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22:36 eythian Ah right, she was in CS so probably no overlap
22:35 rangi he teaches media studies stuff
22:34 rangi sweet
22:34 eythian rangi: Ah cool. A friend has just finished her masters there.
22:30 rangi eythian: University of Amsterdam
22:14 wizzyrea how odd.
22:14 wizzyrea sorry bibliosubtitle.subtitle
22:09 wizzyrea but you can't choose that in the list of koha links
22:09 wizzyrea huh. The default framework maps it to something "bibliotitle.subtitle"
22:07 wizzyrea the 245a and 245b were both mapped to biblio.title
22:06 wizzyrea well I found what caused it in the case of my one
22:02 wizzyrea good night :)
22:02 cait have a nice day / good night all :)
22:02 wizzyrea so odd.
22:02 wizzyrea only in views where there is no xslt
22:01 cait have to sleep :)
22:01 cait hm no idea then
22:00 cait but it still shows no title?
22:00 wizzyrea it's weird because it's in biblio.title, it's in the marc, and it's in the xml
22:00 wizzyrea it's not empty
22:00 cait y
22:00 cait but the biblio.title would remain empt
22:00 cait the record would save ok
21:58 wizzyrea (because wouldn't the title not be saved at all if it wasn't?)
21:58 wizzyrea cait I can confirm that the disappearing title problem isn't to do with the 245 not mapped
21:30 wizzyrea and gone a long way
21:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16985 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Self registration verification e-mail is broken - no token at the end of the URL
21:30 cait bug 16985
21:30 wizzyrea Ah they've come a long way ^.^
21:29 eythian wizzyrea: Boulevard, Single-Wide IPA
21:28 wizzyrea eythian which beer?
21:28 tcohen hi
21:02 eythian Maybe a less dodgy one for Catalyst
21:01 rangi heh
21:01 eythian Still need to find a dodgy postcard to send to Hashigo
21:00 rangi ahh thats the one
21:00 rangi hmm lemme find out
21:00 eythian Nick
21:00 rangi and that guy who works driving the cranes at the shipyard I forget his name, was asking about you at goldings the other day
21:00 eythian Where're they lecturing?
21:00 eythian Sounds good
20:59 eythian Oh cool
20:59 rangi oh hey eythian, I have a couple of friends moving to amsterdam, one is starting a job lecturing there, I gave them your email
20:59 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0Â°C (8:30 AM NZST on July 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
20:59 rangi @wunder nzwn
20:57 eythian (on my balcony)
20:57 eythian I'm discovering the best attribute of ebooks: I can have my dim outside light on but still read from my back-lit tablet
20:55 eythian Hmm feels warmer
20:55 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 18.8Â°C (10:52 PM CEST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 13.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
20:55 eythian @wunder ams
20:53 rangi yeah, i agree with eythian
20:53 eythian I think e-mail is more formal, but everyone normally uses email.
20:39 cait thx ibeardslee
20:39 cait it seems ther eis no clear answer there - looking at some dicussions on the internet too hm
20:37 ibeardslee 'email' seems to be more common in (NZ) English
20:36 cait email vs. e-mail
20:36 cait hm native speakers around?
20:13 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
20:13 cait @later tell oleonard - could you please take a look at my buttons vs. link question on BugÂ 16861 - Translatability: Fix separated "below" in circulation.tt
20:11 drojf good night #koha
19:56 * cait waves
19:15 tcohen later #koha
19:13 huginn eythian: downloading the Perl source
19:13 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
19:13 eythian ...
19:13 eythian huginn: hello
19:13 eythian @later tell wizzyrea I have a beer from Kansas City here. Pretty nice.
19:07 tcohen drojf: xor
19:07 tcohen wizzyrea: can u please re-sign 14642? It seems that at some point the sysprefs patch got obsoleted and missed your signature.
19:07 drojf or
19:07 tcohen and
19:07 wahanui kia ora, tcohen
19:07 tcohen wizzyrea: hi
19:02 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Holderweg, Binningen, Switzerland is 26.3Â°C (8:53 PM CEST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 17.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
19:02 mveron @wunder Allschwil
17:37 drojf later #koha
17:33 khall cait: confirmed, I started with a clean db and how it's working! whew!
17:30 cait not bored at all
17:29 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 29.4Â°C (7:20 PM CEST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 15.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
17:29 drojf @wunder txl
17:29 drojf blergh its still warm
17:28 drojf you could write the followup if you are bored :P
17:27 cait so you can add old ubuntu lts to the list of OS Joubu coudl help
17:27 drojf Joubu said he would add a patch today
17:27 cait yep for both
17:26 cait it seems to install :)
17:26 cait hm let me check
17:26 drojf and use those. maybe you got them
17:25 drojf Joubu is supposed to throw out Sereal
17:25 drojf ?
17:25 drojf cait do you have libsereal-decoder-perl and -encoder-
17:25 eythian cait: get drojf to package it?
17:24 wahanui somebody said only way was using ccl, pqf, or whatever else we have through the search bar
17:24 cait only way?
17:24 cait ew
17:23 drojf cait: cpan Sereal?
17:23 cait ... but i'd still like a hint about Sereal installation... anyone?
17:23 cait and for plugins in your framework?
17:23 cait check if you have an ACQ framework maybe?
17:23 khall cait: thanks! Maybe it's a data issue for me then. Go ahead an close it with WORKSFORME if you want
17:22 cait i am testing on almost master without Sereal patch - new order, not standing order, create new record option
17:22 cait khall: form shows for me
17:20 cait i reverted it out this mornign for testing... but that doesn't seem liek a good way to do this :)
17:19 cait how do i install Sereal?
17:19 cait old ubuntu lts
17:19 cait i need help first
17:19 cait khall: hm
17:19 cait with items
17:19 cait with ites
17:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15531 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Add support for standing orders
17:19 cait but i am sure i tested adding orders with bug 15531
17:19 khall cait: basically, the item creation form never shows when adding an item to a basic
17:19 cait i can test in a moment
17:19 cait huh
17:18 khall cait: you can update the title if you want ; )
17:18 cait that sounds quite general
17:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16984 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Acquisitions broken
17:18 khall cait: can you verify I'm not crazy? Bug 16984
16:33 morgane bye
16:12 mtompset Blessings!
16:12 mveron mtompset: Same to you!
16:12 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha mveron.
16:11 mtompset I make no promises, but maybe, mveron.
16:10 mtompset sadly, I have to run. Back in... 4+ hours.
16:10 mtompset But I did eyeball that, and was wondering why you shifted the caches from one scope to another.
16:09 mtompset And it's a low priority for me to get it running.
16:09 mtompset And I don't know how to get it running.
16:09 mtompset I dont have plack running.
16:09 mtompset you mentioned plack.
16:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16955 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Internal Server Error while populating new framework
16:08 mveron mtompset: I have an easy one to sign off as well :-) Bug 16955
16:05 mtompset mveron: And if you are craving sign offs. Feel free to sort the Needs Sign off by assignee and look for me. There are several easy ones. :)
16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13796 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Alert in OPAC when renewing an item with a rental charge
16:01 mtompset Oh, and for bug 13796 ... I like Variant V best, because the random length item type is at the end. :)
15:58 mveron mtompset: I'll give it a try...
15:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16868 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Silence error t/db_dependent/Linker_FirstMatch.t
15:55 mtompset I was noticing you signed off bug 16868 before, but tcohen gave some good QA feedback which required a massive rework. Care to sign off again? :)
15:54 mveron Hi mtompset :-)
15:54 huginn mtompset: mveron was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 25 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <mveron> Yet another question for native speakers - merely an expandable multiple choice: Bug 13796
15:54 mtompset @seen mveron
15:52 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
15:51 nengard when I woke I couldn't see out the windows they were all steamed up
15:51 nengard oh look our humidity went down ....
15:51 huginn nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 29.4Â°C (10:40 AM CDT on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 24.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
15:51 nengard @wunder 78754
15:41 druthb We've been close to 40C every afternoon for the last few weeks. Cooler today, but still quite toasty. (Also humid as a steam bath.)
15:40 tcohen it is, druthb :-D
15:36 druthb 14C sounds *lovely*, tcohen.
15:32 huginn tcohen: Error: No such location could be found.
15:31 tcohen @wunder ICORDOBA26
15:31 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 13.6Â°C (12:30 PM ART on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: -3.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
15:31 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
15:21 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 27.2Â°C (10:21 AM CDT on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 26.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
15:21 druthb @wunder 77098
15:21 drojf meh
15:21 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 31.0Â°C (5:20 PM CEST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
15:21 drojf @wunder txl
14:53 tcohen (kidding)
14:53 eythian Can't at the moment, I'm at work.
14:53 tcohen I used a cryptic function name, but we can let it pass
14:52 tcohen would you sign it then? :_D
14:52 tcohen https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=53714
14:48 eythian ah, then setting permissions of that would be fine I think. Or perhaps the script itself should do it by touch(1)ing the log files before launching plack
14:23 tcohen https://snag.gy/QcE4p6.jpg
14:22 tcohen it then probably forks setting the uid of the *-koha user
14:21 tcohen and it fails to set the right ownership
14:21 eythian everything I can see in the policy is about installation, which doesn't really count.
14:21 tcohen eythian, I think it is because they are created by starman (--access-log and --error-log)
14:19 drojf that is not a bad question
14:19 * drojf throws it on the pile of debian stuff to learn
14:19 eythian why are the log files owned wrong anyway?
14:19 eythian (in this context)
14:18 eythian about what packages should and shouldn't do
14:18 drojf about koha paths?
14:18 eythian see if there's a debian policy about it
14:16 * drojf not volunteering
14:16 drojf "somebody" should write down rules what is safe to change and what not :P
14:16 drojf it depends on the folder. like the downloadable database backup has certain permissions. if you change them staff can download all config stuff too and you may not want that. that was one thing i remembered when i wondered if it's a good idea to let a koha script change permissions
14:13 eythian tcohen: hmm, it should be careful: for example, someone may want a specific ownership (e.g. for backup purposes or something) and messing with that isn't good. I'd probably go for checking and bailing out with a descriptive error message. But I'm not strongly convinced either side, fixing the perms seems not terrible too.
14:11 drojf eythian: i built some catmandu stuff again trying to learn debian rules. but atm there is all the real work that makes me not play :'(
14:11 tcohen for example koha-plack making sure the logs are owned by the right user
14:11 tcohen eythian: do you have an opinion on koha-* scripts checking for the right permissions and fixing them?
14:09 eythian It is now you've leaked it.
14:08 drojf i did not find an english translation so i guess it is an english word :P
14:08 drojf eythian: not started. i am still at trockenschwimmen.
14:07 eythian https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=robin%40kallisti.net.nz&comaint=yes <-- slowly I see :)
14:06 drojf or make the package contain everything. i vaguely remember atheia talking about something like that in berlin or greece, but it got lost in sleep deprivation
14:06 tcohen yeah, it is great to have that, the ability to blame otheres
14:06 eythian reminds me, how's the taking over of my packages in debian going, drojf
14:05 marcelr we can always blame an external dep
14:05 drojf we could write all the stuff ourselves and have a huge koha package
14:04 tcohen deps are a pain
14:04 marcelr s/it/is/
14:04 marcelr a nice game: who's fault it this ?
14:03 tcohen drojf, so its your fault
13:47 drojf so it's all bywater#s fault :P
13:47 drojf bag is not pushing on his own
13:46 drojf cait tags bugs with "dependency", i did not know until yesterday. i will check that out
13:46 tcohen that's bag's fault :-P
13:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16974 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-plack should check and fix log files permissions
13:46 drojf which brings us back to "it would be good if i knew about stuff that needs to be packaged before it is in master" :P
13:46 tcohen problem with bug 16974 is that it actually breaks people installs
13:45 tcohen if we had it packaged...
13:45 drojf on dependencies? :P
13:45 tcohen .-D
13:45 tcohen it depends
13:45 drojf but that would still have happened then in that case?
13:44 tcohen master koha-perldeps
13:44 tcohen we were talking about the importance of people using koha-perldeps
13:44 tcohen hehe
13:44 drojf yeah that shouldn't happen
13:44 tcohen so we were developing and testing against a different DBIx::Class
13:43 tcohen (if instaleld using cpan)
13:43 drojf :P
13:43 drojf what were we talking about?
13:43 tcohen Test::DBIx::Class was pulling a newer DBIx::Class
13:43 drojf you calling me forgetful?
13:43 tcohen it happened a while back
13:43 tcohen but you will eventually loose track of what you did
13:42 tcohen if you have control over what you installed, it is not a contaminated environment
13:41 drojf but how far does "install secific lib using" cpan go before it is a "contaminated dev environment"?
13:41 tcohen that's why kohadevbox was a great idea by the digibib people, you just kill it, and re-create it, just in case, only because its free and automated
13:40 tcohen in which we cannot rely for, say, QA
13:39 tcohen and the other is having a contaminated dev environment
13:39 drojf but then it's there. and forgotten :)
13:39 tcohen but one thing is to install a specific, not-yet-used lib using cpan
13:39 tcohen drojf: if they are introducing a new dep, which is not packaged, they should use cpan of course
13:38 drojf i don't know how much it would slow down development if we take away cpan
13:38 tcohen if devs don't rely on koha-perldeps, then things might work on *some* setups and fail for others, notably the end users
13:38 drojf ah
13:38 tcohen drojf: I'm talking about koha-perldeps
13:37 wahanui consistency is the hobgoblin of programmers' minds.
13:37 tcohen consistency
13:37 tcohen that's the only way we can guarantee
13:37 drojf but you can't do dev work in there ;)
13:37 tcohen yes, devs
13:37 drojf who? devs?
13:37 tcohen no matter what dev environment they choose
13:37 tcohen people should rely on master packages
13:36 tcohen sounds great .-D
13:36 drojf so we will get one
13:36 drojf we had no master packages for a while, so i assume no
13:36 drojf i only picked up the job and don't know if there was a system before
13:35 tcohen *there*
13:35 tcohen i only maintain kohadevbox, i assume the RM is in contact with you on that regard, though it coud be a communication problem
13:35 drojf i don't know if there is a way to manage it better. it#s on my list to think about it
13:34 drojf then you fix it, then i have to fix it again later
13:34 drojf this kind of problems should be reported to koha probably. because you only have it when deps are added, right?
13:33 tcohen i do it everytime someone reports problems
13:33 tcohen i'm updating kohadevbox now so it manually installs missing devs
13:33 drojf but in general we should have deps fixed before stuff is pushed. otherwise there is no reason looking into automatic master packages
13:32 drojf the one atm should go away soon
13:32 wahanui hmmm... possible is everything, but I think it's probably easy to miss something here
13:32 drojf possible
13:32 tcohen like it is now
13:32 drojf but i did not have much time to troubleshoot, otrherwise i would have kepot trying
13:32 tcohen ah. it was missing dependencies
13:31 drojf don't know. once it was 32bit problem. later it was something else, i don't remember. i may have a note somewhere. i tried before the hackfest in berlin and decided against using it then
13:31 tcohen drojf: 'what' did not work?
13:31 tcohen drojf: how is that?
13:30 tcohen it would really help troubleshooting real-life situations
13:30 drojf yes. did not work
13:30 tcohen have you tried kohadevbox guys?
13:30 drojf +think
13:30 drojf have to dissect how it is done now. i thing there is ajax stuff in there that i would skip
13:29 drojf just wanted to make sure i am not missing something :)
13:29 marcelr no there isnt yet
13:29 drojf i will, if there is none
13:29 marcelr just write the script and submit it :)
13:28 drojf marcelr: there is no way to simulate file upload on the command like yet, is there? i may have to put 1000 files in a koha instance and i wouldn't want to do that manually ;)
13:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13796 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Alert in OPAC when renewing an item with a rental charge
13:28 mveron Yet another question for native speakers - merely an expandable multiple choice: Bug 13796
13:27 marcelr first block or so iirc
13:27 marcelr yeah including partial contents
13:27 drojf marcelr: for file uploads, tmp files get a hash based on date/time or something, permanent get one based onâ€¦ name and file size?
13:26 drojf oh btw hashâ€¦
13:26 drojf yes. personalize koha. every installation gets their own hash that is put in file paths on random
13:23 marcelr we should get rid of these regular installs :-p
13:23 drojf :P
13:23 drojf "have you changed anything?" "no. no. no. no. no. no. no. no. no. no. no. no. no. no. ah yes that one thing"
13:22 drojf ha
13:22 marcelr well, normal reads with a small devinstall path change ;)
13:21 tcohen so maybe just problems with permissions on /tmp
13:20 marcelr tcohen: yes just the normal plack.psgi
13:20 tcohen fix it for good instead of the daily troubleshooting
13:20 tcohen we are supposed to be lazy
13:19 tcohen the amount of emails asking for help recovering broken systems due to permissions in zebra, makes it worth
13:19 drojf i don't know. i was just wondering if that is a normal thing to do. not opposing making things more failsafe
13:18 tcohen drojf: i think you are right, and that's because we haven't spent time on it, but worth doing
13:18 drojf yes in koha-common context we have pretty strict rules or it breaks
13:18 tcohen it is hardcoded all over the place
13:17 tcohen we don't allow them to choose the username an instance is ran
13:17 drojf i don't think we fix zebra permissions which have been a problem for a lot of people
13:17 drojf i mean, it would break koha in that context, but they could still decide :P
13:17 drojf i don't know. isn't that a thing a sysadmin likes to decide?
13:16 tcohen i'm sure we do it already
13:16 tcohen why not?
13:15 tcohen (logrotate mostly)
13:15 drojf yes. i was wondering if a koha-script should really change permissions on its own
13:15 tcohen that was causing us lots of headaches
13:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16974 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-plack should check and fix log files permissions
13:15 tcohen have you seen bug 16974?
13:15 drojf yeah maybe, i switched them to plack a while ago
13:15 tcohen well, it is
13:15 tcohen koha-plack --restart should be triggered on upgrade
13:14 drojf :D
13:14 tcohen or caching misteries
13:14 drojf caching mysteries
13:14 tcohen drojf: that's probably due to plack not reloading Koha.pm
13:14 tcohen plack-error.log showed warnings about print errors on CGI::Session::File
13:13 drojf they could not log in. the db upgrade would show, when you run it and it does nothing, you could then log in. until th enex ttime
13:13 tcohen but
13:13 tcohen running plack, memcache-top showed it was being used
13:13 drojf i wonder if my problem was memcache related. have to see if they are running it
13:13 tcohen i'm sure it isn't
13:13 drojf tcohen: ok that's not a very rare setup ;)
13:12 drojf lol
13:11 tcohen Debian 8 (amd64)
13:11 drojf tcohen: what OS?
13:11 eythian someone posted this in an internal mailing list as the proprietary equivalent of "patches welcome" when they were complaining about outlook: https://careers.microsoft.com/search.aspx#&&p2=all&p1=all&p3=all&p4=all&p0=outlook&p5=all
13:11 tcohen cait: can u fill a separate bug for the problems in patron anonymize?
13:10 eythian drojf: botsnack counting patches welcome ;)
13:08 tcohen BTW: my 'setup' is the usual apt-get install koha-common setup
13:08 drojf oh. ok
13:08 tcohen it is falling back to tmp file
13:07 tcohen it seems that C4::Context is not able to use memcached, on my setup
13:07 tcohen drojf: the intermitent logouts are related to the use of memcached for storing session information
13:06 tcohen marcelr: what psgi file are you using? this one is a clean packages install using the shipped plack.psgi
13:05 tcohen yeah, was just reading it
13:04 tcohen morning
13:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16973 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cannot upload cover images under plack
13:04 marcelr hi tcohen: see my last comment on bug 16973 please
13:01 drojf it should count the botsnacks though
12:59 drojf "factoids" is a nice word
12:57 wahanui Since Thu Jun 16 21:59:33 2016, there have been 256 modifications and 105 questions. I have been awake for 39 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes, 7 seconds this session, and currently reference 48945 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode.
12:57 eythian wahanui: status
12:57 wahanui thanks drojf :)
12:57 drojf wahanui: botsnack icecream
12:55 wahanui ouch!
12:55 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui
12:49 LibraryClaire victory is mine!
12:49 * cait hands LibraryClaire the 'native speaker on duty' badge :)
12:48 * mveron should put his glasses
12:47 mveron me/ has some vanilla icecream with an espresso on top...
12:47 * LibraryClaire runs off with icecream
12:44 LibraryClaire yay :D
12:43 drojf do we know what the ETA for ES in production is? i don't know what happened after getting stuff in for 16.05
12:43 * mveron sends some ice cream to LibraryCLaire and everybody else :-)
12:43 LibraryClaire yup
12:42 mveron LibraryClaire: Thanks a lot. Can you comment on the bug please?
12:41 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
12:41 marcelr @later tell tcohen "hm you also refer to upload-cover-image.pl; will have a look"
12:41 drojf hi mveron
12:41 * mveron waves to drojf
12:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Translatability: Avoid [%%-problem and fix related sentence splitting in catalogue/detail.tt
12:39 mveron Bug 16871
12:38 * mveron thinks: copy paste paste or copy paste copy paste, that's the question
12:38 marcelr it is a security bug
12:38 drojf i am and i don't think it is the right bug
12:38 LibraryClaire *since
12:38 LibraryClaire I would go for 'waiting at LIBRARY sing DATE'
12:38 LibraryClaire apparently i'm not authorised to see that bug
12:38 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
12:38 marcelr @later tell tcohen "we should still refactor the older code in picture-upload and move it to the Upload module"
12:37 mveron :-)
12:37 mveron Sorry, ...vs "waiting since DATE at LIBRARY"
12:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16878 is not accessible.
12:37 mveron LibraryClaire: Related to Bug 16878
12:37 drojf if there is any
12:37 drojf i don't see the difference
12:36 LibraryClaire mveron: are those the same?
12:35 mveron hi marcelr :-)
12:35 marcelr hi mveron
12:35 marcelr hi #koha
12:35 mveron what is correct?
12:35 mveron "waiting at LIBRARY since DATE" vs. "waiting at LIBRARY since DATE"
12:34 mveron Advice by native speakers needed:
12:33 mveron hi LibraryClaire :-)
12:32 LibraryClaire hi mveron
12:30 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 28.0Â°C (2:20 PM CEST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 15.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
12:30 mveron @wunder Allschwil
12:30 mveron Good afternnon / daytime #koha
10:39 cait np :) just checking i got it right
10:38 LibraryClaire oh, yes sorry. removing from the borrower's account
10:38 cait discharge = return?
10:37 LibraryClaire where I worked before, the units didn't discharge exceptions, here they do
10:36 LibraryClaire and I believe they don't necessarily get discharged, the user is asked to put it in a certain bin or the sortation unit feeds it into the exceptions
10:36 LibraryClaire well, we have it set so certain items or thing with messages etc get put in exceptions
10:35 cait I will ask them to check i guess
10:35 cait maybe it can be used to deny checkout/return too?
10:35 cait so it's something you configure in the self check software
10:35 cait ah - that would make sense
10:34 LibraryClaire cait, i think you set the media type so you can assign sorting rules on the RFID units?
10:27 cait the ones you set in the itemtype
10:25 cait what are the sip media types used for?
10:25 cait hm could the self check software block it maybe?
10:24 khall hmm, I don't think so. At least not that I can recall. It wouldn't be a super difficult feature to add though
10:23 cait maybe with the sip media type setting?
10:23 cait ?
10:23 cait is there a way to block returning specific items at the self check
10:23 cait a sip question :)
10:23 khall what's up?
10:22 cait khall: around?
10:21 eythian (it's not.)
10:21 eythian according to my watch, it's raining.
10:21 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 24.3Â°C (12:10 PM CEST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 13.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
10:21 eythian @wunder ams
10:00 * LibraryClaire puts on a scarf
09:59 cait I'd take some of that :)
09:59 LibraryClaire I actually feel almost cold...
09:59 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 20.0Â°C (10:50 AM BST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
09:59 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
09:59 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 24.7Â°C (11:58 AM CEST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 1.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
09:59 cait @wunder Konstanz
09:58 cait same here
09:57 drojf feels more like 35
09:57 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Germany is 25.4Â°C (11:00 AM CEST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 19.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
09:57 drojf @wunder txl
09:57 drojf hello again
09:56 LibraryClaire hi cait :)
09:56 * cait waves
08:03 drojf haha. that sounds like data from openweathermap ;)
08:02 eythian drojf: wherever my watch gets its weather info from concludes that a day that has any percentage of rain chance at any point must be a rainy day. So it can be 25 and blue sky, but it still says rain.
08:00 drojf that's me ;)
08:00 LibraryClaire Tuesday optimism
08:00 LibraryClaire lol
08:00 drojf everything turns grey when you get old
08:00 drojf when i was young, "clear" meant blue sky
07:59 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 24.0Â°C (9:50 AM CEST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 17.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:59 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:59 eythian ideal bike to work weather today.
07:58 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 20.8Â°C (9:52 AM CEST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 17.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
07:58 eythian @wunder ams
07:50 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 18.0Â°C (8:20 AM BST on July 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:50 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
07:38 gaetan_B hello
07:37 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:16 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
07:16 drojf @later tell tcohen about logouts, i had an instance go back to webinstaller all the time after the 3.22.8 upgrade. it stopped after a reboot (production and test server). have not seen it elsewhere
07:15 drojf morning even
07:15 drojf monrning #koha
07:03 morgane hi !
06:58 alex_a bonjour
06:55 fridolin hie
06:01 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:01 dcook @later tell eythian Actually, I just remembered. Curious about how you handle your Perl dependencies at work. Whether you use packages, carton, cpan, etc...
06:01 dcook Oh... now I do...
06:01 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:01 dcook @later tell eythian I can't even remember what I wanted to talk about now :)
06:01 * cait just reverts it for now
06:01 dcook No idea :)
06:01 * dcook waves to cait
05:57 cait i treid libdata-serializer-sereal-perl - but was not found
05:56 cait how do i install Sereal in the old Ubuntu LTS?
05:56 cait huh
00:51 wizzyrea irma is that a wrong channel?