Time  Nick          Message
23:34 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 12.3°C (1:23 AM CEST on October 01, 2016). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
23:34 eythian       @wunder ams
22:04 wahanui       privet, tcohen
22:04 tcohen        hi
21:09 drojf         done
21:07 drojf         uploading package for 3.22.11
20:34 mveron        Good night #koha
20:30 drojf         brr
20:30 huginn        drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 13.0°C (10:20 PM CEST on September 30, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
20:30 drojf         @wunder berlin, germany
19:42 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17386 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Add opac notes for patron to self checkout screen
19:42 * mveron      missed OPAC notes on SCO screen, so he added them... Bug 17386
19:40 huginn        mveron: The current temperature in Holderweg, Binningen, Switzerland is 17.2°C (9:31 PM CEST on September 30, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
19:40 mveron        @wunder Allschwil
19:40 * mveron      waves
19:30 drojf         evening
18:56 * kidclamp    waves
18:48 LibraryClaire evening #koha
17:19 cait          bye all!
17:05 cait          ah,... that's why!
17:05 talljoy       it is Friday!
17:05 cait          talljoy: sorry, my brain is not working today
17:04 huginn        talljoy: downloading the Perl source
17:04 talljoy       huginn tells me it was about a bibframe presentation
17:04 cait          talljoy: huh? sorry, i think i forgot what i asked?
16:58 * mveron      gos to make dinner. Öpfelwäie (Apfelwähe): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4he
16:54 drojf         awesome_jar++
16:54 drojf         mveron++
16:53 wahanui       That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, drojf
16:53 drojf         mveron: awesome!
16:53 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17384 major, P1 - high, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Categories do not display in patron editing form if they have only one category assigned
16:53 mveron        drojf: I found the solution for Bug 17384.
16:53 drojf         indeed
16:52 drojf         talljoy++
16:52 * talljoy     should really talk more in #koha
16:51 talljoy       cait helped?
16:51 talljoy       ah  huginn told me.  did you find it?
16:51 talljoy       oleonard++
16:51 talljoy       what'd i do?
16:51 talljoy       :-D
16:51 talljoy       aw shucks.
16:51 oleonard      talljoy++ too
16:50 mveron        yes, oleonard++
16:37 cait          oleonard++
16:36 drojf         oleonard++
16:10 reiveune      bye
15:07 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17384 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Staff categories no longer visible in patron editing form
15:07 mveron        drojf: I filed Bug 17384
14:54 Radius_CZ     yes, yes, I understand the point. Thanks for the suggestion.
14:53 dani          just export them and make sure you have the 999c in that export and import matching on that (make sure you have that matching rule set up)
14:53 Radius_CZ     dani: good idea, thanks!
14:51 mveron        drojf:It seems to be related to members/memberentry.pl line 252, Koha::Patron::Categories->search_limited  . The sub restricts search to current library (Koha/Patron/Categories.pm line 40)
14:51 dani          you could overlay in batch import with corrections using Marc Templates
14:49 Radius_CZ     Hi, may I ask somebody for an advice how to update about 60.000 of biblio records at a time? I know, there's Batch record modification tool in conjunction with Modification templates, but I feel it's for smaller batches. Should I use mysql's UpdateXml and then koha-rebuild-zebra? Is this the right approach for so huge update? I need to fill 044$a with some default values.
14:39 mveron        Yes. that's it.
14:39 drojf         but cant choose in patron account
14:38 drojf         i have the category in administration
14:38 * mveron      feels juvenile with 61
14:38 mveron        I mean: With my account :-)
14:38 mveron        Yes. It's the same with me.
14:37 drojf         so i have the same problem
14:37 drojf         in master
14:37 drojf         mveron: my staff account is now juvenile
14:37 drojf         ha
14:34 drojf         but yours is probably just a bug in master then
14:33 drojf         blamed a glitch in the mysql universe
14:33 drojf         i had an installation where things where missing once. i dont know if dev or stable. i had to install again, never found out what happened
14:32 drojf         i did not try that
14:32 drojf         ok
14:32 drojf         ah
14:32 drojf         what os are you on?
14:32 mveron        drojf: Thanks for digging. It happens here on current master.
14:31 drojf         and i see the staff category
14:30 drojf         mveron: i would not know how to reproduce the problem. i just tried a 16.05.03 and opening the editing page for a staff user is no problem
14:28 dani          strange
14:26 mveron        dani: No, category has  "No limitation" (Branches:  All branches)
14:25 dani          mveron you don't have a branch limit on the categorycode do you and are logged into another branch?
14:17 cait          odd
14:14 mveron        drojf:Does editing an existing staff member work at your site? - Do you see staff categories in the drop down (Section Library management)? - I have only category types Child, Adult, Professional and Organization, but no Staff
13:57 drojf         mveron: check the archive, it was just today or yesterday i think
13:57 cait          hs someone asked that yet?
13:56 cait          my guess would be wrong mysql version actually
13:56 mveron        drojf: It seems that I missed it.
13:56 wahanui       i heard right, cait was looking in the rong play anyway
13:56 dani          right, cait
13:56 dani          agh, bye Radius_CZ
13:56 drojf         there was a question about patron types
13:56 cait          bye Radius_CZ
13:56 drojf         mveron: the same as on the ml?
13:56 mveron        drojf: I had not to much time...
13:56 Radius_CZ     dani, cait, CZ is in the heart of Europe, Czech Republic. Thank you both for reactions, I will surely return later. Going off for now.
13:56 cait          it might be that they kept it from showing up because batch editing for the normal use case makes no sense
13:56 drojf         nice to see you :)
13:56 mveron        I have troubles when editing / creating staff members, categoies of type Staff do not show up in form
13:56 drojf         mveron: i just saw today that you have not been here for five weeks
13:55 cait          out of ideas, sorry :(
13:55 dani          no that didn't work
13:55 mveron        Hi cait and drojf :-)
13:55 drojf         hi mveron :)
13:54 cait          hi mveron!
13:54 mveron        Hi #koha
13:54 cait          but i'd try that next
13:54 cait          stocknumber here is unique - it could be that it's not supposed to show
13:54 cait          to see if that makes a difference
13:53 dani          no
13:53 cait          maybe try to add the stocknumer to one of the items
13:53 cait          is it showing now?
13:52 dani          it is default framework
13:52 dani          a library is using the stocknumber field in a non-standard way, but they want to be able to batch edit that field, but ... it doesn't show up in batch mod of items
13:50 dani          back in a sec
13:50 dani          going to check if that is the default framework adjusted, I think it is.
13:49 cait          i am nto completely sure tbh
13:49 cait          or maybe the default framework
13:49 cait          that's how i remember it
13:49 cait          i think it reacts to the fields in the items to be bacth edited somehow
13:49 cait          hmm
13:49 dani          is the batch item modification tool dynamic or static? It's not like a individual item editor that can be changed with framework adjustements, right?
13:48 cait          sure
13:48 dani          I have a question you might be able to answer, I think it's quick
13:48 dani          Oh, cait, you are here! Hello
13:47 cait          hi Radius_CZ
13:47 dani          morning Radius_CZ  ... where is CZ?
13:47 Radius_CZ     good afternoon from CZ :-), just testing Adium as IRC client for the first time
13:45 dani          good morning, Koha community
13:45 wahanui       the only good morning is a dead one
13:45 dani          good morning
13:19 eythian       http://www.nltimes.nl/2016/09/30/van-gogh-paintings-recovered-14-years-stolen/ <-- I presume they couldn't sell it because they couldn't pronounce "Scheveningen", which is a ridiculous word.
13:19 rsantellan    good morning #koha
13:17 LibraryClaire sounds like a legit translation to me :D
13:17 eythian       (perhaps not helped by the fact it actually says "oerzeezout", which I like to translate literally as "primordial sea salt", but I suspect means something slightly different.)
13:16 LibraryClaire figured ;)
13:16 eythian       (being salt, ofc.)
13:15 LibraryClaire :D
13:15 eythian       heh, when my parents were here, my father picked up a jar of something to put in his coffee. Turns out reading "zout" is fine for me these days, but not necessarily for other people.
13:15 cait          heh
13:14 LibraryClaire eythian: I speak the moon language, but still had no idea. Took me like 15mins to choose which salt to buy...
13:13 eythian       (doubly so when they're in a weird moon language too.)
13:13 cait          maybe even evening
13:13 cait          i think he is kind of a late afternoon for us
13:13 drojf         i should probably know how our time zones work by now
13:13 cait          he is probably scared
13:13 cait          heh not yet
13:13 eythian       LibraryClaire: I struggle with new supermarkets in cities I've lived in for years, supermarkets in foreign countries are a whole nother level of challenge.
13:12 drojf         hi cait. heard from bag? ^^
13:12 cait          hi drojf
13:12 cait          yay :)
13:11 drojf         hi again
13:09 LibraryClaire no need to ration what I brought with me now ^^
13:08 LibraryClaire i also found Yorkshire tea :D
13:08 LibraryClaire i found some yes
13:07 cait          LibraryClaire: m. swears there should be like 4 different sorts
13:07 cait          LibraryClaire: did you find bacon?
13:01 LibraryClaire I just spent an hour getting lost in a supermarket
13:00 LibraryClaire hah
13:00 eythian       or should I call you ServiceProviderClaire now?
13:00 LibraryClaire hi eythian :)
13:00 eythian       hi LibraryClaire
12:58 kidclamp      :-)
12:56 LibraryClaire afternoon #koha
12:47 cait          i know nothing about the unimarc XSLT files, they might work differently or most likely do
12:47 cait          sorry
12:47 cait          akawa: oops
11:52 akawa         im using unimarc
11:51 cait          hm ok so that is a customization
11:50 akawa         the 152 field hold the authority type that I defind in koha.
11:50 akawa         oops sorry, not the 152. only the order
11:49 huginn        cait: unknown tag 152
11:49 cait          @marc 152
11:49 cait          152?
11:49 akawa         cait: yes, and the only difference is the order and the 152 field.
11:48 cait          oh
11:48 cait          akawa: hm sequence shouldnot matter in this case - have you taken a look at the plain marc view before editing the record? from the opac for example?
11:48 akawa         is*
11:47 cait          not for all fields, some are hardcoded
11:47 akawa         oleonard: Yeah, im trying to modify the xslt cause a have a really strange problem. When viewing a record, at "Subject - Topical Name" it saws the authid and not the text. If i go at authority -> edit and just save the authority the problem i solved! thank you from your answer!
11:47 cait          we recently had that case for a library with corporate authors
11:47 cait          it will display as catalgoued
11:47 cait          the xslt got a bit more flexible in some cases
11:47 cait          hm i thin it does matternow
11:44 oleonard      akawa: The normal view in the OPAC is usually defined by an XSLT stylesheet, unless you have XSLT turned off for some reason.
11:44 oleonard      akawa: The normal view in the OPAC is not affected by the order of MARC fields in the record
11:42 akawa         Is order or marc fields (of record) matters in opac normal view?
11:37 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:37 Joubu         @later tell kidclamp: add/edit/delete fields. Make sure only the mappings for your marcflavour are updated. That's all
11:18 cait          my brain doesn't get it right now
11:18 cait          Joubu: sorry, phone calls - i will try to look later when i go through the bug ermail
11:01 kidclamp      Joubu: what needs to be tested for 14899? I can add fields to an index, not sure what else to try
10:26 * ashimema    would love to see some rules applied throughout.. but they would kill lots of already in use reports and things along with requiring extensive coding
10:26 * ashimema    is horrified every time I dig into the koha schema ;)
10:24 Joubu         ;)
10:24 Joubu         what about biblioitems.biblioitemsbiblioitemnumber?
10:20 fridolin      item inside column name
10:20 fridolin      hugly correction but its like items.itemcallnumber
10:20 fridolin      one could rename items.renewals into items.itemrenewals
10:19 fridolin      yep hugly bug, it may be critical with DBIx::Shema
10:09 Joubu         or I missed something
10:09 Joubu         but this parameter is never passed from the Koha code
10:09 Joubu         which will display a table with the wrong number of renewals
10:09 Joubu         it seems that catalogue/issuehistory.pl is designed to a parameter 'itemnumber'
10:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6271 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Failed QA , GetItemIssue(s) : renewals in both items and issues tables
10:08 Joubu         cait: see bug 6271 comment 10
09:59 cait          for checkouts... or did you mean changes to the item?
09:59 cait          but i think the other tab with the history is better - you can then search for the barcode and it's easier to see
09:58 cait          Joubu: go to detail page - items tab - look there
09:58 cait          well kind of
09:58 cait          Joubu: yep
09:48 * Tylathos    waves
09:46 Joubu         too many changes for a backport
09:46 Joubu         fredericd: I would not have pushed 16519
09:23 huginn        eythian: The operation succeeded.
09:23 eythian       @later tell bag I don't mind if you ping me or not, I have nothing to contribute.
09:15 Joubu         cait: around?
09:14 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:14 Joubu         @later tell bag hi! see you soon ;)
09:14 Joubu         Is there a way to see the issue history for a given item?
09:13 drojf         heh
09:13 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
09:13 cait          @later tell bag me too :P
09:11 huginn        drojf: The operation succeeded.
09:11 drojf         @later tell bag ping me when you are around
07:47 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:47 Joubu         @later tell rangi I have already submitted a patch on bug 17372. eythian confirmed me that it should have been moved under the same namespace
07:32 wahanui       bonjour, gaetan_B
07:32 gaetan_B      hello
07:31 schnydszc     so far, 94 thanks a lot
07:29 schnydszc     oh well, that's what you get if you go from one task to another task :P
07:29 schnydszc     oops sorry it was
07:28 schnydszc     thanks for this. why this not showing when Koha translations is searched :P
07:13 eythian       Indeed :)
07:13 * dcook       waves and heads off for pizza
07:13 dcook         Good timing, eythian
07:12 wahanui       i think translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/
07:12 eythian       wahanui: translations
07:12 dcook         http://translate.koha-community.org/
07:09 schnydszc     just need the numbers for a proposal. thanks!
07:08 schnydszc     Hi! anyone privy here of how many languages is the Koha ILS already translated into?
06:58 reiveune      hello
03:39 dcook         If something seems like magic, you're probably looking in the wrong place...
03:38 dcook         An example of where I'm using a foreign key to fetch a different object and I didn't realize it until now >_>
03:38 dcook         lolz
03:38 dcook         Oh wait... no it's not
03:38 dcook         99% of the row is correct, but the timestamp is off...
03:38 dcook         DBIX::Class is returning different data than what I'm seeing in the database...
03:38 wahanui       interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad
03:38 dcook         Interesting...
02:55 dcook         I still think it would make more sense just to do "make; make upgrade;" but..
02:55 huginn        04Bug 14167: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl
02:54 dcook         I've been wondering how one tests changes to koha-conf.xml or an external configuration file: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14167#c36
02:13 dcook         hehe
02:13 wizzyrea      just can't.
02:13 dcook         wizzyrea: Probably same as cygwin I guess
00:54 kidclamp      hah
00:37 wizzyrea      don't forget your c:\ herp derp.
00:36 wizzyrea      how does that even work with their backwards path notation. Just no.
00:36 wizzyrea      plus, I feel dirty thinking about bash on windows
00:36 wizzyrea      that's nice, I can't get them to install.