Time Nick Message
23:56 dcook :D
23:55 wizzyrea Why do we have database files that are mandatory, but able to be not installed. So confusing.
23:40 mtompset the permissions system... *cringe* But I think I figured out the MySQL I need. :)
23:01 wizzyrea you can set it all to 0 if you want!
23:01 wizzyrea onboarding, that's what it's called.
23:01 mtompset Who says we do circulation? :P
23:00 wizzyrea oh and create your first circ rule.
23:00 wizzyrea which I think is probably ideal.
23:00 wizzyrea yep, if we made some kind of extension to the installer, we could just have them add a user then.
23:00 mtompset AND all that other stuff you mentioned.
23:00 mtompset Then we should actually prompt for the first super librarian user....
22:59 wizzyrea yeah but that's not acutally solving the problem :P
22:59 mtompset Just a massive yellow warning here and only allow superlibrarian would be sufficient for this screen. :P
22:59 wizzyrea in fact, we should just make an extension to the installer, where if someone doesn't select the optional branches and borrower categories, we prompt them to create some at install time.
22:59 mtompset Scope control. :P
22:58 wizzyrea and "you don't have borrower categories. Do that here"
22:58 wizzyrea we should also check for things like "you don't have a branch defined, do that here"
22:58 wizzyrea if you're going to do that
22:58 wizzyrea ^.^
22:58 mtompset wizzyrea: yes, but no one reads. *sheesh* :P
22:57 wizzyrea we put a huge warning on the home page :)
22:57 mtompset system user can only set superlibrarian?
22:57 mtompset Perhaps we should purposefully prevent it?
22:57 mtompset Right, I know.
22:57 wizzyrea (by default, on purpose)
22:56 wizzyrea some of which are not installed when Koha is.
22:56 wizzyrea but a new user is dependent on lots of stuff, like borrower categories and branchcodes
22:55 wizzyrea the problem being "give a user to a newly installed koha that works out of the box"
22:55 wizzyrea and we haven't come up with a great solution to the problem yet.
22:55 wizzyrea and people shouldn't use it
22:54 wizzyrea because making it work encourages people to use it
22:54 wizzyrea i mean you're welcome to go down that rabbit hole but I suspect if you went about fixing it you'd get pushback
22:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16978 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Failed QA , Add delete reports user permission
22:54 mtompset plus... I was just trying to understand the permission system, so I could write the necessary SQL query for bug 16978
22:53 mtompset But if setting permissions works for setting the superlibrarian or other full permission blocks, why don't the granular permissions work.
22:52 mtompset True, rangi... but sometimes laziness bites you in the butt. :)
22:52 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back.
22:52 cait night all
22:51 cait i should sleep :)
22:51 cait ah... being one to add the permisions
22:51 cait there i sno patron account
22:51 cait that user has no permissions to be set - that's wh i am confused
22:51 rangi it says it right there :)
22:51 rangi except to make a real one
22:51 rangi becayse you are never ever ever supposed to use that user
22:51 cait ?
22:51 cait =
22:50 mtompset But now I want to know why mixed doesn't work for system users. :P
22:49 wizzyrea excellent. :)
22:49 mtompset all is good.
22:49 mtompset and then log in as that person...
22:49 wizzyrea lol
22:49 wizzyrea but that is why we discourage that
22:49 mtompset But if I superlibrarian one...
22:49 wizzyrea that's not super obvious
22:49 wizzyrea haha
22:49 mtompset exactly.
22:49 wizzyrea oh like the koha admin?
22:48 mtompset mixed checks don't work for a SYSTEM USER.
22:48 wizzyrea go on then
22:48 wizzyrea oh I probably will :)
22:48 mtompset Something stupidly obvious.
22:48 mtompset You are not going to believe the cause.
22:48 mtompset oh get this...
22:43 wizzyrea (but I bet you are not)
22:43 wizzyrea and/or cleared memcached if you are using it
22:42 wizzyrea have you cleared your cache/cookies lately?
22:42 wizzyrea just for kicks
22:36 mtompset I'm going to screen cast this...
22:34 mtompset drop database, create database, run web install.
22:34 mtompset No, it's a blank DB.
22:34 mtompset Okay... back...
22:22 wizzyrea do you have anything in your intranetuserjs?
22:22 wizzyrea I just used your steps mtompset, it works for me
22:16 cait maybe something there
22:16 cait here is some javascrit at work on that page
22:15 * mtompset takes 15-20 minute break to pick up brother from work.
22:14 mtompset (drop database koha_library; create database koha_library; quit; -- then run web install steps full sample data)
22:14 mtompset okay... so my fresh install is not failing in that regard.
22:13 wizzyrea 181
22:13 wizzyrea hm
22:12 mtompset wizzyrea? cait?
22:10 mtompset show tables;
22:10 mtompset use koha_library;
22:10 mtompset how many tables do you have in your DB? I have 181.
22:09 mtompset I choose to uncheck "forced_checkout" this time.
22:09 mtompset nope... same problem.
22:08 mtompset okay... nothing looks like it... anyways... doing webinstall now...
22:07 wahanui accountlines is, like, the table
22:07 cait accountlines
22:07 cait i tink that's about money
22:06 mtompset C4/Accounts? Mmm... we'll see.
22:06 mtompset 23MB.
22:05 wizzyrea O.O
22:05 mtompset huge git pull on my master branch.
22:05 wizzyrea :) I keep a clean master branch for this reason hehe
22:04 * mtompset shouts, "RESET IT ALLLLL!"
22:04 mtompset 16978... good idea... let's try this against master.
22:03 wizzyrea do you have a pristine master branch?
22:03 wizzyrea are you checked out on master or a particular bug?
22:03 mtompset This is an ANCIENT.... full git
22:03 wizzyrea that rules that out :)
22:03 mtompset plack.
22:02 mtompset wizzyrea: I don't know how to set up place.
22:02 mtompset no errors in the js console.
22:02 wahanui Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information.
22:02 wizzyrea plack?
22:01 wizzyrea (though I bet if you clicked save now, the perms you set would be blanked out)
22:01 mtompset Let me chck.
22:01 wizzyrea errors in the js console?
22:00 wizzyrea so the display is wrong?
22:00 mtompset Full Sample Data.
22:00 mtompset Yes.
22:00 wizzyrea are they saved in the database?
22:00 wizzyrea maybe because you'd always have to know the number and/or a librarian could accidentally delete it?
22:00 mtompset save, come back in... nothing is set.
22:00 mtompset uncheck one of them.
22:00 mtompset all set... come back in ... it's okay.
21:59 mtompset chose circulate.
21:59 mtompset set permissions, because none of them are set...
21:59 wizzyrea cait: re 7520 idk why I feel weird about a public report
21:59 mtompset log in with the system user, go to Koha Admin (since I choose all sample files)
21:59 mtompset Nope... same problem.
21:58 mtompset but perhaps same solution?
21:58 mtompset full git clone.
21:58 mtompset No, not devbox.
21:56 wizzyrea there was a bug in older devboxes that caused permissions to be dumb
21:55 wahanui rumour has it devbox is great for getting going quickly
21:55 wizzyrea devbox?
21:55 mtompset then recheck.
21:55 mtompset I'll dump and force a fresh install.
21:55 mtompset -- that's a possibility.
21:55 mtompset -- no it isn't.
21:55 cait something not quite right with the database?
21:55 mtompset home -> patron -> {chose Admin, Koha}
21:55 cait maybe it#s specific to the reports?
21:54 cait check updatecharges - save - uncheck reamining permissions - save - open again - resave - all good
21:54 mtompset but then why is my display blank the second time I go back into set permissions?
21:54 cait it#s behaving correctly
21:54 cait mtompset: i tried with updatecharges
21:41 mtompset Thank you. :)
21:41 mtompset Okay.
21:41 cait i can try then
21:41 cait finishing something else first
21:40 mtompset Do you have time to run those steps I suggested in my paste above, cait? It's really quick.
21:40 cait we get placeholders to move around in any case - mveron takes care of that
21:40 cait i think the translation will be ok
21:39 mtompset Greetings, cait. :)
21:39 mtompset ugly in the sense of "how do you format this information?"
21:39 mtompset It's a really piece of ugly but necessary output.
21:38 mtompset The problem is when you are dealing with something which is going to hit multiple translations with variable values, you really want multiple language speakers' input.
21:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13796 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Alert in OPAC when renewing an item with a rental charge
21:35 cait i think we need a native speaker on bug 13796 to resolve a wording question
21:34 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Serious permissions bug!" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/50
21:33 mtompset I have an issue I'd like someone else to confirm. Anyone got time for a quick 5 minute check?
21:32 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
21:32 mtompset @later tell mveron Thanks for 16978 signoff. Find a side bug. :(
21:32 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
20:33 cait rangi++
20:33 cait thx!
20:30 rangi gone
20:26 cait should all have Spam as a atitle
20:26 rangi nvm found them
20:25 rangi do you have a list of bugs?
20:25 rangi i have to find and delete all comments and bugs and stuff etc before i can do that too
20:24 cait maybe delete?
20:24 rangi cait: i can delete the user, there is no block thing though
20:23 rangi morning
18:07 eythian drojf: oh, if you want a fun project, I always wanted to turn the release notes into debian changelog
16:54 oleonard On the list of authorized values you may not know you can use because it's not loaded by default: MANUAL_INV
16:00 cait hm ithink it#s some kind of include file
15:43 Joubu drojf: see http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=release-tools.git;a=summary
15:28 drojf how is the release team generated for the release notes? it seems to show the recent packaging manager (myself), but the last generation of bug wranglers (including myself). that's a little weird
15:13 morgane bye
14:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16310 - Remove the use of "onclick" from audio alerts template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcd139b22239206142809993cf9e328a3cdce38d>
14:34 drojf because it#s not consistent
14:34 drojf it's not gonna get more confusing than what we have now
14:32 cait might bemore confusing to people
14:32 cait hm not sure about splitting
14:32 tcohen both should be split into proto (http/https) and base URL
14:28 drojf why does OPACBaseURL want http(s) and staffClientBaseURL doesn't?
14:16 drojf ah ok
14:16 oleonard The number is correct in the body of the message. It's just a typo.
14:16 drojf koha 15.5?
14:03 khall oleonard: I'll check on that, maybe I was asleep at the wheel ; )
14:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16310 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove the use of "onclick" from audio alerts template
14:03 oleonard khall: Bug 16310 says "pushed to master" but it doesn't look like it really was.
12:57 cait lol
12:51 tcohen hehehe
12:49 * drojf grabs fake mustache
12:49 LibraryClaire :D
12:48 magnuse ~o~
12:48 * LibraryClaire waves arms around
12:47 LibraryClaire like the village people?
12:47 drojf or a dance group
12:46 drojf if we stop working on koha, we could be awesome airport staff
12:45 drojf \o/
12:45 magnuse o/
12:45 tcohen \o
12:45 Joubu tcohen: o/
12:44 tcohen hi Joubu
12:43 LibraryClaire hi tcohen
12:43 tcohen hi drojf
12:43 drojf hola tcohen
12:43 tcohen buen dÃa #koha
12:26 cait my immedaite solution to the problem was testing with the Sereal patch reverted out *hides*
12:26 cait i missed that - will try to test it :)
12:26 cait aah
12:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Koha::Cache - Use Sereal for serialization
12:26 Joubu cait: last patch of bug 16715
12:24 cait Joubu: i got problems installing Sereal and was told you were working on something, do you ahve the bug number by chance?
12:24 cait btw - can someone take another look at the patron modification bug?
12:23 cait valid
12:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron Modification log access permission
12:23 cait bug 17000
12:23 cait heh :)
12:23 Joubu luckily they did not get 17000!
12:18 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
12:18 cait @later tell rangi can you block samitasinha67@gmail.com in bugzilla?
12:17 cait same problem we had on the wiki
12:17 cait they do register ig uess
12:17 drojf no need to register on bz to post?
12:17 cait hope i caught them all
12:17 cait as best as i could - set the comments private and changed the titles
12:17 oleonard cait++
12:17 oleonard 16998, 16999, 16997, 17002
12:17 drojf oh :/
12:17 cait i tried to hide them
12:16 oleonard Spam bug reports
12:16 drojf or people working? :P
12:16 drojf fake comments?
12:16 drojf oleonard: hm?
12:15 oleonard Man, what is it with the Bugzilla spam this weekend?
11:50 * LibraryClaire waves
11:48 marcelr hi #koha
11:48 meliss hi magnuse!
11:47 magnuse hi oleonard and meliss
11:46 cait hi oleonard
11:46 oleonard Hi #koha
11:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Create a link to opac-ics.pl
11:30 magnuse Joubu++ for qa'ing bug 5456
10:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15397 - Pay selected does not works as expected <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=537adde2d2f65ed9bb9a03a127b9906930d46353>
10:47 cait sorry, was at lunch
10:46 cait Joubu: if you wnat to pass it that's ok for me - otherwise i can take a look
10:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11360 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Disable barcode field and submit button when a hold is found
10:46 cait bug 11360
10:31 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 22.5°C (12:30 PM CEST on August 01, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
10:31 drojf @wunder txl
10:24 Joubu cait: do you want to have another look at 11360?
10:19 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:19 Joubu @later tell tcohen D8 is failing because of Sereal missing. But wait for the second patch of bug 16715 (we need libsereal-decoder-perl and libsereal-encoder-perl instead)
10:05 Joubu could someone confirm that there is a bug when uninstalling a koha plugin?
09:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16573 - DBRev 16.06.00.012 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8b54cb3be3c15287b88869550d5fde2221f5d94> / Bug 16573: Define virtualshelves.created_on as datetime for existing installs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=44785935bd45291a2ae36a5c9ab65b1e6cf69c5b> / Bug 16573: change created_on type - atomic update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;
09:43 cait I was wondering if we shoudl try for a qa sprint/gbsd... but not sure there are people :)
09:42 cait it seems we have vacation time and things are slow in general
09:42 cait aw.
09:42 Joubu cait: I have not looked at the code. I do not plan to QA it
09:39 cait do you understand the active transactions?
09:39 cait Joubu: thx for the hint :) will try to do that later
09:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6934 enhancement, P3, ---, bouzid.fergani, Signed Off , New report Cash Register Statistics
09:38 Joubu cait: on bug 6934 comment 94 you wrote that you got the "used only once: possible typo" warnings. You should update your qa-tools repo ;)
09:33 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 19.6°C (11:22 AM CEST on August 01, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
09:33 eythian @wunder ams
09:11 magnuse pianohacker wrote in his "moving on" email to koha-devel: "taking a job with a local web application shop"
09:09 cait bywater is still there - I think someone else will probably have to take over
09:05 ashimema didn't he have a bunch of pretty big features in the works
09:04 cait not sure about pianohacker - but I know he has a new job
09:04 cait nengard to redhat
09:04 ashimema going to greener pastures?
09:03 magnuse well, they do say they will be around...
09:03 ashimema really
09:03 ashimema oh now..
09:03 magnuse nengard pianohacker...
09:03 cait nengard and pianohacker
09:03 ashimema have I missed someone leaving?
09:03 ashimema another?
09:03 cait as long as you come back... i can't stand losing another person anytime soon
09:03 magnuse hang in there!
09:03 ashimema it's been a big dark cave I for far too long :(
09:03 ashimema still a month or so off before I reach the other end and get to come back to koha.
09:02 * cait throws a pokeball at ashimema
09:02 ashimema the light at the end of the tunnel is slow growing bigger..
09:02 * drojf prefers them cooked
09:02 ashimema lol
09:02 cait ... or maybe not quite
09:02 * cait resists the urge to make a joke about rare pokemons
09:02 ashimema :)
09:01 LibraryClaire hi ashimema
08:59 cait an ashimema! :)
08:59 cait oh
08:57 * drojf jumps
08:56 * ashimema_ ducks
08:55 * cait waves back
08:54 * LibraryClaire waves
08:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 01, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
08:49 magnuse @wunder boo
08:44 magnuse \o/
08:43 * cait waves
08:31 magnuse kia ora paul_p
07:59 magnuse kia ora cait!
07:56 magnuse july is the common holiday month in norway - it was very quiet
07:56 magnuse hehe, probably
07:55 drojf but i hope it will get more quiet now as all other people start their holidays
07:54 drojf magnuse: would love some holidays, not very relaxed ;)
07:52 magnuse hiya LibraryClaire
07:50 LibraryClaire hi magnuse
07:49 magnuse and yourself?
07:48 drojf :)
07:48 magnuse very relaxing
07:48 magnuse oh yes!
07:48 magnuse well, two weeks of work now, then a couple more weeks of holiday
07:48 drojf did you have a good time?
07:48 magnuse yup
07:47 drojf holidays over?
07:47 magnuse moin drojf!
07:47 drojf hei magnuse
07:47 * magnuse waves
07:46 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 16.0°C (8:20 AM BST on August 01, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:46 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
07:45 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 16.1°C (9:35 AM CEST on August 01, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
07:45 drojf @wunder txl
07:45 drojf hi LibraryClaire
07:45 LibraryClaire morning drojf
07:45 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:44 drojf morning #koha
07:04 morgane hi #koha!
06:43 fridolin hie
02:55 dcook bender lately*
02:55 * dcook has been on a RPM packaging bende rlately
02:55 dcook I don't know why more distros don't have it O_O
02:55 dcook Huzzah, just packaged libslack's daemon for openSUSE
02:41 wizzyrea hi :)
02:40 dcook Also, hi wizzyrea ^_^
02:38 dcook Shuldn't be right now either but just wanted to get this one thing done..
02:38 dcook Haven't worked on koha in a while..
02:38 wizzyrea :) it happens
02:36 dcook This code is just a bit behind the times
02:36 dcook wizzyrea: Yeah, it looks like it's fixed in master
02:36 dcook The first one was a change to kohastructure.sql that |I made... also a missing comma :p
02:35 wizzyrea ok then
02:35 dcook Missing comma
02:35 dcook Might have been fixed already but looking at it
02:35 dcook wizzyrea: It's a typo in sysprefs.sql
02:35 wizzyrea dcook what version of mysql are you trying to install on?
02:31 dcook Oh, perhaps an error in sysprefs.sql too after all
02:27 * dcook disappears into the shadows
02:27 dcook Oh, it might be me who created the error O_O
02:26 dcook I suppose my kohastructure.sql might not be quite up-to-date but getting a SQL error..
02:26 dcook Hmm... can master create a new database?