Time Nick Message 00:36 oleonard @later tell cait Bug 16237 has a signoff 00:36 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded. 00:37 bag nice :) 00:42 * Francesca waves 00:57 kidclamp rangi - from fresh or upgraded db no upgrade errors, can create and edit authorities and they are indexed, searches work in staff and opac, aquisitions searches work, what else to test? 01:01 bag he’s probably at lunch kidclamp 01:03 kidclamp @later tell rangi I have tested all the things I can think of (authorities,staff/opac, facets, acquisitions searching, importing) from fresh db and upgrade. Can I sign off? 01:03 huginn kidclamp: The operation succeeded. 01:32 rangi kidclamp: that sounds like everything 01:32 rangi I cant think of anything else 01:33 kidclamp so do I put a sign off on the bug? 01:33 kidclamp or just announce in all caps here? ;-) 01:36 bag CAPS everywhere!!! 01:37 rangi ideally, you would checkout the branch, do a run through marking each patch signed off, push it up somewhere, and say its signed off, then i can pull that in and make the branch git.koha-community.org be that one 01:37 bag kidclamp: you can push up to our github right? 01:37 kidclamp I can 01:37 bag sweet there we go :) 01:43 kidclamp do you know how many patches ti is rangi? 01:43 rangi 8 million 01:43 rangi (a lot) 01:43 bag you probably can git log and score back until you don’t see any signoffs? 01:43 bag scroll 01:43 martin_ hey everyone 01:43 wahanui hmmm... everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver 01:43 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new_12478_elasticsearch 01:44 kidclamp yeah, I just kept losing count 01:44 rangi all the way down to the master tag 01:44 rangi there was a trick to do a bunch at once eh? 01:44 rangi i think its on the wiki 01:44 rangi hi martin_ 01:44 kidclamp 80 01:44 martin_ I have a question - I migrated a system to the new 3.22 - since migration the notices will not work. I have looked at crontab, etc. nothing works 01:45 rangi are they being queued in the table in the database? 01:45 martin_ advanced_notices are set to "allow" 01:45 martin_ I used the queued_message.pl 01:45 martin_ but not sure 01:45 martin_ is there a way to check if they are being queued? 01:46 martin_ that may be the problem 01:46 bag yup 80 patches kidclamp 01:46 rangi yep look at the message_queue table in the db 01:46 martin_ ok - thanks 01:47 martin_ I can't even express how frustrating this has been 01:47 bag wow kidclamp too bad that’s just one signed off and not 80 - you’d be champ of the year with that :D 01:47 martin_ :) 01:47 kidclamp mveron would still pwn me 01:47 kidclamp that guy is the sign off king 01:47 bag mveron++ 01:48 bag he is awesome 01:48 kidclamp bag rangi: https://github.com/bywatersolutions/bywater-koha-devel/tree/ES-sign-off 01:48 bag cool kidclamp can you change the bug to signed off too? 01:48 rangi ill grab that and push it up now, thanks 01:51 kidclamp alright, now is for beer 01:51 rangi well earned 01:52 kidclamp I did the easy parts 01:52 kidclamp eythian++ 01:52 kidclamp rangi++ 01:52 kidclamp tcohen++ 01:52 kidclamp drojf++ 01:52 kidclamp Joubu++ 01:52 kidclamp koha++ 01:52 kidclamp bag++ 01:52 kidclamp cait++ 01:52 kidclamp kohadevbox++ 01:52 kidclamp allthethings++ 01:52 bag beer++ 01:52 kidclamp have a good night all! 01:53 bag night night kidclamp 01:53 rangi done 01:55 bag excellent 01:55 bag any Qa’ers still awake? 01:58 martin_ hey - I just checked 01:58 martin_ messages are queued 01:58 rangi cool 01:59 martin_ but still no dice on getting message out 01:59 rangi so whats in your mail.log ? (or similar) 01:59 martin_ ok will check 02:04 martin_ sorry had to refresh browser 02:04 martin_ mail.log is empty 02:04 martin_ I found it under var 02:07 martin_ child woke up and is crying - have to go --I'll try again later - THANKS! 02:09 bag @later tell martin_ check to see if you have process_message_queue set up as a cronjob 02:09 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 02:37 bag alright I am outta 04:23 Francesca hello! 04:31 wizzyrea hi Francesca 04:31 Francesca heya 04:32 Francesca I have a day off tomorrow! 04:32 wizzyrea \o/ 04:32 Francesca so I can come to pizza thursday 04:32 Francesca and work for more than half a day 04:32 Francesca my lecture tomorrow got cancelled 04:32 wizzyrea woohoo! 04:33 Francesca I shouldn't be happy but I am 04:33 Francesca not attending lectures is fun 04:33 Francesca at least cancelled ones 04:33 wizzyrea hehe 04:33 Francesca sup 04:34 Francesca @wunder wlg 04:34 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on April 13, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 04:36 wizzyrea Francesca: when you get in tomorrow, I have a tool to use to export the themes 04:36 wizzyrea we should try it on plant and food :) 04:36 Francesca oh yes 04:36 Francesca very useful 04:36 Francesca though I'll have to put that theme back up 04:37 Francesca i've been working on the Toi Whakari one on the computer 04:37 wizzyrea ah neat 04:37 wizzyrea anyway we can talk about that tomorrow 04:38 Francesca yup 04:38 Francesca I'll be in about 10.30ish 04:38 Francesca which reminds me I should go and email kathryn to let her know 04:39 wizzyrea I'll tell her 04:39 Francesca thanks 04:39 wizzyrea she says "ok!" 04:39 Francesca cool 04:39 Francesca I'm excited 04:39 Francesca feels like I haven't been to pizza thursday for aggggges 06:37 magnuse hooray for bug 12478 06:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , Elasticsearch support for Koha 06:43 reiveune hello 06:55 drojf morning 07:02 magnuse moin drojf 07:02 drojf hei magnuse 07:27 gaetan_B hello 07:29 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B 09:19 * cait waves 11:25 * magnuse waves to cait 11:41 oleonard Hi #koha 11:45 * Oak waves 11:45 Oak Hello druthb ! 11:45 Oak magnuse 11:45 Oak Guten tag cait. 11:48 cait Oak.:) 11:48 Oak :) 11:49 druthb Hi, Oak! 11:49 druthb Hiya, cait! :) 12:10 magnuse oleonard! Oak! cait! druthb! 12:14 druthb magnuse! 12:14 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. 12:14 oleonard I'm awake! I'm awake! 12:14 * oleonard was just resting his eyes 12:14 druthb oleonard! 12:14 wahanui somebody said oleonard was still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 12:15 * oleonard ...and his head, on the desk. 12:16 druthb keep a pillow in your office. Desks are too firm. 12:17 oleonard anyone else having trouble fetching from git today? 12:18 * druthb blames nengard. 12:20 oleonard Seems logical. 12:21 druthb She's a very responsible person. Anything bad happens, she's responsible. 12:25 nengard :p 12:25 nengard to both of you 12:36 druthb :P 12:48 oleonard Anyone else have this message filling their logs? "Use of uninitialized value in hash element at /C4/Languages.pm line 351" 12:52 kivilahtio drojf: https://renki.vaarakirjastot.fi/tutorials/screencasts/cataloguingRecordPush.mp4 12:52 kivilahtio WIP on a cataloguing record push feature 12:53 kivilahtio so we catalogue to one central Koha instance, and from there we can easily push records to "live" production Kohas where the record is consumed 12:53 kivilahtio fyi since you were interested in the other features :) 12:53 kivilahtio take care! 13:00 oleonard No oleonard, that error is your fault and no one else is getting it because they don't leave junk lying around where it doesn't belong. 13:01 kivilahtio I like monologues 13:01 kivilahtio especialyl interesting ones 13:07 tcohen morning 13:08 tcohen hi kivilahtio, its been a while! 13:08 kivilahtio good evening! 13:08 wahanui evening is the time of day we all look forward too 13:08 kivilahtio tcohen: indeed it has 13:08 kivilahtio tcohen: my frustration is not waning 13:09 kivilahtio tcohen: We need to implement front-end javscript framework for Koha so we can build better front-end apps 13:09 kivilahtio but then we would have to discuss a lot with the community on what tools to use 13:09 kivilahtio constantly facing issues like caching and exception handling int hte javscript layer 13:09 tcohen sure, help us have a more complete REST api and that would be an easy one 13:10 kivilahtio We already adopted Jasmine BDD to drive javascript testing 13:10 kivilahtio tcohen: I know, thanks for the offer 13:11 kivilahtio jasmine is very easy to get started with 13:17 kivilahtio tcohen: the point is I dont want to touch Koha code without TestObjectFactories, and I dont want to touch the REST API without the swagger2-spec driven permission handling. They all make my life as a programmer much easier. 13:17 kivilahtio I could contribute, but with a lot of dependencies not in Koha yet 13:17 kivilahtio lot of BIG dependencies 13:18 kivilahtio or the Swagger2 test runner 13:18 kivilahtio they all have bugs opened and code lying around (very stale however) 13:18 kivilahtio so no point 13:23 tcohen kivilahtio: bug 15126 13:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15126 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , REST API: Use newer version of Swagger2 13:58 oleonard git fetch is working again for me. Thanks to everyone for helping me get through this dark time. 13:59 druthb :P 14:02 kivilahtio <3 14:22 oleonard "No claims notice defined. Please define one." Why not? And how am I supposed to know how to define the right notice? 14:25 oleonard Bug 4398 14:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4398 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Example notice for 'claims notice' in Serials 14:25 oleonard Vintage. 14:29 oleonard ...but I already have the notice described in that bug. Why is it telling me I don't have a claims notice? 14:30 Joubu Are you sure you have a claimissues notice? 14:31 Joubu (and not the claimacquisition) 14:31 oleonard Is that what I'm supposed to have? Because I can't find any information about what I'm supposed to have 14:32 Joubu you should have the claimacquisition, because it's in inserted on installing 14:32 Joubu but the claimserial is not 14:32 Joubu that's what 4398 is supposed to fix 14:33 Joubu and I guess it's why you get the warning 14:34 oleonard By the way Joubu I'm testing Bug 16154 today. I'm trying to poke lots of things. 14:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16154 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Replace CGI->param with CGI->multi_param in list context 14:34 Joubu great idea :) 14:42 tcohen hi Joubu 14:42 Joubu hi tco 14:42 Joubu hen... 14:42 Joubu hi tcohen! 14:43 tcohen hi Joubu 14:43 Joubu :) 14:43 tcohen hey, how are you doing? 14:43 Joubu fine, &you? 14:43 tcohen i'm fine too 14:43 tcohen trying to help with the things you mentioned in your email 14:44 oleonard No column 'last_returned_by' in deleteitems... Batch delete fails. 14:46 Joubu oleonard: this column does not exist 14:46 Joubu even in the items table 14:46 eythian https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cf7eHZ1W4AEeZJA.jpg 14:46 oleonard Then perhaps I have something left over after testing a patch 14:46 eythian wahanui: programming is <reply>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cf7eHZ1W4AEeZJA.jpg 14:46 wahanui OK, eythian. 15:01 oleonard "performed an eager cursor slurp underneath" You don't say? 15:02 Joubu tcohen: bug 16229 is freshly signed off :) 15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16229 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Koha::Cache should be on the safe side 15:03 tcohen Joubu: i'm not convinced about the 'only clear cache when needed' urgency 15:04 tcohen it is a tricky thing, and I think it can be delayed until we figure it doesn't cost more calculating it, than fetching the data again 15:04 tcohen and as tricky as it is, it ca go wrong, so no rush for me 15:04 Joubu tcohen: the priority is 16229 then 16221 15:05 Joubu tcohen: then see 16140#c16 15:05 * tcohen agrees 15:05 tcohen lets see 15:06 Joubu It has been proven that the calculation cost more than what it brings 15:06 Joubu tcohen: then it's bug 16166 15:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16166 major, P2, ---, abl, Needs Signoff , Improve L1 cache performance and safety 15:20 reiveune bye 16:26 cait gah. 16:26 cait those cronjobs for self reg are not good 16:26 cait one deletes a patron without checking for issues fines whatever... and the other deletes borrower_modifications without checking if it's a self reg or a change reqzest? 16:33 oleonard :( 16:34 cait not activating those for now... have to think. 16:34 cait *sighs* 16:34 cait bye #koha 17:47 drojf magnuse: around? 17:55 oleonard Bye #koha 18:11 tcohen hi cait 18:12 tcohen ok, I'll take on bug 16229 18:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16229 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Koha::Cache should be on the safe side 18:34 drojf bug 16245 18:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16245 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Enhancements to RIS fails on change TY 18:34 drojf hm nope 18:34 drojf bug 16254 18:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16254 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha/Catmandu dependency clash 18:37 drojf damn norwegian library card :P 18:53 cait hi all 18:53 cait meeting in 7 minutes :) 18:57 * cait waves and jumps up and down 18:57 cait so wuiet 18:57 cait quiet 19:00 cait ok 19:00 cait quick survey: someone here for the meeting? 19:00 kidclamp i am here 19:00 cait iwill give it a few more minutes 19:00 cait aah 19:00 cait ok, but 2 is not a crowd yet :) 19:01 kidclamp hehe true and in another meeting as well 19:01 cait ping bag 19:01 cait ping drojf 19:01 cait ping everyone 19:01 drojf i am somewhat here 19:02 drojf deep in the cpan, fishing for dependencies 19:02 cait sounds... interesting 19:02 cait i think we should at least be...5 maybe? 19:02 cait i will wait a bit longer, maybe 10 past? 19:03 * barton is in the same meeting as kidclamp, but can multi-task. 19:08 cait last call for the meeting - participants speak up :) 19:08 drojf looks not very meetish 19:08 barton here, cait! 19:09 cait hm 19:09 cait not sure it makes much sense with the four of us 19:09 cait shoudl we reschedule to a different time, next week maybe? 19:09 tcohen hi cait 19:09 bag here 19:10 cait ah 19:10 cait ok 19:10 cait that looks a bit better now 19:10 cait i think we are about 5-6 people for the meeting now 19:10 cait shall we start? 19:11 cait lively crowd ;) 19:11 bag sure 19:11 bag :) 19:11 bag grabbing a coffee really quickly 19:11 cait #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 13 April 2016 19:11 huginn Meeting started Wed Apr 13 19:11:38 2016 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:11 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:11 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_13_april_2016' 19:11 cait #Introductions 19:11 cait Please introduce yourself using #info 19:11 cait #topic Introductions 19:11 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 19:12 cait like wahanuijust did 19:12 drojf #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany 19:12 cait today's agenda can be found at https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_13_April_2016 19:12 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_13_April_2016 19:12 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 19:12 bag #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater 19:12 barton #info Barton Chittenden, Bywater 19:13 cait tcohen: ? 19:13 cait kidclamp: ? 19:14 cait less than 5 again? 19:15 kidclamp #info Nick CLemens, ByWater Solutiojns 19:15 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 19:15 cait ok, moving on 19:15 cait #topic Review coding guidelines 19:16 cait khall had proposed to do a draft for a new goding guidelines page - but I think it will take him a bit longer :) 19:16 cait so we can move on to the second suggestion from oleonard: 19:17 cait #info [oleonard] Proposal: Add a coding guideline discouraging the use of the "onclick" attribute in favor of defining click handlers in separate JavaScript blocks or files. 19:17 cait oleonard has apologized from today's meeting 19:17 cait is this something people generally agree on or are there questions? 19:18 * barton generally agrees. 19:18 kidclamp is there a reason for the preference? 19:18 cait i think there is one... but i don't know it 19:18 kidclamp well, it seems reasonable and I trust oleonard to have agood reason 19:18 cait similar here 19:18 cait question is, can we vote? 19:19 barton I'm willing to vote. 19:20 kidclamp me too 19:20 barton +1 19:20 cait #vote Should we add oleonards proposed guideline to the coding guidelines? (yes,no) 19:20 cait sec 19:20 barton yes 19:20 cait #startvote Should we add oleonards proposed guideline to the coding guidelines? (yes,no) 19:20 huginn Begin voting on: Should we add oleonards proposed guideline to the coding guidelines? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 19:20 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 19:20 cait sorry, i always mess that up 19:21 cait #vote yes 19:21 barton yes 19:21 barton #vote yes 19:21 kidclamp #vote yes 19:22 drojf not really qualified to vote on this, but if oleonard wants it its probably right ;) 19:22 drojf #vote yes 19:22 kidclamp I think that is what we all agree, let's hope he does not go mad with power 19:22 cait :) 19:22 cait #endvote 19:22 huginn Voted on "Should we add oleonards proposed guideline to the coding guidelines?" Results are 19:22 huginn yes (4): kidclamp, cait, barton, drojf 19:23 cait #agreed Proposed guideline will be added. 19:23 cait #action oleonard to add his proposed coding guideline, maybe with an example, to the coding guidelines page 19:23 cait #topic Any bugs that are in discussion 19:24 cait does someone have a bug on mind he/she wants to bring up here? 19:25 cait if there is none, i'll jump to the next topic 19:25 cait #topic General development discussion 19:25 drojf nobody tested bug 15303 so far, so i wonder if i should invest the time to make the changed i intended or it's not going in the next release aqnyway 19:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Letsencrypt option for Debian package installations 19:25 cait i think it might be something for testing at the hackfest maybe 19:26 drojf that is a little late for 16.05 19:26 cait i am not good about sysadmin - but i think there would be other people interested to get walked through it 19:26 cait true 19:26 cait i'd like very much to see it - but don't feel comfortable about testing myself 19:27 kidclamp does it renew the certificates too? 19:28 drojf that needs a cron job. i can add that 19:29 kidclamp I think that would make it even more appealing, but with cait, not my wheelhouse 19:30 cait tcohen maybe? 19:30 drojf i wanted to have some things in koha-letsencrypt and have an option to LE-ify existing instances. i would throw that in until end of the week, but as a lot of people so far said they want to have it and nobody tested the parts so far, i have more urgent things to do 19:31 cait maybe send a quick mail to the mailing list? 19:32 cait saying you need someone to test in order to make thi smoving at this point? 19:32 drojf hm. maybe 19:34 cait about the other 4 topics 19:34 cait i don't want to discuss all of them in this small group i think 19:34 cait is there somehting someone is specifically interested in ? 19:35 drojf in general, let's use more catmandu :) 19:35 drojf when is feature freeze? 19:36 cait 28th 19:36 cait lots of good things in the queue 19:36 kidclamp 15930 would be nice to get in, and backport 19:36 cait and Joubu sent a good summary email 19:36 cait bug 15930 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15930 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , DataTables patron search defaulting to 'starts_with' and not getting correct parameters to parse multiple word searches 19:36 cait hm agreed, looks like a bug fix 19:36 drojf ok then i'm trying to get my own tester :P 19:36 cait so should be not a problem for backporting hopefully 19:37 cait when you find out where to buy them tlel me 19:37 cait i need more qa people :) 19:37 drojf i hope tcohen will qa it when i get a signoff person 19:38 cait the other topics are all worthwhile, but probably for another time 19:38 cait can we move to updates from QA? 19:38 barton good by me. 19:38 cait #info bug 15930 for 16.05 and backport 19:38 cait #info feature freeze is on April 28 19:39 cait #info bug 15303 needs a tester to help it moving forward 19:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Letsencrypt option for Debian package installations 19:39 cait just feeding the minutes 19:39 cait #topic Updates from the QA team 19:39 cait as always... fix all the bugs please, write good test plans and working code :) 19:39 cait but aside from that i have a proposal 19:39 drojf that is not an update :P 19:39 cait something i'd like to try 19:39 cait #info [kfischer] proposal to have an 'exception rule' for SIP2 and LDAP related patches being able to pass QA with 2 sign offs. 19:40 cait we have tried several things.. but ldap and sip2 patches are getting stuck 19:40 cait there are not a lot of testers for those and they are hard to test 19:40 cait i'd like to try if it works with 2 sign-offs 19:40 cait and a qa 'nod' 19:41 cait what do people think? 19:41 cait you can say if you hate the idea - but the quiet is scary 19:42 drojf i wonder what is actually required to test those 19:42 barton cait: I'm ambivalent -- on one hand I think that moving patches through expiditiously is a good thing, but we also seem to have a lot of weird bugs show up in new releases, especially wrt/ sip. 19:42 eythian you could also suggest a hackfest project to make a SIP/LDAP test system :) (not volunteering ;) 19:42 cait i am torn myself 19:42 cait but a lot of bug fixes got stuck as well 19:43 drojf is ashimema coming to greece? 19:43 kidclamp I feel like it sounds reasonable, if the qa 'nod' includes a review fo the code 19:43 cait no - school holidays in UK 19:43 cait i'd say so 19:43 drojf who else has any idea of this stuff? 19:43 kidclamp faster passing through might make an extra bug, but allows for the fix to come in 19:43 barton did we ever get any unit tests for sip? I know that someone was working on it at some point... 19:44 cait khall - but he also writes a lot of the stuff 19:44 cait ColinC 19:44 kidclamp maybe get their views? 19:44 cait ColinC can technically pass QA - we approved of that a while ago as a first measure 19:44 cait to have an extra SIP person 19:45 cait at the moment the queue is not super bad 19:45 cait let me check 19:45 beatsforthemind Is there a reason why the Zebra SRU results don’t include the biblio numbers of the recrds? 19:45 beatsforthemind records* 19:45 cait hm for ldap i see imeediately on the dashboard 19:45 cait bug 14144 19:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14144 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Silence warnings t/db_dependent/Auth_with_ldap.t 19:45 cait bug 6979 19:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6979 major, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , LDAP authentication fails during password comparison 19:45 drojf beatsforthemind: we are in a meeting 19:45 cait bug 15006 sip 19:45 beatsforthemind sorry :/ 19:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15006 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Signed Off , Need to distinguish client timeout from login timeout 19:46 cait beatsforthemind: pretty sure they do - checked 999$c? 19:46 drojf nothing to be sorry about, but you will probably get no answers atm 19:46 barton beatsforthemind: if you're looking at results in the opac, my guess is that numbers will be supressed if there's any hidden items. 19:47 cait probably more in needs sign off 19:47 cait barton: ? 19:47 cait SRU :) 19:47 barton ah. sorry. nvm. 19:48 * barton had his light out, got eaten by an SRU. 19:48 barton back to dev meeting. 19:48 cait heh 19:49 cait ok, we don't have to vote on this if people are not sure about 19:49 barton yeah, I'd want more input from the community. 19:49 cait i might encourage a second sign off in some cases to give the qa people a bit more 19:49 beatsforthemind 999$c is it. thanks cait! 19:49 cait yq 19:49 cait yw 19:49 cait ok, time for setting a date/time next meeting? 19:50 cait #topic Set time of next meeting 19:50 cait i have a proposal here too - i think this time doesn't work well 19:50 cait if we moved it by 2 hours, it won't work for europe well (11pm) but woudl be better for australia/nz i guess 19:50 cait is there something we could work out? 19:51 cait to keep with the rotation i'd suggest 15 utc otherwise for the next meeting 19:51 cait should we have another before feature freeze or is later fine too? 19:52 barton it seems like the 15 utc meetings are better attended. 19:52 drojf before would probably make sense? 19:52 bag ok back 19:52 bag ES is signed off!!! 19:52 barton bag: w00t! 19:53 cait bag: that was a real quick coffee? ;) 19:53 cait hm 19:53 cait that leves next week 19:53 cait or something like 26th 19:53 barton bag: what's the bug number on that? 19:53 kidclamp he had to pick, roast, grind and brew, pretty fast for all of that 19:54 kidclamp bug 12478 19:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , Elasticsearch support for Koha 19:55 kidclamp next week could be good cait as low attendance today 19:55 cait ok 19:56 cait wednesday, 20th - 15 utc? 19:56 kidclamp +1 19:56 barton +1 19:56 cait #agreed Next meeting will be on April 20, 15 UTC 19:56 cait #endmeeting 19:56 huginn Meeting ended Wed Apr 13 19:56:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 19:56 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/development_irc_meeting_13_april_2016.2016-04-13-19.11.html 19:56 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/development_irc_meeting_13_april_2016.2016-04-13-19.11.txt 19:56 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/development_irc_meeting_13_april_2016.2016-04-13-19.11.log.html 19:57 cait thx all 19:57 kidclamp cait++ 19:58 kidclamp karma cait 19:58 wahanui cait has karma of 791 19:58 cait wow, when did that happen 19:58 kidclamp you can break 1000 by the end of the year 19:59 cait @karma 19:59 huginn cait: Highest karma: "cait" (343), "Joubu" (316), and "tcohen" (242). Lowest karma: "failed" (-26), "<-" (-26), and "ie" (-26). You (cait) are ranked 1 out of 572. 19:59 drojf ie-- 19:59 cait oh interesting, different count there 19:59 cait ie-- 19:59 drojf karma drojf 19:59 wahanui drojf has karma of 219 19:59 cait drojf++ 19:59 drojf @karma 19:59 huginn drojf: Highest karma: "cait" (343), "Joubu" (316), and "tcohen" (242). Lowest karma: "ie" (-28), "failed" (-26), and "<-" (-26). You (drojf) are ranked 12 out of 572. 19:59 drojf ah it does not tell me 20:00 kidclamp @karma 20:00 huginn kidclamp: Highest karma: "cait" (343), "Joubu" (316), and "tcohen" (242). Lowest karma: "ie" (-28), "failed" (-26), and "<-" (-26). You (kidclamp) are ranked 47 out of 572. 20:00 kidclamp top 50! 20:01 cait on the way up :) 20:01 cait kidclamp++ 20:01 kidclamp heh thanks 20:26 rangi morning 20:28 magnuse night 20:29 pianohacker oh, heh, wahanui and huginn are both tracking karma 20:29 pianohacker karma pianohacker 20:29 wahanui pianohacker has karma of 79 20:29 pianohacker @karma pianohacker 20:29 huginn pianohacker: Karma for "pianohacker" has been increased 48 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 47. 20:29 pianohacker @karma 20:29 huginn pianohacker: Highest karma: "cait" (343), "Joubu" (316), and "tcohen" (242). Lowest karma: "ie" (-28), "failed" (-26), and "<-" (-26). You (pianohacker) are ranked 18 out of 572. 20:52 rangi drojf: are you about? 20:52 drojf yep 20:53 rangi im testing your letsencrypt patches 20:53 drojf awesome! 20:53 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, drojf 20:53 rangi when you built a package yesterday, did you run into a missing dependency (to do with EDI) for the Readonly module? 20:54 drojf hmmm no. for installation or during build? i turned of tests 20:54 drojf off 20:55 rangi yeah would have been during tests 20:56 rangi right ill see if i can fix that, yak shaving 20:56 drojf there was one test that always failed so i had to turn it off. i can try now 20:56 drojf (that failing one was a while back, i just kept it like that) 20:56 eythian http://imgur.com/r5CHdTH <-- drojf, have you played this yet? 20:57 drojf no ;) 20:57 eythian you should 21:00 drojf rangi: running build now, can tell you in a few minutes 21:04 drojf btw i tried latest catmandu and koha. it's a pain in the ass but i got all deps built now apart from the ES stuff. 21:05 drojf which will probably take the same time again :D 21:05 rangi sweet 21:06 rangi im just fixing the tests now 21:06 rangi while packages build 21:06 drojf do you know what we are missing right now from catmandu, for ES in koha with the version in jessie? 21:07 drojf i found only one… i think catmandu::store::elasticsearch? 21:07 rangi http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/otherthings/ 21:07 rangi yeah 21:07 rangi you need those other .deb in there 21:07 rangi to install that one 21:09 drojf yes, i was wondering because johann said it might be a lot 21:10 rangi i think thats it 21:10 drojf i cna send him a list of missing stuff for catmandu 1.02 though, that is a lot :P 21:10 rangi heh yeah 21:10 rangi interesting 21:10 wahanui hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 21:10 rangi https://wiki.debian.org/Sprints/2016/DebianPerlSprint 21:10 rangi im flying through zurich, but the day after that finishes 21:11 cait and after i have left heh 21:11 cait i am flying form zürich 21:11 cait but the day before :) 21:11 drojf timing is everything 21:11 rangi that would have been good to go to 21:11 wahanui i already had it that way, drojf. 21:12 drojf yeah given the way you got to travel anyway that would have made sense 21:16 rangi damnit another one 21:16 rangi Can't locate Net/SFTP/Foreign.pm 21:16 rangi did someone miss updating the dependencies I wonder? 21:17 drojf i had to restart the build because apparently i tried two options to disable tests and only deleted the one that does not do it. lol 21:17 bag I think we needed a new package rolled there (iirc) I was looking at that 21:17 bag I forget at the moment - being pulled in tax direction (hence slow pushing ;) ) 21:17 drojf alright now we got broken tests 21:18 drojf yeah i start with Net/SFTP/Foreign.pm. what did you have before? 21:21 drojf oh but that also means whatever was the test that always failed is fixed. nice 21:21 drojf so i leave them enabled now 21:21 rangi Readonly was missing before 21:22 drojf i did not have that 21:23 beatsforthemind Are there size or other limits that are put on the ‘Upload local cover image’ files by Koha outside of the web server? 21:23 cait hm 21:23 cait have you cheked the preferences? 21:24 beatsforthemind Looks like they get base64 encoded (or something similar) and stored right in the database. 21:25 beatsforthemind Not as a link to a file. 21:25 cait yeah that's corect for the local covers 21:26 cait i think there is no file limit afaik 21:26 rangi well ive fixed the tests for elasticsearch, ill try letsencrypt again now 21:27 drojf hmmm. installing libnet-sftp-foreign-perl does not fix the test for me. it stil says Can't locate Net/SFTP/Foreign.pm 21:28 drojf rangi++ 21:28 drojf i'll try the ES tests meanwhile 21:33 drojf ah tricky. i have no ES set up on my dev VM 21:34 rangi ahh yeah that does make it tricky 21:35 drojf i'll do that now, unless you tell me i can run the test on a package installation ;) 21:35 rangi i don't think so 21:35 kidclamp i can test and SO the ES tests 21:36 kidclamp assuming nothig beyond they fail before and pass after 21:36 rangi thats it 21:37 drojf kidclamp: if you'd do that that would be cool, then i'll skip setting that up now 21:38 kidclamp done 21:38 rangi packages built with tests turned off 21:38 drojf kidclamp++ 21:40 drojf somebody should clean my VMs. it's getting confusing 21:42 rangi right, testing now 21:43 cait drojf: hand overyour laptop to me... i will take care of it 21:44 rangi it works! 21:44 wahanui But now the Universe has disappeared 21:45 rangi not again 21:45 drojf damn. lol 21:46 cait oleonard++ # lots of testing 21:46 drojf rangi: i found https://launchpad.net/~chris-bigballofwax/+archive/ubuntu/catmandu how do you set that up? is there some magic or do you just upload your packages somehow? i was thinking about where to throw the catmandu 1.x deps that is less work for others than wgetting it (but not a lot of work for me either) 21:47 eythian https://github.com/sludin/Protocol-ACME <-- drojf DROJF 21:47 rangi yeah that is way out of date 21:48 rangi https://code.launchpad.net/~chris-bigballofwax/catmandu/trunk <-- this keeps up to date tho 21:48 rangi basically once you have stuff in launchpad, you can create packaging recipes 21:48 rangi and then it will automatigically build them 21:49 rangi but I got distracted by other stuff 21:49 drojf hm yep that sounds like it would distract me from other stuff :D 21:51 eythian you could have provisioning from within koha :) 21:53 drojf "NOTE: This code at this point is functional but should be considered 'alpha' quality." 21:53 drojf protocol-acme that is 21:53 eythian what are you, chicken? :) 21:53 drojf :D 22:07 pastebot "drojf" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "hmmmmmmmm…" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/413 22:09 eythian drojf: is =~ valid in bash these days? 22:09 pianohacker drojf: /bin/sh vs /bin/bash ? 22:09 eythian oh, it does 22:09 eythian *is 22:10 eythian try quoting it 22:10 eythian might stop the ( ) upsetting things 22:10 eythian or maybe escape them 22:11 drojf eythian: you mean quote the part after =~ ? 22:11 eythian yeah 22:11 eythian or prefix the ( ) with \ 22:27 cait pianohacker: hm 16237 - marked signed of... but is not? 22:27 drojf eythian: i think that helps, it complains somewhere else now. i'll fix all of those and see if it works, thanks! 22:28 pianohacker cait: I have no idea. Poke oleonard 22:28 cait hm yeah 22:28 cait he left me a note :) 22:28 cait will add his line and he can still veto the patch 22:29 drojf (i tried quoting it) 22:29 bag ah you do check your notes cait 22:29 cait pianohacker: much better 22:29 bag :D 22:29 cait i like emails a bit better 22:30 cait i don't have logs at work and when i see them there sometimes forget about them 22:30 bag @later tell bag - send cait emails not @laters 22:30 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 22:30 cait EDI looks impressive 22:30 cait i have no idea what all the fields do :) 22:30 cait but it's no longer exploding :) 22:31 bag yeah it does totally feel like it’s overkill 22:31 bag I wish everyone used the standard - then it wouldn’t be so crazy 22:31 cait does it come with a detailed manual? 22:31 cait i wonder if some fields should be marked as required on that form 22:32 bag I think nengard will be on that 22:56 cait hm new low for nso - 130 22:56 cait qa is up of course 22:57 cait 41 22:57 bag awesome sauce :) 22:58 * cait wishes we could clone Joubu 22:58 bag it’s better to make PQA the higher than NSO 22:58 bag sorry QA not PQA ;) 22:58 bag but PQA bring the highest is the bestest 22:58 bag s/bring/being 22:58 bag sorry for the typing problems today 22:58 bag yeesh 22:59 cait almost 1 pm... 22:59 cait i missed the point of turning into a pumpkin 23:03 cait night all 23:03 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back. 23:21 pianohacker whoah. 23:21 rangi ? 23:21 pianohacker I'm getting a really odd error from the ES rebuild script 23:22 pianohacker can't locate method _columns via package "<?xml ..." 23:23 pianohacker drojf/eythian: ^? 23:23 wahanui ^ is what I think too 23:23 wizzyrea <? 23:23 wahanui well, < is still here 23:23 wizzyrea that kinda looks like it might be a typo 23:53 pianohacker swaaaaaaaank this indexing is so fast! 23:54 pianohacker (once I tell it not to index authorities) 23:54 pianohacker (because that is BROKEN) 23:55 rangi ah yeah, fixing the authorities on my list, but yeah it's super fast 23:56 rangi fast to search too 23:56 rangi and once we get it in, because it is returning json 23:56 rangi easy enough to write a js based search too 23:57 pianohacker rangi: any docs on debugging "no results found"? 23:57 rangi hmm? 23:57 pianohacker ES is running, SearchEngine is set, no results for simple keyword searches in the intranet 23:57 rangi you can paste the query into the ES server manually 23:58 rangi they are pretty human readable, might help you spot what it's doing wrong, maybe the wrong index 23:59 rangi for the last bit, ive mostly been focused on making sure that it doesn't break zebra, because I figure that is the blocker, so haven't been working much on the ES side at all 23:59 pianohacker hmm, indexmissingexception