Time  Nick            Message
05:45 * cait          waves
05:47 cait            drojf++ #nightly builds and other things :)
06:04 * mveron        waves back, is just filing the de-DE numeric field validation bug
06:12 * cait          waves at mveron
06:39 * magnuse       waves
06:54 morgane         hi #koha !
06:58 Joubu           http://perl4lib.perl.org/ now displays the correct url for the Koha website ;)
07:00 cait            @later tell rangi did you see comment#9 on bug 16780? (backporting request)
07:00 huginn          cait: The operation succeeded.
07:00 cait            i gues i don#t want to ask what it said before?
07:03 cait            bbl :)
07:10 drojf           morning #koha
07:10 magnuse         moin drojf
07:22 fridolin        hie
07:29 drojf           hei magnuse and fridolin
07:31 rangi           yeah i did cait, but i dont do 3.22
07:32 rangi           @later tell cait yes I did, but i maintain 3.20.x not 3.22.x
07:32 huginn          rangi: The operation succeeded.
07:39 gaetan_B        hello
07:39 wahanui         niihau, gaetan_B
07:41 magnuse         kia ora rangi and gaetan_B
07:52 magnuse         drojf: any new on Bug 16662? just curious :-)
07:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16662 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, NEW , Letsencrypt II: Return of the cryptosaurus. (make it work for existing instances)
07:52 magnuse         s/new/news/
08:00 magnuse         cait!
08:00 eythian         hi
08:00 wahanui         kia ora, eythian
08:05 magnuse         hiya eythian
08:21 LibraryClaire   hi #koha
08:23 eythian         hello LibraryClaire
08:23 eythian         @wunder ams
08:23 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 12.9°C (10:19 AM CEST on August 10, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
08:23 eythian         12.9°!
08:23 LibraryClaire   hi eythian
08:23 LibraryClaire   @wunder LCY
08:23 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 14.0°C (8:50 AM BST on August 10, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
08:24 eythian         it looks like it should be warm out there, and there's no wind. But it's not. It's weird.
08:28 magnuse         @wunder boo
08:28 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 10, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
08:28 magnuse         @wunder ciutadella
08:28 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Ciutadella de Menorca, Ciutadella De Menorca, Spain is 24.0°C (10:27 AM CEST on August 10, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
08:29 drojf           hi eythian and LibraryClaire
08:29 drojf           magnuse: it's on my list, but there are a few other things before that
08:29 drojf           i blew all my non-existing playtime away on nightlies ;)
08:30 drojf           it might wait until the hackfest
08:31 drojf           where you could test :)
08:32 LibraryClaire   hi drojf
08:33 magnuse         drojf: nightlies seem like a very good idea too :-)
08:33 magnuse         i will test in marseille if you put it together!
08:33 drojf           10 utc is in 1,5 hours?
08:34 drojf           no late candidate for kohacon 2017 i guess
08:34 magnuse         is there a meeting?
08:35 drojf           no, it's bidding deadline
08:35 magnuse         ah
08:35 drojf           and instant win for the philippines
08:36 magnuse         yay!
08:36 drojf           unless something comes up
08:36 magnuse         but yeah, i think tere is ~1,5 left until 10utc
08:36 drojf           i was wondering when the US question came about participant numbers
08:36 drojf           if they want to bid
08:46 wizzycrayfish   @wunder nzwn
08:46 huginn          wizzycrayfish: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 5.0°C (8:30 PM NZST on August 10, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
08:46 wizzycrayfish   5 that is too cold.
08:46 wizzycrayfish   clear so gonna be cooooold as tonight
08:46 cdickinson_     @wunder lower hutt
08:46 huginn          cdickinson_: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 4.1°C (8:40 PM NZST on August 10, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
08:46 * cdickinson_   nods in agreement
08:47 wizzycrayfish   always a bit warmer in lyall bay
08:47 eythian         @wunder ams
08:47 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 15.3°C (10:35 AM CEST on August 10, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
08:47 eythian         well that lept up fast
08:47 wizzycrayfish   hey that's nice weather.
08:47 drojf           @wunder txl
08:47 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 17.6°C (10:45 AM CEST on August 10, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
08:47 wizzycrayfish   hi eythian
08:47 eythian         it was 13 about half an hour ago
08:47 cdickinson_     pretty remarkable considering it's summer there
08:48 drojf           global warming does that
08:48 wizzycrayfish   hum.
08:48 eythian         yeah, the past week or so hasn't been very summery
08:48 wizzycrayfish   i have some friends who just moved to ams from nz, I'm sure rangi alerted you to them
08:49 magnuse         wizzycrayfish: snow in the mountains?
08:49 wizzycrayfish   yes :D
08:49 wizzycrayfish   snow on the visible-from-wellies tararuas even!
08:49 wizzycrayfish   even a bit on the orongorongo's, which I can see from my house
08:50 * wizzycrayfish goes to find that photo
08:52 eythian         wizzycrayfish: he mentioned that they exist and gave them my email, I have yet to hear from them though.
08:52 wizzycrayfish   they are probably too busy eating croissants.
08:52 wizzycrayfish   :D
08:53 eythian         croissants are especially Dutch :)
08:53 eythian         more likely cheese sandwiches
08:53 wizzycrayfish   https://twitter.com/Nakiman/status/763189023670095872
08:54 wizzycrayfish   there is one of the about 20 brilliant wellies photos from today
08:54 wizzycrayfish   it was a Wellington Good Day (tm)
08:54 wizzycrayfish   (after about a week of positively abhorrent weather)
08:56 wizzycrayfish   https://twitter.com/bnolan/status/763286494349922304
08:57 wizzycrayfish   https://twitter.com/OrientalBayNZ/status/763245477349367808
08:57 wizzycrayfish   ok I'm done now :)
08:57 cait            morning #koha
08:57 LibraryClaire   hi cait
08:58 cait            hi LibraryClaire_away :)
08:58 magnuse         wizzy
08:58 magnuse         gah
08:58 magnuse         wizzycrayfish: nice pics, thanks!
08:59 wizzycrayfish   how about you are you having reasonable weather?
08:59 wizzycrayfish   eythian: cheese sandwiches!
09:00 wizzycrayfish   do you have especially good cheese sandwiches?
09:01 magnuse         with gouda!
09:02 wizzycrayfish   gouda sandwiches!
09:02 magnuse         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dutch_cheeses
09:03 magnuse         hm, that list is a bit short for a hackfest
09:03 magnuse         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_cheeses
09:03 magnuse         that's more like it
09:04 wizzycrayfish   magnuse++
09:04 eythian         wizzycrayfish: the cheese is so important here that they name towns after the types.
09:05 magnuse         lulz
09:06 wizzycrayfish   https://spoonuniversity.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/33/2015/10/giphy3.gif like this?
09:06 eythian         pretty much yes
09:50 mveron          lunchtime
09:50 wahanui         somebody said lunchtime was a terrible time for a meeting
10:15 eythian         wizzyrea: it was probably me
10:15 eythian         err
10:16 eythian         wahanui: it was probably me
10:16 wahanui         eythian: what?
10:55 Tylathos        Hey:9
11:05 marcelr         hi #koha
11:06 LibraryClaire   hi marcelr
11:06 marcelr         :)
11:07 marcelr         @later tell drojf Test/WWW/Mechanize.pm 1.42 will be fine
11:07 huginn          marcelr: The operation succeeded.
11:08 drojf           marcelr: bug 17087
11:08 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17087 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Set Test::WWW::Mechanize version to 1.42
11:08 marcelr         will look at ti
11:08 marcelr         it
11:10 drojf           tiny patch :)
11:11 marcelr         done
11:14 Tylathos        short question :D
11:14 Tylathos        if i make a bug for a new feature, how detailed should the description/comment be?
11:14 drojf           marcelr: thanks!
11:15 drojf           Tylathos: as detailed as necessary :P you can also put an RFC in the wiki if it is something big
11:15 Tylathos        No im writtend enough RFC at work :D I'm not gone write any of these here :D
11:16 Tylathos        drojf: and what version should i choose?
11:16 drojf           master
11:16 drojf           dev work is always done against master
11:17 magnuse         here are some useful tips: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:RFCs
11:17 drojf           or. almost always
11:18 Tylathos        bug 17101
11:18 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17101 new feature, P5 - low, ---, T.Reimann95, ASSIGNED , Confirm a question before check in
11:18 Tylathos        is it so correct?
11:23 magnuse         Tylathos: looks good to me
11:23 magnuse         there is a similar feature, where you can define a message per itemtype that is shown when you check in, but without the yes/no buttons
11:23 magnuse         maybe you can build on that?
11:24 Tylathos        yes it's build on that feature
11:24 magnuse         cool
11:25 Tylathos        it only add a new check in message category :)
11:30 oleonard        Hi all
11:31 Tylathos        hi oleonard
11:31 LibraryClaire   hi oleonard :)
11:36 oleonard        @wunder 45701
11:36 huginn          oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 22.7°C (7:36 AM EDT on August 10, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
11:37 eythian         @wunder ams
11:37 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 15.5°C (1:23 PM CEST on August 10, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
11:38 eythian         I guess it's stopped warming up here
11:38 LibraryClaire   @wunder LCY
11:38 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 17.0°C (12:20 PM BST on August 10, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
11:42 marcelr         eythian: zelfs voor een hollandse zomer zijn dit pet waarden
11:43 eythian         marcelr: it was 13 when I got up this morning, that's barely a warm winter's day
11:44 marcelr         ;)
11:44 eythian         hoping it clears up on Friday, wanting to go to Uitdam see the meteors
11:44 marcelr         it should be better
11:46 eythian         forecast is for a clear evening, so that's hopeful
11:52 oleonard        Tylathos: I like the idea of Bug 17101 a lot. Is it something you're working on?
11:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17101 new feature, P5 - low, ---, T.Reimann95, ASSIGNED , Confirm a question before check in
11:54 Tylathos        oleonard: yes i do. I'm currently helping an unsalaried library. And becaus the person who work there are mostly over 60, we need this function, so that they don't forget to control the cd's ^^
11:54 oleonard        Yes, that's exactly how I can see us using the feature too.
11:58 Tylathos        the good thing is, that i can use a lot of work already done :) i just have to make them together :)
11:59 * oleonard      sends cookies to whoever added the batch delete option to the staff client cart
12:00 magnuse         Tylathos: bug 10513 introduced the per itemtype message
12:00 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10513 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, CLOSED FIXED, Light up a warning/message when returning a chosen item type.
12:01 Tylathos        magnuse: i know and i will use that prework done :)
12:01 magnuse         cool
12:02 Tylathos        i will just add an new category and make and if question in perl befor the item is check out. It sound's more complicated, then the real work rly is :D at the moment my problem is that my ftp server don't work :D
12:13 Tylathos        is this guide still up to date? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Install_and_Setup_Koha_to_use_Git_on_a_Development_Server
12:16 cait            kohadevbox?
12:16 wahanui         kohadevbox is at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
12:16 cait            there are multiple ways on how to set up a dev environment
12:17 cait            i have a 'classic' git installation - but also a lot of people seem to be using kohadevbox
12:18 cait            Tylathos: hm i would probably not use that guide
12:18 cait            git installation?
12:18 cait            gitify?
12:18 wahanui         gitify is at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
12:19 cait            i'd use kohadevbox, gitify or install a bit differnetly than in that guide
12:19 Tylathos        ok thx :)
12:20 cait            on a first glance this would be a bit more like i did it in the past: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_git
12:20 cait            using koha_perl_deps
12:20 cait            and running Makefile.PL - the changing paths part of the one you found looks a bit complicated
12:34 tcohen          hola
12:35 craigbutosi     Hi Tomas, How are you this morning?
12:35 tcohen          hi craigbutosi
12:39 oleonard        Does anyone know if Bug 2629 is still valid?
12:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, ago, In Discussion , Diacritics not being ignored when searching
12:40 tcohen          is it about zebra? or just SQL queries?
12:40 tcohen          the former wouldn't be valid
12:41 LibraryClaire   hi tcohen
12:41 oleonard        It's about zebra as far as I know tcohen
12:51 cait            oleonard: it is valid f you are not using ICU
12:51 tcohen          i think it should be closed and a new bug opened if someone finds a reproducible bug
12:51 cait            oleonard: there are some features not working with ICU - so there is still good reason not to use it if you don't need to
12:51 cait            like exact search
12:52 cait            callnum,ext
12:54 oleonard        cait: I'm inclined to go with tcohen's suggestion for what to do with 2629. What do you think?
12:56 cait            sec
12:56 cait            sorry, phone
12:57 tcohen          my reasoning is that the bug report seems dirty right now (patches pushed, patches that shouldn't be pushed, no clear path for a solution, etc)
12:57 tcohen          if some of this bug is still reproducible we should fill a new one
13:06 oleonard        Does anyone have the Display856uAsImage system preference turned on? It doesn't look to me like it works.
13:23 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10148: Marc21 field 007 builder improper reload values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=22c851cc2fea3c3868f7643132392f0a34439c65> / Bug 17038: Fix XSS in catalogue/search.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b543fa74fe888b9e53cfc06ac58e2f7ac1689ae5> / Bug 17036: Fix XSS in circulation.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=96a9c2
13:33 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7441 - DBRev 16.06.00.013 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01e041ca40606c48a507bc64a8e3edf7ea11b2c5> / Bug 16929: [QA Follow-up] Add dependency for Bytes::Random::Secure <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=86144a65e0a674c80737f31dcc81f984dd4744e5> / Bug 16929: [QA Follow-up] Shortcut methods and use statements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;
13:43 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17074: Follow-up: fixing encoding issues with multiple search terms <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=09d7a47f1fb1c645d0e3ffb93fb88409b3310363> / Bug 17074: Fix links in result list of 'scan indexes' and keep search term visible <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d7e62b808522b1871d6b704e0ae5def3be886ee> / Bug 17053 Clearing search term in Reports <http://git.
13:53 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16806: no error message for 'too_soon' renewal <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa2f56fa1a76d98ab9543a100810c354c4d23554> / Bug 16776: Do not forget external language choice in language switcher <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=62d16aa6b750aaade2267596c19292659333f8c8> / Bug 17082: Translatability: Fix sentence splitting in member.tt <http://git.koha-commun
14:03 mveron          Hmm, I have an endless loop in installer after latest git pull. intranet-error.log says 'Database is 16.0600012 and Koha is 16.0600013'
14:03 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16969 cgi->param used in list context in opac-memberentry.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ef3b19dbd414539dbc8c45ecc595e399df31781> / Bug 17040: Fix translation on context menu when editing items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=72150ee7596e2644febbab248e6b3c9b7b3af69b> / Bug 17020: Do no pass findborrower to the template <http://git.koha-community.org/
14:03 mveron          It seems that updatedatabase.pl does not set the new $DBversion in database
14:04 tcohen          mveron: tell khall just in case
14:04 marcelr         maybe an error somewhere in the latest dbrevs ? or a memcache thing ?
14:04 khall           !
14:04 tcohen          mveron, restart memcached
14:05 * tcohen        has seen that
14:10 mveron          I even re-started the server and went directly to staff client, log in for installer, next, says "Everything went OK", continue to log in, falls back to STEP=1
14:10 tcohen          ctrl+shift++r?
14:10 * tcohen        abandons his lazy attitude and goes review updatedatabase.pl
14:11 mveron          tcohen: ctrl+shift+r does not work
14:12 tcohen          hm}
14:12 tcohen          it looks ok to me
14:13 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17052: Display patron category description in the sidebar of paycollect <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3badb0c570beada485cc71ea6b494da1d59f1b0> / Bug 17055 - Add classes to different note types to allow for styling on checkins... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbfda36767c113b8e515e8d2bfedd435ed7bd133> / Bug 17078 - Format fines on opac-account.pl <http
14:16 marcelr         mveron: just updated to 13 without problems
14:17 drojf           i had that on a production system with 3.22. to 3.22.8 i think
14:17 mveron          I added a warn on line ~12798 and inside if ( CheckVersion..) for 16.06.00.013
14:18 mveron          First warn appears, second not. It must be something in CheckVersion
14:19 tcohen          mveron: are you running plack?
14:19 mveron          Yes
14:19 tcohen          :-D
14:19 tcohen          sudo koha-plack --restart instance
14:19 tcohen          it needs to re-read the Koha.pm file
14:19 tcohen          from which it picks the code version
14:20 tcohen          so, the DB is upgraded, but to Plack, the code is older
14:20 marcelr         that should be it, i ran with memcache but without plack
14:20 Joubu           -R should be added
14:20 tcohen          Joubu: stop using plackup instead of starman :-P
14:21 marcelr         yeah
14:21 * tcohen        knows starman accepts more or less the same switches, though
14:22 Joubu           tcohen: there is no way to reload automatically?
14:22 tcohen          i filled a bug for that
14:22 marcelr         with plackup you have this watch stuff
14:22 tcohen          but I found that plackup recomends not using it in production
14:22 marcelr         true
14:23 Joubu           no I'd not use -R in production
14:23 marcelr         we should probably remove it from the codebase ?
14:23 tcohen          ah, on kohadevbox
14:23 Joubu           but in production you should know that you have to restart memcached+plack
14:23 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7741 - DBRev 16.06.00.013 - Add IGNORE to insert in case of backporting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e16019f27b19c23a78eb2a955552e0a9d639b4fa> / Bug 16944: Add "email" and "url" classes when edit or create a vendor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71d20a8c3b48a4dd1c7fb569b3baf2352d9757ac> / Bug 16953: Acquisitions home: Remove trailing &#8250; from brea
14:25 tcohen          Joubu: we could write our own middleware
14:25 Tylathos        Is today the migration day, becaus of that many commint(s) ?
14:26 tcohen          or have it reloaded in the *CGI::new = sub... line
14:26 tcohen          in plack.psgi
14:26 cait            Tylathos: usually that happens every day
14:26 mveron          sudo koha-plack --restart instance and koha-plack --restart do not help, still trapped
14:26 cait            bit slower during vacation time i guess :) pushing to master happens continouusly
14:26 Tylathos        cait: wow this is a realy produktiv community :D
14:26 drojf           mveron: restart memcached?
14:27 cait            we are :) but at the moment it's a bit slower - not always that much
14:27 cait            git?
14:27 wahanui         git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
14:27 cait            hm not that one
14:27 cait            http://git.koha-community.org - you can see the commits
14:27 cait            and http://dashboard.koha-comunity.org
14:27 cait            you can see how many bug changes every day, newest features pushed etc.
14:28 Tylathos        hm, is everything stable which is pushed to the master branch?
14:30 cait            master is not to be used for production
14:30 cait            but everything that is pushed has been signed off and passed QA
14:31 cait            and only the Release Manager can push to master
14:32 Tylathos        ^^ i see it right that every month a new release is scheduled?
14:32 cait            a release from master is only every 6 months
14:32 cait            the next is in november
14:32 cait            there will be a feature freeze and a string freeze at some point
14:33 cait            so after that date we don't push new featrues to master for a while and then no strings - so that translators can finish before the release
14:33 cait            the monthly releases are for the stable versions - those are separate branches in git
14:35 Tylathos        ah ok, i understand :)
15:34 morgane         bye #koha
16:19 Joubu           What's the STACK authorised values linked to 952$j?
16:19 cait            i was never able to figure it out
16:21 Joubu           I need to add a FK on marc_subfield_structure.authorised_value
16:21 Joubu           but it will be a nightmare :-/
16:21 cait            that sounds like a bad plan
16:21 cait            because i am pretty sure some people have reused fields
16:21 cait            for 952 probably not so problematic... but i know for location that it's sometimes used as a free text field
16:22 Joubu           marc_subfield_structure.authorised_value used as a free text field??
16:22 cait            hm, but imight bemisunderstanding
16:22 cait            this day is too long and my index won't index...
16:22 cait            no sorry
16:22 cait            I did misunderstand
16:22 cait            i thought about the items
16:22 cait            ignore me
16:22 Joubu           k :)
16:23 cait            i am trying to add a new search index to this installation... and ...gr. it all works but one and i can't find the mistake :(
16:37 cait            typo... of course
16:39 Joubu           942$a is linked to a av category "itemtypes", but it does not seem to be added by the installer
16:40 cait            it's a virtual one
16:40 cait            like branches i think
16:40 cait            it doesn't exist
16:40 cait            not as an authrised value, there is some magic elsewhere that knows that this is the itemtypes table
16:40 cait            hm
16:40 cait            i think i was thining about 942$c
16:40 * cait          will stop talking now
16:41 Joubu           erk yes
16:41 Joubu           pffffff
16:41 * Joubu         hates authorised values
16:41 cait            heh
16:41 * Joubu         hates authoriZed values as well
16:41 cait            lol
16:42 * cait          is just glad her index indexes now :)
16:54 magnuse         index all the things!
17:37 cait            oleonard++
17:37 cait            xslt--
17:37 cait            gr.
17:59 oleonard        I wonder how long it will take me to look for the "Save" button in the floating toolbar when editing patrons, instead of scrolling to the bottom.
17:59 cait            i got almost used to it now
18:22 oleonard        Bug 7045
18:22 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7045 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Default-value substitution inconsistent
18:22 oleonard        I did not know that Koha had default value substitution!
18:36 barton          me neither!
18:50 cait            dev meeting in a few minutes
18:51 cait            but no topics on the agenda - anyone around for it?
18:51 cait            https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_10_August_2016
18:51 kidclamp        around
18:51 kidclamp        I think barton too
18:53 oleonard        I'm only around for another 20 minutes or so
18:59 Joubu           I am around too
18:59 Joubu           But nothing much to say :)
18:59 Joubu           Actually yes, but I'll send an email to the list tomorrow (did not prepare anything yet)
19:00 cait            just got off the phone, reading bakc
19:01 cait            are there topics?
19:01 drojf           hi. not really here
19:01 cait            otherwise maybe we should push it by 2 or 4 weeks maybe
19:01 cait            it's pretty quiet still with people on vacation it feels
19:01 oleonard        I agree
19:03 cait            drojf: do you have something to discuss?
19:05 drojf           cait: not really
19:05 drojf           for nightlies it would be cool if someone could signoff bug 15200
19:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15200 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot
19:06 drojf           because that is the last one i apply manually atm
19:06 cait            ok
19:06 cait            :)
19:07 Joubu           The only thing maybe
19:08 cait            heh, shall is tart the meeting after all? :)
19:08 Joubu           bug 15758
19:08 wahanui         it has been said that bug 15758 is almost there!
19:08 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move the C4::Branch related code to Koha::Libraries - part 4
19:08 Joubu           we need a quick QA on this one
19:08 Joubu           it's a nightmare to rebase and oleonard did a very great job on signoff
19:09 cait            #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 10 August 2016
19:09 huginn          Meeting started Wed Aug 10 19:09:07 2016 UTC.  The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:09 huginn          Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
19:09 huginn          The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_10_august_2016'
19:09 cait            let's make this quick
19:09 cait            #topic Introductions
19:09 wahanui         #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
19:09 cait            #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_10_August_2016
19:09 oleonard        #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries
19:09 cait            #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
19:10 kidclamp        #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
19:10 Colinc          #info Colin Campbell PTFS-Europe
19:10 drojf           #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany
19:10 Joubu           #info Jonathan Druart
19:10 cait            ok
19:10 bag             #info brendan gallagher bywater
19:10 cait            #topic Announcements
19:10 cait            bag?
19:10 wahanui         it's his birthday!
19:10 bag             :P
19:11 bag             bag?
19:11 wahanui         it's his birthday!
19:11 bag             forget bag
19:11 wahanui         bag: I forgot bag
19:11 bag             no announcements from me :)
19:11 bag             khall: you have anything?
19:11 cait            neither from me :)
19:12 barton          #info Barton Chittenden, BWS, USA
19:13 cait            ok, moving
19:13 cait            i am going to jump to bugs in discussion
19:13 cait            as there are no submissions for coding guideline changes
19:13 cait            #topic Bugs in discussion
19:13 cait            drojf: what was your bug again?
19:14 cait            #info drojf needs a  signoff on bug 15200 for the nightly builds of the packages
19:14 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15200 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot
19:14 drojf           yes that one
19:14 cait            #info Joubu asks for speedy QA on bug 15758 as it's hard to keep current/rebase
19:14 drojf           or just send it through qa. it's only a build dependency
19:14 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move the C4::Branch related code to Koha::Libraries - part 4
19:14 cait            anything else?
19:14 wahanui         i heard anything else was just being crap
19:15 Joubu           yep
19:15 Joubu           bug 16579
19:15 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16579 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use separate memcached namespace for caching koha-conf.xml
19:15 Joubu           just talked with kidclamp and we need eyes on this one
19:15 kidclamp        joubu++
19:15 Joubu           it's important for our caching system
19:16 cait            #info We need more eyes on bug 16579 - as it's important for our caching system
19:16 cait            discussing the implementation or checking it works?
19:17 Joubu           both
19:17 oleonard        Sorry folks, gotta go.
19:17 Joubu           It's in discussion because I'm not sure it's 100% ready for signoff
19:17 Joubu           for can be tested and reviewed
19:17 Joubu           s/for/but
19:19 cait            ok
19:19 cait            anything else?
19:19 wahanui         anything else is just being crap
19:19 Joubu           not for me
19:19 cait            ok, i will jump to set timefor next meeting if that is ok?
19:20 cait            #topic Set time of next meeting
19:20 cait            a month?
19:20 wahanui         i think a month is more than enough time.
19:20 cait            hm if we do one in 2 weeks
19:21 cait            we could get into a nice rhythm with the community meetings - every 2 weeks
19:21 barton          sounds good to me, cait!
19:22 cait            so 24th?
19:22 cait            which time?
19:22 wahanui         well, which time is better for my area? 10:00+0000 or 22:00+0000?
19:23 Joubu           not 19UTC :)
19:24 cait            suggest something :)
19:25 Joubu           15 ?
19:25 wahanui         15 is fine by me
19:25 Joubu           If it's ok for wahanui...
19:25 drojf           lol
19:25 drojf           works for me
19:25 cait            ok
19:25 drojf           not sure about non-europe
19:25 Joubu           16 ?
19:25 wahanui         hmmm... 16 is pretty awesome
19:25 Joubu           :)
19:25 cait            we had 19 utc now
19:25 Joubu           17 ?
19:25 wahanui         17 is about perfect for sleeping.
19:26 cait            i think until we go much later it will still be hard for outside of europe
19:26 cait            i think 20 / 20.30 could work for nz
19:26 cait            not sure about australia
19:26 cait            or we go into the other direction and make it much earlier
19:27 drojf           7 utc? :P
19:27 barton          15:00 or 22:00 is ok by me, as is 20:00.
19:28 cait            what is 7 here?
19:29 drojf           9
19:29 cait            ok by me
19:30 Brooke          any non Yank football fans on?
19:30 drojf           we could try it and see wha thappens
19:31 cait            ok
19:31 kidclamp        7utc is 3am for me, not so likely, but once a month is doable
19:31 cait            we wouldn#t keep it at that time
19:31 kidclamp        :b
19:31 cait            but shall we try it out?
19:32 kidclamp        +1
19:33 Joubu           ok for me
19:33 cait            #agreed Next meeting is August 24th at 7 UTC
19:33 cait            thx all
19:33 cait            #endmeeting
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19:33 drojf           cait++
19:39 kidclamp        cait++
19:40 drojf           good night #koha
20:14 tcohen          hi
20:14 wahanui         what's up, tcohen
20:15 tcohen          calm down, wahanui
20:15 wahanui         tcohen: excuse me?
20:23 mveron          good night #koha
21:17 * andreashm     waves
21:52 rangi           well that was annoying
21:54 andreashm       rangi: what was?
21:54 wahanui         was is cql.. or forget.. jcamins care to pipe up ;)
21:56 rangi           sposta be in christchurch but the plane was all iced up
21:56 tcohen          rangi: hi!
21:57 rangi           heya tcohen