Time  Nick        Message
21:27 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16222: (QA followup) Add /api dir for the API <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a96adaadb2c4bbf54ad8440164b73aa74a38cc96> / Bug 16222 - Add REST API folder to Makefile.PL <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c20c70c99d79c0d02a37a0e41d0e90afb5c69681>
21:27 wizzyrea    where people could write their changes directly in the interface.
21:27 wizzyrea    I wonder if it would be nicer to have the manual in something like a gitlab
21:25 wizzyrea    (I had a preprocess job to generate the import file that I was using, it was simply easier to fix the incoming data than to track down the bug)
21:25 cait        thx!
21:25 wizzyrea    I will attempt to set aside an hour or so to have a look at it today, and file a bug if my findings are the same.
21:24 wizzyrea    :)
21:24 wizzyrea    it's ok
21:24 wizzyrea    people who do imports anyway.
21:24 cait        i think we might not have tested the intended change well enogh
21:24 wizzyrea    but I was a bit worried it would break things for a lot of people
21:23 wizzyrea    at what happened
21:23 wizzyrea    I'd have to look more closely
21:23 cait        when it finds one that is duplicate
21:23 wizzyrea    s/bug/patch
21:23 cait        i thought he was only talking about the duplicate case
21:23 wizzyrea    but it doesn't seem to do it
21:23 wizzyrea    "it would be easy to generate a userid here"
21:23 cait        so i don#t want that broken either
21:23 wizzyrea    yeah there's a note in the bug
21:22 cait        we do that all the time - leaving userid and let it generate
21:22 wizzyrea    I need to test some more I think
21:22 cait        i think that change was unintended
21:22 wizzyrea    well like I said
21:22 cait        and ew.
21:22 cait        that sounds like a bug
21:21 wizzyrea    I could see doing that if you had a userid column and it was empty
21:21 wizzyrea    and it rejected all 700 borrowers because of duplicate userid
21:21 wizzyrea    I had an import file with no userid column
21:20 wizzyrea    so what seemed to be happening (I was a bit under the gun, I need to test more now that it's not urgent)
21:20 wizzyrea    I did see your message :)
21:19 cait        did you see it anyway?
21:18 cait        i messed up leaving you a message this morning
21:18 cait        kind of :)
21:16 wizzyrea    (not urgent)
21:16 wizzyrea    ?
21:16 wizzyrea    cait about
21:16 wizzyrea    getting the occasional retweet just wasn't cutting it
21:16 * wizzyrea  follows just for the comedy
21:15 wizzyrea    hehe I hadn't seen the buckethead sheep one
21:12 rangi       shane you egg
21:12 rangi       https://twitter.com/CivilDefenceWKT/status/711999841245630464
21:12 rangi       and still my favourite
21:11 rangi       https://twitter.com/CivilDefenceWKT/status/720466955761754112
21:11 rangi       https://twitter.com/CivilDefenceWKT/status/722894703570497538  still the best civil defence account anywhere
21:07 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14816: Fix multiple selection in item search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9aa8bf46f6b45ebcd342c09bd3a09ae55f3dd4a8>
20:57 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15682 - Only allow merging of 2 or more records form lsits (for consistency) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9550e37fc66402500adf8bca7a1c90ee0104cdd0> / Bug 15682 - Merging records from cataloguing search only allows to merge 2 records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f1e5ad95fd78cbf09028e3d2dfe0b2b77d4dd21>
20:47 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15832: Remove empty string from the filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1931ff465317aa2bf8d31c0c817ff0c4d75ea8dc> / Bug 15832 - Fix filter and items split-up in pendingreserves.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=82be93af1ccbd3544646a6345ab51183a62d05cb>
20:45 bag         but I didn’t think it was worth it going back and editting the git history (so I’ll own those mistakes ;)
20:44 bag         missed a few [SIGNED-OFF] too ;)
20:44 bag         reset —hard
20:44 rangi       ah right
20:44 bag         I blew up my kohadevbox
20:44 rangi       hehe :)
20:44 bag         that was me
20:44 bag         yup :)
20:43 rangi       check the last sign off :) someone needs to fix the git config :)
20:43 rangi       http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=997ad166c6ea53d47e3e15e7720d63da9f3b0a80
20:40 rangi       heheh oops
20:37 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15883 - Upgrade jQuery from v1.7.2 in the staff client <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88e8f60ebc6f1fdfb242f224081f0b97f88352f8> / Bug 16055: Do not allow basketgroup deletion unless empty <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be33e1b46537d85b3d49abc076348916dd50004b>
20:27 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16104: Remove warnings "used only once: possible typo" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b319a2d487257e8a08bc26af9c6b2e7fa2ece2c>
19:59 rangi       some good news for the day http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/79122615/stranger-saves-life-of-heart-attack-teenager-with-kerbside-cpr
19:57 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16179: Do not crash if "rate me" is clicked and not rate selected <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b679cac96409b7248f8e224e10c73dafa4c82890> / Bug 16224: Fix t/db_dependent/Reports_Guided.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=08017f89f150394b6224fafb64fe8d12fc146ff1>
19:43 cait        cool
19:43 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10459 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , borrowers should have a timestamp
19:43 mtompset    cait: bug 10459
19:43 * cait      waves
19:38 mtompset    oh shoot... shouldn't the QA test tools also run on the SQL and PL in the atomic updates?
19:30 pastebot    "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "shouldn't that ON UPDATE be on the next line?! (kohastructure.sql)" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/417
19:29 mtompset    oh shoot... I think I noticed a bug.
19:27 mtompset    I'll take that as a "good idea. change it."
19:26 bag         sure
19:26 mtompset    bag: The whole let's call a timestamp field timestamp seems like asking for trouble since timestamp is a reserved word. Any objection to changing it to time_stamp?
19:24 mtompset    Greetings, magnuse cait bag
19:13 magnuse     s/too/again/
19:13 * magnuse   waves too
19:03 mtompset    i'll rebase it too.
19:01 mtompset    Give me a bit, I'll update it to current atomicupdate methd.
19:00 bag         oh me too
18:59 cait        me too
18:55 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10459 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , borrowers should have a timestamp
18:55 oleonard    I would like Bug 10459 to happen please.
18:46 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16285 - write_age() function throws error for patron categories that don't includ... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=41549bf3f4aa1f87060c7e27ab27e6932359211c>
18:36 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16227: Fix regression from bug 15084 - select currencies correctly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd9f9f9be17207b8e4e152d3b5f25bee5260ad38>
18:20 huginn      mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <khall> afk, brb
18:20 mtompset    @seen khall
18:04 oleonard    I can't get Koha to flag an authority record as a duplicate even after importing the same record from LOC twice. :|
17:58 tcohen      hi mtompset
17:58 mtompset    tcohen: *ping*
17:57 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
17:46 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16229: (QA) POD fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=40ec26dc6cbc2ac2634ca0e8111476bbd6f62fc7> / Bug 16229: Add the unsafe flag to set_in_cache <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=22c907230af9821d84127f9e2afbea9757aed2fa> / Bug 16229: Deep copy on setting in cache <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33ad907a820debc87bf2629cc1eed4
17:39 oleonard    Congratulations :)
17:39 * magnuse   goes to take it off the roof of the car
17:38 magnuse     just thought i'd mention it ;-)
17:36 oleonard    magnuse: ?
17:30 * magnuse   has a canoe
17:16 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16240: (follow-up for 16082) Do not display message if no borrowernumber passed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ec54c86feb92989807837d71f4c0a5e901e07e3>
16:56 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16256 - Can't edit library EAN if you leave EAN empty <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51e3e31627c38f88671f8ab399b470ec4a02aaec> / Bug 16208 [QA Followup] - Fix incorrect form parameter names <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e89f7a60806f43ca03d35ca4b9e05997a70a7978> / Bug 16208 - Can't delete a library EAN if the EAN value is empty <http://git.koha-communit
16:27 bag         ah ok I see what you’re saying
16:27 bgkriegel   Normally they are removed, I suppose ([SIGNED_OFF])
16:26 bgkriegel   I see those marks on http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=summary
16:25 bag         I screwed around with my set up yesterday and may have missed something - what do you mean bgkriegel
16:25 bag         sorry I’m slow today - huh?
16:23 bgkriegel   RM is forgetting to remove signed-off marks :)
16:16 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: [SIGNED-OFF] Bug 16210: Set X-Frame-Options to SAMEORIGIN in 2 other places <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6efa491d1b2f92fa407aa49c7b678f9b642fc83f> / [SIGNED-OFF] Bug 16210: Revert OPAC changes from Bug 15111 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d496d03e8aa3079e0d29837b27b31b9a55afd02e>
16:13 tcohen      cait: sorry https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Editor_Helpers
16:11 oleonard    That was easy. I should volunteer to do that again.
16:09 cait        thx a lot!
16:09 oleonard    I will cait
16:08 cait        could someone else take care of putting logs on the wiki maybe?
16:08 cait        ah
16:08 oleonard    cait++ # Thank you for chairing
16:08 cait        i will try
16:08 cait        next typo :)
16:08 cait        hm with the same text?
16:07 * oleonard  thinks #disagreed?
16:07 huginn      Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/development_irc_meeting_20_april_2016.2016-04-20-15.07.log.html
16:07 huginn      Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/development_irc_meeting_20_april_2016.2016-04-20-15.07.txt
16:07 huginn      Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/development_irc_meeting_20_april_2016.2016-04-20-15.07.html
16:07 huginn      Meeting ended Wed Apr 20 16:07:56 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
16:07 cait        #endmeeting
16:07 cait        with dates too!
16:07 cait        not only bad with timezones :)
16:07 cait        #agreed next meeting will be held on MAY 11, 21 UTC
16:07 cait        argh
16:07 cait        #agreed next meeting will be held on April 11, 21 UTC
16:07 pianohacker sure
16:07 cait        for 11th now?
16:07 pianohacker and it's perfect for me
16:07 cait        shall we try?
16:06 pianohacker it'd get more of NZ in at least
16:06 * oleonard  could make that work, probably.
16:06 cait        bad for europe... but what if we tried 21 UTC?
16:05 cait        so i have pretty much given up on the idea of qa team meetings online
16:05 cait        ad it was impossible
16:05 cait        i tried for one past qa team
16:05 cait        eah
16:05 pianohacker *NZ
16:04 pianohacker I do remember trying to do that back in the day and watching the "okay" parts of the day nicely completely miss each other for western US, europe and NY
16:04 cait        well or some timezone with the most people
16:04 cait        always good for europe then maybe
16:04 oleonard    Maybe we need to start using something like Doodle to plan meetings (http://doodle.com/)
16:03 cait        http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160511T09&msg=Koha%20Developers%20IRC%20Meeting&low=c ?
16:03 cait        so that's mostly why i am looking for an alternative
16:02 cait        19 had very few poeple last time
16:02 barton      http://xkcd.com/1335/
16:02 oleonard    UTC 19 is bad for me. UTC 9 is okay, terrible for anyone west of me in the US.
16:02 cait        date is wrong, but lookign for an alternative time suggestion
16:01 cait        http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160413T09&msg=Koha%20Developers%20IRC%20Meeting&low=c
16:01 cait        I am playing with the meeting thing right now
16:01 barton      cait: you'd think that we'd all be excellent with timezones by now... but no. I'm right there with you.
16:01 cait        so for the time, any suggestions?
15:59 bag         but khall can be here for me
15:59 cait        i am so bad with timezones
15:59 bag         13 or 14 yes
15:59 cait        hm 7am nz i think
15:59 bag         not 10-12th
15:59 cait        bag:  would another day in this week wrk for you?
15:59 bag         I’m not around on the 11th
15:58 cait        9pm
15:58 cait        and quite late here too
15:58 cait        it's ... 5 am? in nz
15:58 cait        UTC 19 doesn't work well, i tihnk partly because of daylight savings
15:57 cait        hehe
15:57 cait        11th maybe?
15:57 oleonard    Bring your light sabers.
15:56 cait        may 4th is the next genral meeting
15:56 cait        #topic Set time of next meeting
15:56 khall       afk, brb
15:56 cait        thx barton
15:56 barton      #link http://editorconfig.org/#download
15:55 cait        anything else we should discuss ?
15:55 cait        thx!
15:55 cait        #action tcohen to write up some documentation about the use of editorconfig
15:55 * tcohen    volunteers
15:55 cait        hm is someone volunteering to write up something about use of editorconfig?
15:54 tcohen      http://editorconfig.org/#download
15:54 pianohacker or it does, rather
15:54 barton      nod, but it would be a pain if there were a mis-match.
15:54 pianohacker it doesn't have cuddled else, for one (thank god)
15:54 pianohacker khall: well, not quite
15:54 pianohacker barton: editorconfig covers a much more narrow spectrum
15:54 khall       barton: our perltidy is the default
15:53 tcohen      all of them support it
15:53 tcohen      geany, sublime, atom, vim
15:53 barton      do our perltidy rules match .editorconfig?
15:53 khall       baby brain ; )
15:53 pianohacker oh okay
15:53 pianohacker (not tabs rather)
15:53 khall       just found it
15:53 pianohacker khall: wait, what? tabs aren't codified?
15:53 khall       PERL6
15:53 bag         I seem to remember 4 spaces too
15:52 cait        at some irc meeting we probably would have a hard time to locate the logs for
15:52 oleonard    4 spaces... interesting...
15:52 cait        the 4 spaces
15:52 cait        i think it was decided actually
15:52 tcohen      that's what's inside of it
15:52 tcohen      charset = utf-8
15:52 tcohen      # New files charset should be UTF-8
15:52 tcohen      indent_size = 4
15:52 tcohen      indent_style = space
15:52 tcohen      # 4 space indentation
15:52 tcohen      insert_final_newline = true
15:52 tcohen      end_of_line = lf
15:52 tcohen      # Unix-style newlines with a newline ending every file
15:52 khall       we can just point to the .editorconfig as the rules to follow
15:52 * cait      hides
15:52 khall       it comes to mind that we don't have a rule about tabs vs spaces, even though that is a defacto rule as well
15:52 tcohen      it is just a single line :-D, but yes
15:51 cait        and then later we can link it?
15:51 cait        i think maybe have a separate page
15:51 tcohen      pianohacker: yes
15:50 pianohacker tcohen: all of the editor integrations require a plugin, correct?
15:50 tcohen      it configures the editor to match the coding guidelines!
15:50 khall       indeed!
15:50 pianohacker tcohen yes, including how to integrate it
15:50 cait        what does it do?
15:50 tcohen      most editors support it
15:50 pianohacker oh, hey, yes we did
15:50 tcohen      we should have something about it on the wiki
15:50 tcohen      tree
15:50 tcohen      back in 2014, we added the .editorconfig file to the source tres
15:49 cait        tcohen: yep
15:49 cait        it's only 2 weeks to the may meeting - but we will try to have elections then I  think - as june will be too late
15:49 tcohen      can i add a comment about coding guidelines?
15:49 cait        please take a look... think about it... and sign yourself up :)
15:49 cait        #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_16.11
15:48 cait        #topic Nominations for release team 16.11
15:48 tcohen      sorry, boss asked for me at his office :-/
15:48 cait        but i have something else
15:48 cait        i got no more updates for qa - said everything earlier :)
15:48 pianohacker hallo
15:48 cait        i will move on
15:48 cait        hm so quiet
15:48 barton      #info Barton Chittenden, bws
15:47 cait        this was the e-mail with the bug lists
15:47 cait        #link http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2016-April/042582.html
15:47 cait        or concentrate on pending release issues for now?
15:47 cait        from the topics listed, shoudl we pick one to discuss more deeply?
15:45 cait        hm bug was missing
15:45 cait        16221 PQA   16140 In Discussion   16166 NSO (Improve L1 cache performance).   16105 NSO (Cache::Memory is loaded even if memcache is used)
15:45 cait        that would be good to have in the next release
15:44 cait        he also sent a list of bugs to the list - some of them performance related
15:44 cait        joubu suggested a couple of topics
15:43 khall       sounds good
15:43 cait        but yah, probably worth starting to go through them, maybe in groups by ten or so
15:43 wahanui     it has been said that In Discussion is probably good
15:43 khall       In Discussion
15:43 wahanui     ID is in $0 and $9.
15:43 cait        ID?
15:43 khall       maybe it's time to start triaging some of those. I imagine a good number  of ID bugs have been left for dead.
15:43 cait        #topic General development discussion
15:42 cait        FQA is pretty high too
15:42 cait        yeah... scary
15:42 oleonard    Wow... 213 in discussion!
15:42 cait        moving on?
15:42 cait        and put them on the agenda regularly
15:41 cait        maybe we can start picking some after the release
15:41 cait        true
15:40 jajm        a lot of bugs are still in discussion :)
15:40 cait        any bugs left? :)
15:40 cait        we covered a bit of that already earlier I think
15:40 cait        #topic Any bugs that are in discussion
15:39 cait        ok, moving on
15:39 cait        #action khall to add coding guideline about jquery form validation
15:39 cait        #agreed Coding guideline will be added - yes (5): oleonard, cait, jajm, bgkriegel, khall
15:39 khall       will do!
15:39 cait        khall: can you add it please?
15:39 huginn      yes (5): oleonard, cait, jajm, bgkriegel, khall
15:39 huginn      Voted on "Add coding guideline about use of jquery form validator as proposed?" Results are
15:39 cait        #endvote
15:39 cait        ending voooote....
15:38 bgkriegel   #vote yes
15:38 wahanui     i heard drojf was from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi!
15:38 cait        drojf?
15:38 jajm        #vote yes
15:38 bag         (sorry to be late - slow bus driver this morning)
15:38 cait        jajm? tcohen? bgkriegel?
15:38 bag         #info Brendan Gallagher Bywater
15:37 khall       #vote yes
15:37 cait        anyone? :)
15:37 cait        khall: ?
15:36 bag         morning
15:36 cait        #info Proposed wording: Form validation should be done using the jquery form validator unless the form validation will not work with its limitations. Custom validation rules for anythign which isn't already built in can be defined.
15:36 oleonard    #vote yes
15:36 cait        #vote yes
15:36 huginn      Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
15:36 huginn      Begin voting on: Add coding guideline about use of jquery form validator as proposed? Valid vote options are , yes, no, .
15:36 cait        #startvote Add coding guideline about use of jquery form validator as proposed? (yes,no)
15:36 khall       sounds good!
15:36 cait        Proposal: Form validation should be done using the jquery form validator unless the form validation will not work with its limitations. Custom validation rules for anythign which isn't already built in can be defined.
15:35 khall       JS7
15:35 khall       no, I'm thinking of the onload one
15:34 cait        maybe for next time
15:34 khall       yes, there's already a guideline for that
15:34 cait        yes, separate
15:34 oleonard    separate issue.
15:34 huginn      04Bug 16281: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Failed QA , Remove the use of "onclick" from Reports module
15:34 khall       that's in the global js
15:34 oleonard    khall: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16281#c2
15:34 khall       any form with the class 'validated' uses the validator, is that what you mean?
15:33 * khall     think he's not understanding something
15:33 cait        maybe we shoudl also document those a bit - what's in staff-global.js
15:33 oleonard    Yes, in staff-global.js. Many templates write a custom version of that.
15:33 wahanui     i heard khall was volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;)
15:33 cait        khall?
15:33 cait        :)
15:33 wahanui     i think wording is irritating me too indeed
15:33 cait        wording?
15:31 cait        hm i have also seen something on the bugs abut a 'global' confirm function or something?
15:31 khall       cait: the new guidelines will definitely have examples for everything where possible!
15:31 * cait      nods
15:31 khall       I think it's been a defacto rule
15:30 cait        i'd also like if some examples could be added on the wiki later
15:30 reiveune    bye
15:30 oleonard    I've been submitting patches as if that were already the rule, so of course you have my vote :)
15:30 cait        can we quickly compose a suggested wording?
15:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16286 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use validation plugin when adding or editing patron category
15:29 * oleonard  did so for Bug 16286
15:29 wahanui     even better is, like, what oleonard said just after that
15:29 khall       even better!
15:29 oleonard    You *should* be able to define a custom validation rule for anything which isn't already built in.
15:28 khall       I can't think of any form in Koha atm that would not work with it
15:28 khall       unless the form validation will not work with it's limitations
15:28 cait        sounds sensible, are there limitations to it we shoudl note?
15:28 khall       We should specify that form validation should use the jquery form validator we have
15:27 cait        #info khall is working on the draft for a revamped coding guidelines page
15:27 khall       I do have one
15:27 khall       right now I'm building out a "table of contents" before I start adding anything to it
15:27 cait        does someone want to make a new proposal?
15:27 khall       cait: afraid not ; ) I'm working on it though
15:26 cait        and I think khall just got back, so probably no update on the revamp? :)
15:26 cait        there have been no new proposals on the wiki
15:26 cait        #topic Review coding guidelines
15:25 cait        ok, so anyone taking a look please keep in mind that a condition will be the package
15:25 cait        thx gmcharlt
15:24 tcohen      just grab the .deb from testing
15:24 tcohen      +1
15:24 cait        not sure how you'd install the dependencies atm
15:24 cait        coudl we qa them with a questionmark?
15:23 cait        #action gmcharlt to look into feasibility of porting the swagger package on Monday and Tuesday
15:23 gmcharlt    I will look at feasiblity of porting the swagger package on Monday and Tuesday
15:23 cait        ok, moving on?
15:22 cait        #info kohadevbox:ansible has been updated so it now accepts external repositories, handy for testing packaging stuff
15:22 cait        #info Need info on status of Swagger2 packages for REST related patches
15:22 tcohen      so it installs it and people can test the ES branch
15:21 tcohen      and it includes Elasticsearch as an option switch
15:21 tcohen      that kohadevbox:ansible has been updated so it now accepts external repositories, handy for testing packaging stuff
15:21 bgkriegel   #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel
15:21 tcohen      i'd like to mention
15:20 cait        so anythign else people want to add?
15:20 cait        i'll put that on the list
15:19 cait        ok
15:18 tcohen      cait: we need gmcharlt to weight in
15:17 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15126 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , REST API: Use newer version of Swagger2
15:17 cait        bug 15126 - do we have a solution for this?
15:17 tcohen      pm
15:17 cait        #info 61 in Signed off - help needed for ES and REST related patches specifically
15:16 jajm        tcohen, why ? what is missing ?
15:15 cait        if you want me to - i need a really detailed documentation on how to get it to work - ideally for a git installation
15:15 tcohen      jajm: we still don't have REST on packages!
15:15 cait        d
15:15 cait        so i was hoping someone could take a look at those with a better backgroun
15:15 khall       tcohen: I'm going to dedicate some time to making sure ES doesn't break Zebra at the very least
15:15 cait        jajm: i have no idea where to start and how to set it up atm :(
15:14 jajm        cait, what kind of help do you need for REST ? maybe I can help
15:14 cait        #info Additional sign offs for ES requested to free QA tokens
15:14 tcohen      that could work
15:13 cait        maybe someone else could give it a test, so youcould count for qa?
15:13 tcohen      maybe khall?
15:13 tcohen      I already signed on the ES branch
15:13 cait        there are some things i need help with - for example ES and REST
15:12 oleonard    51 in the Passed-QA queue as well.
15:12 cait        also others, please help with testing and pushing things back in queue with follow-ups when asked as fast as possible
15:12 tcohen      -.-
15:12 cait        so everyone on QA team - please try and help get the numbers down
15:12 drojf       so qa is the bottleneck atm?
15:12 cait        that is good, but it is possible that we won't manage to get all through QA in time
15:11 cait        this is quite high compared to numbers the last few weeks - everyone is busy!
15:11 cait        the Signed Off queue is currently at 61
15:11 cait        from the QAM a few notes too maybe
15:11 khall       #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions
15:11 cait        #info Feature freeze will be at the end of the day - April 28!
15:10 tcohen      or khall
15:10 tcohen      we need bag
15:10 tcohen      is ficed already
15:10 cait        #topic Release 16.05
15:10 * cait      fixes
15:09 cait        release 16.05
15:09 oleonard    Did we lose khall already?
15:09 cait        hm i notice, there is a typo
15:09 cait        #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_20_April_2016
15:09 cait        ok, moving on?
15:09 cait        that's ok, I don't know either
15:08 * oleonard  has one, doesn't know how to be one
15:08 jajm        hi everyone
15:08 huginn      Current chairs: cait drojf oleonard
15:08 cait        #chair oleonard
15:08 jajm        #info Julian Maurice, BibLibre
15:08 drojf       i paid 5 euro for it, thansk deutsche bahn
15:08 drojf       sorry
15:08 drojf       and will likely drop off
15:08 drojf       i have lousy internet
15:08 drojf       i am not a backup
15:08 cait        #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
15:07 cait        just a backup :)
15:07 tcohen      #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
15:07 huginn      Current chairs: cait drojf
15:07 cait        #chair drojf
15:07 drojf       #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany
15:07 oleonard    #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA
15:07 cait        please introduce yourself with #info
15:07 cait        #topic Intorductions
15:07 huginn      The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_20_april_2016'
15:07 huginn      Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
15:07 huginn      Meeting started Wed Apr 20 15:07:09 2016 UTC.  The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:07 cait        #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 20 April 2016
15:07 cait        ok
15:06 cait        pullign up the agenda
15:06 oleonard    Or perhaps you forgot your longitude cait?
15:06 cait        forgot the time
15:06 cait        i am here
15:05 cait        oh
15:04 * oleonard  shouldn't assume to know whether or not khall is located at zero degrees longitude!
15:04 drojf       we're all in the utc timezone. just the + or - is different :P
15:03 * oleonard  shouldn't assume to know whether or not khall is in UTC time zone!
15:02 oleonard    3PM UTC: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+Developers+IRC+Meeting&iso=20160420T15
15:02 khall       I thought it was at 3
15:01 oleonard    So, uh... Is there a meeting now?
15:00 khall       yo
15:00 oleonard    khall? Joubu? Here?
14:56 wahanui     i think meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then
14:56 tcohen      meeting?
14:56 tcohen      tags-ux--
14:46 marcelr     have to go; bye all
14:21 oleonard    Bleen is the color which is better than the one you were thinking of using.
14:20 drojf       you should discuss that too
14:20 cait        hw does that look like?
14:19 drojf       +1 for bleen if my internet does not work when we vote
14:18 cait        bleen?
14:18 * oleonard  votes for all the things
14:17 drojf       so we discuss colors? \o/
14:17 oleonard    Oh yay a meeting I will be at!
14:17 cait        thx marcelr
14:16 marcelr     15 utc is 1700 here
14:16 cait        hope i am not wrong
14:16 drojf       oh. my bad then
14:16 cait        drojf: i think 5pm?
14:15 marcelr     i will do qa on friday
14:15 cait        marcelr: i think Joubu is not around the next days - any dent in the queue much appreciated
14:15 marcelr     yeah apr 28 ?
14:15 cait        marcelr: did you see the feature freeze date?
14:15 drojf       i thought the meeting is now?
14:15 cait        marcelr: thx for letting me know
14:14 marcelr     cait: i will miss the meeting (unfortunately too)
13:59 huginn      marcelr: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 20 weeks, 5 days, 18 hours, 5 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> tcohen++
13:59 marcelr     @seen bgkriegel
13:57 marcelr     bgkriegel++
13:45 tcohen      hey magnuse
13:45 * magnuse   wanders off - have a nice meeting #koha!
13:44 tcohen      sorry
13:39 tcohen      i built master packages for using in kohadevbox so we are fine for testing the latest packages-specific things there, but I was worried the update-control script only ran in squeeze
13:39 drojf       i'll try
13:39 drojf       i have a poor connection, i may not make it to the meeting
13:38 gmcharlt    tcohen: at the moment, I don't expect to have much time before Sunday
13:38 gmcharlt    tcohen: not yet
13:37 tcohen      gmcharlt: have a question, have you managed to successfuly run debian/update-control I tried in Jessie and resulted in odd entries
13:37 tcohen      hi drojf
13:36 marcelr     hi drojf
13:34 drojf       hi #koha
13:32 wahanui     well, it's morning somewhere, yes
13:32 tcohen      gmcharlt: good morning
12:56 tcohen      hey marcelr
12:53 marcelr     hi tcohen oleonard
12:52 tcohen      hi oleonard
12:43 oleonard    Hi tcohen
12:42 tcohen      morning
12:01 oleonard    Hi all
11:19 nlegrand    hey marcelr cait magnuse o/
11:18 cait        meeting in a bit less than 4 hours!
11:18 * cait      waves
11:18 marcelr     hi magnuse nlegrand
11:17 magnuse     hiya nlegrand and marcelr
11:16 nlegrand    hey #koha
11:12 marcelr     hi #koha
11:00 magnuse     kia ora gmcharlt
10:18 * magnuse   waves too
10:17 * Francesca waves
09:59 lds         ok trouvé
09:54 huginn      jcamins: The operation succeeded.
09:54 jcamins     @later tell dcook Oh, yeah.
09:24 lds         cait: yep :)
09:24 cait        lds: quiet this morning , maybe mailinglist?
08:54 lds         my point is dont work
08:54 lds         on trusty apache version is 2.4.7, so the configuration set in /etc/koha/apache-shared-opac-plack.conf, dont work, or work ?
08:52 lds         i have a question whith plack on koha 3.22. i read in "/etc/koha/apache-shared-opac-plack.conf" plack is only available out-of-the-box for Apache 2.4.7+ setups, but the apache version is set to  >= 2.4.8 in <IfVersion >= 2.4.8>
08:49 wahanui     hey, lds
08:49 lds         hello
07:11 dcook       Ciao!
07:11 dcook       Hungry infant to feed though
07:11 dcook       Well, it's only 5:11pm so it's OK
07:11 dcook       :O
07:10 magnuse     i have been in front of my screen for almost an hour, just forgot to wave
07:09 magnuse     hehe
07:09 dcook       Now I definitely need to leave :p
07:09 dcook       heya magnuse
07:08 * magnuse   waves
06:59 dcook       Heya :)
06:57 reiveune    hi dcook
06:56 * dcook     waves to reiveune and alex_a
06:56 dcook       Oh no, if the Europeans are here, it means it's almost time to leave!
06:56 wahanui     kia ora, alex_a
06:56 alex_a      bonjour
06:56 wahanui     salut, reiveune
06:56 reiveune    hello
06:55 dcook       Hmm, I should provide more info for http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/sru.html#sru_search...
05:44 huginn      cait: downloading the Perl source
05:44 cait        @wizzyrea hm, saw your note in the logs - the userid should not be mandatory on import, just not generate one if have one in your file that's a double up with an existing - if it's different now, that's not intended