Time Nick Message 23:58 bag yup - my favorite 23:57 mtompset You'll always have 3.4.0 -- condolences. 23:56 bag my daughter 23:56 mtompset Oh, a relative? 23:55 bag Haere. MÅu tai ata; mÅku tai ahiahi 23:55 bag Koha 3.4.0 is released in memoriam of Elizabeth Mae Gallagher-Mitchell 23:55 wizzyrea pedant. 23:55 mtompset Tau is better. :P 23:55 mtompset Pi is wrong.... 23:55 wizzyrea Pi. Pi was my favourite. 23:55 wizzyrea 3.14 maybe? 23:55 wizzyrea oh true, I do like the one where we got the bootstrap opac. 23:54 mtompset Actually, the GUI for Koha was really starting to improve by 3.8 23:54 kidclamp my favorite is the one with FRBR 23:53 bag well then it should be 3.4 ;) 23:53 kidclamp np mtompset 23:53 * wizzyrea doesn't have a favourite 23:53 mtompset jcamins and I will always have 3.6.3 23:53 bag my favorite release is 3.4 :D 23:53 mtompset kidclamp++ # thanks for the sign off. 23:52 * bag started with 2.2 23:52 wizzyrea (but didn't use the 2.2 one, it was only for testing) 23:52 wizzyrea I think I've had an installed Koha since version 2.2 23:51 mtompset wizzyrea: Careful, you might date yourself. ;) 23:51 kidclamp marc will save us, everyone will finally understand why we keep it around 23:51 wizzyrea I remember when you had to actually know the numbers for the hiding. 23:50 kidclamp zombie apocalypse 23:50 wizzyrea whatever might be necessary :P 23:50 mtompset nobody knows! 23:50 kidclamp reserved for what? 23:50 mtompset :P Show off! 23:50 * wizzyrea did 23:50 mtompset I bet you didn't know the -9 and 9 are future reserved, did you? 23:49 mtompset Those comments I put into the filter code are the best documentation I did find. 23:49 mtompset it really isn't documented. 23:49 mtompset from what I can tell it's a hide it all now! 23:48 kidclamp i mean, the flagged option does ???? and complaints are rare 23:48 mtompset We have those pretty check boxes in the framework advanced section for a reason. 23:47 mtompset I'm surprised no one actually complained about the failure to hide properly. 23:47 kidclamp not that most will hide all, but it hits a ton 23:47 kidclamp It is a pretty drastic increase 23:46 mtompset There is still 2-5% to polish it completely, but for the scope of the bug: detail pages, it is good to go. :) 23:46 mtompset :) 23:44 kidclamp mtompset++ 23:43 mtompset Exactly! 23:37 kidclamp hey! where'd all the record info go! :-) 23:33 mtompset BTW, I hate GetISBDView. :) 23:32 mtompset There is even staff filtering slightly. :) 23:32 kidclamp I saw, applied and testing as we speak 23:32 mtompset kidclamp: It is ready. 23:32 kidclamp I never go too far 23:31 mtompset There you is. 23:28 wahanui mtompset is catching up on his other coding projects. 23:28 kidclamp mtompset? 23:14 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 23:14 bag @later tell rangi can you add this bug 16248 to the ES branch? 23:07 drojf good night #koha 22:57 huginn mtompset: I have not seen kidclamp_away. 22:57 mtompset @seen kidclamp_away 22:56 huginn mtompset: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 20 hours, 49 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <kidclamp> following you out 22:56 mtompset @seen kidclamp 22:56 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 21:31 jcamins bag: ohgodohgodohgodohgod. 21:19 bag that’s what my dad used to do 21:19 bag wear a snorkle and mask - and have a fan blowing across you jcamins :P 21:18 wahanui interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad 21:18 cait interesting 21:18 cait ah 21:16 jcamins Grating it and putting it in vinegar. 21:16 jcamins lol 21:16 cait how are yo umaking more? growing it? 21:16 cait ? 21:15 jcamins cait: I'm about to make more horseradish. 20:44 andreashm_ hehe 20:44 cait stop making me hungry for things that are not availavle 20:43 nuentoter for a long time i would make grilled cheese and peanut butter sandwiches for midnight fuel 20:41 cait hmm i'd love some chocolate 20:40 andreashm_ (or not) 20:40 andreashm_ together! 20:40 andreashm_ cheese and chocolate! 20:39 nuentoter thats what peanut butter and chocolate are for! 20:39 * cait has run out of battery some time ago 20:38 wahanui battery is holding down like a champ. think I'm going to make it! 20:38 andreashm_ battery? 20:38 * magnuse runs out of battery 20:09 drojf if he is able to fix a problem in code i hope he won't be afraid of git 20:09 andreashm_ drojf: saw that on the mailing list. nice 20:08 drojf i tried to recruit a new developer, if he actually joins irc someone has to walk him through kohadevbox :P … tcohen ;) 20:06 andreashm_ bag: will do! 20:04 bag sorry s/signoff/QA 20:04 * cait supports that idea 20:03 bag andreashm_: bug pianohacker to QA it ;) (if it wasn’t a bywater signoff previously) 20:03 * magnuse would do extra work for swiss cheese 20:03 bag yeah rip prince 20:03 andreashm_ might get smelly. 20:03 magnuse [off] whaat, prince is dead?!? 20:03 andreashm_ or maybe not. 20:03 andreashm_ or swiss chesse 20:02 magnuse that won't hurt 20:02 andreashm_ should perhaps send cookies to the QA team? 20:02 andreashm_ tight call 19:59 bag yup 28th 19:59 * cait waves 19:58 magnuse yeah, 28th is the deadline, i think 19:55 andreashm_ I really hope the REST API stuff manages to get passed QA before feature freeze. Just one more week right? 19:43 mario thank you magnuse 19:41 magnuse cheers mario! 19:40 magnuse kia ora cait 19:37 magnuse the conflicts don't look too bad i think, but it's getting too late for me today 19:36 magnuse hehe, possibly :-) 19:36 andreashm_ I looked at it earlier today actually as there is a Swedish library who wants that functinality. I think you can guess which one magnuse! =) 19:35 andreashm_ If it should manage to be updated 19:34 andreashm_ That's a nice one. 19:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin, Patch doesn't apply , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import 19:31 magnuse bug 14957 19:30 wahanui hmmm... a clone is probably my best bet (simplest and quickest) 19:30 magnuse ooh, a clone? 19:29 andreashm_ heh 19:28 * andreashm_ is back 19:22 magnuse and then reindex with "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v <yourinstance>" 19:22 nuentoter oh nice! im starting up the server right now. 19:22 magnuse that should do it, i think 19:22 magnuse and then "UPDATE items SET homebranch = X AND holdingbranch = X" where X is the library code of your library 19:21 magnuse then you can do "sudo koha-mysql <yourinstance>" 19:21 nuentoter yup 19:20 magnuse are you on a package install? 19:20 nuentoter tell me there is an easier way lol :) 19:20 nuentoter yup 19:20 magnuse are you comfortable with doing things on the commend line? 19:20 nuentoter no just the one 19:20 magnuse nuentoter: do you have more than one library? 19:20 magnuse a.k.a. homebranch and holdingbranch 19:20 nuentoter yup 19:19 magnuse nuentoter: do you mean 952a and b? 19:19 nuentoter after importing everything (which required some heavy editing to work [uugghhh]) realized I omitted to add the library code to any of my items. This results in nothing being able to be checked out. 19:17 magnuse nuentoter: with a report, perhaps? 19:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add the ability to prevent a patron from placing a hold on a record with available items 19:17 andreashm Anyone up for some testing? Bug 15534 apparently needs another sign-off. 19:16 nuentoter hello!, quick question when doing a batch item edit, i can upload a file. how can this file be created by koha? 19:15 andreashm magnuse: lots of chocolate and cakes, as well. and fruit flavored beer. I'm actually starting to like that, which is somewhat scary. =) 19:14 andreashm magnuse: yeah, thanks, just found it in the logs. 19:13 magnuse lots of cheese sounds perfect! 19:13 magnuse http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/development_irc_meeting_20_april_2016.2016-04-20-15.07.html 19:13 magnuse http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/development_irc_meeting_20_april_2016.2016-04-20-15.07.log.html 19:12 magnuse and yes there was a dev meeting yesterdays 19:12 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (8:50 PM CEST on April 21, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). 19:12 magnuse @wunder boo 19:12 magnuse yeah, we had something very similar to snow this morning 19:09 andreashm was there a dev meeting yesterday? 19:08 andreashm magnuse: what's up in the norht? saw you mention something about snow in the logs? 19:07 andreashm magnuse: lots of it. cheese cheese cheese! 19:06 magnuse andreashm: found any nice swiss cheese yet? 19:00 magnuse emptying OpacFavicon, reloading the page, filling OpacFavicon back in and reloading again seems to have solved it - some kind of caching issue perhaps 19:00 andreashm hej magnuse 18:59 magnuse kia ora andreashm 18:58 andreashm hi #koha 18:54 magnuse knuckleses! 18:52 wahanui hello, bag 18:52 bag magnuse: HI there 18:51 magnuse bag: HI 18:51 drojf hi bag 18:51 drojf hm maybe not 18:51 bag morning 18:51 drojf magnuse: i think there was a bug about that long ago? 18:50 drojf is there apache 2.4 for 14.04? 18:50 magnuse trying to set up an instance with https. i have a full https url in OpacFavicon. On the front page etc that works without any problems, but search result pages uses the old http url that used to be in OpacFavicon. why? 18:50 magnuse drojf: true, of course :-) 18:49 drojf it wont suddenly stop working on 14.04 i guess :) 18:49 drojf maybe recommend fits better than support 18:48 drojf magnuse: i think it works anyway, probably better than older debians. i only meant the statement we have that was something like "the most recent LTS of ubuntu) 18:47 magnuse drojf: not without a bit of a warning, perhaps? 18:21 drojf with ubuntu 16.04 here, do we drop 14.04 support? 18:10 magnuse (does that sound ironic? not meant to be :-) 18:10 magnuse oleonard++ thanks a bunch! 18:00 oleonard Sure, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something 18:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make it possible to limit patron search to surname 18:00 magnuse oleonard: thanks for catching my lack of logic on bug 16316 16:56 jcamins kivilahtio: I usually use mocha/chai. 16:49 kivilahtio I guess all the frameworks do :) 16:49 kivilahtio JAsmine works really well with the REST API 16:49 kivilahtio but I have very limited experience with front-end testing 16:48 kivilahtio I have been writing my first javascript tests for Koha with http://jasmine.github.io/2.4/introduction.html 16:48 kivilahtio speaking of javascript. Have you checked out Jasmine BDD yet? 16:41 kivilahtio if having closures inside closutes 16:41 oleonard Scary JavaScript Stories to Tell in the Dark 16:41 kivilahtio I cast this to self (old habits, old habits) 16:41 gaetan_B bye 16:41 jcamins oleonard: the fact that ever works is very scary. 16:39 oleonard Ambiguity about jQuery's $(this) and JavaScript's this 16:38 oleonard It used to work, now it doesn't. Simple fix though. 16:38 kivilahtio where this is presumably a HTMLElement ? 16:38 kivilahtio or does this really stringify as a css-selector? 16:37 kivilahtio oleonard: looks wrong 16:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16321 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , 'Show all details' checkbox triggers JS error after jQuery upgrade 16:37 oleonard Bug 16321 16:36 slef bbl (but maybe only to say goodbye :) ) 16:35 oleonard $(this+":checked").val() 16:35 oleonard Might be a case where previous versions were lest strict about syntax? I don't know. 16:35 kivilahtio I didn't know they exist 16:34 wahanui i heard really was more trouble than she's worth. 16:34 kivilahtio oleonard: really? 16:32 oleonard Ha. Just discovered my first jQuery upgrade bug. 16:31 kivilahtio Geralt is calling me. Need to find Triss 16:28 slef (that's sky blue, too) 16:28 slef (blue/white/green horizontal tricolour, in case you ever see it) 16:27 slef hmm, might work better than my habit of posting the republican flag when they start on with the union one :) 16:26 kivilahtio http://www.flagofplanetearth.com/#intro-shift 16:26 kivilahtio so is 16:25 kivilahtio Esperanto is an interesting concept 16:24 slef There is also BEMI which is cycling to some Esperanto event. Maybe one day. 16:24 slef kivilahtio: I've seen it but it's never quite at the right time for me. Also, my cycling so far has been day trips only and not multi-day tours. 16:23 kivilahtio slef: not sure if that is a big phenomenom, but in Finland we had such an event where Finnish librarians bicycled from Helsinki to Germany 16:22 kivilahtio slef: have you participated to Cycling 4 Libraries? 16:22 kivilahtio no place like #koha 16:22 * slef logs in and quickly refiles some stuff and updates the logo to the correct one too 16:21 slef I've not been here late often lately 16:21 slef nice to see you too 16:21 slef you just can't get the librarians any more :) 16:21 slef bah and I look at that website and trev has misfiled some stuff 16:20 nengard well nice to see you 16:20 nengard ha ha 16:20 jcamins I am really curious how wahanui learned that. 16:20 slef Well, it's right in that I'm ready to check out... 16:20 wahanui ...but slef is probably busy so please use http://www.software.coop/contact/ if you need him for work or but I don't want to say anything bad about him lest he smack me|an item record... 16:20 oleonard wahanui: slef is an authority record 16:20 wahanui i haven't a clue, oleonard 16:20 oleonard wahanui: ?? 16:20 nengard nuh uh 16:20 wahanui slef is an item record 16:20 nengard slef!!!!!! 16:20 slef oh heck, it's the end of the day - did I mention that? 16:19 slef from librareis, I mean 16:19 slef yes, my most-updated site is www.KLWNBUG.co.uk which is a volunteer project (and a blissful break for libraries) 16:19 jcamins (I don't volunteer to do website updates, I volunteer to teach for them, and I was making a three-line change correcting the syllabus) 16:18 jcamins Actually, I just updated a website for free. But that was a three line change, and it was because it's a charity I volunteer for occasionally. 16:18 slef I would but they mostly come after those I do get paid for :) 16:18 kivilahtio yeah. I wouldnt update wesites for free :) 16:17 jcamins Much better this way than the other way. 16:17 jcamins kivilahtio: that is true. 16:17 slef kivilahtio: not only, sadly, but I'm not going to whinge here :) 16:16 kivilahtio jcamins: slef: I am happy you are kept busy with paid work :) 16:16 jcamins All of mine have. :/ 16:16 slef I sympathise. I've at least five personal/internal sites to update, some of which have been waiting over a year. 16:15 jcamins I keep on meaning to update C & P's website. 16:15 jcamins slef: that is correct. 16:15 slef as in http://www.cpbibliography.com/services/koha/searchrewrite.html 16:14 slef jcamins: so are you no longer appealing for money to develop it? 16:12 jcamins kivilahtio: it's just a place you can stick code that implements a Did you mean service. 16:12 cait i guess you could add a plugin using some api for suggestions? 16:12 kivilahtio jcamins: what is is based on? 16:12 jcamins And demonstrated it with the only use case that I cared about, which was authority-based. 16:11 cait hm true 16:11 jcamins I wrote a framework for arbitrary Did you mean-style functionality. 16:11 cait yeah i know, - was referring to feature we already have :) 16:11 kivilahtio cait: sorry typoed your nick 16:11 kivilahtio cati think slef means Google-search where Google knows the most common search terms and suggests "did you mean this" 16:10 cait so a bit different 16:10 cait and suggesting authorised terms for your search terms 16:10 cait did you mean suggests for wider/narrower terms 16:10 cait what jcamins did is some features based on authorities 16:09 slef I think jcamins had some ambitions about this too but I've not been following his progress closely since the blog aggregator fell over. 16:08 slef kivilahtio: I think misspellings/typos is their main concern. 16:07 kivilahtio slef: also it depends on what you mean with fuzzy search? 16:06 kivilahtio slef: I think the zebra-docs even warn against using fuzzy search. And there is a ridiculous amount of complexit thee when you merge mutliple search indexes to the mix 16:05 kivilahtio slef: but fuzzy searching is not an easy topic 16:05 kivilahtio i think this is one reason why ElasticSearch is so important 16:05 kivilahtio slef: not very good/efficient in my opinon 16:04 slef yes, it's near the end of the day and someone has thrown me a googly again so I ask here as well as digging :) 16:04 slef Does anyone know how good koha is at fuzzy searching and what alternatives there are for when ICU is in use? 16:00 cait hi slef 15:59 slef hi all 15:38 drojf but thanks for fixing the first ;) 15:37 drojf lol 15:36 tcohen .-D 15:36 tcohen i leave that to the release maintainers 15:35 drojf then have fun putting correct categories to the releases :) 15:35 tcohen :-P 15:35 drojf and your name :P 15:35 drojf heh i bet there is a timestamp somehwere 15:34 tcohen :-P 15:34 tcohen i'm sure the download page is correct 15:34 drojf have you tired the link? 15:34 tcohen try reloading from time to time 15:34 drojf have you tried it? 15:34 tcohen those fancy new browsers that cache stuff 15:34 tcohen yeah 15:34 drojf :P 15:33 drojf tcohen: the last half year? 15:33 tcohen are you sure drojf ? maybe you didn't reload the page? 15:25 drojf Get Koha 3.22 beta 15:25 drojf https://koha-community.org/download-koha/ 15:25 drojf also we prominently list a beta version of 3.22 15:25 drojf ok but thanks for explaining, then somebody with wordpress access has to fix the categories for a lot of stuff 15:24 * drojf is underwhelmed 15:24 drojf meh 15:24 tcohen before pushing/publishing 15:24 tcohen truth is that i always amended the release notes manually 15:23 tcohen but it wasn't automated enough 15:23 kivilahtio life is analog drojf :) 15:23 tcohen i know fredericd contributed a markdown output version, not sure how it works now 15:23 drojf woah. i thought that would be done way more… automatic :P 15:22 drojf ah ok 15:22 drojf so you have to set the tags somewhere? 15:22 tcohen then copy and paste it in the community site 15:22 tcohen then you generate the release notes, need to specify that you also want the HTML ones 15:22 tcohen it needs to be done manually 15:21 drojf tcohen: you were rm, you should know? :) 15:20 drojf categories 3.20.x postings has 3.20, Announcements, release as categories 15:19 drojf and why are all the newsletters in there? 15:19 drojf see https://koha-community.org/category/release/3-20/ vs https://koha-community.org/category/release/3-22/ 15:16 drojf hm there are, but they miss some tags maybe? 15:16 drojf how do we generate the blogposts for new releases? there are no 3.22.x postings after 3.22.1? is that something jajm has to do manually? (i suppose ot's done by a tool?) 15:11 reiveune bye 15:10 kivilahtio not as a national cataloguing tool for the whole of finland :) 15:10 kivilahtio pianohacker: I mean as a national cataloguing tool for Koha-users in Finland :) 15:10 kivilahtio pianohacker: we are planning to use Rancor as a national cataloguing tool. I would like to demo the newest version of it this summer 15:09 kivilahtio pianohacker: do you have a development branch somewhere, like in github? 15:08 pianohacker kivilahtio: I'm slowly poking at some bugfixes, but active enhancements aren't moving very quickly at the moment 15:08 geek_cl kivilahtio, thanks 15:08 kivilahtio geek_cl: I am sorry, I don't think I can help you with that 15:06 geek_cl kivilahtio, http://pastebin.com/hsbEeviu 14:59 kivilahtio past-season I mean 14:59 kivilahtio oleonard: I don't know if that is even English 14:59 kivilahtio geek_cl: or maybe somebody else can help you more. Maybe you can try emailing the mailing list 14:58 geek_cl ok 14:58 kivilahtio geek_cl: start with perl -d misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl 14:58 kivilahtio geek_cl: you need to start debugging the perl-code 14:58 kivilahtio oleonard: :) 14:57 geek_cl kivilahtio, how to check that things, C4::Context->tz() or DateTime ? 14:56 oleonard kivilahtio: past-season? 14:53 kivilahtio is is it past-season already? 14:53 kivilahtio pianohacker: is anybody working with Rancor? 14:53 geek_cl o/ 14:53 geek_cl looks is DateTime 14:52 wahanui evening is the time of day we all look forward too 14:52 kivilahtio good evening 14:52 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one 14:52 pianohacker good morning 14:52 kivilahtio geek_cl: I would start looking there 14:52 kivilahtio geek_cl: sounds like something is wrong in C4::Context->tz() or DateTime 14:51 geek_cl America/Santiago 14:51 geek_cl echo $TZ 14:51 kivilahtio geek_cl: I havent got the faintest idea, maybe your system locale is not set properly 14:51 geek_cl kivilahtio, what about this : /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl : Invalid local time for date in time zone: America/Santiago 14:50 kivilahtio https://github.com/KohaSuomi/kohasuomi/blob/kohasuomi3.16/misc/cronjobtimer.sh 14:50 kivilahtio geek_cl: we lock and log cronjobs with this script 14:50 kivilahtio geek_cl: ok 14:50 geek_cl kivilahtio, ah process_messagequeue.pl run every 10 minutes in my case 14:49 kivilahtio geek_cl: just curious if you want to protect yourself from that 14:49 kivilahtio did you know that if you set the process_messagequeue.pl to run every minute in the crontab, and if it takes more than one minute to complete sending all message_queue. Then the cronjobs starts a-new every minute and never stops spamming your customers with notices? 14:48 geek_cl nop 14:48 kivilahtio geek_cl: do you collect the cronjob logs aomewhere? 14:48 kivilahtio geek_cl: btw, how do you moniotr your cronjobs? 14:47 kivilahtio there is nobody in the #koha-witcher 14:47 geek_cl /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl : Invalid local time for date in time zone: America/Santiago 14:47 kivilahtio what was it? 14:47 kivilahtio neat 14:47 geek_cl "i guess" 14:47 geek_cl hey, i found the reason: 14:47 kivilahtio geek_cl: then I really don't see any other alternative than start debugging the process_messagequeue.pl cronjob 14:46 geek_cl yeah, i checked that too 14:46 kivilahtio we have had those 14:46 kivilahtio geek_cl: maybe there is a magical invisible character in the borrowers email address 14:45 geek_cl yes sir 14:45 kivilahtio geek_cl: but you can send email to other borrowers? 14:44 geek_cl kivilahtio, #koha-witcher 14:44 kivilahtio geek_cl: sounds like you need a witcher 14:43 geek_cl kivilahtio, nothing :/ 14:43 kivilahtio geek_cl: does the errorlogs say anything? 14:43 geek_cl nope 14:42 kivilahtio geek_cl: Can you send anything to the Borrower from Koha? 14:42 geek_cl kivilahtio, yes, by commandline works 14:42 kivilahtio using sendmail postfix, ... 14:42 kivilahtio Or a similar oneliner spell from the command line? 14:42 kivilahtio geek_cl: so echo "messagecontent" | sendmail -c 'borower@example.com' works 14:41 geek_cl the attributes are OK, and yes, i can send emails from the server 14:41 kivilahtio geek_cl: if you set the borrower to receive email when he checks items out, do they get delivefered? 14:40 kivilahtio geek_cl: can you send any email to the borrower? 14:40 kivilahtio geek_cl: and the borrower message attributes are properly configured? 14:40 geek_cl kivilahtio, yes 14:40 kivilahtio for hte borrower 14:40 kivilahtio geek_cl: the message_queue-table is emtpy? 14:40 geek_cl nothing in maillogs and messages_queue 14:40 geek_cl kivilahtio, "There is no record of any messages that have been sent to this patron." 14:39 geek_cl we use MTA , not SMS 14:39 kivilahtio geek_cl: how do you know the email was not sent? 14:39 kivilahtio geek_cl: we have had similar issues, occasionally the SMS service provider cannot send the SMS:es 14:38 geek_cl days_overdue=107 14:37 geek_cl Hi folks, i have an borrowernumber that not receive notifications, where that patron have 107 value on days_due, the primary email is defined. 14:18 kivilahtio ok ok 14:17 tcohen i could try attending 14:17 tcohen on the second semester 14:17 tcohen if there's a marseille hackfest 14:17 kivilahtio that happens to me all the time 14:17 tcohen =D 14:17 kivilahtio :) 14:17 kivilahtio and come back to a falling empire 14:17 kivilahtio tcohen: we never run out of things to do. Sometimes you just need to take a break :) 14:16 tcohen yeah, several changes here keep me from going 14:15 kivilahtio sorry to hear that 14:15 kivilahtio ok 14:15 tcohen will follow the action from cordoba 14:15 tcohen no :-/ 14:15 kivilahtio tcohen: are you coming to KohaCon? 14:15 kivilahtio ok 14:13 tcohen they have the ansible tower thing 14:13 tcohen kivilahtio: it isn't 14:12 kivilahtio tcohen: thos it looks like it is proprietary software 14:12 tcohen kivilahtio: ansible++ 14:10 kivilahtio tcohen: ansible++ 14:06 tcohen hahahahah 14:06 oleonard git bisect + git blame = Law & Order 14:03 tcohen git-bisect++ 13:38 marcelr thx; will come back later 13:38 * tcohen goes test the bug 13:37 tcohen that's probable 13:37 marcelr that could change things 13:37 marcelr probaly the last 13:37 marcelr if he missed some db revs somehow or a dbrev from testing or so 13:37 tcohen marcelr: exaplin? 13:36 marcelr e.g. deletedborrowers 13:36 marcelr in this case i imagine that a db structure that is not completely in good shape adds too 13:35 marcelr true 13:35 tcohen that could lead to things failing, of course 13:35 marcelr o those devs 13:35 tcohen that means that you devs don't have koha-perldeps deal with CURRENT dependencies 13:34 tcohen i would like to note, that master packages are older than v3.22.0 13:34 marcelr good 13:34 tcohen i'll ask him 13:34 marcelr no 13:34 tcohen did bgkriegel mention in which env did he test? 13:33 jajm it would have been safer to wait after release, but at least it's done :) 13:33 marcelr thx 13:33 tcohen marcelr: sure 13:33 drojf tcohen: i had enough of that for today 13:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16155 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Composite keys in TestBuilder and more 13:33 marcelr tcohen: could you check if you have the same tests failing as bernardo in bug 16155 (some pass with me) 13:33 tcohen drojf: don't you like adrenaline flowing through your nervous system? 13:32 * oleonard offers drojf a comforting blanket 13:31 drojf i thought we could do that somewhen after 16.05 13:30 drojf i'm a bit scared it did 13:30 oleonard Thanks go jajm and Joubu for pushing me to figure out the best way to implement it. 13:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15883 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Upgrade jQuery from v1.7.2 in the staff client 13:30 oleonard I honestly didn't think Bug 15883 was going to make it so quickly--if at all! 13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , XSLT display fetches sysprefs for every result processed 13:21 tcohen (bug 15263, which is key to performance boost) 13:21 tcohen drojf: thanks for checking my patch 13:17 oleonard mveron++ 13:17 * oleonard lives in constant fear lately that he will sign off on a bug only to find out mveron beat him to it 13:15 oleonard I don't understand that one. 13:15 oleonard magnuse: "Set "Search fields" = Surname and search for "doe". Neither "Doe John" nor "John Doe" should show up." 13:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make it possible to limit patron search to surname 13:04 magnuse ooh, look at that easy signoff on bug 16316 :-) 12:47 marcelr !hola tcohen 12:46 tcohen ¡buen dÃa! 12:34 nengard HA 12:27 marcelr yes 12:26 wahanui marcelr: huh? 12:26 marcelr not already got away, wahanui 12:26 wahanui not is, like, maybe removed from my search 12:26 marcelr not? 12:26 marcelr hi not 12:20 not hm 12:05 oleonard Ah, makes sense. Thanks marcelr 12:04 marcelr the plugin pasts an URL back in to that field 12:04 marcelr 856u 12:04 oleonard I wonder what subfield 12:02 marcelr yes 12:02 oleonard Oh, so you have to enable it in the framework? 12:02 marcelr oleonard: upload is just a plugin like the others (technically) 11:59 oleonard What setting is required to enable an 'upload' link on an 856 tag? 11:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16314 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Hover text on upload file icon plugin incorrect 11:58 oleonard Bug 16314 11:45 drojf cait: ? 11:44 drojf hm 11:44 oleonard Hi 11:44 cait hi oleonard 11:41 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 11:41 cait @later tell drojf not me - but will tell you more later 11:41 cait hm 11:41 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 11:41 cait @later tell not me, will tell you more later :) 11:41 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 11:41 cait @later tell drojf i know about someone coming to greece who would be interested to learn about packages 11:41 marcelr np 11:41 kivilahtio marcelr: he is gone already :( 11:38 marcelr drojf: yes i come to greece 11:30 kivilahtio hence I was asking ifthere is a preconference so I can cook up an official preconference invitation for them and arrive to Greece on the thursday/friday before the conference 11:29 drojf got to use a vpn, brb 11:29 kivilahtio You have to pay the flights yourself if you want to take extra days off to enjoy Greece 11:29 drojf lol 11:29 kivilahtio drojf: yes, they dont like it that other employees can fly to other countries, so they try to make life equally miserable for everybody 11:28 kivilahtio hence I was hoping there was some kind of a preconference 11:28 drojf huh? from which side? your employer? 11:28 kivilahtio drojf: But looks like the city regulations are tightening up and now you cannot even fly to another country except for precisely the dates in the agenda 11:27 kivilahtio :) 11:27 drojf then i won't tell you where the preconference is ^^ 11:26 kivilahtio Looks like I need to come ti Greece this year, and looking for trouble for the preconference weekend 11:26 kivilahtio drojf: marcelr: any idea if there is a preconference? 11:23 drojf marcelr: will you be in greece? 11:23 drojf thank you :) 11:23 drojf yeah i think it will work one way or the other 11:23 liw drojf, thank you :) 11:22 liw drojf, that sounds cool 11:22 drojf liw: got an email this morning, doing the workshop in greece would be an option from the organizer's side. i hope to discuss it tomorrow so we can make plans. i will probably not get to it today, but working on it 11:20 drojf hi liw 11:19 liw drojf, hi 11:19 drojf more like this https://wiki.debian.org/DataBase/Oracle which i would go through if i knew it still works. the last changed date is promising, but i thought its worth asking here before 11:18 kivilahtio ;) 11:18 kivilahtio drojf: I guess it is not done with apt-get install oracle-server ? 11:17 drojf the recentness is not my biggest concern. the db is ancient, an ancient debian would do. still there is the "set up oracle db server" part 11:17 kivilahtio drojf: we use LXC for everything, it freaking rocks 11:17 kivilahtio or use LXC? 11:17 kivilahtio drojf: yeah, you could juts intall a non-recent Debian :) 11:16 kivilahtio marcelr: every time a new rsultset is fetched from the Koha::Object 11:16 kivilahtio marcelr: I ran the NYTProf on our script and it looks like DBIx actually loads all the tables many times during the batch run 11:15 drojf it may actually happen to me more often that i need it, so i consider setting up a vm once. on the other hand, i totally don't want to :P 11:15 kivilahtio :) 11:14 drojf i understand ;) me neither 11:14 kivilahtio I don't want any extr apain 11:14 drojf oracle-- 11:14 kivilahtio drojf: I have enough with just MAriaDB/MySQL and Ubuntu 14.04 11:14 kivilahtio drojf: sorry 11:14 drojf anyone got experience setting up an oracle db server on recent debian? apparently that is the only way to use an oracle db dump :( 11:14 kivilahtio marcelr: strange thin in DBIx is that there is no caching 11:13 marcelr yes 11:13 kivilahtio that is hard 11:13 kivilahtio but the test suite needs to be improved to spot memory leaks 11:12 kivilahtio I was planning to move to Mojolicious and leave the old CGI code running on Mojolicious_legacy and start refactoring stuff to Mojliicious 11:12 marcelr thats why it will becvome a problem 11:12 kivilahtio marcelr: luckily we have 128GB 11:12 marcelr probably 11:12 kivilahtio marcelr: memory leaks :) 11:12 kivilahtio but I dont understand why in one batch-job it takes 7 times more time 11:12 marcelr we force each lib to plack now, and i fear that it will become an issue 11:11 kivilahtio you only load it when you start the Mojolicious (or plack ) -daemon 11:11 kivilahtio marcelr: that is one issue, but it is not a biggie when we move to plack/Mojolicious 11:11 marcelr when you only need one table 11:11 marcelr its loading everything 11:10 kivilahtio marcelr: any ide awhy DBIx is so slow? 11:10 kivilahtio marcelr: so it takes ~30minutes with DBI to go through all our bibliographic records and extract MARC data to a DB table, with DBIx... we couldnt really use it 11:09 marcelr yeah 11:09 kivilahtio marcelr: we have a custom feature biblio_data_elements where we extract data in Zebra index to MariaDB, and i made comparison runs with DBIx vs DBI and DBIx was 7-times slower 11:09 marcelr 3.22 too 11:09 kivilahtio marcelr: it still has poor performance? 11:08 kivilahtio marcelr: that is the reason I am so hyped up about the REST API 11:08 marcelr dbix 11:08 kivilahtio marcelr: I agree 11:08 marcelr the bad performance is a killer 11:08 kivilahtio marcelr: we are doing a lot of process improvements and rebasing a lot of code :) 11:08 marcelr great 11:08 kivilahtio marcelr: we are targeting this summer to move from 3.16 to 3.24 11:07 marcelr ok 11:07 kivilahtio marcelr: but I know what you mean. Thank you for tipping your ear! 11:07 marcelr but you like to upgrade too at some point in time.. 11:07 kivilahtio patience wont help me keep up to my quota 11:07 kivilahtio marcelr: I need to get some test runs by tomorrow 11:07 marcelr you need it here 11:07 kivilahtio marcelr: haha, I have no patience 11:06 marcelr well start the discussion and have some patience :) 11:06 kivilahtio something like that 11:05 kivilahtio if we for some reason cannot find the admin-user in DB, then it is autocreated 11:05 kivilahtio having the Admin-user in DB makes alot of sense for me, we could get rid of all the extra '0':es and the code needed to maintain the disparity 11:04 kivilahtio yup 11:04 marcelr we touch the whole admin user discussion here 11:04 kivilahtio marcelr: hmm. I guess 0 is a good choice 11:04 kivilahtio but if admin was a real user, then we could name him from the normal borrowers-module, to whatever localization we want 11:04 marcelr modifiaction log etc 11:03 marcelr i think that i see 0 in the koha log 11:03 kivilahtio hmm, true 11:03 kivilahtio but not sure if it will work for most of the libraries 11:03 marcelr a null or 0 could imply admin too 11:03 kivilahtio I mean one of the above 11:03 kivilahtio borrowernumber = 1, userid = 'koha', userid = 'admin' ?? 11:03 kivilahtio marcelr: I was planning to set the default commandline user based on the followiung rules, 11:02 kivilahtio marcelr: just curious if others have default users 11:01 kivilahtio marcelr: nothing nasty here, apart from the default cronjob user missing :) 11:01 marcelr the combination of cron and GUI seems to be a nasty one often 11:01 kivilahtio marcelr: this way the GUI behaves consistently 11:01 kivilahtio then it would be easy to display the default commandline user as the operator/culprit 11:01 marcelr probably the second 11:00 kivilahtio I could loose the DB constraints, or make a default commandline user 10:59 kivilahtio marcelr: And the database constraints I have require a user to be associated with the operation results 10:59 kivilahtio marcelr: usually, but I have a cronjob which can be operated by a user from the GUI and from the commandline 10:59 kivilahtio hi drojf 10:59 marcelr hi drojf 10:59 marcelr kivilahtio: cronjobs are not associated with a user normally 10:58 drojf hi #koha 10:46 kivilahtio I see the sample_borrowers.sql introduces Koha Admin (1), but this is not a mandatory borrowers-entry 10:46 kivilahtio should there be a default koha.borrowers-row with borrowernumber = 1 who would populate the userenv for cronjobs? 10:45 kivilahtio how about commandline scripts/cronjobs? 10:45 kivilahtio when you log in to OPAC or staff client, the userenv is autoatically set for the person logged in. 10:44 kivilahtio Do we have any default patron/user/borrower which could be considered as the default user for commandline scripts? 09:14 * andreashm waves 09:00 SamEEE hai friends! 08:28 magnuse hi cait marcelr and gaetan_B 08:01 marcelr hi cait 07:58 * cait waves 07:45 marcelr and hi magnuse 07:45 marcelr bon jour gaetan_B 07:41 gaetan_B hello 07:40 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 07:40 magnuse @later tell nengard there was a question on koha-devel about how to submit patches for the docs. what method do you prefer? 07:40 marcelr hi #koha 07:00 reiveune hello 06:55 * magnuse thought the stuff falling out of the sky this morning looked suspiciously like snow 06:54 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 15.0°C (9:20 AM EEST on April 21, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 06:54 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki 06:54 alex_a bonjour magnuse 06:54 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 15.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on April 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 06:54 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:54 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). 06:54 magnuse @wunder boo 06:54 magnuse bonjour alex_a 06:52 alex_a bonjour 06:45 magnuse yay! 06:45 dcook It's only 4:45pm! :p 06:44 magnuse dcook: or just go home... ;-) 06:08 dcook I should really update the documentation and maybe some wiki pages.. 06:08 dcook I hadn't tried SRU before today, but the off-list email presented some interesting challenges :) 06:08 dcook mtj: No worries :) 06:05 magnuse bag++ 04:54 mtj hey dcook, thanks for the SRU info :) 04:10 dcook Nothing like a mandatory Windows restart... 02:07 kidclamp following you out 02:07 kidclamp you too mtompset 02:07 mtompset ^night^day^ 02:06 mtompset Have a good night, #koha kidclamp rangi wizzyrea 02:05 * mtompset grumbles about carts and lists. 02:05 kidclamp hehe, that's what testing is for 02:05 rangi ill check it out 02:05 mtompset Thanks for testing, kidclamp. Sorry it was more broken than I thought. :) 02:05 kidclamp The emulator says it will look up patron by userid, but it didn't seem to be case sensitive before or after patch 02:02 rangi commented back 02:01 rangi ta 01:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16282 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Usernames should be case sensitive 01:52 kidclamp I posted on bug 16282 01:51 rangi am now 01:47 kidclamp alirght, I will test tomorrow then :-) Thanks for the hard work 01:47 mtompset I'm going to git bz attach my work to the bug. 01:47 mtompset I'll write up a better test plan tomorrow. 01:47 mtompset ISBD is a pain to close completely. 01:46 kidclamp mtompset, saw the update, should I test marcview only? 01:46 kidclamp yes? 01:42 huginn mtompset: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <kidclamp> rangi around? 01:42 mtompset @seen kidclamp 00:11 kidclamp rangi around?