Time  Nick        Message
23:59 rangi       otheriwse they are usually active on here in 8 hours or so time (their day time)
23:59 rangi       cool
23:59 DooRooK     thank you for your time, i'll surf a bit on this website and try to contact them if I can't manage to fix the problem.
23:58 DooRooK     Ok
23:58 rangi       I suspect there is something mixed up with your frameworks, but they might know how to solve it
23:57 rangi       they will be a lot more familar with UNIMARC than me also
23:57 rangi       there is a list for french speakers
23:57 rangi       http://koha-fr.org/content/support-communautaire
23:57 DooRooK     This is where the problem is, either if I try to save or change the marc framework, i've got the message quoted up there
23:56 rangi       right, I think what might work best for you
23:56 DooRooK     No
23:56 rangi       does that work?
23:55 rangi       if you go to cataloguing, and try to add a record (without importing it) just fill in the fields it tells you to when you try to save it
23:55 DooRooK     tried to get the maximum informations though
23:55 DooRooK     I think so, i'm not a librarian myself, i'm doing that for a little library within a student assosiation
23:54 rangi       nope thats the latest version
23:54 rangi       the records from BNF are in unimarc format? not marc21 eh?
23:54 DooRooK     Would you advice me to upgrade the version ?
23:54 rangi       right, so thats not a known problem with that version
23:53 DooRooK     yup
23:53 rangi       is it 3.22.04 ?
23:53 rangi       thats the rest ?
23:53 DooRooK     3.22
23:53 rangi       in the staff client
23:52 rangi       look at the about page
23:52 DooRooK     what's the command for knowing the version ?
23:52 DooRooK     Yes I did
23:52 rangi       and did you choose UNIMARC when you did the install?
23:51 rangi       what version of koha?
23:51 DooRooK     I'm trying to import them with the BNF ZN3950 which is a french norm
23:51 DooRooK     and it has been like that since the very start
23:51 DooRooK     hmmm, it's a fresh install
23:51 rangi       DooRooK: it sounds like you might have messed up your framework, not sure of the easiest way to fix that though
23:48 aleisha     have attached a new patch for you oleonard
23:48 aleisha     I think it makes sense to have it there because it summarises what's in that column. However I've been calling the column " " for when I put the actions into drop down menus because each menu says Actions already
23:48 DooRooK     (I apologise for my English skills ;) )
23:47 DooRooK     Is anyone willing to help me make my configuration work ?
23:47 DooRooK     I have a problem that I can't solve since a few days. I'm trying to install my first KOHA on a Debian and everything was working fine until I finally got the OPAC and Staff client working. There I tried to import some notices, but when I went to this section of the Staff client,  this error code has kept coming whenever I tried to save book information or change the Marc Framework :        "Tag "0" is not a valid tag. at /usr/s
23:46 oleonard    I'm sure I've gone back and forth in practice.
23:45 oleonard    Do you think it's conveying information which is important to the user?
23:45 oleonard    Putting aside the issue of which example is more frequent, do you think it's important to label that column with an "action" header?
23:44 aleisha     ohh clever
23:43 oleonard    ("Gloucester Memorial Free Public Library Incorporated" isn't a real library except in my test system!)
23:43 aleisha     i'll try adding the whitespace class
23:43 aleisha     haha i see!
23:43 oleonard    I have a library defined with a very long name in order to catch things like this :)
23:42 oleonard    I think that looks awkward. I'm thinking the two choices are to either separate the buttons into separate cells or add a class which has whitespace: nowrap
23:42 aleisha     that didn't happen on my screen
23:42 aleisha     oh that's weird
23:41 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16048 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Needs Signoff , Making notices actions buttons
23:41 aleisha     for the dropdown menus or the buttons themselves?
23:41 oleonard    In testing Bug 16048, the edit and delete buttons wrap, ending up stacked one on top of the other
23:41 DooRooK     Hello everyone
23:41 aleisha     yes?
23:41 oleonard    I wanted to ask your opinion about the action buttons
23:41 aleisha     no worries!
23:40 oleonard    Hi there. Thanks for all your patches
23:40 aleisha     yes hello
23:40 oleonard    aleisha around?
21:50 wizzyrea    see you!
21:21 francesca   See you soon!
21:21 francesca   I'm on my way in
21:21 wizzyrea    hi francesca
21:17 francesca   Morning
18:27 gaetan_B    bye
17:06 bag         man Mt Hood has gotten 370+ inches of snow this year - I haven’t been out skiing once
17:02 reiveune    bye
16:44 cait        oleonard: lol
16:44 pianohacker Joubu: will do
16:43 Joubu       pianohacker: I have to go, feel free to let your comments on the different reports :)
16:43 pianohacker looking at 16044
16:42 Joubu       erk ok. Certainly better to move it on its own report
16:42 pianohacker and it should only load it once due to the unless(...)
16:42 pianohacker Joubu: not a speed improvement there... for certain plack setups, if you initialize the Koha::Cache on module load, it doesn't see MEMCACHED_SERVERS and uses Cache::Memory instead
16:41 Joubu       There is one more call per call to ->pref
16:41 Joubu       pianohacker: I don't understand why it will be faster :)
16:41 pianohacker I have been thinking that we need some kind of L1 for Koha::Cache in general, the Storable overhead on retrieving the MARC frameworks is awful for search speeds, especially with XSLT enabled
16:40 pianohacker hmm, okay.
16:40 pastebot    "pianohacker" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu: this is the change, not too complicated" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/331
16:40 Joubu       Jacek did some measure on 11998 and the access to memcache is not negligible. Using a L1 (hashref) would be the solution
16:38 pianohacker Joubu: woah woah woah, L1 and L2 caches?
16:38 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Define a L2 cache for all objects set in cache
16:38 Joubu       pianohacker: I really (really) need feedback on last patches of 11998 and bug 16044
16:36 Joubu       (or open a new one, it may be easier to include it than wait for 11998)
16:36 Joubu       pianohacker: but please, attach your patch to the bug report if it helps and goes in the same direction
16:35 Joubu       pianohacker: have you seen the last patches?
16:35 Joubu       11998 is not ready yet actually, I have worked on it today
16:35 oleonard    The people in the betting pool for "most signoffs" have bribed me to submit many small patches, and I'm not going to kill that golden goose.
16:35 pianohacker (the change is necessary to make memcached actually be used under some circumstances, Plack is weird)
16:34 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Syspref caching issues
16:34 pianohacker Joubu: bug 11998, after a slight change to initialize the Koha::Cache earlier, has been a major performance boon for one of our Plack-using sites. You cool with me QA'ing/adding that followup?
16:32 pianohacker ah, so not straightforward find-replace, but they map
16:31 Joubu       pianohacker: yes : https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=48946
16:30 Joubu       pianohacker: o/
16:30 pianohacker do the glyphicons names map that well to the fontawesome ones?
16:29 pianohacker and oleonard
16:29 pianohacker hi Joubu :)
16:19 bag         :)
16:14 oleonard    Okay thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
16:12 Joubu       if it works for 1, it will work for all of them
16:12 Joubu       it makes sense to say: we change "icon-foo" with "fa fa-foo" everywhere
16:12 Joubu       oleonard: I wouldn't mind if you fix everything in one go, especially if it's just a string replacement
16:10 oleonard    Joubu: I'm chasing down every image in the staff client which isn't in use anymore or which can be replaced with a Font Awesome icon.
16:09 Joubu       oleonard: Are you a bug report maniac? :D
16:03 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
16:03 Joubu       @later tell tcohen follow-up on bug 16044
16:03 EricGAC     I am trying to set up automatic backups and have set it to a absolute path to a google drive sync location. However it has yet to put anything in the directory. It is continuing to place all the backups in the /var/spool/koha directory
15:50 cait        maybe
15:49 bag         maybe I need coffee so I make THE sense
15:49 cait        hi bag
15:49 bag         oh well - Good morning cait
15:49 bag         yeah
15:48 cait        I was thinking of our library witht he blind staff member
15:48 bag         js not a big problem for you :)
15:47 cait        hm?
15:47 bag         hehe
15:47 bag         oh oh cait I am going to copy that down and repeat it back to you
15:34 cait        i think js is not such a big problem anymore in terms of accessibility
15:26 oleonard    Only somewhat.
15:25 Joubu       Did we ever consider non-JS users in the staff interface?
15:24 oleonard    Joubu: That issue was a design decision from a time when we considered non-JS users.
15:22 Joubu       oleonard: great, thanks!
15:22 oleonard    I've added my signoff Joubu
15:09 oleonard    Yes. Sorry I haven't gotten to it yet.
15:08 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15119 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Hide search header text boxes on render
15:08 Joubu       oleonard: could you have a look at bug 15119 please? This bug drives me crazy
15:01 mtompset    Have a great day, #koha tcohen
15:01 mtompset    And now my long day begins.
14:53 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11592 major, P3, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility
14:53 mtompset    I don't recall if I asked you about ShouldHideMarc for bug 11592.
14:53 tcohen      hi mtompset
14:50 huginn      mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 4 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <tcohen> hi oleonard
14:50 mtompset    @seen tcohen
13:35 oleonard    chris_n around?
13:24 cait        that seems odd
13:23 geek_cl     anyone receive some comments about it?
13:23 geek_cl     after update to plack the koha opac/staff is too slow
13:20 cait        oh no.... not the crying smiley again
13:19 geek_cl     :'(:'(:'(
13:17 cait        :P
13:16 jcamins     cait: depends how fast you say it. :P
13:14 cait        so for once german has a shorter way of saying something!
13:13 cait        oh
13:13 oleonard    The English equivalent is "it always works once someone else watches"
13:13 cait        oleonard: not sure if there is not an english equivalent :)
13:02 oleonard    Yet another word the Germans have which we don't, but which we need.
13:01 * geek_cl   continue the music
13:00 cait        in german i'd say "vorführeffekt" - it always works once someone else watches
13:00 * geek_cl   LOL
13:00 geek_cl     is a good news , crying beacuse my stupidness xD
12:59 cait        why crying, that's good news :)
12:59 geek_cl     :'(
12:59 geek_cl     oh gosh, now i can
12:58 cait        what is your username?
12:57 cait        hm but you can login?
12:57 geek_cl     edit
12:57 geek_cl     but i can't editñ
12:57 geek_cl     david create my account on wiki
12:57 geek_cl     Hi cait, i need edit this link, https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers/SouthAmerica ,
12:56 cait        geek_cl: can we help?
12:56 cait        nz?
12:56 cait        ithink wrong time too
12:55 huginn      oleonard: davidnind was last seen in #koha 7 weeks, 2 days, 2 hours, 14 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <davidnind> it's  like looking for a needle in a haystack (not that I've ever tried though)
12:55 oleonard    @seen davidnind
12:52 geek_cl     Hi Koha , David Nind is here?
12:46 tcohen      hi oleonard
12:39 oleonard    Hi #koha
12:33 tcohen      morning
10:22 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:22 Joubu       @later tell drojf Are you working on bug 15264?
10:22 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:22 Joubu       @later tell drojf What is the real status of bug 15263?
08:14 marcelr     hi #koha
08:11 gaetan_B    hello
07:59 reiveune    hello
07:56 alex_a      bonjour
07:19 Joubu       hi
07:13 cait        hi #koha
02:17 wizzyrea    but seriously, log in and click the edit link at the top of the page you want to edit
02:16 wizzyrea    JINX
02:16 wizzyrea    log in and edit it :)
02:16 rangi       if you have an account, then just start editing :)
02:14 geek_cl     Hi guys, to edit the Wiki, which is the procedure? (i already create an account )
01:30 BobB        pretty nice out there
01:30 huginn      BobB: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, New South Wales is 24.0°C (12:00 PM AEDT on March 10, 2016). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
01:30 BobB        @wunder sydney, new south wales
00:43 huginn      mtompset: The operation succeeded.
00:43 mtompset    @later tell tcohen Do you think I should put the ShouldHideMARC into the filter? See bug 11592 review splinter, see code in Biblio.pm, see call in opac-detail.pl