Time Nick Message 00:04 * dcook waves 00:14 dcook oleonard++ 00:14 dcook I honestly don't know what Koha would do without Owen... 00:14 * dcook hopes Owen is immortal and never decides to leave Koha :p 01:50 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 01:50 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 8.9°C (10:50 PM ART on June 05, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 03:30 dcook @wunder syd 03:30 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (1:06 PM AEST on June 06, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Falling). 04:37 dcook Oh my... I often wondered how magical Perl as.. 04:38 dcook *** Error in `perl': free(): invalid pointer: 0x00000000015cc33d *** 04:38 dcook ======= Backtrace: ========= 04:46 dcook Yata... figured out a solution 04:49 dcook "This saves one from getting memory violations, if there are nodes still referred to from the Perl level." 04:49 dcook Yasss 06:09 drojf morning #koha 06:25 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 06:25 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 18.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 06:43 reiveune hello 06:48 LibraryClaire Morning 06:52 ashimema mornin' #koha 06:53 LibraryClaire Hey ashimema :) 06:53 ashimema how was kohacon LibraryClaire? 06:53 LibraryClaire Awesome :) 06:53 ashimema :) 06:54 ashimema I thought you'd enjoy it 06:54 ashimema hope they all looked after you :) 06:54 ashimema knowing cait and gang.. I imagine you fitted right in ;) 06:54 LibraryClaire Yes, everyone was lovely :) 06:55 LibraryClaire They let me tag along ;) 06:55 LibraryClaire Hah! 06:55 ashimema I miss them all.. not seen any of them in person for ages now :'( 06:56 LibraryClaire :( 06:56 ashimema next year perhaps 06:56 LibraryClaire Marseille? 06:56 wahanui Marseille is a very contrasted city, some parts are gorgeous, other parts are... well... not so 06:56 fridolin hie tehre 06:56 ashimema or marseille :) 06:57 LibraryClaire :) 06:57 ashimema mostly depends on timing and kids these days.. if it ends up clashing with a school hol I'm stuffed 06:57 LibraryClaire I've no idea when the autumn half term lands 06:57 ashimema but I don't think Marseille usually does.. I can't really remember 06:57 drojf marseille used to be in march, so everything is different now ;) 06:58 LibraryClaire Hi drojf 06:58 ashimema though Rangi and gang likely won't be there.. which means I still miss people 06:58 drojf guten morgen LibraryClaire 06:58 LibraryClaire True 06:58 ashimema Hey drojf 06:58 ashimema how did your hackfest go? 06:58 drojf ashimema: i will do more berlin eventually 06:58 drojf it was good 06:58 ashimema sounded like a great success by all accounts 06:58 ashimema :) 06:58 drojf at least nobody said something else so far 06:59 ashimema Berlin would be good.. I've not yet managed to visit berlin.. been on my hit list for a while... only driven around it a few times of the way to or from elsewhere 07:00 LibraryClaire Same, still not mafe it there 07:00 ashimema did the liw talks go down well? 07:00 drojf there are a number of dev people that would like to come to berlin, getting NZ and US will not be so easy without a real kohacon though 07:00 ashimema Berlin and caits home town (to visit cait of course) are on my Germany list at the moment 07:01 ashimema indeed 07:01 ashimema right.. i best get the girls to school 07:01 LibraryClaire Good luck 07:01 ashimema be back in cira 30 mins 07:02 LibraryClaire I might stay in bed ;) 07:02 drojf excellent plan 07:03 liw ashimema, I failed at getting to Greece, and eythian did the talk instead 07:23 LibraryClaire @wunder Guildford, UK 07:23 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Henley Fort, Guildford, United Kingdom is 16.9°C (8:21 AM BST on June 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). 07:44 ashimema aw.. that's a shame liw 07:45 liw ashimema, indeed 07:48 ashimema yikes.. it's that 'first day back at work after a week off.. OMG the pile of email feeling' 07:48 ashimema yowsers.. lots of go through 07:49 * liw directs ashimema to Inbox Zero, GTD, and http://gtdfh.branchable.com/ :) 08:07 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 08:07 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 20.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on June 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 08:07 drojf no greek temperatures, but looks ok 08:10 LibraryClaire @wunder Guildford, UK 08:10 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Henley Fort, Guildford, United Kingdom is 18.7°C (9:05 AM BST on June 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 08:10 LibraryClaire Going up 08:42 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk 08:42 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 16.6°C (9:42 AM BST on June 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 08:42 ashimema feels much warmer than that.. 08:44 LibraryClaire Yeah it's pretty warm here, and sunny :) 09:25 drojf could do more greece. considering to work in athens for a week or two during summer. sunshine data migration 10:01 eythian @later tell LibraryClaire https://www.emfcamp.org/ in your neck of the woods 10:01 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 10:03 eythian It's air raid Monday today. 11:18 drojf hello again 11:21 druthb drojf! 11:22 drojf druthb! 11:23 druthb :) 11:25 drojf druthb: when will cpanel support koha installations? 11:26 druthb My suspicion is somewhere like "never", drojf. For one, cPanel & WHM only runs on CentOS, so Koha's Debian-centricness is a bit of a hurdle--one that, I understand, has been at least partly conquered. 11:27 drojf ah yes that might be a problem 11:27 drojf you could do an rpm package too :P 11:27 druthb The other piece of the puzzle is that cPanel account holders are *not* allowed to run services; if the server admin allows, you can use MySQL, but running the search engine--Zebra or anything else--is just not allowed, and there's no plans to change that. 11:28 drojf ok thats a dealbreaker then 11:29 drojf never used cpanel, but saw it at kohacon, so i wondered how far away a one click koha would be 11:29 druthb A reseller account that has ssh access *could* do it, I suppose--well, maybe. I might just have to try it. But it would be non-trivially difficult; WHM is going to be watching for processes like that, and will gun them, as it'd think it's a runaway. 11:31 drojf yes probably not worth it, given how easy a koha install with debian packages is these days 11:32 druthb yah. I'd love to see it happen, I really would. But I don't see it as likely. The shared-web-hosting market that cPanel & WHM supports is just a different breed of cat. We're trying to make things *better*, and allow more things to happen that don't now, but it's a slow road. 11:33 drojf so much for trying to pull you back into the koha community :P 11:33 druthb There are other ways I could be pulled. 11:33 drojf like what? 11:33 wahanui like is hard to say, could adapt to yes, but doesn't feel intuitive 11:35 druthb I still care rather a lot about I18N/L10N stuff. The issues I raised in 2013 at Reno, many of them, are still there, far as I can see. 11:40 LibraryClaire_ hi #koha 11:40 nengard hi 11:40 wahanui hey, nengard 11:44 drojf hi multi LibraryClaire 11:45 LibraryClaire hi drojf :) 12:01 drojf i got a spam email that spoofed my own address. awesome :( 12:22 eythian that's not uncommon 12:24 LibraryClaire eythian: thanks for the link! :) 12:24 eythian A friend of mine goes, says good things. 12:25 LibraryClaire coolio 12:26 liw I've heard good things about EMF. I've not been (and can't go this year due to a wedding) 12:28 LibraryClaire not sure if there's still availability, will keep an eye out 12:29 eythian I think there is, I got an email about it. 12:29 LibraryClaire ok, i'll check properly 12:29 eythian >The remaining tickets for Electromagnetic Field 2016 will go on sale onWednesday June 8th at 19:00 BST on the EMF website. More than 75% of tickets have already been sold, and we expect those which remain to sell quite quickly. 12:32 LibraryClaire aha 12:32 LibraryClaire that's this week, ok 13:48 alex_a bonjour 13:48 wahanui privet, alex_a 13:48 drojf kalispera alex_a 13:49 alex_a kalispera drojf 14:08 kidclamp that makes good sense to me Joubu, let me check with the sponsors 14:09 Joubu kidclamp: ok :) 14:39 tcohen morning 14:40 drojf hola tcohen 14:40 * LibraryClaire waves 14:41 pianohacker hello 14:42 pianohacker Joubu: are you using sereal using the functions or using an object? 14:42 tcohen hola drojf pianohacker LibraryClaire 14:42 Joubu object 14:42 Joubu pianohacker: I have tried both actually, and got the same results 14:43 pianohacker huh. 14:43 Joubu pianohacker: attach the patch, if you have it ready :) 14:43 pianohacker Joubu: so sereal doesn't make a difference for either master or bug 16166? 14:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16166 enhancement, P2, ---, abl, Needs Signoff , Improve L1 cache performance and safety 14:45 Joubu pianohacker: I tried it on top of master and 16166 IIRC, and was always around 5sec. 14:45 Joubu pianohacker: I would like to test your 1.8sec patch! :) 14:48 pianohacker Joubu: I need to work my way out of a long backlog at work but I'll see what I can do 14:49 tcohen Joubu: kohadevbox:master runs smoothly for me 14:49 Joubu You had a patch ready somewhere ;) 14:49 Joubu pianohacker: how was your flight back? 14:49 tcohen the only problem I found was cloning the qa repo that says connection refused 14:49 tcohen ahhhh 14:49 Joubu tcohen: 2 differents persons tried during the hackfest and got the same errors 14:49 tcohen koha-gitify is really failing 14:50 Joubu they had to apply the deps manually 14:51 pianohacker Joubu: not awful, just far too long. Yours? 14:51 Joubu pianohacker: the way back to the campervan was quite fast :) 14:52 pianohacker good. Where to next? 14:54 tcohen Joubu: did u track the problem down? 14:56 Joubu pianohacker: close to Thessaloniki :) 14:56 Joubu tcohen: not at all, I was not with them 14:56 Joubu it begins with Test::DBIx::Class, then Modern::Perl, then a long list (apparently) 14:57 tcohen maybe it is just that master packages are missing deps 14:57 tcohen the Modern::Perl one is odd 14:57 Joubu indeed... 14:59 tcohen ah, maybe Debian removed something from their base box 15:03 Joubu tcohen: ha, one of the 2 guys told me he opened a bug report 15:04 Joubu https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/issues/99 15:04 Joubu he was using the latest master I think 15:09 * cait waves and runs out 15:24 bag morning 15:29 drojf hi bag 15:33 tcohen morning bag 15:33 tcohen drojf: did you start your packaging manager tasks already? 15:33 magnuse bag: HI 15:33 wahanui salut, magnuse 15:34 drojf tcohen: i got an introduction from eythian and will try to build my way through all failing tests 15:35 drojf why do you ask? are you going to ask for stuff already? :P 15:36 bag made it back at 2am local time last night. Not to shabby - it was 28 hours almost on the dot to get home 15:37 liw hey, bag 15:37 bag magnuse: HI , tcohen HI and liw HI 15:38 drojf no hi for me. pfff. 15:41 tcohen drojf: i ask because kohadevbox relies heavily on master packages 15:41 tcohen which have lagged too much 15:41 tcohen i built my own for the sole purpose of having kohadevbox running 15:42 tcohen if there are failing tests, we should fix them, I would help if needed 15:42 tcohen all of us I guess 15:44 drojf ah ok. i miss the koha repo server part (access to upload). master packages would be a good thing to start with, i will only break non-production things :D 15:45 pianohacker drojf: you say that, but then we find out somebody is running their library on kohadevbox :P 15:45 drojf pianohacker: then its a good thing to break that :P 15:46 eythian drojf: you'll need the ssh key from someone 15:47 drojf i guess rangi can help with that. once he is home and has slept a few days 15:53 magnuse sleep-- 15:59 drojf magnuse: i did that a lot the last weeks. i'm all for sleep++ 16:01 magnuse hehe, me too i guess 16:03 reiveune bye 16:03 * drojf heads home 16:04 bag hi drojf 16:05 drojf hibye bag 17:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16518: Fix Plack variable scoping problem in opac-addbybiblionumber.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab1beed06f249d1e7d0be5bb1b584e62f5b48783> 17:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16455: Remove the "Too late to run INIT block" from C4::Tags <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d916c380a03904c47035f189d1ee666f00d9a11> / Bug 16508: Updating a syspref requires parameters_remaining_permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2fe433cf9afce98957826bf2ade457557fe4eff> 17:56 magnuse fix all the bugs! 18:15 drojf tsipouro o'clock 18:21 tcohen Joubu: kohadevbox is now fixed 18:21 tcohen thanks 18:29 tcohen @later tell drojf 16.05 packages are somehow not pulling koha-perldeps 18:29 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 18:30 drojf tcohen: i'm here. but gmcharlt made the packages 18:31 gmcharlt tcohen: which slot? 18:31 tcohen ah 18:32 tcohen kohadevbox is failing for people 18:32 tcohen and I noticed the perl deps are not being pulled as they did 18:32 tcohen it points to the unstable slot 18:32 tcohen which is installing 16.05 it seems 18:32 tcohen I was worried the stable slot had the same issue 18:33 gmcharlt tcohen: right. I'll replace that shortly in unstable; stable did not have that problem 18:33 tcohen ah 18:33 tcohen awesome, thanks 18:33 tcohen kohadevbox was failing due to missing Modern::Perl :-D 18:36 dani hello 18:36 tcohen hi dani 18:37 drojf gmcharlt: what will koha-elasticsearch be? 18:38 gmcharlt drojf: essentially just a metapackage that pulls in the deps that Koha's ES support needs (and suggests elasticsearch itself) 18:44 drojf ah, ok 18:46 tcohen gmcharlt: aer we sure koha doesn't break without those? 18:48 gmcharlt tcohen: yep, worked for me in testing 18:48 gmcharlt (assuming, of course, that one doesn't just turn on the sysprefs to enable ES :) 18:48 tcohen heheh 18:48 tcohen awesome gmcharlt, I didn't test that myself as kohadevbox pulls those deps by default 18:53 eythian drojf: so, I just realised the tsipouro bottle I got from duty free has a cork. It seems it'll be an all or nothing evening when I open that. 18:53 Joubu tcohen: ok great 18:54 Joubu might be good to answer / close the 2 issues on github 18:54 drojf eythian: mine has too. but you can close it without drinking it all ;) 18:54 tcohen Joubu: and build a healthy community around kohadevbox? nahhhh 18:54 tcohen :-P 18:55 Joubu drojf: eythian just wants an excuse to drink it in one night :) 18:55 drojf in that case, go for it :D 18:56 eythian Heh 18:57 bag back 18:57 bag go for it eythian 18:57 bag I didn’t know I would have to go through security again in instanbul - I bought a little bottle of tsipouro in the airport in thessoniki 18:58 bag so I drank half of the little bottle in the security line… Well at least I made it home ;) 18:58 drojf lolk 18:58 drojf lol 19:03 eythian bag: sounds terrible :-) 19:03 drojf yes, no ice 19:04 eythian (surprised they didn't give you a sealed duty free bag bag) 19:04 bag no ice.. I gave my second bottle to one of the guys working at one of the desks - he was very excited 19:16 drojf eythian: you got the one with the clear label? 19:25 eythian drojf: yep 19:29 tcohen later #koha 19:35 drojf eythian: just tried it, not bad 19:36 drojf i have to dlo a 19:36 drojf i have to do a research thing where i try all i have next to each other 19:37 eythian Report your results :-) 19:37 eythian Slurred results 19:37 LibraryClaire evening 19:37 drojf hi LibraryClaire 19:38 pianohacker hi LibraryClaire 19:38 LibraryClaire hi drojf, hi pianohacker :) 19:44 bag heya LibraryClaire 19:44 wahanui LibraryClaire is, like, under my bed 19:44 LibraryClaire omg 19:44 bag wahanui: forget LibraryClaire 19:44 wahanui bag: I forgot libraryclaire 19:44 LibraryClaire hi bag 19:45 bag LibraryClaire? 19:45 bag that’s better :) 19:45 LibraryClaire haha, slightly less creepy 19:46 magnuse when i was going home fra new zealand i bought a couple small bottles of wine called something with Koha in the airport in bucklame, sealed and everything. but when i got to london it turned out that london security did not trust the nz seal on the bags, so i had to throw them away :-( 19:49 drojf :( 19:53 LibraryClaire tempted to try the ouzo 19:58 drojf LibraryClaire: you should 20:01 LibraryClaire don't think I have any ice ;) 20:02 drojf National Geographic - Search For The Giant Octopus 20:02 Joubu Just put the bottle on the balcony 20:02 drojf tempting 20:04 LibraryClaire hehe, it's been warm here today :) 20:33 barton hey, has anyone seen any performance issues when using the indexing-daemon? We have one library who has intermittent issues with bibs taking up to 20 minutes to index. I've done my due dilligence searching the mailing lists and bugzilla; can't find anything. 20:49 eythian LibraryClaire: I put water in the bottom of a glass and freeze it 20:49 LibraryClaire eythian: ah that would have been an idea 20:50 kathryn Hello dear Koha community. Kohacon made me miss you, even those I've never met! 20:50 eythian The characters in the book I'm reading are planning a holiday in Crete. Eating things with tentacles was specifically mentioned as one reason. 20:51 eythian kathryn: you've forgotten meeting me already!? :-) 20:51 eythian Also, hi 20:51 kathryn eythian who? 20:51 wahanui i heard eythian was great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem. 20:52 eythian wahanui++ 20:52 kathryn well said, wahanui 20:52 wahanui kathryn: excuse me? 20:52 kathryn nevermind. 20:52 eythian wahanui: botsnack 20:52 wahanui :) 20:52 kathryn y'know howl's moving castle? 20:53 kathryn sometimes wahanui reminds me of Calcifer 20:53 eythian It's been a long time, but I think I saw it once 20:53 kathryn it's definitely a re-watch movie, unless you don't like miyazaki much 20:53 kathryn where's chall when I need him 20:54 eythian Heh 20:54 eythian I should rewatch it 20:55 eythian wahanui: status 20:55 wahanui Since Thu May 19 20:29:30 2016, there have been 182 modifications and 69 questions. I have been awake for 18 days, 25 minutes, 47 seconds this session, and currently reference 48537 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. 20:55 magnuse ooh, that's a lot of factoids! 20:56 eythian Needs a botsnack counter 20:56 eythian wahanui: botslap 20:56 wahanui ow! 20:58 drojf wahanui: bottsipouro 20:58 wahanui drojf: excuse me? 20:59 drojf wahanui: botsnack schnaps 20:59 wahanui :) 22:36 bag @wunder pdx 22:36 huginn bag: The current temperature in Mikeshouse Cully, Portland, Oregon is 33.2°C (3:24 PM PDT on June 06, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Falling). 22:36 bag too hot 23:19 wizzyrea that's pretty hot for portland 23:40 wizzyrea @later tell eythian it's an important distinction! (re: https://twitter.com/carmenmmachado/status/738466499203993600) 23:40 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.