 huginn               magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on October 26, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
07:58 magnuse              ok, i can live with that
08:18 * andreashm          waves
08:19 andreashm            Humm. I seem to have trouble with git after a failed git fetch yesterday. I get the error: error: Unable to find 7395b536de74725a62c7aa7212f5226d9070b0c2 under http://git.koha-community.org/koha.git Cannot obtain needed object.
08:19 andreashm            Anyone has an idea of how to solve this?
08:26 eythian              what are you doing that causes that error?
08:26 andreashm            I tried some stuff yesterday (after googling the problem) but with no luck. I even tried to re-provision kohadevbox but no luck there either
08:26 andreashm            I try to do a git fetch/pull
08:26 Joubu                andreashm: git remote update; git show 7395b536de74725a62c7aa7212f5226d9070b0c2 ?
08:26 Joubu                I see it
08:26 andreashm            joubu: thanks, I'll check
08:27 * cait               waves
08:27 andreashm            hi cait
08:27 Joubu                first stackoverflow answer says git fsck; git gc
08:27 andreashm            joubu: tried that, didn't work. same problem.
08:28 andreashm            I tried moving the pack.temp file from objects too, didn't work either
08:28 andreashm            sigh...
08:29 eythian              delete the git dir and re-clone it?
08:29 Joubu                Are you able to checkout v16.05.05?
08:29 andreashm            joubu: git remote update gives the same error
08:29 eythian              (this is assuming that it's not a server-side problem.)
08:29 andreashm            eythian: I would think the problem is here. since noone else is reporting it.
08:30 andreashm            I think I might have to delete and reclone... but I ws hoping to avoid that.
08:30 andreashm            git show gives the error "fatal: bad object"
08:32 Joubu                andreashm: I got weird git error (don't remember which one exactly...) last month and I solved it with: rm .git/gc.log; git prune; git gc
08:33 andreashm            joubu: ok, thanks. I'll try that!
08:34 andreashm            humm, no suck file/dir for .git/gc.log
08:34 andreashm            such =)
08:37 andreashm            anyways, guess I'll just try to delete .git and re-clone.
08:39 andreashm            deleted - now re-cloning. Thanks for the help joubu and eythian, anyways!
09:41 lds                  hello
10:16 * andreashm          waves
10:50 * cait               waves
10:58 * magnuse            waves
11:02 * LibraryClaire      waves
11:06 * magnuse            gets seasick
11:30 cait                 khall: around?
11:30 khall                cait: what's up?
11:31 cait                 i am adding another follow-up to article request
11:31 khall                cool
11:32 khall                cait: afk, bbiab!
11:32 cait                 khall: just check it please :)
11:32 cait                 should be there in 5 mins
11:32 khall                will do!
11:43 cait                 khall: done!
11:45 magnuse              \o/ cait++ khall++
11:45 cait                 ok, time to vacation for a bit :) bbl
11:53 oleonard             Hi all
12:01 sophie_m             hello #koha
12:05 sophie_m             Is https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17470 a bug or the intended behaviour ?
12:05 huginn               04Bug 17470: normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , overdue_notices.pl produces X emails with the SAME list of ALL overdue items if a patron has overdue items from X branches
12:07 oleonard             That sounds like a bug to me sophie_m. We've been on 3.22.x for a couple of months now and I haven't heard of it happening.
12:08 sophie_m             but do you proceed with -library parameter for overdues oleonard ?
12:08 oleonard             Ah, sorry, no.
12:09 khall                cait++!
12:15 Joubu                sophie_m: I don't think it's the expected behavior, but...
12:15 Joubu                looking at the pod, it says "select overdues for one specific library" for the -library option
12:15 Joubu                but there is nothing in the code to do that
12:15 Joubu                I guess it has never been implemented
12:17 sophie_m             Joubu, oleonard : the question is when we trigger a notification for overdue, we list all the overdues of a patron (not only the one corresponding of the delay ), should this be different for library ?
12:18 Joubu                no idea, I am not a librarian :)
12:18 sophie_m             where are the librarian ? :)
12:19 oleonard             It doesn't make sense to me that it would generate separate notices for each library. That sounds wrong.
12:20 sophie_m             why oleonard ? Some library with multiple branches want that each branch takes car of its own notifications.
12:21 oleonard             My opinion on this issue only reflects my library's needs, which are probably irrelevant since we don't use the library flag
12:21 oleonard             ...but you asked for opinions :)
12:22 oleonard             @quote get 123
12:22 wahanui              http://xkcd.com/1172/
12:22 huginn               oleonard: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
12:25 sophie_m             oleonard: mayby I misunderstand, but the opportunity to generate separate notices for each library is already in use in koha (and some of our customuers are using it). The pb is the list of late items to display in it.
12:30 rsantellan           good morning #koha
12:33 huginn               New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14610 - DBRev 16.06.00.037 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33ff59173151dae282a3c787742128991a656290> / Bug 14610: Follow-up 2 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d64de2bd0d4807700993727f3164fac1656c95b8> / Bug 14610 - Follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ae9f783534e7b0410869aafcb25f0c9dd6b2fa6> / Bug 14610 - Update Sch
12:53 Joubu                Nobody's interested in dev meetings? Still waiting for votes: https://framadate.org/3dAEB8zqQLzzTptD
12:56 oleonard             Oops, didn't go in and vote after clarifying the time zone question!
12:56 * oleonard           is interested!
12:57 * drojf              voted
12:57 drojf                sorry
12:58 Joubu                I will certainly send a reminder in a few days on koha-devel
12:58 drojf                Joubu++
12:59 drojf                daylight saving makes the time zone stuff even worse
12:59 Joubu                framadate++ this tool is much more better than doodle :)
13:01 drojf                Joubu: what is better about it?
13:01 oleonard             free_software++
13:02 Joubu                drojf: first it's a free software, then it seems you cannot do what I did with doodle
13:03 Joubu                you can only select a date, not different values of "things"
13:03 Joubu                do you prefer blue, green or yellow?
13:03 Joubu                doodle seems only made to schedule events
13:04 Joubu                but I may be wrong
13:04 Joubu                and IMO the interface is much clearer
13:17 * LibraryClaire_away waves
13:26 Joubu                see bug 17500 if you are interested in ES
13:26 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons
14:14 * andreashm          waves
14:14 * cait               waves
14:14 cait                 we will make magnuse seasick again
14:15 andreashm            yay
14:15 andreashm            =)
14:16 andreashm            my troubles with kohadevbox continues. I ended up deleting the whole box, and tried to reinstall. But now I have gotten into trouble with apache during the install process. I get this: Error executing /usr/sbin/apache2ctl: AH00534: apache2: Configuration error: No MPM loaded.
14:17 andreashm            Anyone got any idea of how to solve? magnuse?
14:21 cait                 hm did you 'vagrant destroy' and 'vagrant up' again?
14:21 Joubu                try vagrant up --provision
14:21 Joubu                or vagrant ssh, then install the missing package
14:30 CrispyBran           Good morning.
14:30 wahanui              the only good morning is a dead one
14:30 CrispyBran           that's a bit morbid.
14:30 CrispyBran           Anyone know how to reach nengard via e-mail?
14:30 andreashm            cait: tried that. no luck.
14:31 andreashm            joubu: tried --provision as well. I can ssh into vagrant, but not much seems to work there.
14:58 cait                 andreashm: did you try updating your kohadevbox repository? maybe it's older
15:30 cait                 jajm: around by chance?
15:38 jajm                 cait, yes, but not for long :)
15:38 andreashm            cait: the problem isn't with the repo per se, I can't vagrant up since the apache error aborts it.
15:39 cait                 jajm: plying with the circ wizard
15:39 cait                 i am still failing to do an hourly report
15:39 cait                 bug 7679
15:39 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7679 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Statistics wizard: circulation (new filters)
15:39 cait                 andreashm: was wondering about the kohadevbox repo
15:40 cait                 jajm: so say i choose period and by hour
15:40 cait                 type checout
15:41 cait                 i only see a total, not the hours
15:44 jajm                 cait, i have a weird error when trying to use the wizard: "Template process failed: undef error - The method selected is not covered by tests! at /home/koha/koha/C4/Templates.pm line 121"
15:44 cait                 yes
15:44 cait                 apply 17495 on top or before
15:44 cait                 i have noted it as new dependency and PQA on it a few minutes ago
15:44 cait                 no conflicts - no matter in which sequence you apply them
15:44 jajm                 ah thanks
15:46 jajm                 cait, i see this in logfile : "DBD::mysql::st execute failed: COLLATION 'utf8_bin' is not valid for CHARACTER SET 'latin1'" do you have the same ?
15:47 cait                 hm let me check
15:47 cait                 but do yout hink it's related?
15:48 cait                 [off] http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/pic_002.jpg my search
15:48 cait                 i have removed the limit on the libraries and just picked by hour, period, and patron library
15:49 cait                 [off] http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/pic_003.jpg
15:49 cait                 that's the result
15:49 cait                 i have at least 2 issues from today and more older ones
15:50 cait                 jajm:
15:50 cait                 issues_stats.pl: DBD::mysql::st fetchrow failed: fetch() without execute() [for Statement "SELECT distinctrow extract(hour from datetime) FROM statistics  LEFT JOIN borrowers ON (statistics.borrowernumber = borrowers.borrowernumber)  WHERE datetime is not null AND datetime != ''  AND type ='issue'  group by extract(hour from datetime) collate utf8_bin order by extract(hour from datetime) "] at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/reports/issues_stats.pl line 355., referer: http
15:51 jajm                 cait, you should have another DBD error just before that
15:51 cait                 eyp
15:51 cait                 issues_stats.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: COLLATION 'utf8_bin' is not valid for CHARACTER SET 'latin1' [for Statement "SELECT distinctrow extract(hour from datetime) FROM statistics  LEFT JOIN borrowers ON (statistics.borrowernumber = borrowers.borrowernumber)  WHERE datetime is not null AND datetime != ''  AND type ='issue'  group by extract(hour from datetime) collate utf8_bin order by extract(hour from datetime) "] at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/reports/issues
15:52 jajm                 ok... maybe mysql doesn't like the 'extract() collate' stuff
15:52 cait                 it works without the ocllate
15:52 cait                 i just tested in workbench
15:53 cait                 GROUP BY HOUR(datetime)
15:53 cait                 ORDER BY EXTRACT(HOUR FROM datetime)
15:53 cait                 hm ok, i changed a bit more
15:53 cait                 GROUP BY EXTRACT(HOUR FROM datetime)
15:53 cait                 ORDER BY EXTRACT(HOUR FROM datetime) works too
15:55 cait                 it appears to be the only script in koha that uses collate?
15:55 jajm                 collate without extract() seems to work too
15:55 cait                 what is the collate for?
15:56 cait                 it doesn't seem to be used anywhere else
15:56 jajm                 it's because the default collation is case-insensitive and there were cases where we wanted to have case-sensitive comparisons (but i don't remember why)
15:56 cait                 hm i have read the comments
15:57 cait                 i think i wouldn#t go to lengths to achieve that
15:57 cait                 it appears a data problem
15:57 cait                 people should fix their data
15:59 cait                 it works if i remove all the collate statements
15:59 oleonard             Bye #koha
16:00 cait                 would you be ok with that solution?
16:03 jajm                 cait, I don't like the 'collate' stuff, but I added it for a reason (which i don't remember :)) i'll have to think about it...
16:07 jajm                 cait, but we can apply this solution now, and i'll open a new bug if i remember the reason
16:11 cait                 jajm: sounds good for me :)
16:12 cait                 i will write anothr follow-up
16:12 jajm                 cait, thanks
16:12 cait                 the script is... not the nicest part of koha
16:12 jajm                 i have to go
16:12 cait                 i am sure there are more bugs hiding
16:12 cait                 have a nice evening :)
16:12 jajm                 you too :)
16:12 jajm                 bye
17:00 bag                  @seen tcohen
17:00 huginn               bag: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 day, 3 hours, 2 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <tcohen> the exceptionname should be MethodNotFound
18:50 rangi                morning
18:51 rangi                heh exactly what I new would happen with the voting happened
18:52 rangi                and that is why we always used to rotate them
19:15 CrispyBran           https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17506
19:15 huginn               04Bug 17506: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Offline circ needs to be logged
19:18 CrispyBran           https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17507
19:18 huginn               04Bug 17507: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Preference to limit how old an offline circ file can be when uploaded
21:00 CrispyBran           Cool!  I didn't know I could view everyone's web cams in here!
23:47 wizzyrea             hi
23:50 tcohen               hi
23:51 rangi                hi tcohen
23:51 tcohen               hey rangi
23:52 * tcohen             loves 2020 idea
23:53 rangi                :)
23:57 tcohen               night everyone, just showed to say hi :-D