Time Nick Message 03:07 mtompset Have a great day, 24 hour period, #koha. 03:09 wizzyrea @later tell eythian you are one clever guy. Thanks for being so clever. 03:09 huginn` wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 05:08 mveron-away quit 06:23 * magnuse WAVES 06:24 magnuse @wunder boo 06:24 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 13.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 17, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling). 06:24 magnuse double digits! 06:28 * LibraryClaire waves 06:28 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 06:28 huginn` LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 14.0°C (7:20 AM BST on June 17, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 06:48 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha 06:50 mveron @wunder Allschwil 06:50 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 14.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on June 17, 2016). 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Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 06:53 reiveune hello 06:55 alex_a bonjour 06:58 fridolin bonjour 07:47 bag . 07:47 magnuse , 07:47 drojf .. 07:47 bag :D 07:47 magnuse \m/ 07:47 drojf :P 08:47 marcelr hi #koha 08:56 bag heya marcelr 08:56 wahanui marcelr is talking with tcohen about it 08:56 bag heh 08:57 marcelr hi bag early heh 08:57 bag I think it’s more really late 08:57 marcelr ok you are right 08:57 bag I’m never right - I just am tired ;) 08:57 marcelr :) 08:59 magnuse bag: go get some sleep! 09:00 bag nah I am really happy being awake right now - I am studying and learning things that I don’t normally have the time for 09:12 magnuse yay for that! 09:12 magnuse learning++ 09:15 bag Plus I get to hangout with my main man magnuse 09:16 magnuse lol 09:25 bag ok magnuse I think I found the end of the internet… nothing left to learn, so I best go to sleep 09:25 bag have THE awesome day magnuse and marcelr 09:25 marcelr same bag 11:08 francharb morning 11:24 druthb @wunder 77098 11:24 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 26.1°C (6:24 AM CDT on June 17, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Saturday... 11:30 druthb o/ 11:37 oleonard Hi #koha 11:41 arnold Hello #koha! 11:42 oleonard Hi arnold 11:43 arnold I need to make sure that the status of each book can only be unique. It should not be both Withdrawn and Lost, for example. 11:43 arnold Is there any way to enforce this, oleonard ? 11:45 oleonard Not that I know of arnold. Koha isn't designed to work that way. 11:46 arnold So if I generate a report of damaged books, it will include books that are withdrawn too? 11:47 arnold (ie withdrawn and damaged) 11:47 oleonard arnold: If you're talking about reports you can select whatever you want. damaged but not withdrawn, damaged and withdrawn, etc. 11:47 arnold I see. 11:47 oleonard That's just a matter of composing the right SQL 11:48 oleonard But it doesn't prevent your staff from changing the statuses 11:49 arnold Can I just make it invalid to set a status of Damaged and Withdrawn for the staff using jQuery? 11:51 oleonard I'm sure that's possible 11:53 arnold I don't know jQuery. First I tried to reset all other statuses if one status is changed. But it did not work. Can you help me with it? I'll post the code... 11:54 arnold This is what I tried: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17429523/ 12:04 marcelr khall: please check my comment on bug 15006; thx 12:04 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15006 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Signed Off , Need to distinguish client timeout from login timeout 12:05 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "arnold try this" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1 12:13 arnold oleonard: Did you test it, it does not work for me! 12:14 oleonard arnold: Are you adding it as part of a $(document).ready() block in the intranetuserjs preference? I shouldn't have assumed that. 12:15 arnold Yes I am. 12:16 arnold There is no Authorized Value "0" for any of the fields. oleonard could that be the reason? 12:17 oleonard Maybe so. I thought 0 was the default, but perhaps it is blank in your system and not mine 12:18 arnold Let me try "". If it is very difficult, can I at least alert the staff that it is not permitted and not submit it? (validate) 12:21 arnold oleonard: Nope, the blank did not work either. 12:21 oleonard You're working from catalogue/moredetail.pl right? 12:22 arnold yes, http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/moredetail.pl?biblionumber=1&itemnumber=1#item1 12:22 oleonard Please paste the contents of your intranetuserjs preference 12:23 arnold http://paste.ubuntu.com/17430015/ oleonard 12:25 oleonard What exactly isn't working arnold? 12:26 arnold I am still able to set the status as both "Lost" and "Damaged". 12:27 oleonard arnold: The jQuery is working correctly, but it must be more complicated than simply blanking the hidden inputs. I don't know offhand what is going on in the script so I'm not sure what to suggest. 12:28 arnold oleonard: Since you know jQuery, can you be kind enough to write a script that will simply alert the user that it is in violation and not submit the unwanted change. 12:28 oleonard arnold: Sorry I don't have time to do that 12:29 arnold ie, force him to unset "Damaged" and then set "Lost" manually? 12:30 arnold oleonard: is it very complicated, or do you think someone who has no Javascript experience like me can get it done? 12:31 oleonard arnold: It doesn't hurt to try. If you get stuck then you can seek help then. 12:34 drojf every person i have to call today is unavailable. why do telephones exist at all? 12:35 drojf "lets have a phone call, its much easier than sending an email and waiting for half an hour" 12:35 drojf yeah right, only that i wait half an hour to have that phone call :P 12:35 oleonard drojf: When I have to call someone and it turns out they're not available I feel like the universe has given me a precious gift. 12:35 drojf hahaha 12:35 drojf yes i know that feeling 12:36 drojf [off] but if you want to get clients, it does not work that way :/ 12:36 oleonard [off] Understood. 12:37 liw oleonard+++ 12:43 oleonard Here's a W3C constraint and/or admonition I hadn't heard before: 12:43 oleonard "The first child option element of a select element with a required attribute and without a multiple attribute, and whose size is “1â€, must have either an empty value attribute, or must have no text content" 13:05 mveron Hi again #koha 13:07 mveron It would be great if somebody would have time fo a Sign-off: Bug 16747 - Fix regression in patron card creator (patron image) 13:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16747 critical, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Fix regression in patron card creator (patron image) 13:07 mveron The Bug makes the patron card creator unusable (software error) 13:07 oleonard I can take a look mveron 13:08 mveron Thanks, oleonard 13:15 matts Hey #koha, my pics of the KohaCon are there : http://pub.veggie.fr/biblibre/2016_05_29-06_06_KohaCon_Thessaloniki_biblibre.zip 13:24 LibraryClaire matts nice :) 13:24 matts :) 13:34 mveron oleonard++ for Bug 16747 13:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16747 critical, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Fix regression in patron card creator (patron image) 13:36 drojf matts: thanks for sharing! 13:36 drojf i could go back right now… 13:37 matts It sure was nice ! 13:37 drojf yep 13:37 drojf how is the weather in marseille in october? 13:39 drojf october 9,9--17,8° says the internet 13:39 drojf warmer than march actually 13:42 matts I don't live there so I don't really know 13:42 * ashimema dances around the room at getting another shibboleth up and running 13:42 matts But in my experience, it really depends on the wind 13:45 LibraryClaire yay ashimema 13:47 drojf openldap and koha on one machine, yay or nay? 13:53 eythian drojf: should be OK if you only have the one. 13:54 eythian @later tell wizzyrea what'd I do now? 13:54 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded. 13:55 drojf eythian: crazily expensive server constraints. unless it would be a very bad idea for some reason, a second server is not an option. (i guess it would mean no for the whole project) 14:08 ashimema man I have a love hate relationship with UKFederation.. 14:08 ashimema makes settig up new customers who are already part of the federation a doddle 14:09 ashimema but also means restarting the shibd service (which is required any time you make a config change, or add a new customer) take around 8 minutes (when your lucky) and a very well spec'd server 14:09 ashimema parsing hundreds of lines of xml and validating thousands of certificates is time consuming it would seem ;) 14:29 oleonard Oh hey look I introduced a bug in 2011 and just found it today :( 14:35 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16502: Replace a few other ok-calls by is-calls <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8204024f1c21102c0649dec70d10398131aab953> / Bug 16502: Adjust test for GetPlugins <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ad5770786c6646ce68ffdfec9080645fc25772e> / Bug 16502: Add additional test to Plugins.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=959d69fa0 14:38 magnuse oleonard++ for finding it 14:44 * cait waves 14:45 LibraryClaire hi cait 14:45 cait hi LibraryClaire :) 14:45 cait [off] just got back from my brother's wedding :) 14:45 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16607: Remove CPL/MPL from two unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d9c270886b547c1c4973cef3c20f18e6998530a> / Bug 16500: [QA Follow-up] Catch warning if branch MPL already exists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63fbb336bd90991a8b86ca6fe54d5a069c129373> / Bug 16500: Catch two warns in TestBuilder.t with warning_like <http://git.koha-community.org/ 14:45 LibraryClaire :) 14:46 drojf hi cait 14:46 cait hi drojf 14:48 druthb cait! 14:48 druthb drojf! 14:48 cait druthb: ! 14:48 drojf druthb! 14:55 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16594: Fix obvious QA issues from bug 11371 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=64efee0b5cc975b3b80db1841321355eeb39fb48> / Bug 16594: Orders by fund report has wrong link to css and other issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4394d88eaeff5df6bf0a28ec3e6faed853b202b> / Bug 16717: Improve variable naming <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=c 15:21 reiveune bye 15:25 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16127 - Add discharge menu item to patron toolbar <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=981302a47322857b080107a71c47db2345ef5286> 15:39 khall oleonard: can you take a look at the followup I posted on bug 16148 and let me know what you think? 15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16148 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Revised layout and behavior of marc modification template management 15:39 oleonard Sure 15:40 khall thanks! 15:42 oleonard Record matching rules -> Admin, MARC modification templates -> Tools. Confusing. 15:45 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16543 - Make edit and delete links styled buttons in patron attribute types admin... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae4be45444dd8e6a65dc7170cfc43c60de328f38> / Bug 16541 - Make edit and delete links styled buttons in cities administration <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51a11d279457f97ac1b30e99d1af38a344d01725> / Bug 16456: Reintroduce wording "Delete t 15:46 oleonard khall: I'm fine with it. I did something similar in my patch for Bug 16421 15:46 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move hold edit actions into dropdown menu 15:47 khall excellent! if you would countersign that I can push it! I really like your improvements! 15:47 khall I'll see if I can s/o that other patch for you as well 15:49 oleonard khall: That'd be great. I'm looking for more opinions about whether it's even a good idea. 15:49 oleonard khall: One question: Why the 'aria-hidden="true"'? 15:50 khall oleonard: that shouldn't be there, I started with a copypasta from the FA website, I forgot to remove that 15:51 khall oleonard: yeah, I'm looking at it now. It does make moving a hold a number of places up or down a bit more cumbersome, but it's also more self-explanitory. I'm torn 15:51 khall I'll fix that patch oleonard 15:52 oleonard I think pianohacker mentioned in IRC the idea of using a JS drag and drop reordering thing instead, but I don't think he was volunteering :P 15:52 khall yeah, I was thinking ajax would be the real solution 15:53 khall ping him about it, if he's not volunteering I may take a crack at it. 15:53 khall I wasn't thinking the full drag and drop, but that really sounds like the way to go 15:54 khall assuming it's not too messy to code 15:54 khall oleonard: my followup should be fixed now! 15:55 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16672: Fix typo unqiue vs unique <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fac12d7f1ecfd44f9288aea6cf54efecc883b84> / Bug 16672 [QA Followup] - Convert negative days to positive days <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a98a3bea2a5e98eda794e0ed25ab03fa57f9d85f> / Bug 16672 - Add ability to remove expired holidays from special_holidays <http://git.koha-community.org/gi 15:59 oleonard Oh hey khall look what we include by default in our build of jQueryUI: https://jqueryui.com/sortable/ :) 15:59 khall oohh, I like ; ) 16:00 khall oleonard: file a bug with a link to that so I don't forget, then send it my way ; ) 16:02 mveron Have a nice weekend #koha 16:05 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16693: Remove reserve/renewscript.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c92d0823f8b79c1bb8f01b4a429961e5f3e5574c> 16:16 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16148 [Follow-up] - Use Font Awesome for arrows instead of images <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a96d496c9b8860e493f2d6993ba033b13b8b8b80> / Bug 16148: Fix submit button text <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fd3170296aec71d9a3d97937d27c93c299033ee> / Bug 16148 [Follow-up] Revised layout and behavior of marc modification template manag... <http://git.koh 16:16 mahmud hello 16:16 mahmud is there anyone here 16:17 mahmud i am new to the koha i have installed this one and found some problem that i can not open a patron 16:20 mahmud any one listening my voice please response 16:24 mah hello 16:24 mah any one here watching my text 16:33 oleonard Whoops, missed mahmud after suggesting coming to #koha :| 17:02 oleonard https://twitter.com/MyACPL/status/743851124692779008 18:36 tcohen hi 18:37 oleonard Sorry tcohen there is no one here 18:38 tcohen hi oleonard, why is that? 18:38 oleonard It's already the weekend for most I think 18:41 nengard i'm here 18:41 drojf i'm not 18:46 oleonard If nengard were really here she would have commented on my Twitter link earlier, so clearly she is not! 18:46 tcohen well, it is here (holiday) but just wanted to say hi :_D 18:46 * nengard hardly looks at twitter ... 18:47 nengard what link ... I don't see it oleonard 18:47 oleonard https://twitter.com/MyACPL/status/743851124692779008 18:47 nengard omg - i can't tell ... is that a puppy???? 18:47 nengard oh i had to click 18:47 nengard it's a puppy!!!!!! 18:48 oleonard Our new Pomeranian puppy came to visit me at work today 18:48 nengard he's like the revers of my angel 18:48 nengard reverse 18:48 nengard in colors 18:48 nengard and poms and shelties are cousins 18:56 oleonard In the picture he's working on Bug 16763 18:56 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16763 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove the use of "onclick" from record matching rules form 18:57 nengard awww 18:59 oleonard Okay now it's just you and tcohen, nengard. Have a good weekend. 18:59 nengard you too 19:04 tcohen this is great 19:04 tcohen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfudXO_vzWk 19:05 tcohen awesome! 19:05 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, tcohen 19:07 druthb Awesome! 19:07 wahanui That'll be €1 for the awesome jar, druthb 19:07 druthb hey! 19:08 druthb where'm I gonna get a *euro*? 19:14 drojf druthb: try marseille 19:14 druthb Long commute, to get something for the jar. 19:15 druthb I think I still have a Jordianian dinar coin. 19:15 druthb *digs around, desposits the coin* 21:07 nikki Hello people! 21:09 nikki I am trying to import patrons to my new library from a csv file. I tried importing the same data twice. This is what i get at the end of the first import: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17451853/ 21:10 nikki So I am guessing that the first attempt to import succeeded. But I don't see any patrons! 21:12 nikki never mind my previous question. 21:12 nikki I fixed it 21:13 nikki Now the problem is that I have imported the sample biblio data from a MARC file. I need to add barcodes to them to make them available. 21:14 nikki So after quick googling I decided to export the MARC data as a CSV file, insert the barcode, and then import it back. 21:14 nikki But the only problem is that the csv file is empty. I don't know how to select all the items. 21:15 nikki I just left all fields blank. What should I be actually be doing ? 21:18 kidclamp Hi nikki 21:18 nikki hey 21:18 kidclamp when you say the csv is empty, you mean nothing is exported? 21:18 nikki yes, 0 bytes 21:18 nikki so maybe I need to set a csv profile? 21:19 kidclamp and probably the eaisest is to edit the marc file you imported initially and add items record 21:19 kidclamp via marcedit 21:19 kidclamp that could be, importing csv is going to be tricker than importing marc afaik 21:20 nikki I see, so is there a way to assign barcodes to all my books? 21:20 drojf you can import biblio data as csv? what did i miss? 21:20 kidclamp you can convert csv to marc then import that 21:21 kidclamp I don't think you can import csv directly 21:21 kidclamp 'trickier than marc' was probably a generous statement :-) 21:21 drojf ok ;) 21:21 kidclamp and nikki - do your biblio records have items? 21:22 kidclamp i.e. are we talking records without items or items without barcodes? 21:23 nikki records without items. please don't shout at me for not being clear about this before, I just started using koha! 21:23 kidclamp hehe, no shouting at all 21:23 kidclamp just trying to make sure I am not confused and saying the wrong thing 21:24 nikki alright, so say the right thing ;-) 21:24 kidclamp you can either catalog items through koha 21:25 kidclamp or add items to the file you used for import and then redo the import 21:25 kidclamp adding items = adding a 952 marc field 21:25 kidclamp with at least $a and $p 21:26 kidclamp more info on koha holdings field here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_(9xx) 21:26 nikki so how do I add bc to the field in linux? can I use libreoffice? 21:27 kidclamp marcedit is the only way I know of off hand to edit marc and add items 21:27 kidclamp you 'can' install via mono on linux 21:27 nikki Let me install it, wait a moment 21:27 kidclamp or you can run it in a windows vm 21:28 kidclamp it doesn't work perfectly 21:28 kidclamp adding the items via mysql trickery is your other option 21:28 kidclamp but after that I am out of ideas 21:28 kidclamp http://marcedit.reeset.net/marcedit-linux-installation-instructions 21:29 Karl_H there are programmatic ways to edit marc as well 21:29 kidclamp good point 21:30 Karl_H pymarc is a python library, I think perl has a library too 21:31 Karl_H marcedit is probably most user friendly though 21:32 drojf you can manipulate marc data with catmandu 21:33 drojf https://github.com/LibreCat/Catmandu-MARC 21:33 nikki I am almost done installing marcedit. If it fails, I will get it done with pymarc. 21:34 Karl_H this is kind of a tangent, but isn't catmandu being used for elasticsearch somehow? 21:38 drojf in koha, yes 21:38 Karl_H neat, I thought I heard that name somewhere 21:38 drojf if you check the link you may find rangi and eythian in the list of contributors ;) 21:39 nikki Can you guyz help me use marcedit? Firstly it is asking me to set default programs. 21:40 nikki which one should I use for assigning values to 952 $a and $p in bulk? 21:45 nikki Jow do I use mareditor to det it done, kidclamp_away ? 21:48 Karl_H do you have some way of matching up the barcodes with the marc files? 21:48 nikki I dont mind starin from 1 and incrementing 21:48 Karl_H delimited text translator should allow you to convert from csv if that's what you've got 21:49 nikki I have a mrc file, and I need to add items. 21:49 nikki basically how do I assign values to 952 $a and $p in bulk 21:50 Karl_H well first things first, you can use marctools to break the marc file into something that you can more easily edit 21:50 nikki okey, so to csv? 21:51 Karl_H yeah, convert to csv 21:51 * eythian almost wants to write a free software marcedit type thing. Except I'd have to care for it forever. 21:52 Karl_H create a new column in like, excel or whatever. Set the header row to 952a if that's the field you want to insert 21:52 Karl_H create the barcode values for each of your records 21:52 Karl_H save and then convert back to marc 21:52 Karl_H that's how I'd probably do it 21:53 nikki That;s what I am thinking too, but which tool to use? delimited text translator 21:54 Karl_H yeah, delimited text translator 21:55 Karl_H either that or marc tools would probably have a MARC>CSV option in there somewhere 21:56 eythian It's extremely hard to make a proper CSV<->MARC converter thing with full fidelity. The formats are too different. 21:57 eythian Not impossible, mind. Maybe I should try it. 21:58 drojf its easy to do csv to marc in catmandu 21:58 drojf well, depends on your csv :P 21:59 nikki Karl_H: So what is the output file? The file to which i want to add 952p? 22:00 Karl_H output file is the file you're going to save the csv data to 22:00 Karl_H nikki, I wish you luck, but I gotta go 22:00 Karl_H have a great weekend everybody 22:00 nikki thanks for everything! 22:02 eythian drojf: you can do one way conversions fine, but going back to MARC is hard. 22:02 drojf you want to go from marc to csv to marc? 22:02 drojf why? 22:02 eythian Eg determining what tags should be grouped and which shouldn't 22:03 eythian So you can export, add barcodes, import 22:03 drojf dont import before you add the barcodes. problem solved :P 22:04 drojf or import ite data to merge. but in this case, there is marc data available 22:04 drojf *item 22:18 nikki I tried something, and it did not seem to work 22:18 nikki have worked*