Time  Nick          Message
22:32 drojf         meh
22:00 drojf1        n0pe l0l
21:59 drojf1        /msg test bla
17:26 Tylathos      paased
17:24 drojf         test
17:01 LibraryClaire Basically it's warm and kinda cloudy and i might have got sunburn earlier
17:00 LibraryClaire Meh
17:00 huginn`       LibraryClaire: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
17:00 LibraryClaire @wunder Dunsfold, uk
17:00 LibraryClaire Seems so
17:00 eythian       OK, you're nowhere
17:00 huginn`       eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
17:00 eythian       @wunder dunsfold, uk
16:59 huginn`       eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
16:59 eythian       @wunder dunfold, uk
16:59 LibraryClaire Hehehe
16:59 huginn`       LibraryClaire: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
16:58 LibraryClaire @wunder Alfold, uk
16:58 huginn`       eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 20.2°C (6:50 PM CEST on June 11, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
16:58 eythian       @wunder ams
16:58 eythian       LibraryClaire: also sounds like a good afternoon
16:58 LibraryClaire If I knew where I was I'd check the weather
16:58 huginn`       drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 21.0°C (6:50 PM CEST on June 11, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
16:58 drojf         @wunder berlin, germany
16:57 drojf         drinking beer soon
16:56 LibraryClaire Drinking prosecco now
16:55 LibraryClaire I've been at a vineyard
16:55 drojf         oh. nice
16:54 eythian       Spent the afternoon on a rented boat pottering around the canals. Recommended.
16:54 drojf         not much
16:54 LibraryClaire Waddup
16:53 drojf         hi LibraryClaire
16:53 * drojf       is making friends on the maling list
15:51 Tylathos      drojf: package making is fun :D
15:44 drojf         Tylathos: i will be doing the koha debian packages soon. also what Joubu and liw say :D
15:38 liw           packging is fun and usually easy! it's a wholesome, healthy hobby for all ages! (and I may be a /little/ biased)
15:30 Tylathos      Ah ok :D
15:30 Joubu         Tylathos: drojf loves packaging stuffs
15:29 Tylathos      drojf: And why did you done this?
15:26 huginn`       eythian: The operation succeeded.
15:26 eythian       @later tell cait sorry, on a canal
15:26 drojf         (but that is without marc and elasticsearch)
15:24 drojf         done testpackaging catmandu 1.02. wasn't hat bad. 5 dependencies to build for testing, one of them won' be fun
13:56 rocio         enjoy!
13:56 cait          have to go - cya later!
13:56 rocio         ah cool!
13:56 cait          just the cafe in the bookstore x :)
13:56 cait          hm doesn't have a name
13:56 rocio         what is the cafe called?
13:56 rocio         not so busy, no worries. I'm just importing bibs at the moment!
13:55 cait          one of my favourite places in Konstanz :)
13:55 rocio         that sounds lovely!
13:54 cait          ah busy - good luck!
13:54 rocio         oooo nice!!
13:54 rocio         I'm doing well cait! sorry I missed that. It's migration weekend for me
13:54 cait          working on my order e-mail feature in my favourite bookstore cafe :)
13:54 cait          thx!
13:53 rocio         That makes sense to me!
13:53 cait          rocio: does the sentence above make sense for an error message?
13:50 cait          how are you doing? :)
13:48 rocio         morning cait!
13:44 cait          eythian: proper english? This vendor has no contact selected for sending orders to or is missing an e-mail address.
13:44 cait          :)
13:44 * cait        waves at rocio )
13:22 Tylathos      -.-' wrong tab closed :D
13:18 cait          eythian++ drojf++
13:12 drojf         thanks
13:12 drojf         oh that sounds like a good idea
13:11 eythian       You could make a local repo with the other packages and add that to your environment
13:11 eythian       To start with, I wouldn't, but it's good to at some point to ensure you have the dependencies declared right
13:10 drojf         should i build stuff like catmandu in pbuilder too? i will probably lose track of what i installed myself soon otherwise. or i would really have to do all deps one by one and wait until they are in testing, but that would take ages if there is a lot
13:03 drojf         packaging nightmare. yay
13:03 eythian       Debian policy makes for good bedtime reading
12:58 eythian       Read up on how Debian compares versions, too. I tried to set it up so that if the package existed in Debian, that would be preferred over the Koha one
12:56 drojf         yeah i see
12:55 eythian       Etc
12:55 eythian       That's why there's ~1koha1 on the versions
12:54 drojf         ah ok
12:53 eythian       (you can't have a package with an identical version string in multiple pockets at once apparently.)
12:53 eythian       I scripted that
12:53 drojf         ok
12:52 drojf         (also they are not the same as debian releases, so i wonder if that quesion makes sense at all)
12:52 eythian       No, I kept all pockets the same except for the Koha version, so all that's needed is changing the version and pocket name in the changelog
12:51 drojf         or just copy it over and see if it needs something else?
12:51 drojf         thats the next question. "somewhere" (probably the wiki) i read we have packages for all three release pockets. so do you set up three vms for that, three pbuilder environments or how does that work?
12:50 eythian       (sometimes it's not easy though, when things need newer versions of other things.)
12:50 eythian       Good plan
12:50 eythian       Also, backporting from testing is usually easy
12:50 drojf         but i have to do some packaging or i will forget everything
12:50 drojf         just playing with that, no really starting yet
12:49 eythian       Probably will be.
12:49 eythian       Good luck :-)
12:49 drojf         but that was in jessie, i think. may be better in testing
12:49 eythian       Erk
12:49 drojf         that had probably 20
12:49 drojf         well, 40 including catmandu-sru which is the true nightmare
12:48 drojf         hm yeah i built like 40 packages for catmandu 1.02. but that was not suitable for submission
12:47 eythian       If you remember dependency hell from the early days of Linux, you'll get flashbacks.
12:46 eythian       Pretty much, work your way from the bottom.
12:45 drojf         i wonder… when i want to build things like catmandu, with a lot of dependencies… i would do that in testing, install all deps that are in testing and then start building everything that is missing and hand that in?
12:43 eythian       drojf: ^
12:43 eythian       Yeah, sup?
12:36 drojf         eythian: around?
12:24 Tylathos      Yes it's really funny, becaus most of the staff is older than 50 :D
12:23 drojf         sounds like a fun project :D
12:22 Tylathos      I probably would do it, but they want to make a sort out of many books. And it would be about 15k records
12:21 drojf         depending on how much records you have, it may or may not be worth it
12:21 drojf         you could try to convert whatever you get out of it
12:21 Tylathos      no we cannot export to marc21 and its called ps-biblio
12:20 Tylathos      and the main problem is, it used an non standardized format to save the books :D so we got to make a completly new inventory -.-'
12:19 drojf         i keep finding more and more i never heard of. what is yours called? can you export marc21? (probably not)
12:18 drojf         lol. possible. there are a lot of old systems around
12:18 Tylathos      we got a system, which is probably programmed befor i was born :D
12:17 drojf         do you have a system so far? or will you have to migrate from a card catalogue or excel or something similar?
12:15 drojf         oh my vm is still set to greek repositories. lol. and i wonder why it's so slow
12:15 Tylathos      OK thats now a hard question :D Becaus the library once was a branch office, for 4 year it's taken over by the club. So we get money from the city, but are nonprofit, and we are located in Maichingen ( Sindelfingen )
12:13 drojf         whats the library? (if it's ok to ask). always curious to see how koha is spreading in germany
12:12 Tylathos      My main job is working by a labor union :D
12:11 drojf         cool
12:11 Tylathos      Well :D i'm working for a public libary which is managed by a club and is nonprofit
12:09 drojf         what kind of library are you working on? i guess it's not your main job when you do it after hours/ on weekends?
12:07 Tylathos      found it :D
12:07 Tylathos      ah i foun dit :D
12:06 Tylathos      ok i will look at it :)
12:06 drojf         like allow at all, allow with fines, etc.
12:06 drojf         have you checked the sysprefs? search for renewal, there are a lot of options that may prevent it
12:03 Tylathos      yes :)
12:02 drojf         have you set circulation rules?
12:02 Tylathos      In the staff interface i see it to where i can renew. But at the OPAC, where the user log in and then can search, i don't see this option
11:59 drojf         you can of course renew from the opac. if you are logged in and you have circulation rules that allow it
11:55 drojf         what are you trying to do?
11:49 Tylathos      Is it possible to active the renew option in the opac?
11:48 Tylathos      Just got a new question :D
11:45 drojf         moin Tylathos
11:43 Tylathos      Hey :)