Time Nick Message 21:47 * wizzyrea sing the package building song 21:47 wizzyrea (and no dislike because you should have to justify why you think a thing is bad with a comment.) 21:46 wizzyrea a thing that doesn't send an email, but lets people know that you've seen their comment and you approve. 21:46 wizzyrea I think bugzilla needs a "like comment" thing 21:40 wizzyrea hi 20:51 andreashm (And yes, before you think I'm a total moron, I've been testing the OAI-PMH harvester, record matching rules and repeated harvests of the same record) 20:48 andreashm a report, is the only idea I have. 20:48 andreashm any ideas for an easy way to get biblio-numbers so I can batch delete? 20:47 andreashm yeah, but same issue there. 240 batches of the same record. =) 20:47 cait your import i mean 20:47 cait can you undo? 20:47 cait heh 20:45 andreashm (ok, I'm just whining...) 20:45 andreashm for when you like me, mistakenly have imported a lot of duplicate records. =) 20:44 andreashm yup 20:44 cait andreashm: hm? for merging? 20:44 * cait waves 20:42 andreashm why isn't there a "select all" function when you do a cataloging search? 20:08 drojf evening 20:08 andreashm evening 20:06 rangi morning 19:54 andreashm hi #koha 19:47 Tylathos Have a good night :) 19:44 * kidclamp waves 19:42 * cait waves 18:05 oleonard Or is it not intended that items in a course reserve be checked out only to students in the course? 18:04 oleonard I would think that course reserves functionality would require that you be able to assign patrons to the course 17:20 cait c 17:20 cait hm wonder if i can just put that with 260 17:18 drojf right 17:18 drojf i think you are tight 17:18 drojf eythian: ha yeah 17:18 eythian Which I fancy is unwarranted 17:18 eythian drojf: you assume people remove unneeded 'use' declarations 17:17 cait just saying 17:17 drojf lol 17:17 cait that's not a lot fo info huginn 17:17 huginn cait: Period covered 17:17 cait @marc 513 b 17:17 cait hmm 17:17 huginn cait: unknown tag 513$b 17:17 cait @marc 513$b 17:16 huginn cait: unknown tag 513b 17:16 cait @marc 513b 17:14 drojf so in theory it should be possible to git grep for all the stuff in the deps file and see what is not there 17:13 drojf apart from that i think we have proper declaration of dependencies 17:13 drojf there are still some weird things going on in tests 17:12 eythian drojf: yeah. Especially if they have automatic imports. Though I bet that's a solved problem. 17:04 Tylathos HEy folks 16:58 drojf it would probably also take forever to check if we still need all of them 16:57 drojf heh 16:48 eythian drojf: to be fair, it took me forever to do that from liw 16:30 drojf i have not even started taking over the maintenance of eythian#s stuff 16:30 drojf heh hi liw 16:28 * liw waves a little "packaging is fun" flag from a galaxy far, far away 16:26 drojf that packaging thing is becoming a full time hobby :P 16:26 * drojf spreads confusion on the bug tracker 16:24 cait thx a lot 16:22 mveron cait: I will file a bug (later) to document the findings 16:22 mveron cait: with lang="en", thousand separators space and ' are a problem, comma works 16:15 cait i got not much timr right now :( 16:14 cait thx again 16:14 mveron not 16:14 mveron cait: nor sure, I will test with en 16:14 Joubu mveron: sorry no idea, I did not follow the discussion 16:14 cait hm might cause problems if you enter the thousands separator 16:13 mveron (the latter seems to work with , and with . as decimal separator) 16:13 mveron cait, Joubu: What to do? - Replace input fields of type "number" or give them a language attribute lang="en" ? 16:05 morgane bye #koha 16:02 mveron :-) 16:02 cait mveron++ 16:02 cait mveron verified 16:02 cait requires me to use a comma when german is selected 16:02 cait Joubu: the new entry field for manual fines reacts to your browser locale 15:57 mveron Joubu: Just was testing the weird de-DE thing with number format. 15:57 mveron Cait: Regarding the format: Yes, I think it will be the best bet to change to Price. 15:57 Joubu mveron: Are you working on prices formatting all around the interface? 15:56 mveron It's my own test libray, so it well be even... 15:55 cait i don't trust the credits 15:55 mveron cait: You can do the same :-) 15:54 cait heh 15:54 * mveron tests with credits , not with invoices - will soon be a rich man, virtually. 15:54 mveron 100'000.90 works (with de-CH), but not with de-DE (needs 100'000,90) 15:52 cait and then the only thing we need to figure out still is the question of how to show the currency symbol 15:52 cait mveron: hm ok, so we change all the displays to Price.. and then we do whtever we did there and will be fine? :) 15:51 gaetan_B bye 15:51 mveron We use . as decimal separator it makses sense. But it accepts comma as well. 15:51 cait 100'000? 15:51 cait because i think you use ' for the 100.000? 15:51 cait does it not recognize de-CH or is it just ok with . there? 15:50 cait ah that makes sense 15:50 mveron Same if I give the input field an language attribute: lang="en" 15:49 mveron cait: Found. If I set the Koha language to de-DE and then, with firebug, set HTML source from <html lang="de-DE"> to <html lang="en">, the field accepts bouth 5.50 and 5,50 15:37 mveron drojf: Thanks anyway for the hint :-) 15:36 mveron drojf: Per accident, I'm on a new VM. I was not aware of, changed settings today. Next commit should be OK. 15:35 drojf *on 15:34 drojf mveron: i have seen a few "Signed-off-by: Marc <veron@veron.ch>". is your last name missing un purpose or by accident? 15:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15200 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot 15:33 drojf could someone take a look at bug 15200 please? 15:29 drojf libfile-slurp-perl (>=9999.13) <- that looks fishy. but debian actually has that :D 15:28 eythian nice 15:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, ASSIGNED , Generate debian/control with version numbers from PerlDependencies.pm 15:28 drojf eythian tcohen: i built and installed a package with it, seems to work ok so far. bug 17092 15:20 cait what happens when you try to enter with , in de-CH? 15:20 cait yeah my guess was something html5 field validation too 15:19 * mveron digs the differences between de-DI an dde-CH 15:19 mveron cait: Strange enough, with en, if I give a wrong number like 5xxx98, it says "Bitte geben Sie eine Nummer ein" as well (in German). Maybe it's a Firefox thing. 15:17 cait mveron: i wonder what happened there 15:17 wahanui i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad 15:17 cait mveron: interesting 15:05 mveron cait: Regarding "Bitte geben Sie eine Nummer ein": I can reproduce with de-DE, but with de-CH it works 15:04 mveron Hi again #koha 14:18 Tylathos ah now 14:18 Tylathos Test 13:48 eythian so you should probably do something about that. 13:48 eythian well, there's eels 13:48 * magnuse gotta run 13:48 magnuse :-) 13:48 eythian magnuse: Luftputebåten min er full av ål, yes 13:46 magnuse my hovercraft is full of eels? 13:44 tcohen :-) 13:44 tcohen is bugzilla running in plack? 13:42 tcohen is that greek? 13:42 drojf lol 13:42 eythian next you should try "Myn hovercraft sit fol mei iel" 13:41 drojf :P 13:41 drojf i have not even started yet! 13:41 eythian drojf: no, you mean "hoi tcohen", did you learn nothing from that course? 13:40 tcohen hey drojf 13:38 drojf hi tcohen 13:37 tcohen bonjour 13:24 eythian that does sound like awkward timing. 13:24 drojf makes sense to learn frisian while in the area though :D 13:23 drojf eythian: it's during 3 weeks where i will be on a northern frisian (!) island, then marseille, then maschinenfest. with virtually no home time in between. might be complicated 13:14 eythian I just like the idea of it as being the language most close to English that's in use. And the other close-to-it language is the one I'm studying anyway :) 13:13 drojf sometimes 1-3 go together too 13:13 drojf for me it's like 1) german 2) english 3) all other languages i ever looked at 13:12 eythian oleonard: well, one's a language that I'm already familiar with but need practice in certain areas, the other is a very introductory course. Hopefully they won't conflict in my head :) 13:11 oleonard jajm around? 13:10 drojf yeah tempting. i would be interested. not sure if i will actually have time 13:10 oleonard Learning two languages simultaneously sounds very confusing. 13:07 eythian 3 weeks at 3 hours per week, it's not a huge time investment (which is good as I'll have Dutch classes at the same time.) 13:07 eythian I thought I might 12:58 drojf eythian: are you doing that? 12:57 drojf eythian: oh cool 12:57 drojf Tylathos: of course it does, i wrote it :P 12:57 drojf easiest signoff ever 12:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17087 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Set Test::WWW::Mechanize version to 1.42 12:56 drojf bug 17087 12:53 eythian https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/frisian <-- drojf, don't forget to get some language practice in before you visit here or you won't know what's going on anywhere 12:52 Tylathos that sound funnys :) 12:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube 12:51 oleonard Bug 14168 12:51 oleonard Tylathos: I think it's for embedding video 12:50 oleonard We should have a bug-squashing day just for cleaning up the 'Failed QA' list. 259 bugs long. 12:50 Tylathos WWW::YouTube::Download <== Why do koha need this modul? 12:48 drojf we can talk about it once somebody does koha-win :P 12:48 eythian s/backported into/upgraded in/ 12:48 drojf yes 12:48 eythian drojf: that's probably also why 1.44 hasn't been backported into Debian, no practical changes. 12:47 Tylathos This is so typical for a cpan modul :D 12:47 drojf so long, 1.44 12:46 drojf Fixed test failures on Win32. Thanks, Jerry Gay. 12:46 drojf [FIXES] 12:46 drojf There is no new functionality in this release. 12:46 drojf ------------------------------------ 12:46 drojf 1.44 Sat Jun 30 20:32:04 CDT 2012 12:46 drojf 1.44 was the latest version on cpan when marcelr added the dep 12:45 * Tylathos complaining just for drojf ^^ 12:45 eythian people will have been using it with the older version for years now 12:45 eythian assuming it's only used for testing, that's what I'd do 12:43 drojf i'm tempted to set it to 1.42 and wait for someone to complain 12:43 huginn 04Bug 8300: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, CLOSED FIXED, Koha should have mechanized testing suite 12:42 drojf from that comment i'd assume that it was fine with whatever was in whatever debian or ubuntu people used in 2012 https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300#c4 12:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, CLOSED FIXED, Koha should have mechanized testing suite 12:41 drojf bug 8300 12:41 magnuse phew 12:40 drojf magnuse: you're off the hook. for now :P 12:40 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 12:40 drojf @later tell marcelr do we actually need ibtest-www-mechanize-perl 1.44 and not 1.42 which is in wheezy and jessie? 12:40 drojf marcelr did it first apparently. you redid the patch 12:40 magnuse what he said :-) 12:40 magnuse i did? 12:40 oleonard Don't ask me about anything oleonard from 3 years ago did. That guy was an idiot. 12:39 drojf you have to! you added it only 3 years ago :P 12:38 magnuse dunno 12:37 drojf magnuse: do we actually need ibtest-www-mechanize-perl 1.44 and not 1.42 which is in wheezy and jessie? 12:23 drojf it's URI::Escape 3.31. which comes with liburi-perl 12:22 drojf ok 12:21 drojf and it is 1.71 on cpan. i guess that is just wrong 12:18 drojf the only one that looks really off is liburi-perl >=3.31 vs actual 1.64-1 12:14 eythian better than I expected 12:14 drojf *too 12:14 drojf eythian: blindly trying with version number gave me 3 (out of a million or how many we have) that were not found. does not look to bad 12:12 drojf :D 12:12 cait heh 12:12 cait drojf humansnack gluten free cookie 12:12 cait hi drojf 12:11 drojf hi oleonard and cait 11:55 * cait waves at oleonard 11:45 Tylathos hi oleonard :) 11:41 oleonard Hi all 11:12 drojf there is even a $ver in list-deps, it is just not used 11:12 drojf yeah makes sense 11:11 eythian sure, I think it would be a good addition. I also wanted to add the non-required ones as "recommended" 11:09 drojf eythian: ok. my laziness told me that i don't want to add more expections for required versions by hand. if i have to add them for the package version, it would not be much win :P but i'll have a look 11:07 eythian drojf: not really, except that the perl package version style doesn't always match the cpan version style, so you'll need to be aware of those cases (there shouldn't be many, but I have seen it before.) Otherwise, just laziness :) 11:05 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 11:05 drojf @later tell eythian is there a reason why the version numbers from PerlDependencies.pm are not automatically set in debian/control? 11:02 magnuse moin drojf 11:01 drojf hei magnuse 10:53 magnuse drojf++ 10:30 Tylathos hey folks 10:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15200 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot 10:17 drojf bug 15200 is the last one needed to get true nightly master builds 10:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6499: [QA Follow-up] Trivial adjustments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b4259be9c237c7773f6af9f6c83894718be603d> / Bug 6499: Add Zebra index "Other-control-number" covering MARC21 035$a, 035$z and... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84f51549c94a5f5fdc227e6febb472946ca2b71c> 09:35 wahanui i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 09:35 cait interesting 09:35 cait sounds like something was stuck somewhere 09:35 morgane s/jully/july 09:34 morgane for my two emails 09:34 morgane cait: I received all of them yesturday but the date on it is the 22nd of jully 09:32 cait morgane: no idea - you got the email from days ago? 09:30 drojf hi #koha 09:19 eythian never rains but it pours eh 09:04 morgane morning cait! I finally received my wiki logs ! Now I have three accounts on the wiki :p do you know what happened? 08:01 cait good morning #koha 07:32 fridolin hie 07:08 gaetan_B hello 07:02 morgane hi #koha ! 06:42 magnuse wb cait 06:37 magnuse [off] the reason i forgit it was i had to go to our cabin to look for my wife's wallet 06:27 dcook :p 06:27 * dcook was just trying to be funny... 06:27 dcook I assume it's a nice thing? 06:27 dcook You forgot to upgrade the production server 06:24 magnuse ? 06:23 dcook magnuse: This is why we can't have nice things :p 06:12 * magnuse forgot to upgrade the production server last night... 06:12 magnuse \o/ 05:59 * cait waves 05:40 * magnuse waves 05:25 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 05:25 cait @later tell oleonard could youtake another look at bug10848 maybe? 05:25 huginn cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes 05:25 cait @oleonard could you take another look at bug 10848 maybe? 03:43 wizzyrea later 03:41 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha wizzyrea rangi 03:19 mtompset Thanks for some ideas. 03:19 tcohen talk tomorrow mtompset, good luck! 03:19 mtompset no problem... 03:19 tcohen sorry but I need to leave 03:18 wizzyrea much easier to get those right than to hack in DOM support 03:18 wizzyrea to get a 3.22 to generate a koha-conf and replace the relevant entries/passwords 03:18 wizzyrea it's easier, in most cases 03:18 wizzyrea i've had this happen with conversions too :/ 03:17 mtompset Wasn't dom default for 3.18? 03:17 wahanui really is more trouble than she's worth. 03:17 tcohen really? 03:17 mtompset koha-conf says dom. 03:17 tcohen best is, create a fresh new instance, move the apache config and load a DB dump. period :-D 03:16 mtompset steps to check that? 03:16 rangi and you don't want to be doing that 03:16 rangi yeah 03:16 rangi you also need to make sure its using DOM 03:16 tcohen mtompset: its because you are still using a GRS-1 configunraiton 03:16 mtompset At this point in time, I'll take it. 03:15 rangi it will, but the old ones 03:15 mtompset turning it to 0 gave me facets. 03:15 rangi 3.22.08 is working fine with zebra facets for me 03:15 mtompset It was 1. 03:14 rangi it doesnt build the facets in zebra unless you have it switched on 03:14 mtompset I did a full reindex 03:14 rangi and do a full zebra reindex 03:14 rangi switch it back on 03:14 wizzyrea I'm sure you will track that down :) 03:14 wizzyrea I don't know why the zebra facets are busted but 03:14 wizzyrea now mind you 03:13 mtompset let there be facets! 03:12 wizzyrea try 0? 03:12 mtompset 1. 03:12 wizzyrea is it 1 or 0? 03:12 mtompset And the system information tab in the about mentions no warnings. 03:12 mtompset Yes, that exists in the koha-conf. 03:11 mtompset let me check.... 03:11 wizzyrea something like this 03:11 wizzyrea <use_zebra_facets>1</use_zebra_facets> 03:11 mtompset Oh... missing xml entries? 03:11 mtompset Hmmm... from 3.18.x if I recall. 03:11 wizzyrea tcohen would know more about that 03:10 wizzyrea or do you have the pref at all 03:10 wizzyrea ah, do you ahve use zebra facets enabled in your koha-conf? 03:10 mtompset can't remember from what to what. 03:10 mtompset We upgraded... 03:10 wizzyrea like an upgraded one 03:10 wizzyrea is this an old install? 03:09 mtompset I know the $facets is empty for some reason, but I haven't tried to trace it deeper. 03:09 wizzyrea :) that's pretty specific 03:09 mtompset tonnes of search results. 03:08 mtompset specific: "Where are the facets... it's blank!" 03:06 wizzyrea yeah gonna have to be specific there 03:05 tcohen 'loss of facets displayed'? 03:05 mtompset ^Any^Anyone^ 03:05 mtompset Any experience a loss of facets displayed using 3.22.09? 03:01 mtompset Greetings, #koha 02:39 wahanui zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses 02:39 wizzyrea zebra? 02:39 wizzyrea zebra 02:39 wizzyrea aw I thought wahanui said something funny for that. 02:39 wizzyrea is your zebra running? 02:01 wizzyrea like this sort of thing ldapsearch -H ldaps://host.name -s base -x -w "" -d 1 does stuff? 02:01 tcohen no problem actually 02:00 wizzyrea I'd have you paste me your config but that might be awkward 02:00 tcohen I can 02:00 tcohen yes, but VPN connexion would kick me out of IRC :-D 01:59 wizzyrea from your koha to your ldap? 01:59 wizzyrea can you ldapsearch from the command line? 01:59 wizzyrea most of ours are auth by bind 01:59 tcohen i'm not sure what people tend to use 01:58 tcohen and just need it to compare passwords, or auth by bind 01:58 tcohen to figure how the authentication would work 01:58 tcohen i'm just testing against a replica of a production LDAP 01:58 tcohen i disabled most of the mappings 01:57 wizzyrea i can't recall if we fixed that bug. 01:57 wizzyrea extended borrower attributes on? 01:57 tcohen why do i get that :-D 01:57 tcohen https://snag.gy/uH6wZG.jpg 01:56 wizzyrea but I have done it :) 01:56 wizzyrea i wouldn't call myself an expert 01:56 wizzyrea a bit yeah 01:56 tcohen LDAP authentication 01:56 tcohen wizzyrea: do u have experience in setting LDAP in Koha? 01:55 tcohen pull requests for improving it are welcome 01:55 tcohen besides that, did you like it? :-D 01:54 wizzyrea yeah sok I was just like, is this really how this is supposed to go :) 01:54 tcohen I haven't had the time to spend on it 01:54 tcohen so they get installed later, and the next run is ok 01:53 tcohen (inside Test::DBIx::Class) 01:53 tcohen i think it is bad dependencies 01:53 tcohen no, you are not 01:53 wizzyrea race of some kind? 01:53 tcohen it is a bit recent 01:53 wizzyrea YES. that's exactly it ok I'm not losing my mind :D 01:53 tcohen i haven't found why recent Test::DBIx::Class fails to build the first time 01:53 wizzyrea >.< really?! 01:52 tcohen :-D 01:52 tcohen you need to do it twice actually 01:52 wizzyrea afaik I followed the instructions lol 01:52 wizzyrea so I just used the ansible devbox for the first time, and I'm wondering if it's normal that you have to provision like 3 times before it works? 01:51 tcohen hi wizzyrea, yes 01:51 wizzyrea are you around for a lil bit? 01:51 wizzyrea hi tcohen 01:43 tcohen hi