Time Nick Message 22:45 rocio back 21:59 drojf night even 21:59 drojf good nihgt #koha 21:43 mkuhn goodnight 21:42 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back. 21:42 cait night all 21:41 cait ! 21:41 cait it's late 21:41 cait thx for coming 21:41 Joubu (I am very sorry but the disconnections are aweful) 21:41 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/development_irc_meeting_28_september_2016.2016-09-28-21.01.log.html 21:41 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/development_irc_meeting_28_september_2016.2016-09-28-21.01.txt 21:41 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/development_irc_meeting_28_september_2016.2016-09-28-21.01.html 21:41 huginn Meeting ended Wed Sep 28 21:41:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 21:41 cait #endmeeting 21:41 cait we need to end here 21:41 cait i am falling asleep :) 21:41 cait #agreed next meeting will be on 19 October, 10 utc 21:40 cait rangi proposed a topic, so that would give him a chance to talk about it 21:40 cait but can we go for 19th 10 utc for now? 21:40 cait maybe we need to have topic meetings 21:40 drojf i'll be gone for "vacation" 21:40 cait the rest api one was a bit better 21:40 Joubu so yes first day of hackfest could be ok 21:40 Joubu it seems that these meetings don't bring a lot of people 21:40 drojf that is next week 21:40 cait if someone else does, fine by me 21:40 cait the work before hackfest i will be too busy to run a dev meeting 21:39 cait 10 utc ok then? 21:39 Joubu not really 21:39 cait would you want to organize one? 21:39 cait we could have a marseille pre meeting? 21:38 cait might have been the problem :) 21:38 cait i think it was close to lunch break 21:38 Joubu k 21:38 cait i think it didn<#t really work so well 21:38 cait we tired that before 21:38 rangi on the first day 21:38 rangi what about at the hackfest 21:37 Joubu would have been good to have a dev meeting before the hackfest actually 21:37 cait Joubu: hm? 21:37 Joubu will be too late as well 21:37 rangi yep 21:37 cait 19th ok? 21:36 rangi 14utc i cant, but the USA can 21:36 cait ok 21:36 rangi 10utc i could make 21:35 wahanui hmmm... help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help. 21:35 cait Joubu: help? 21:35 cait the general one is at 10 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings 21:34 cait 14 utc? 21:34 wahanui i guess 10 utc is a good time, but is very early on east coast USA 21:34 cait 10 utc? 21:33 cait what abut the 19th? 21:33 cait the week after is marseille 21:32 cait thenext general meeting is 5 october 21:32 rangi probably something that works for europe next 21:32 wahanui suggestions are still there 21:32 cait suggestions? 21:32 cait #topic Set time of next meeting 21:31 cait #action rangi to readd or email about Koha and Qvarn 21:31 cait hm ok 21:31 rangi ill re add it, and maybe do a mail in the meantime 21:29 rangi i dont think there are enough people for that to be worthwhile today im afraid 21:29 cait rangi: you turn :) 21:29 cait #topic Koha and Qvarn 21:29 cait ok moving on 21:29 cait true 21:28 cait #action cait to check on permissions for fund views (bug16126) 21:28 Joubu he did not answered, and is not around 21:27 Joubu about the funds, it would be good to get an answer from the author 21:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15434 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Make search results breadcrumbs human readable 21:27 cait #action Joubu to take a look at ES compatibility of bug 15434 21:27 cait and it's a real long standing issue 21:26 cait i can see server side might be nice... but this would still be an improvement 21:26 cait similar for me 21:26 cait k 21:26 Joubu so if it works... 21:26 Joubu I don't like it, but don't have a counter patch to provide neither 21:25 cait what about the discussion client/server side? 21:25 Joubu otherwise ask to the author if he is willing to provide a ES version 21:25 cait i amn not sure about that, but can check some other night 21:25 Joubu if ES compatible, I can pass QA on it if nobody is against it 21:25 cait for the funds: maybe we shoudl check permissions - can somoene who can#<t edit funds still access the complete table? 21:25 Joubu I will need to have a look again 21:24 Joubu sorry but got disconnected again 21:23 cait so what would be a path forward? 21:23 Joubu the breadcrumbs patch* 21:22 cait ok 21:22 Joubu iirc the breadcrumbs is zebra compatible only 21:22 cait the search breadcrumbs 21:22 Joubu which one? :) 21:22 cait for the first 21:21 cait can you rephrase? 21:21 cait sorry, not sure i got the point 21:21 Joubu the complete view is on another page 21:21 Joubu about 16126, I don't like it and I don't understand it 21:21 Joubu I'd be keen to make it in if it does 21:21 Joubu I don't remember the patch exactly actually 21:20 rangi hmm yep 21:20 Joubu about bug 15434, I don't really like it, and would like to see a ES version it is not compatible 21:19 * cait hands Joubu duct tape 21:19 cait the question here is: should the acq funds table be the same on the funds and hte acq start page or should the latter be a more simplified version 21:19 Joubu sorry but it seems that my box is gettting crazy 21:19 * Joubu has been disconnected again... 21:19 cait which i'd like to get some opionions on 21:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16126 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, remi.mayrand-provencher, Signed Off , Display base-level amounts on the acquisition module home page 21:18 cait #info Bug 16126 - Display base-level amounts on the acquisition module home page (see screenshots attached) 21:18 cait the other is 21:17 cait hm come to... 21:17 cait i am hoping we can get to a conclusion on this one 21:17 cait instead of server side 21:17 cait there was some critique about this being client side 21:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15434 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Make search results breadcrumbs human readable 21:17 cait #info Bug 15434 - Make search results breadcrumbs human readable 21:16 cait i noted 2 bugs on the wiki 21:16 cait Joubu: do you have sth? 21:15 cait #topic Updates from the QA team 21:15 cait ok 21:15 cait #info cait is concerned about change in workflow for testers - should still be easy to test bugs, need tools/instructions for that 21:15 rangi yup 21:14 cait we can move on now if people want to 21:14 cait that's my main concern 21:14 rsantellan so for anybody I can provide some help in elasticsearch matter 21:14 cait hm also need something for sandboxes 21:14 drojf rsantellan: happens every day 21:13 eythian (git hooks that reminify on checkout?) 21:13 rsantellan awkward moment!! 21:13 rangi yes 21:13 cait because easy for devs... hard for testers is bad 21:12 drojf rsantellan: huginn is a bot 21:12 huginn rsantellan: I've exhausted my database of quotes 21:12 rsantellan huginn: I installed version 2.4 and with all debs and fails to create the index, I can provide testing for the bug 17255 21:12 cait and we would have to make that super easy 21:12 rangi make it part of the release process 21:12 cait that'd mean that the testers need to run some build tools 21:12 rangi i think minify on release 21:12 cait but when i understand correctly 21:12 cait i think that's why some devs want to not have them in the repo 21:12 * drojf minifies awakeness 21:11 Joubu not really cait 21:11 cait I know that minified means that conflicts are hard to solve 21:11 cait i have some concerns 21:11 rangi yeah thats something we need to figure out 21:11 drojf right in time for minified things 21:11 cait Joubu: interested in discussion about minified files? 21:11 cait nothing happened ;) 21:11 * Joubu has been disconnected 21:10 drojf a new search engine 21:10 cait anyone interested in the discussion about minified files? 21:10 cait ok 21:10 cait we need a new one 21:10 cait :) 21:10 rangi eg weve done the OMGWTFBBQ one now 21:10 cait #info you can also update https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/I_want_to_help 21:09 rangi up date this too 21:09 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/I_want_to_help 21:09 cait hm? 21:09 cait #info marking easy bugs 'academy' for beginners is fine 21:09 rangi also there is a page on the wiki 21:09 cait ok 21:09 rangi yeah i think its a good idea, marking them academy is fine 21:09 cait i tihnk he wanted to propose some new keywords for makring easy bugs 21:08 cait kidclamp is not here 21:08 cait #topic General development discussion 21:08 drojf which i thiunk catmandu fixed after i made the repo 21:08 drojf there was a bug/feature grabbing underscore names 21:08 cait i am going to move to general dev 21:08 rangi nope 21:08 cait we got nothing for the next topic 21:08 cait moving on 21:07 rangi drojf: yup 21:07 cait #info No more 3.20.x releases except for security 21:07 drojf but for latest ES i think you need pretty late catmandu 21:07 rangi the only other thing is i wont be doing anymore 3.20.x releases except for security 21:07 Joubu would be cood to get a patch for the install process 21:07 cait moving on? 21:07 cait nice 21:06 rangi so people can use/test it there 21:06 rangi before hackfest 21:06 rangi which will be submitted as patches once elastic is upgraded 21:06 drojf rangi: there is still a catmandu 1.x repo somehwere on my server 21:06 cait mostly wondering if it could be testable in marseile 21:06 cait is there a timefame for it? 21:06 cait #info Catalyst IT working on bug 17255 - updating Elastic Search code to work with version 2.4+ 21:06 rangi and have overdrive records being searched via elasticsearch now 21:05 drojf yay 21:05 cait cool! 21:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17255 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Upgrade Elastic Search code to work with version 2.4+ 21:05 rangi we are doing work on bug 17255 21:05 drojf :P 21:05 cait not from me 21:05 drojf hm no i am afraid you will make me chair 21:05 cait any announcements? 21:05 cait so introduce yourself! 21:05 cait same here 21:05 drojf if it only takes 5 minutes i am here too 21:05 cait #topic annoucnments 21:05 Joubu I don't have much to say and it's a bit late here ;) 21:05 cait ok 21:04 rangi just go super fast 21:04 cait meeting with 4? 21:04 mkuhn #info Michael Kuhn (will now keep quiet and listen only) 21:03 Joubu (more or less aroud) 21:03 cait cozy meeting 21:03 mkuhn #info 21:03 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 21:03 rangi heh 21:02 cait noone else? 21:01 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 21:01 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_28_September_2016 21:01 rangi #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst NZ 21:01 cait today's agenda: 21:01 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 21:01 cait #topic Introductions 21:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_28_september_2016' 21:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:01 huginn Meeting started Wed Sep 28 21:01:02 2016 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01 cait #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 28 September 2016 21:00 cait let's start 20:58 cait get ready, grab a coffee - meeting in 2 mins 20:58 mkuhn ok, i know about ruby and python and perl, but never heard of pea ;-) 20:57 cait and lots of mattresses? 20:57 cait i think one pea 20:57 mkuhn hm, wasn't that about seven perls, or even seven mattresses? 20:56 cait let's see if he is a real programmer and feels it? 20:56 cait heh 20:55 mkuhn * puts a perl under the mattress of drojfs bed 20:54 * drojf grabs a bed before the meeting 20:53 cait ah, now i missed her 20:53 * rangi grabs a coffee before the meeting 20:49 rangi cya LibraryClaire 20:49 LibraryClaire night #koha 20:14 cait hm, it's just late here :) 20:13 huginn cait: My excuse for today is "tsunamis in the wave-division multiplexer" 20:13 cait @excuse 20:13 * LibraryClaire is jetlagged 20:12 cait someone willing to chair/co-chair? 20:12 * cait might fall asleep during th emeeting 20:00 eythian (search for rabbit in the page) 19:59 eythian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Bonaparte <-- this guy might invade though 19:57 CrispyBran hasenpfeffer? 19:56 cait ew 19:56 drojf and then we could eat rabbits. finally 19:56 oleonard If we lived on vegetable island we would live in perpetual fear of invasion from Japan's Rabbit Island. 19:55 cait hm almost everything i tihnk 19:53 LibraryClaire vegetable island! 19:52 drojf veggies? what do they grow there? 19:52 cait but good veggies 19:52 cait not sure that would be affordable... also cold in winter 19:52 drojf reichenau? 19:51 cait an all move there :) 19:51 drojf oleonard: ah, yes 19:51 cait maybe we should buy an island 19:51 cait until we all live in one timezone.. that imght get a little hard 19:51 oleonard drojf: If I'm there, that's the first part. When I leave, that's the second part. 19:51 drojf my work hours are 0 to 24 unfortunately :( 19:51 drojf cait: other people complain if it is not during their 9 to 5 work hours :P 19:50 drojf how many parts are there? 19:49 * oleonard might make it to the first part, not sure 19:49 cait tsk 19:49 drojf yep 19:49 rangi is that right cait ? 19:49 cait too tired? 19:49 drojf oh ok i think i won't make it 19:49 rangi i think 1 hour 19:49 cait rangi: i think she was always a bit german :P 19:48 drojf hi. is the meeting now or in an hour? 19:48 * LibraryClaire waves 19:48 * cait waves :) 19:48 LibraryClaire I think so, but I think it wasn't on as cold as I expected. some poking at cables was done etc 19:47 rangi hehe, was it? 19:46 * LibraryClaire is not good at adulting 19:46 LibraryClaire was checking the fridge was turned on :D 19:44 LibraryClaire hi rangi 19:44 LibraryClaire o/ 19:42 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 19:42 rangi heya oleonard 19:42 oleonard Hi rangi 19:41 rangi ohh look its the new german LibraryClaire ! 19:41 rangi morning 19:15 * cait waves 17:27 CrispyBran atheia++ 17:16 drojf ok, it does not approve entering a value and then changing the framework to use an authorized value. that might be a problem for all of those fields 17:12 drojf i can't delete the last one either. it just keeps the value 17:10 drojf anyone using 952$f for anything? it is supposed to be non repeatable but it keeps adding fields when i use it 16:57 reiveune bye 16:32 atheia CrispyBran++ 16:32 atheia CrispyBran nm, fixed sandbox 1 now — thanks for your report! 16:23 atheia CrispyBran please let me know when you're done testing, so I can have a quick play around with the sanbox 0 too. 16:03 kidclamp mveron++ 15:57 atheia CrispyBran Good to know, will see if I can update the database in sandbox 1 15:56 rsantellan kidclamp: doing a search return a 15:55:38-28/09 zebrasrv(4) [warn] ir_session (exception) on the output.log 15:56 CrispyBran atheia: sandbox 0 works. Appears to be the ONLY sandbox working today. 15:56 rsantellan kidclamp: the log says that Records exported: 82988 has been exported to zebra and 15:54:34-28/09 zebraidx(3487) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) 15:53 CrispyBran Trying it now. 15:52 atheia (in case you missed that because of temporary departure from channel) 15:52 atheia CrispyBran I will investigate. Would you mind trying sandbox 0 instead for now to see if yo uhave the same issue there? 15:52 atheia Joubu added some notes on Housebound. Hope they help you understand what's going on :-) 15:51 atheia CrispyBran I will investigate. Would you mind trying sandbox 0 instead for now to see if yo uhave the same issue there? 15:49 CrispyBran atheia: sandbox 1 shows that I set it up, but if you go to staff you can see that it is not. 15:48 rsantellan not, nothing on the logs! that is the problem, there is nothing on the logs and the search don't return anything 15:47 kidclamp sorry rsantellan, not sure of the issue, anything in logs? 15:46 rsantellan I just pass the -v flag to see what is happening 15:46 rsantellan is running, but I can't find any record. I have run rebuild_zebra.pl multiple times and nothing 15:40 kidclamp sudo koha-start-zebra koha 15:40 kidclamp sudo koha-stop-zebra koha 15:40 kidclamp try stopping and restarting zebra 15:39 rsantellan if I start in one console zebra (zebrasrv -f $KOHA_CONF) and run sudo ./koha-rebuild-zebra -f koha in another there is no log that is doing anything on zebra server 15:36 rsantellan my zebra is taking a break I believe :) 15:36 rsantellan is running, but I can't find any record. I have run rebuild_zebra.pl multiple times and nothing 15:35 * kidclamp was hoping for this: http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/4/27/15/anigif_enhanced-buzz-3414-1335553706-6.gif 15:34 kidclamp is zebra running? 15:34 kidclamp zebra running? 15:34 rsantellan I can't seem to load any data in zebra 15:34 rsantellan kidclamp, I will have to work harder to make zebra work then. 15:33 kidclamp but you can do that via reports 15:33 kidclamp rsantellan, you mean like performing a mysql search? that is not an available option 15:27 atheia Let me know if you want a hand! 15:27 atheia CrispyBran are still having issues with the PTFS sandboxes? I try to maintain them and was just using them successfully. 15:27 atheia Joubu No problem — was just testing housebound stuff :-) 15:21 rsantellan I only have the zebra or elasticsearch options 15:21 rsantellan Hi, is there a way on koha 16.05 to fallback on the searches to db? 15:18 kidclamp you can also do it via marcedit- in that case I think biblionumber/itemnumber must match 15:17 drojf kidclamp++ 15:17 drojf koha++ 15:17 drojf perfect 15:17 kidclamp I think bib has to match and barcode for the item 15:17 drojf kidclamp: ah there is? then i must have missed it (i did not need it before). thats awesome! thanks 15:17 kidclamp drojf - there is an option for 'Replace items if matching bib was found' 15:17 drojf (we still have lots of libraries on MAB, the german predecessor) 15:16 drojf oleonard: i am still waiting for a library to celebrate the advanced cataloguing editor. so far i usually have to explain marc basics 15:10 drojf is there a sane way to overwrite (not add) items from a mrc file? i think the web thingy only allows add or ignore? 15:05 drojf feels like 10 15:05 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 20.0°C (4:50 PM CEST on September 28, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 15:05 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 15:05 drojf oh wow 15:04 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Lotissement le Pitalugue, Vitrolles, France is 26.8°C (4:55 PM CEST on September 28, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 15:04 drojf @wunder marseille 14:41 CrispyBran Okay, I just tried sandbox 1 for ByWater, and nothing is happening. I just tried sandbox 1 for PTFS Europe, and it says I have set it up, but nothing is happening. Staff interface is still install screen. 14:40 Joubu atheia: I may have kicked your install, sorry :-/ 14:39 Joubu http://kohastaffsandbox.ptfs-europe.co.uk/cgi-bin/koha/sandbox.pl 14:39 Joubu "The current setup on this sandbox is = Sandbox setup by unknown with database 1 and bug on Wed Sep 28 14:36:42 2016" 14:38 Joubu there is something wrong on the setup page, the CSS is not there, but otherwise the form does what it is supposed to do 14:38 CrispyBran yes 14:38 Joubu CrispyBran: sandbox1 from PTFS-E looks ok 14:37 oleonard CrispyBran: Is your VM a sore subject? 14:37 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 14:37 CrispyBran oleonard? 14:37 CrispyBran kidclamp, do you know if VALNet has their plack activated, and if so, do they have the proper setting in the config set that we were missing? 14:37 oleonard CrispyBran: ? 14:35 CrispyBran DON'T get me started on the VM. :) 14:33 kidclamp but you should have your VM setup CrispyBran ;-) 14:32 kidclamp ByWater I can ping Kyle tomorrow, he set them up and I haven't had a chance to look into setup - others you would have to ask BibLibre or PTFS - I don't rememebr seeing anything on the lists 14:30 CrispyBran BibLibre is non-responsive, and ByWater form for setup appears differently and doesn't do anything after filling out the form. It says it does, but nothing happens. PTFS Europe looks like it might be working, on the second one, but the first one looks like ByWater's. 14:28 kidclamp all three providers? 14:27 CrispyBran do you know if the sandboxes are out of order? I can't seem to get any to work. 14:27 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 14:27 CrispyBran good morning 14:26 wahanui well, kidclamp is a stealthy spy from the realm of mutant turtles. 14:26 CrispyBran kidclamp 14:26 oleonard Am I at least in the top 5? Top 10? 14:25 kidclamp oleonard - you aren't the first to say so 14:23 oleonard It'd be nice to be able to set a patron-level permission on use of the advanced editor 14:22 oleonard On the other hand, the "real" catalogers (those not just doing fast cataloging) are excited about the advanced editor. 14:21 kidclamp hah 14:20 oleonard M: "It's not an error, it's a MARC editor." Them: "Never mind, the error fixed itself." 14:20 oleonard Librarians here: "What is this error I'm getting on the cataloging page?" Me: "You accidentally switched to the advanced editor." Them: "Oh, so how do I make the error go away?" 14:03 sophie_m sorry wrong chan :-[ 14:03 sophie_m lds : les mentions "déménagement" dans le page https://wiki.biblibre.com/doku.php?id=pole:maintenance:suivi:software_upgrade:2016:10 elles ont du sens ? c'est pas déménagement pour tous les hébergés ? 13:48 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:48 Joubu @later tell khall please have a look at bug 17368 and the PR for koha-plugin-kitchen-sink 13:32 nengard hiya oleonard 13:14 wahanui hi oleopard 13:14 eythian hi oleonard 13:13 oleonard Hi all 12:53 cait hope it goes well! 12:53 * cait waves back 12:52 * magnuse waves from joann's first talk in norway :-) 12:47 Tylathos hi cait :) 12:45 nengard :) 12:45 cait :) 12:45 cait hi nengard 12:45 * cait is a happy today 12:44 nengard cait!! 12:35 cait :D 12:32 wahanui paul_p is, like, the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee 12:32 nengard paul_p!!!!! 12:31 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded. 12:31 nengard @later tell tgoat thanks!! I haven't seen it yet 12:08 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 12:08 eythian @later tell wizzyrea https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/780863124547047424 11:31 drojf :( 11:24 eythian yes, you had a german bike lock and your bike got stolen. 11:21 drojf and no swinging time :/ 11:20 drojf i just got a german bike lock 11:20 eythian drojf: you should swing by here and get a Dutch bike lock ;) 11:19 * Tylathos waves 10:38 drojf heh 10:38 Joubu drojf: I am from Belgium, I won't say anything about French chocolate... 10:23 drojf i think i will bring haribo winegums for the hackfest 10:23 drojf how is french chocolate? 10:22 * drojf makes a note 10:16 Joubu chocolate would work better, for sure 10:14 drojf but mine are gluten free and extra dry. lol 10:14 drojf sorry, i did not know there is excessive cookie supply already, i would have brought something else 10:10 * Joubu has already plenty of cookies 10:02 drojf not even cookies work. what is wrong with you people? :( 09:59 * drojf throws cookies 09:02 eythian jcamins++ for paying a tiny fraction of my salary ;) 08:54 drojf morning #koha 08:39 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:39 Joubu @later tell tcohen on bug 17318 I'm just asking for info, not for a follow-up ;) 07:38 wahanui salut, gaetan_B 07:38 gaetan_B hello 06:52 wahanui salut, reiveune 06:52 reiveune hello 06:32 * magnuse starts the trek south to meet joann in an hour 06:31 * magnuse waves 06:23 fridolin hie 03:23 wizzyrea hi 03:10 tcohen yo 01:56 dcook haha. probably. 01:56 wizzyrea oh, probably in the tin foil hat kind of way too. 01:56 wizzyrea heh. 01:56 dcook But not in a tin foil hat kind of way :p 01:56 dcook Yeah, I think we're all probably watched more than we realize O_O 01:54 wizzyrea eek 01:54 dcook And they mentioned that they see me every day ont he way to work O_O 01:54 dcook Although... one time someone did make small talk and I said something about having never noticed them before 01:54 dcook It's a building of many small offices, so it's not like any of us really know each other anyway 01:53 dcook How nice is it that we don't have to force small talk where we all just laugh uncomfortably 01:53 dcook The other day, I was in the elevator and everyone was staring at their smartphones, and I thought... 01:53 dcook They're ruining the world and such 01:52 dcook wizzyrea: I don't know. Humans of some kind. 01:45 wizzyrea who hates smartphones? 01:36 dcook In enough to draw power to itself, but probably not far enough in to connect whatever circuit it needed to connect I'm guessing 01:35 dcook wizzyrea: Of course, there's always Occam's razor. The male plug for the master female slot wasn't in all the way. 01:32 dcook booking.com++ 01:27 jcamins eythian++ # for working at the site that enabled me to book my apartment in Cordoba 01:18 dcook I'd never seen them crawl before :3 01:18 dcook I know people hate smartphones, but it's pretty cool when your wife takes a video of your baby crawling and sends it to you over the air 01:18 dcook :3 01:06 dcook TFW a product's discount price is the same as what the normal price used to be... 01:01 wizzyrea yeah could be. 01:01 dcook I'm wondering if maybe the power supply is failing and its not drawing as much power? 01:01 dcook The Windows computer is on a dumb strip 01:01 wizzyrea so it's not, say, pulling so much power at any given moment. 01:01 dcook Well, the power strip is for the Debian computer 01:00 wizzyrea I wonder if it's something like a software update has changed the power saving modes 01:00 dcook Although in hindsight, I'm probably not saving that much power by doing it 01:00 dcook That's what I was thinking 01:00 wizzyrea that's a sensible thing. 01:00 dcook Yep 01:00 wizzyrea you can automatically cut power to the peripherals when the computer is off 01:00 dcook But if I turn it off at the wall, the buzz goes away. I assume it's doing something with some power even when it's "off" 01:00 wizzyrea if you have a computer, and a bunch of peripherals 00:59 dcook For instance, my washing machine sometimes makes a really loud buzz when it's turned off 00:59 wizzyrea oh so like 00:59 dcook The whole phantom load thing 00:59 dcook In theory, you save power when your master plug does off 00:59 wizzyrea what is the (intended) purpose? How is it *supposed* to work? 00:59 wizzyrea I don't understand the purpose of that kind of smart powerstrip 00:58 dcook And maybe I should look at my desktop's power supply... 00:58 dcook Maybe I should get a new power strip? 00:58 wizzyrea I don't even know what to say about that. 00:58 dcook Which has happened before... and seemed to magically fix itself... 00:57 dcook And... the master plug is working and surely the computer is drawing enough power but the rest of the plugs aren't switching on 00:57 wizzyrea ... 00:57 dcook It won't activate 3 plugs until the master plug draws a certain amount of power 00:57 dcook Oh, and my smart power strip isn't being so smart... 00:56 dcook Of course, now that my computer is back online, all I can do is whinge about how it was offline :p 00:56 dcook yep 00:56 wizzyrea #realproblems 00:56 dcook I was all "Debiannnnn let me go out and play..." 00:56 dcook I did interrupt it a few times, but that just made it go longer! 00:55 dcook lol 00:55 wizzyrea my first thought was "how nice for it!" 00:55 dcook I didn't try the Ubuntu laptop because I was given a baby when it was clear I wasn't able to use either desktop 00:55 wizzyrea I'm sorry, I'm completely 12 inside. 00:55 wizzyrea hehe 00:55 dcook Of course, at the exact same time, my Debian box was having the longest fsck of all time 00:55 dcook Also this is a work machine (Don't judge me!) 00:55 dcook Actually, I think it tried to install a driver which didn't exist, and then it took me it had no drivers installed.. 00:54 dcook In its defence, it technically is an unsupported driver... but it works well 00:54 dcook In my case, it just uninstalled my display adapter driver and replaced it with a faulty one... 00:53 dcook wizzyrea: yep, windows 10 00:53 wizzyrea was it windows 10? because I have a windows 10 machine at home (for games! Don't judge me!) that just won't update and I'm about to throw it out our (very high) window. 00:49 dcook Speaking of patches, you got to love when an update breaks something on your computer... 00:47 mtj agree :) 00:45 dcook wizzyrea: Definitely creepy 00:44 mtj ooh, git apply -v is good, i'm learning stuff 00:36 mtj herm, i think i just answered my question :) 00:30 mtj i guess its the patch tool, having more success with one patch, over another? 00:29 mtj .. but other times, you dont get the option?! 00:29 mtj ..why is it that sometimes when a patch wont apply, you get the option of attempting to apply it manually 00:28 mtj i have an curious question about applying patches...