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23:05 DooRooK Well, I still have no clues, the permission are set, the report is made, plugin seems to be installed (Can see it made the opacuserjs) and the alias are also set in the apache2 file my library
22:49 kidclamp good luck DooRooK
22:49 kidclamp if you still have issues
22:49 kidclamp and I am leaving for the weekend, but email the listserv or find me on monday
22:48 kidclamp the stanza mentioned in github instructions
22:48 kidclamp if on jessie you need to add
22:48 kidclamp make sure that apache can access and write the pluginsdir
22:48 kidclamp Try the github directions
22:48 DooRooK hmmm, haven't checked, the directory was made by koha
22:47 kidclamp Are the permissions for the directory set right?
22:47 DooRooK and nothing appear in my OPAC
22:47 DooRooK it seems that the files where the plugin should be installed are not there. /var/lib/koha/mylib/plugin remain empty
22:46 kidclamp ?
22:46 kidclamp so you have plugin installed as per directions here: https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-plugin-coverflow
22:46 DooRooK i'm following this tutorial : http://bywatersolutions.com/2014/08/18/koha-coverflow-plugin/
22:45 kidclamp Where are you having problems?
22:45 DooRooK I'm having issue trying to make it works
22:45 kidclamp Many times DooRooK
22:45 kidclamp Many times DooRooL
22:44 DooRooK Has anyone already tried to install the CoverFlow plugin ?
22:44 DooRooK Hey Koha IRC.
20:53 beatsforthemind ah, thanks
20:50 cait biblioitems.marcxml
20:49 beatsforthemind Actually, is the MARC data for records that Zebra is indexing stored in the database?
20:34 beatsforthemind querying*
20:34 beatsforthemind At that point query the database directly might be a decent option as well.
20:32 drojf *including
20:32 drojf you can make the sql query output whatever you need. inclusing the marcxml blob
20:31 beatsforthemind The repo I linked for parsing marcxml works pretty great
20:30 beatsforthemind It sort of gives me what I’m looking for. It doesn’t replicate a general search and the flat json might be little hard to work with.
20:25 drojf it's probably easier to work with than zebra ;)
20:22 beatsforthemind This might work
20:22 drojf yes it uses sql queries. so it's not going to be a copy of the zebra search
20:20 barton drojf++
20:20 drojf http://opac.abunchofthings.net/cgi-bin/koha/svc/report?id=1
20:17 cait but it could work... but works direclty on the mysql database then
20:17 barton or depengng on the query ;-)
20:17 cait drojf: depending on the size of the db it might be a bit slow
20:16 barton beatsforthemind: if you make the report public, it's available as a web service. I forget how the url is constructed off hand.
20:15 beatsforthemind How do you generate this JSON?
20:13 drojf i used a public report in koha for a webapp once. that gave me JSON of my query result to use in the webapp. maybe that is an option here too
20:10 pianohacker_DND yup
20:08 drojf i think
20:08 drojf ES uses lucene. like solr does
20:07 beatsforthemind Does elastic search implement another server tech like Lucene or Solr?
20:04 beatsforthemind I guess my skills as a developer might not be were they need to be for me to replicate what is going on there.
20:03 cait as someone pointed out earlier, there is some logic in search.pm that you probably can't replicate with sru - but might not have to
20:02 cait but maybe it's not so bad if you don#t get a perfect replicate
20:02 beatsforthemind But, they also want to do a general search on records that have a specific tag
20:02 cait yeah sru should be right then
20:02 cait hm
20:01 beatsforthemind They also want to be able to return records by tag, I’ve figured this out.
20:00 beatsforthemind Using Zebra I was parsing the MARCXML response with this -> https://github.com/scriptotek/php-marc
19:58 beatsforthemind They want to get the results of a kw,wrdl search and place them on a different site.
19:57 beatsforthemind A client (non-profit enviromental org) is looking to query their Koha database and use the records on another website (WordPress).
19:57 barton beatsforthemind: I think that I would be leaning toward elasticsearch.
19:56 cait maybe we could suggest something if we have a better idea about your project
19:56 cait i mean, what do you want to use it for?
19:56 cait hm yeah, but waht for?
19:56 beatsforthemind So building a URL alonf the lines of http://myserver.com:9999/biblios?version=1.1&operation=searchRetrieve&query=water&startRecord=1&maximumRecords=10&recordSchema=marcxml
19:54 beatsforthemind Looking to more less replicate the ‘Search the catalog’ search through a URL query of the Zebra SRU.
19:53 cait i mean, what are you trying to do?
19:53 cait beatsforthemind: what's your goal?
19:43 beatsforthemind Is there anyway to use Search.pm to return results outside of Koha?
19:12 tcohen later #koha
19:10 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:10 tcohen @later tell mtompset please check what happened to t/db_dependent/Filter_MARC_ViewPolicy.t that seems to completely fail here
18:57 * oleonard whispers, "Happy weekend everyone"
18:02 oleonard Many a Koha developer has wished for Search.pm's death.
18:02 beatsforthemind It’s ok, this chatroom has been helpful
18:02 oleonard Also, saying "This is a fairly complicated file" about Search.pm is quite the understatement.
18:01 oleonard beatsforthemind: I'm sorry you're having such bad luck getting answers. I wish I knew what to suggest.
17:49 oleonard The printer works?!
17:49 oleonard eythian: I find that comic to be completely unrealistic.
17:46 beatsforthemind Is there anyway to log the exact query that is being built?
17:39 beatsforthemind x-pquery?
17:39 beatsforthemind or that query type
17:39 beatsforthemind It would be nice if there were more examples of how to use @attr
17:31 eythian http://nedroid.com/2016/04/mr-fix-computer-2/ <-- teehee
17:30 beatsforthemind This is a fairly complicated file
17:25 * cait waves
17:19 beatsforthemind I am looking through it
17:19 beatsforthemind thanks
17:17 pianohacker beatsforthemind: Search.pm should be in /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ , then
17:17 beatsforthemind /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac
17:16 pianohacker beatsforthemind: where on your server is opac-search.pl?
17:08 drojf rain stopped, gotta go. later #koha
17:07 beatsforthemind I do
17:07 drojf do you have access to the server?
17:06 beatsforthemind Where can I find that file?
17:06 drojf throw breadcrumbs to find your way out again
17:06 drojf good luck
17:06 drojf "want"
17:06 pianohacker specifically parseQuery
17:06 pianohacker beatsforthemind: Search.pm is where you'll want to look
17:05 beatsforthemind I’ve been looking at opac-search.pl
17:05 beatsforthemind I’m decent with PHP, haven’t done much with Perl
17:04 pianohacker beatsforthemind: you comfortable with Perl?
17:04 beatsforthemind I would love to be able to recreate the default ‘Search the catalog’ Zebra query
17:03 pianohacker beatsforthemind: the query sent off to Zebra by Koha is actually rather complex, with a lot of extra stuff to do relevance ranking and (if desired) fuzzy searching, query stemming, etc
16:54 drojf so much for shopping
16:53 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 12.0°C (6:50 PM CEST on April 15, 2016). Conditions: Thunderstorm. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
16:53 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
16:53 drojf woah
16:28 oleonard Bye Joubu
16:23 Joubu see you #koha, have a good wwek-end!
16:18 beatsforthemind Doing a Zebra ’searchRetrieve’ with a single ‘query’ term returns different results (or at least in a different order) than doing a ‘Search the catalog’ search with the same term.
16:15 beatsforthemind Recreating a ‘Search for 'kw,wrdl: term’’ search
16:14 beatsforthemind What would be the Zebra SRU equivalent of doing a ‘Search the catalog’ search?
16:08 ianb_ great. Thank you for this. I looked quite deeply into it on our system a month or two back but didn't crack it at the time. We thought we had tried most things. Have a good weekend and look forward to chatting next week.
16:07 drojf Joubu++
16:06 talljoy and i am the person you are looking for!
16:06 talljoy i'll be reviewing the set up over the weekend (i'm on weekend duty) and i'll have a better sense of the setup/issues/config/etc next week if you want to ping me
16:05 ianb_ ...Are you the right person to know the setup on that system for matching authorities for import/overlay?
16:05 ianb_ Arte
16:04 ianb_ Not only clocking out time but got to find cat and dog and take to the vet soon :-(
16:03 talljoy no worries.
16:03 talljoy you must be in england.
16:03 talljoy wasn't expecting you so soon ianb_ i understand it is close to 'clocking out' time!
16:03 talljoy i'm here.
16:03 ianb_ Hi. forgive me if slow: I've not used irc for years
16:02 bag talljoy1 ^^^^
16:02 bag morning
16:01 ianb_ Hi. Is Joy (Nelson) there? I was wanting to check who might know the authority search config on Heather Hernandez's system
15:56 gaetan_B bye
15:46 Joubu same for me
15:45 pianohacker this feels like one of those unnecessarily high speedbumps
15:45 pianohacker ...
15:45 Joubu tables.
15:45 Joubu the schema files to include local testing cruft such as temporary
15:45 Joubu the chance that a developer (or release manager) accidentally updates
15:45 Joubu The purpose of this is to intentionally put up a roadblock to reduce
15:45 Joubu pianohacker: e0b0ae20531736ede2cd1113baf16323cb69b3d9
15:44 pianohacker why?
15:44 pianohacker ?
15:42 Joubu but found that it was the original behavior and it was considered as a bug
15:42 Joubu I have tried to make it use KOHA_CONF automatically some weeks ago
15:40 Joubu ha yes, indeed
15:40 oleonard It says it does
15:39 Joubu the script does not take db_user and db_passwd as parameter, you will have to manually edit the file
15:38 oleonard Thanks tcohen
15:35 tcohen ?
15:35 tcohen git clone .../koha.git kohaclone ; cd kohaclone
15:34 oleonard top-level koha source tree?
15:33 tcohen ah, run it on your top-level koha source tree
15:33 tcohen misc/devel/update_dbix_class_files.pl --help will tell you the params
15:33 tcohen if your user needs a password for the DB
15:32 tcohen perl misc/devel/update_dbix_class_files.pl --db_name dbic
15:32 tcohen and finally
15:32 tcohen mysql dbic < installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql
15:32 tcohen then you do
15:31 tcohen say > CREATE DATABASE dbic;
15:31 tcohen (no tables)
15:31 tcohen oleonard: you need a clean DB
15:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , show 'Borrower has previously issued $ITEM' alert on checkout
15:27 oleonard Bug 6906 test plan says "Regenerate Koha Schema files." How do I do that?
15:15 tcohen Joubu: I can QA it
15:14 tcohen oleonard: what about 'for the ability to understand whats going on under the hood'?
15:14 oleonard Hm. I am reluctant to sacrifice a goat for a bug fix tcohen
15:14 Joubu tcohen: keeping the QA token
15:13 tcohen problem with that oleonard is that it requires black magic
15:12 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
15:12 tcohen @later tell Joubu shouldn't you sign 16221?
15:12 tcohen hehe
15:11 oleonard I said *super* awesome, so like 11 or 12.
15:11 tcohen oleonard: how awesome in a 1-10 scale?
15:02 reiveune bye
15:01 wahanui okay, eythian.
15:01 eythian wahanui: better is also better than not better at all
15:01 wahanui ...but better is "take cover." :)...
15:01 eythian wahanui: better is better than not better at all
14:19 oleonard https://36.media.tumblr.com/a1853aa8551717f205b27501e3265068/tumblr_o312ke6aBz1ultu3qo2_1280.jpg
14:16 Joubu +1 :)
14:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15816 major, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Timeout login redirects to home page
14:15 oleonard It would be super-awesome if someone were to swoop in and fix Bug 15816
14:02 oleonard Happy weekend magnuse
13:59 * magnuse calls it a week - have fun #koha!
13:26 eythian http://mycli.net/ <-- this is handy, btw
13:15 cait i will think some more about it - thx for the help
13:15 cait eythian: not really an option right now
13:08 eythian cait: log zebra queries and see what it's doing there.
13:06 tcohen oleonard: poor-typing-skilled friends you mean
13:03 cait *sigh*
13:03 cait all search prefs identical
13:02 cait identical zebra config files too
13:01 cait the instances run on the same server and koha code... so I thought it was configuration,b ut comparig prefs... it looks identical so far
13:01 cait [off] https://palatina-search.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=rcn:281513562 https://hs-lorsch.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=rcn:375416552
13:00 eythian yeah, that would be surprising
13:00 cait i'd expect it to be not sorted etc.... but that seems odd
13:00 cait eythian: it just appears strange that the sorting seems so perfect... just the other way around
12:59 cait the searches i compare are both searches for rcn with an identifier - so pretty similar
12:59 eythian but, rule of thumb is that unless you're asking for an ordering with anything, there's no promised ordering.
12:58 cait yeah zebrea
12:58 eythian though, is this a search through zebra? because that could be different again.
12:58 cait thx!
12:58 cait eythian: i will check that
12:58 eythian maybe, probably
12:58 cait well without any order by
12:58 cait is the order in mysql workbench the one it should be in? without sort?
12:57 cait how could i check that?
12:57 cait hmmm
12:57 eythian e
12:57 eythian cait: only if you're lucky, it's not a promis
12:57 oleonard Only Joubu's special friends get to call him Joubuy
12:57 cait eythian: but biblionumbers are database order....
12:57 cait eythian: the bilbionumbers appear nicely sorted
12:55 tcohen morning Joubu
12:55 tcohen morning Joubuy
12:54 tcohen hi oleonard #koha
12:53 oleonard Hi #koha
12:51 eythian are you sure it's falling back, and not doing database order (which is to say, undefined)
12:49 cait and then it falls back to biblionumber... but one catalog does asc and the other desc :(
12:49 cait eythian: the sorting is right - but it's all the same as far as i can tell - same year
12:14 drojf brb
12:14 drojf Joubu: true, the files gets deleted by the build process. don't know where, but at least i know why now, thanks
12:10 drojf but now we made party plans!
12:05 cait mabe they will change times again... there is still time for that
12:03 drojf i was just starting to type that
12:03 cait and not now.... in Berlin ;)
12:02 cait i hope i don't forget that
12:02 cait please ask me if i checked in online...
12:02 cait and hope everything works out there
12:02 cait well we will start the party at the airport
12:02 drojf :D
12:02 cait hehe
12:02 cait we can still go out and party ;)
12:02 drojf so we have to party that evening!
12:01 drojf cait: the early flight is not really a better option i think. but paying the night without any time in the evening is annoying
11:59 eythian this weekend
11:59 cait eythian: tsk
11:59 cait but he wnted to return in between i think?
11:59 cait and atheia
11:58 eythian I haven't booked yet, lazy.
11:58 drojf zeno is not going to greece. not sure which flight pianohacker is going to take. eythian maybe?
11:57 cait no... but there would have been the option :)
11:57 cait do you know if somene else is ont hat flight now too?
11:57 drojf you already had dinner plans for thessaloniki?
11:57 cait puts a dent in dinner plans
11:57 cait yeah
11:57 drojf with getting the luggage, getting to the hotel and all :/
11:57 cait so would have been 19:30 i think?
11:57 drojf oh thats really late
11:56 cait 16:00
11:56 drojf what was the old one?
11:56 cait 17:15 - 20:45
11:56 cait yeah
11:56 drojf oh!
11:56 Joubu drojf: it happened when I was playing with pbuilder
11:56 cait i can check sec
11:56 cait i think we get in after eight now
11:55 drojf Joubu: did you find a way to make it stay? or will we delete it because it wants to die?
11:55 drojf cait: how much later is it now? i did not spend much attention
11:55 Joubu drojf: yep exactly
11:54 drojf Joubu: did it get deleted accidentally for you too?
11:53 Joubu drojf: that's funny, I noticed its existence this morning!
11:51 cait drojf: bit anoying - now it will get late until we get to thessaloniki
11:51 cait sorry, meeting...
11:39 drojf whenever i commit something, that damn file is going away
11:39 drojf C4/Auth_cas_servers.yaml.orig is driving me nuts. how the hell can i make it not get deleted all the time?
11:06 jcamins Yes, that's something that I thought about during 3.12.
11:03 drojf we should probably get rid of koha completely and eventually rename koha-common to koha?
11:02 jcamins At least, that's how I see it.
11:02 jcamins drojf: no, koha-common is more functional, and easier to set up since koha didn't quite work the way it was planned.
10:54 drojf uh that coffee made me want to do a lot of stuff… simultanously
10:52 drojf is there a use case when you would want koha instead of koha-common, because you can't achieve what you want to do with koha-common? or would it just be simpler to set up maybe? (less options)
10:51 drojf hm ok… so it is limited to a part of what koha-common can do? or is there something that only koha can do?
10:50 jcamins drojf: it can only be used for a single instance, which is preconfigured.
10:49 drojf jcamins: the koha package? what was it supposed to do differently?
10:48 jcamins drojf: it was never really finished.
10:30 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:30 Joubu @later tell tcohen Tomas, wake up!
10:08 drojf i can upload one if you like ;)
10:07 Joubu ha, never heard about that package
10:07 drojf Joubu: when you build your own you get one
10:05 Joubu N: Unable to locate package koha
10:04 drojf does it work at all? does anyone use it? what is the difference to koha-common?
10:04 drojf a few days ago i accidentally installed koha insteads of koha-common. that made me wonder what we are going to do with that?
09:43 Joubu rangi brought some nice cans in Cordoba, I tasted a Saison which was really good. I Don't remember the name, but the can was nice
09:43 drojf is anyone using catmandu to create marc recods from non-marc sources?
09:41 eythian Joubu: I have the t-shirt of that one
09:40 Joubu eythian: the "Aro noir" looks great :)
09:38 drojf lol
09:38 magnuse -2%26p_p_col_pos%3D2%26p_p_col_count%3D4%26facet_queries%3D%26search_item_no%3D0%26sort_advice%3Dfield%253DRelevance%2526direction%253DDescending%26search_item_id%3D57847%26agency_name%3DASE100189%26search_type%3Dsolr&facet_queries=&search_item_no=0&sort_advice=field%3DRelevance%26direction%3DDescending&search_type=solr&arena_member_id=360354316&search_item_id=57847&agency_name=ASE100189
09:38 magnuse gotta love it when the link to detail view looks like this http://bibliotek.alingsas.se/web/pub/results?p_p_state=normal&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_action=1&p_p_id=crDetailWicket_WAR_arenaportlets&p_p_col_count=4&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_pos=2&p_p_mode=view&back_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbibliotek.alingsas.se%2Fweb%2Fpub%2Fresults%3Fp_p_id%3DcrDetailWicket_WAR_arenaportlets%26p_p_lifecycle%3D1%26p_p_state%3Dnormal%26p_p_mode%3Dview%26p_p_col_id%3Dcolumn
09:33 eythian http://idealog.co.nz/design/2015/07/beautiful-beer-garage-projects-alcoholic-art <-- also, you get better designs
09:33 drojf or at the construction site we work at ;)
09:33 drojf we drink our beer from the bottle. right in the street
09:32 drojf fancyshmancy
09:32 drojf ugh
09:32 eythian also, you put your beer into a glass unless you're some sort of heathen.
09:31 eythian drojf: well, you're held back from good quality beer by 500 years of silly tradition anyway :)
09:31 drojf i would not mind glutenberg bringing over their cans though. from canada to berlin would make more sense in cans
09:31 magnuse flaskebarn in norwegian
09:31 magnuse hehe
09:31 drojf flaschenkind
09:31 drojf that is probably something only working in german :D
09:31 magnuse good point?
09:31 drojf i am a bottle child
09:30 drojf i never liked canned beer
09:30 wahanui magnuse: I forgot good point
09:30 magnuse wahanui: forget good point
09:30 wahanui I know! The blade went right through that child!
09:30 magnuse good point?
09:30 ashimema there's aren't many good ales in cans over here.. and I'm not the biggest lager drinker.. though it has it's time and place too
09:30 eythian especially if it's something you're storing.
09:29 eythian in NZ cans are getting more and more popular due to the improvement in quality
09:29 ashimema they deffo pack better though.. I'll give you that
09:29 wahanui I know! The blade went right through that child!
09:29 drojf eythian: good point
09:29 ashimema just usual don't have good beer in them to start with in this country ;)
09:29 eythian drojf: that's why they're making a brew bar in berlin
09:28 ashimema mwah.. I still like bottles.. but I'm not snobby against cans really
09:28 drojf hm yeah sustainability is not shipping your beer around the world :P
09:28 eythian it's really a lot better
09:28 ashimema never would have guessed the seal was better especially though
09:28 eythian they're also more efficient as they pack better.
09:28 ashimema the light I can understand
09:28 ashimema me too ;)
09:28 eythian ashimema: lower oxidation rate due to a better seal, and less light let in primarily.
09:28 drojf i think that is a lie :P
09:27 ashimema what's the science behind cans being better than bottles for beer then eythian?
09:27 eythian yep
09:27 drojf if they make beer from stones, that should work for me. stones are gluten free, right? :)
09:26 eythian also, cans are better for beer than bottles, Germany is a bit behind on the good beer front these days :)
09:26 eythian they're a good brewery
09:26 magnuse "Debean Squeez Script" has been deleted
09:25 drojf their web page says that a) they value sustainability and b) they distribute beer in cans. lol
09:23 drojf not sure what that is?
09:23 eythian drojf: Stone Brewery is opening a brewbar type thing in Berlin
09:23 drojf more time for sight seeing in berlin ;)
09:22 drojf cait: yep got a new time
09:22 drojf hi #koha
09:20 eythian are they sorting at all?
09:19 cait ok, why would one database sort bilbionumber asc and the other biblionumber desc if the sort criteria is the same otherwise?
09:18 cait huh
09:16 eythian that was a seriously useless page. Why are there "sudo halt" statments everywhere?
09:16 cait i think it was something like {{obsolete}} or similar - shoudl be on other pages too
09:16 cait you can use an Obsolete thing maybe
09:15 cait me neither it hnk
09:12 Joubu I emptied it but it seems that I don't have the rights to delete it
09:12 Joubu Could someone delete that page https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debean_Squeez_Script?
09:03 cait hi atheia :)
09:03 atheia hello #koha :-)
08:51 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
08:51 cait @later tell drojf did you get changed flight times too?
07:49 magnuse someone was asking about it earlier
07:47 cait hm shoudl be, why?
07:45 magnuse wasn't OPACSMALLIMAGE removed when we got the bootstrap theme for the opac?
07:44 Joubu v
07:37 cait morning all :)
07:37 LibraryClaire morning
07:28 gaetan_B hello
07:27 marcelr hi cait
07:25 cait morning #koha
07:20 Joubu Dangu: What is supposed to do this option?
07:07 Dangu do you have any ideas ?
07:07 Dangu Hello everyone. I'm trying to customize a koha installation (which is 3.22 btw). I saw that there should be an option named OPACSMALLIMAGE, but it's nowhere to be found either in opac preference setting or by searching the option with the "search-field"
07:00 marcelr hi #koha
06:59 wahanui que tal, reiveune
06:59 reiveune hello
06:57 wahanui kia ora, Joubu
06:57 Joubu hi
06:22 * magnuse waves