Time Nick Message 23:17 drojf good night #koha 23:16 drojf time for me to go to bed :) see you here later or in rome! 23:15 bag ok time for me to head home 23:15 drojf yeah i am looking forward to the workshop :) 23:15 bag but talljoy gives a good presentation about bibframe :) 23:14 bag I think I am talking a little about ES in the very beginning 23:14 drojf bag: you don't have to talk, just supervise? ;) 23:12 drojf i think i arrive early afternoon on monday and leave around the same on thursday. really looking forward to it. it was on short notice but it fits in very well for me :) 23:12 bag :) 23:11 drojf [off] i would have stayed longer if i would have anticipated the glutenfreefriendliness of the city :D 23:10 bag cool I land monday and fly out saturday 23:10 drojf and you? 23:09 drojf bag: monday to thursday 23:09 bag drojf: how long are you in rome? 23:08 drojf [off] there i planned to go to rome and drink wine all day, and then it turns out they have finest canadian gluten free beer availaibe that you cannot buy anywhere in germany 23:05 rangi getting lunch bbiab 23:05 drojf ok cool 23:05 rangi 2 23:04 drojf anyway we should try and do more things together with librecat people. btw their ES store dev version suppoirts ES 2.0 now, not sure if that is relevant for us?! what version are we targetiing? 23:01 drojf he is organizing a catmandu something something release meeting in april, but i think that is mainly for catmandu core developers 22:58 drojf *i suppose 22:58 drojf that said, i am suppose he would do it again another time if there is interest (and probably some funding for travel costs, depending on the location) 22:57 bag yeah totally understand that drojf 22:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Add Filter for MARC to respect visibility settings 22:57 mtompset tcohen: I don't if you had time to look up from the other stuff you are tinkering with, but bug 15870 is signed off. 22:56 drojf bag, tcohen: You cannot get the catmandu workshop in greece, because johann is busy preparing stuff for ELAG the following week. doing it in greece was the first idea, i would not have interfered with that 22:55 mtompset "single fat LDF server (256 GB RAM)." -- *I'M* Jealous. 22:54 wizzyrea sweet as! 22:18 Francesca i'll be seeing you all tomorrow (feels like forever) 22:18 wizzyrea Hi Francesca :) 22:17 Francesca hello 22:16 tcohen :-P 22:16 tcohen will we release on even years only? 22:12 rangi it is 22:10 tcohen awesome 22:10 tcohen oh 22:09 tcohen rangi: reading 22:08 rangi did you see that tcohen ? 22:08 bag yeah I’m a little jealous of that one - maybe we can get that repeated in greece 22:08 rangi https://librecatproject.wordpress.com/2015/06/03/matching-authors-against-viaf-identities/ 22:08 tcohen i hate you all 22:07 tcohen catmanduuu uworkshooooop 22:04 bag Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/genereal_irc_meeting_9_march_2016.2016-03-09-20.00.html 22:03 tcohen minutes? 22:03 wizzyrea hi tcohen 22:02 tcohen hey 22:01 wizzyrea \o/ 22:00 wizzyrea though* 22:00 wizzyrea I am happy about the new versioning system thoug! 22:00 wizzyrea (not really) 22:00 wizzyrea :) 22:00 wizzyrea phew I was going to have to get cross with you, pianohacker 21:59 pianohacker 16.05: Steinway Edition 21:59 bag yes cait pianohacker wants to name them all after piano’s 21:59 bag love it ;) 21:59 bag pianohacker++ 21:58 pianohacker I've wanted this for years 21:58 pianohacker only kidding 21:58 cait hm bit late 21:57 pianohacker I have a NUMBER of issues with the proposed versioning scheme 21:57 pianohacker oh man, I forgot to jump in at the end of the meeting 21:53 bag Or do we need to wait and see if we have any comments on the grants doc? 21:53 bag can you send out an email BobB_ to suggest next meeting? 21:52 bag BobB_: I will be visint with Romana and Paul next week 21:51 thd You could check the meeting logs for attendance of meetings held at 2 UTC. 21:50 drojf thd: i assume so, but i would be interested in the hard facts (numbers of people actually attending) of those periods 21:49 thd s/would/had/ 21:49 thd drojf: Alternating between three times would lead to the unpopular time having almost no attendance and defeating the purpose of a meeting. 21:47 thd drojf: We had three times for an extended period/ 21:47 huginn drojf: mveron was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 2 hours, 2 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <mveron> Bye #koha :-) 21:47 drojf @seen mveron 21:47 BobB_ bag we have to schedule a FRC meeting 21:47 drojf i suppose nobody has evaluated if the two times now work better than the 3 times before or the 2 times per meeting? not volunteering, but i wonder if we have now more or less participation in the meetings 21:46 bag time for foodz 21:45 cait stupid timezones :) 21:45 BobB_ i am waking up :) 21:45 bag thanks cait! 21:45 BobB_ thank you cait 21:45 BobB_ 8pm - fine for me 21:45 cait sorry, bu ti am falling asleep ;) 21:45 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/genereal_irc_meeting_9_march_2016.2016-03-09-20.00.log.html 21:45 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/genereal_irc_meeting_9_march_2016.2016-03-09-20.00.txt 21:45 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/genereal_irc_meeting_9_march_2016.2016-03-09-20.00.html 21:45 huginn Meeting ended Wed Mar 9 21:45:03 2016 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 21:45 cait #endmeeting 21:45 cait #agreed Next meeting will be on 6 April, 10 UTC 21:44 bag I know I know ;) 21:44 rangi yep thast fine 21:44 cait it's the normal rotation 21:44 bag that’s a difficult time to stay awake for 0200 for me 21:44 bag +1 21:44 drojf works for me 21:43 cait 10 UTC? 21:43 cait wednesday, April 6th ? 21:42 cait #topic Set date and time for next meeting 21:42 bag +1 21:42 cait and get to set a date for the next meeting? 21:41 cait can we save the brainstorming for gbsd? :) 21:41 cait moving on 21:41 cait #info $300 dollars in the fund, 2 donations so far in 2016 21:41 BobB_ and that is without any effort, so its good 21:41 cait nice start 21:40 bag we are a little over $300 dollars in the fund and we’ve had 2 donations so far in 2016 21:40 bag ah an update on the money in the fund… one sec 21:40 drojf thanks 21:40 drojf yes 21:40 BobB_ until there is money in the fund, there are no grants to make, so these rules are not urgent 21:40 cait we could have the discussion on the mailing list 21:39 cait BobB: would you be ok with a vote in may? or is there a need to have the vote in April? 21:39 cait drojf: does this answr your question? 21:37 BobB_ gmcharlt well said 21:37 gmcharlt and the grants subcommittee is reserving the right to discuss any such matters in closed session -- but to say in advance that it woudl be doing so 21:37 BobB_ yes, to give the ocmmittee the option of private discussion, which should be made known rather than done secretly, if you follow me 21:37 gmcharlt as in, anything that involves money raises the spectre of sensitive issues that should not be promulgated 21:36 drojf BobB: not saying that can't be happening, just wondering what it is about, because it is not mentioned elsewhere 21:36 gmcharlt as I recall, it's a catch-all 21:36 BobB_ droif I am trying to remember 21:35 mtompset ^minutes^agenda^ 21:35 mtompset Ah, right in the minutes, sorry. 21:35 drojf 2b Meetings of the Committee will be scheduled with at least 2 weeks of prior notice. A public agenda will be published prior to the meeting that will list all of the proposals under consideration. The agenda will specify which portions of the meeting will be open and which will be held in closed session. 21:34 BobB_ scroll even 21:34 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising 21:34 BobB_ scrool down 21:34 BobB_ https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising 21:34 mtompset url? 21:33 BobB_ thx cait 21:33 drojf there is mentioning of a closed session. i wonder what things will be within such sessions 21:33 cait #info draft rules for the Grants committee were put on the wiki and are there to be read and commented on 21:33 drojf yes 21:33 BobB_ questions? 21:33 BobB_ and voted on next month 21:33 BobB_ and are there to be read and commented on 21:32 BobB_ So the draft rules for the Grants committee were put on the wiki last night 21:32 cait drojf: sorry 21:32 drojf ^^ 21:32 BobB_ - and making rules for the Grants committee, in case we get some money! 21:32 drojf so the voting thing was on the list 21:32 drojf ah no we skipped two, which both were mine 21:31 BobB_ - about to start talking about how to raise to money; 21:31 BobB_ ok Fundraising committee is doing two things: 21:31 thd The vote counting issue is moot so far for the next KohaCon if we enforce some rule for venue diversity. 21:31 bag you start BobB_ 21:31 BobB_ bag? or me? 21:31 mtompset drojf: skipped mailing list announcement rules. 21:30 cait #topic International Koha Fund 21:30 drojf what is the next topic 21:30 rangi yes 21:30 cait can we skip the next topic? 21:30 mtompset No one does, but it is rather long. 21:30 BobB_ not blamin' of course, just sayin' :) 21:30 drojf i blame l*bl*me 21:30 cait #info Vote on a for continent rotation for KohaCons next meeting 21:29 rangi :) 21:29 rangi i dont think we can blame cait for that 21:29 cait exactly 21:29 BobB_ cait we are an hour and a half into the meeting and only half way through the agenda 21:29 cait so i will info it 21:29 drojf hm yeah the voring rules for kohacon… i think its not on the agenda this time and i forgot what was last zime, but we need to think about that 21:29 cait maybe we need to vote on this next time 21:28 drojf ok. good to know, i was not aware of that. 21:28 thd rangi: As my call for proposals message has put it recently, we have never had to use such a rule in actual practise. 21:28 BobB_ none of whom came to the conference 21:28 rangi we'd be in india every year otherwise 21:27 rangi it came in after the thousand of votes for kohacon11 21:27 thd drojf: It has only been a guideline to follow for avoiding dominance by population which was discussed somewhat a few years ago. 21:27 drojf BobB i think we do not have enough options to have a fixed rule for that? 21:27 drojf i think 21:26 BobB_ rotate from E to W? :) 21:26 drojf i haven't :) 21:26 rangi who knows, we have ruled out bids using that before though 21:26 drojf is that in the wiki too? 21:26 drojf i never heard of that 21:26 cait that'd mean that dublin could be 2018 earliest? 21:25 thd rangi++ 21:25 rangi thats always been the guideline 21:25 cait ah 21:25 drojf thd: that would be a different rule 21:25 rangi thd: its not twice within 3 years 21:25 cait not the same continent twice in a row? 21:25 cait it hink we sould not overcomplicate 21:25 thd How would the rule be formed to prevent alternating between North America and Europe? 21:25 mtompset True enough. 21:24 drojf i'd say vote now, but i think its a bigger issue than version numbering, so maybe an announcement would be fair 21:24 mtompset I think we could vote on the continent rule being explicit and written. 21:24 cait ok, vote now or next meeting? 21:24 BobB_ pretty good balance, so what we've done seems to work :) 21:23 drojf cait: 1) vote on it as a rule, not only a guide or whatever it was so far 2) communicate it to dublin and in calls for hosts in genberal 21:23 BobB_ versus wellington, mumbai, cordoba, ibadan - so far 5 in EU / US and four outside 21:22 rangi are the 2 continents that have had it more than once 21:22 rangi reno, plano 21:22 cait ok, so what is the next step here? 21:22 drojf because locations too far fro the US and EU will have no chance otherwise 21:22 rangi paris, edinburgh, greece 21:21 drojf rangi: and the help of that rule. which is why i thin we should have it/keep it/make it a real rule written down somewhere 21:21 rangi there is precedence for it taking time 21:21 BobB_ yeah and they kept trying till they did 21:21 rangi it took nigeria 3 years to win 21:20 thd The potential issue may have been mentioned in the text of recent calls for proposals on the koha mailing list. 21:20 bag we don’t seem to get flooded with propsals 21:20 drojf well, it is a nice reminder of being actually active in the community you are trying to host a conference for 21:20 cait but better to know earlier than later 21:20 drojf not sure if that was public, i think they only send it to me 21:20 cait hope they won't be disappointed 21:19 drojf dublin tried to bid last year, btw. they were a day late 21:19 drojf but i like the way it was done so far 21:19 drojf no harm in having bids that dont fit, those are people that may bid again the following year 21:19 mtompset +1 to making it a real rule. :) 21:19 drojf so lets make it a real rule 21:18 drojf yes 21:18 rangi everyone gets a shot 21:18 rangi i think the beauty of kohacon is it moves around 21:18 drojf we could probably get you kohacons in europe for the next 5 or 10 years 21:18 rangi and we'd never end up with places like nigeria, which would be really unfortunate 21:18 BobB_ would be nice to bring it to Asia again 21:18 cait lots of options here in europe 21:18 cait yeah 21:18 rangi populous regions will always win it that way 21:18 drojf so maybe we should really set it as a rule 21:17 bag I sort more feel - if you want to volunteer to host - volunteer - more power to you 21:17 drojf there is a note, but its not a rule, just vague stuff someone noted (at least that is how it sounds) 21:17 rangi heh, yeah 10 is more practical, id like to bid for wellington 2020 21:17 mtompset Where are these rules? 21:17 drojf which would be cool :P 21:17 cait i think it's noted somewher on the wiki at least? 21:16 drojf according to the rules we should be in NZ every 5 years 21:16 cait not sure how to handle that 21:16 drojf i did not write that on the list, because the rules are not clear 21:16 drojf ah yes that 21:16 drojf not really something to discuss the next few months, is itr? 21:16 rangi 2 europe in a row 21:16 rangi I think Dublin might be out, because of the not twice in the same continent? 21:15 cait and one from the Philippines 21:15 cait for KohaCon bids we currently have one from Dublin, Ireland 21:15 cait ok 21:15 rangi :) 21:15 drojf ikourmou++ 21:15 ikourmou that's all from me 21:15 bag cool 21:15 cait :) 21:15 drojf cool 21:14 ikourmou we plan to propose the formation of Greek Koha Users Group 21:14 ikourmou just one more thing... 21:14 cait i'd like to move on 21:14 ikourmou drojf: noted 21:14 cait ok, if there is nothing mor urgent 21:14 drojf you should get consent to have all talks licensed CC or similar 21:14 thd s/later/non-realtime/ 21:13 ikourmou yes, we have some considerations on video size though 21:13 cait #info plan is to have straming for the whole KohaCon 21:13 bag not sure if you are a better nate pianohacker 21:13 thd ikourmou: Will you be recording the stream for later access? 21:13 drojf cool. and fair enough for people not registering in time 21:13 * pianohacker is better nate than lever 21:12 ikourmou we plan to have streaming for the whole Kohacon 21:11 huginn ikourmou: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 21:11 ikourmou @rangi: that makes thing easier for us 21:11 thd Hackfest presentations may be very informal explanations or discussions of some technical matters. 21:11 rangi ikourmou: its more like an unconference, the people there on any given day decide what they will work on 21:11 drojf i think liw would also be up for a debian packaging workshop in greece if its possible to decide in april. he just could not hand in a proposal now 21:10 ikourmou ah, ok 21:10 cait ikourmou: apart from providing the mentioned things,things usually get organized by the people attending - similar to marseille 21:10 ikourmou how do hackfest presentations work? 21:10 drojf not really, unless you got a lot of proposals for dev-only events 21:09 thd I encourage recording hackfest presentations for sharing with the world not attending in person. 21:09 ikourmou do we need to define sessions or subjects or anything? 21:09 cait enough power outlets, tables... maybe a projector if that would not be too hard 21:09 cait :) 21:09 bag good internet 21:09 ikourmou checked! 21:08 cait wifi 21:08 cait ikourmou: anything you need us to do/decide/volunteer? 21:08 ikourmou I would like to ask if there are any special considerations for the hackfest? 21:08 rangi +1 21:08 cait we still have some topics to deal with 21:08 cait maybe we can talk more about dealing with 'more' once we reach it? 21:08 drojf that was in the flyer too ;) 21:07 drojf are you planning on streaming video or audioi? 21:07 ikourmou yes, they will be probalby booked by then... 21:07 drojf *booked 21:07 drojf yes 21:07 drojf and/or bookes for other stuff 21:07 ikourmou you mean the building kohacon is gonna take place? 21:06 drojf but that would probably be way more expensive too 21:06 drojf ikourmou: i saw you have several rooms there 21:06 ikourmou thx @rangi 21:06 rangi :) 21:06 rangi 136 21:05 ikourmou ok, we will work sth out, if we reach the limit :-) 21:05 cait live bloggers get seats... rest standing or on the floor? ;) 21:04 thd Stamding room Koha :) 21:04 drojf ok so we can squeeze 200 in probably? i suppose not everyone is attending all sessions 21:04 ikourmou we could expand it by projecting the presentations in the foyer (just a thought) 21:03 ikourmou no, just seating 21:03 * rangi will register .. I may have to try and seek some sponsorship to come though, but ill register 21:03 thd ikourou: Is 175 merely a seating limit or also a legal/safety limit for the venue? 21:03 rangi drojf: that or the first one in paris 21:03 * cait is glad she has registered already 21:02 drojf what was the biggest kohacon so far? reno? 21:02 bag 175 is a good number 21:02 drojf with 135 already… that may be full soon 21:02 ikourmou sooner more than later 21:02 ikourmou so we are approaching a limit 21:01 ikourmou the venue we have booked has about 175 seats 21:01 ikourmou cait: thx 21:01 ikourmou but I would really love to have some feedback from the people here 21:00 cait ikourmou: the updates on the conf page are nice! 21:00 cait #info 25 proposals for presentations 21:00 cait #info 135 registrations so far 21:00 ikourmou I would say that in general everything goes as planned 21:00 cait #info Call for sponsorships is open 21:00 cait #link http://kohacon2016.lib.auth.gr/?page_id=462 20:59 ikourmou http://kohacon2016.lib.auth.gr/?page_id=462 20:59 ikourmou we also have opened the "call for sponsorships" 20:59 bag nice 20:59 ikourmou we plan to invite some of you (eg koha elders) to form the committee... 20:58 ikourmou so now we have to form the program committee that will evaluate the proposals 20:58 rangi cool 25 is a good number! 20:58 gmcharlt :D 20:57 ikourmou the call for proposals has ended on 7th of March 20:57 ikourmou and more than 25 proposals for presentations 20:57 rangi yay! 20:57 mtompset Nice. 20:57 BobB awesome 20:57 drojf w00t 20:57 ikourmou about 135 registrations already 20:56 ikourmou let me give some numbers first 20:56 ikourmou ok, no prob 20:56 cait thx for the patience ikourmou 20:56 cait let's start with Greece 20:56 cait #topic KohaCon 20:56 cait also, hackfests can help make new devs 20:56 cait ah not quite true 20:55 drojf cait: it has not been advertised there because all german devs are already coming :P 20:55 cait ok, moving on? 20:54 BobB would so like to come, its just not possible 20:54 drojf its hard to tell 20:54 drojf so it would be helpful to know if peopke made their plans already. rome was full within 3 or 4 weeks 20:54 cait but it has not been advertised to the german lists so far 20:54 cait i think ther would be some interest here 20:53 reiveune bye 20:53 drojf i will appoach german libraries that may be interested at some point if there is very little response from koha devs 20:52 drojf i dont know if people fixed their plans for greece already, so its hard to tell if there is more to come 20:51 cait drojf: because youneed help advertising obviously 20:51 drojf :P 20:51 drojf so we would have one workshop per person 20:51 cait #info there will be a Catmandu workshop 20:51 drojf so far very little people registered, namely cait ;) 20:51 bag I’ll be heavy asleep on the 27th of may so I won’t be able to be there - but see you in greece 20:51 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackfest_2016 20:50 drojf liw will get back to me in april about a debian packaging workshop 20:50 drojf not really anything new from me… 20:50 cait drojf? 20:50 * talljoy expected the earth to shake 20:50 drojf rangi: yay :) 20:50 barton gmcharlt: I too am in shock. 20:50 gmcharlt (I may be a little excited about that outcome) 20:49 rangi im still waiting for work to OK me to go 20:49 gmcharlt ;) 20:49 gmcharlt YES WE WILL MOVE ON, HAVING UNLOCK THE ACHIVEMENT OF A VERSION NUMBER CONVENTION DISCUSSION THAT WAS ACTUALLY BRIEF!!!!1!!!! 20:49 cait #topic Hackfest in Berlin 20:49 bag :) 20:49 cait probably unlikely 20:49 bag moving on 20:49 drojf i doubt there will be 11 people here next time that hate the idea 20:49 cait moving on? 20:49 cait #agreed Koha's release version scheme will be changed to be date based, e.g. 16.05 20:48 huginn yes (10): cait, mtompset, BobB, bag, gmcharlt, talljoy, thd, drojf, rangi, ikourmou 20:48 huginn Voted on "Shall the next major Koha release change the version scheme to yy.mm.minor, e.g., 16.05?" Results are 20:48 cait #endvote 20:48 cait ok, closing voooote 20:48 cait i meant the comma :) 20:48 drojf gmcharlt: yeah i was reading that, wondering what it was about and tried to vote at the same time :) 20:48 BobB #vote yes 20:47 gmcharlt nah, drojf was just agreeing with cait's statement that ... isn't a valid choice! ;) 20:47 drojf awww thanks talljoy 20:47 * talljoy hands drojf a cookie 20:47 mtompset Does anyone say no or abstain? 20:47 drojf i was too excited :D 20:47 * mtompset laughs at drojf 20:47 ikourmou #vote yes 20:47 rangi heh 20:47 drojf #vote yes 20:47 drojf damn 20:47 gmcharlt #vote yes 20:47 thd #vote yes 20:47 talljoy #vote yes 20:47 drojf yes 20:47 cait #vote yes 20:47 mtompset #vote yes 20:47 bag #vote yes 20:47 rangi #vote yes 20:47 cait obviously... , should not be an option 20:46 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:46 huginn Begin voting on: Shall the next major Koha release change the version scheme to yy.mm.minor, e.g., 16.05? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 20:46 cait #startvote Shall the next major Koha release change the version scheme to yy.mm.minor, e.g., 16.05? (yes,no) 20:46 thd Would we be punting the fine details for further consideration of any actual implementation of the concept in any case? 20:46 gmcharlt Shall the next major Koha release change the version scheme to yy.mm.minor, e.g., 16.05? 20:45 cait not sure why I amalways strugglingwith this 20:45 gmcharlt how about this... 20:45 cait ok, can someone phrase a yes/no question for me? 20:45 mtompset So, please restate what is to be voted on. 20:45 drojf barton: either one or the other, whatever happens first :P 20:44 cait ok 20:44 barton drojf: is that accidentally or 'accidentally' ? 20:44 thd drojf: As bag rightly proposed in proposing the form of the issue that we should wait to consider further. 20:44 gmcharlt vote now, and call it a straw poll if there are serious objections aftwaards? 20:44 drojf its not like we have millions of people at the meetings, and it seems we basically agree atm 20:44 bag :) 20:44 drojf lets vote now and give the world a chance to debate it next time. and i will accidentally miss the meeting :P 20:44 cait that'smy only complaint too 20:44 cait yeah 20:43 bag I’m fine with voting now - the only complaint is I added this to the agenda yesterday 20:43 mtompset I like that... yy.{whatever signifier we agree on} 20:43 drojf can't we have it now? 20:43 bag yes 20:43 mtompset ooo... 16.spaghetti. 20:43 cait so we are going to have a yes/no vote next meeting? 20:43 rangi but really the external facing number is the important one 20:43 cait ok 20:43 andreashm 16.spagetti? 20:43 gmcharlt rangi: this_has_literal_c4_in_it.1... 20:43 drojf lets not make that nice and simple vote boring and complicated 20:42 rangi etc :) 20:42 rangi lets call it dont_use_this.2 20:42 rangi lets call it dont_use_this.1 20:42 cait let's be hopeful :) 20:42 gmcharlt rangi: one would hope, anyway ;) 20:42 rangi so its just an internal thing 20:42 rangi no one except us devs should be using it 20:42 thd Additionally, if an actual release date slips a little does it signify the wrong thing in versioning or would date use be fudged for an easily understood convention not strictly tied to date? 20:42 rangi we can call it spaghetti if we want for unstable 20:42 drojf i'd say let the RM decide 20:42 gmcharlt but more broadly, I agree with drojf that that's a detail we can punt on 20:41 drojf ok that is kind of the same in reverse 20:41 cait #info unstable /in development could be 17.00 / 17.06 20:41 drojf i'd say 16.04, 16.05 and 16.10 and 16.11. or whatever else 20:41 gmcharlt drojf: right - 16.00 (unstable) 16.05 (stable) 16.06 (unstable again) 16.11 (stable) 20:41 cait sorry:) 20:41 cait ahok 20:41 drojf gmcharlt: we have two 16 releases and need to prior-versions 20:41 bag ahh.. there gmcharlt said it better 20:41 bag cait 00 is after 11 20:41 drojf i'd say thats a detail that can easily be decided on once we vote for the general change 20:40 gmcharlt 16.05 == May release; 16.00 == stuff prior to May, i.e., unstable 20:40 mtompset right now even stable, odd unstable. 20:40 cait sorry,not getting it 20:40 cait gmcharlt: why 00 06? 20:40 mtompset That's the part that confused me too, thd. 20:40 drojf so the vote could just be as simple as "switch to 16.05 style numberin? yes/no" 20:40 gmcharlt 17.00 / 17.06, perhaps 20:39 cait hm 20:39 thd s/single/signifier/ 20:39 thd bag: Would there be a single for a nonstable build? 20:38 bag ok vote now - or this motion passes for the next agenda “choice between 16.05.x or 3.24.x, but intentionally *not* opening floor to alternatives†20:38 gmcharlt http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/darth-vaders-noooooooooooo 20:38 drojf or we spend months inventing other schemes 20:37 drojf gmcharlt: yes lets get it over with as long as it seems we agree 20:37 mtompset Still need clarification of intermediate fixes. 20:37 gmcharlt my proposal is a little selfish, to be clear: I have a strong aversion to version numbering debates :) 20:37 mtompset Yes, stop 3.x branch. Yes, yy.mm use. 20:36 bag yes 20:36 cait i guess that would make things a lot easier 20:36 cait ah 20:36 gmcharlt i.e., choice between 16.05.x or 3.24.x, but intentionally *not* opening floor to alternatives 20:36 mtompset So, yy.mm(of release).{realease number}? 20:36 rangi +1 20:36 cait gmcharlt++ 20:35 gmcharlt might I suggest that (at least this time around) we make the vote itself be strictly yes/no? 20:35 cait #info bugfix releases would be numbered 16.05.1 ... 20:35 drojf with several supported branches and stuff 20:35 rangi yeah 20:35 drojf rangi: the other way is probably too confusing 20:35 bag 16.05.01 20:35 bag ok so I presented the idea. I was thinking we’d get it out there and then maybe vote at the next meeting 20:35 cait i'd prefer the first i think 20:35 rangi drojf: .01 i think 20:35 drojf will it be 16.05.1 or 16.06 then in the next month? 20:35 cait mtompset: only every 6 months 20:34 gmcharlt *objection 20:34 * gmcharlt has no object to 16.05 (and I've double-checked that it won't cause any problems with Debian package version number comparisons) 20:34 mtompset What about oldstable? 16.05.{revision}? 20:34 drojf :P 20:34 drojf no 3.33? :( 20:34 mtompset And each month 16.mm? 20:34 bag yes mtompset 20:34 bag yes it does more so than 3.30 20:34 mtompset So... what is expected to be 3.24.0 is going to be 16.05.0? 20:33 drojf 17.11 looks cool on the other hand 20:33 drojf i am 16 dysphoric, or what kids call it these days 20:33 rangi 16.05 The source awakens 20:33 cait drojf: you have an aversion against the number 16? 20:33 bag ah yes - but I changed the message in the pushed to master - it now says the time of when it *should* be in the release 20:32 cait we'd still have master :) 20:32 cait bag: hm but why is that a problem with the numbering? 20:32 drojf i like the date based too, because you can immediately see how ancient your version is (well, you can't if you stay on 308 forever). i only don't like 16, i think. don't take it too seriously 20:32 rangi yeah, at the moment i have to go look it up ;) 20:32 bag the numbering has caused problems for us - when we’ve been behind a release or two - and the bug says pushed to master 20:32 talljoy YES! 20:31 cait will make it a lot easier to tell them just how old it really is :) 20:31 rangi drojf: they can still have code names too ;) 20:31 cait #info Suggestion: use a data based versioning for next release - 16.05 20:31 BobB yes indded 20:31 rangi it has a big advantage of people seeing they are on the 12.05 release 20:31 talljoy there is that... 20:30 drojf and it lacks chocolate/cookie related stuff 20:30 talljoy i like that 20:30 bag following a yy.mm numbering going forward 20:30 talljoy you mean as in the year/month? 20:30 rangi i like the date based idea 20:30 drojf or, looks 20:30 drojf that sounds ugly 20:30 bag koha has been on 3.x for about 6 years now 20:30 * mtompset cheers, "Here! Here! gmcharlt!" 20:30 bag I’d like to propose that the next release of koha be - 16.05 20:30 rangi heh 20:29 drojf and everyone who voted has to signoff one crypto patch 20:29 mtompset Oh you are right. 20:29 gmcharlt fence-sitters need to do 6 for being indecisive ;) 20:29 bag #info everyone who voted needs to signoff at least 3 patches 20:29 mtompset +1 to that. :) 20:29 cait i think it was 3-2 20:29 rangi </new rule> 20:29 rangi everyone who voted needs to signoff at least 3 patches 20:29 bag that was me that added that to the agenda 20:28 cait that was long to type... 20:28 mtompset Wait... it looked like a tie. 20:28 cait #topic Discussion on proposing a new version numbering for Koha 20:28 cait #action cait to send an e-mail about GBSD 20:28 BobB barton you cancelled my vote :) 20:28 cait #agreed next GBSD to be on March 24th 20:27 cait ok 20:27 barton cait: 24 20:27 BobB ok, 31 20:27 cait you people make it hard tocount :) 20:27 mtompset Ooooo... back to back GBSD's. 20:27 BobB i'm prolly neutral too 20:27 cait barton: is that a 31 or 24 for you? 20:27 barton ... and then follow drojf's lead on the 31st, if that's better. 20:26 cait neutral too 20:26 * gmcharlt is neutral on 24/31 20:26 barton 24 20:26 * gmcharlt makes note to self - write script to automatically lock out a BZ account if it has been continuously used for more than 12 hours ;) 20:26 bag 24 20:26 mtompset I'm for 31. :) 20:26 drojf 24 20:26 drojf i am too old for that :) 20:26 mtompset 31 20:25 mtompset drojf: Do it for 48 hours straight no sleep, then it is global. ;) 20:25 cait and then i will moveon to the next topic, promise :) 20:25 drojf will be a challenge to get me global :D 20:25 cait ok, quick vote? thursday 31st or thursday 24th 20:25 mtompset drojf++ # for wanting to do his own GBSD. 20:24 drojf i'll do my own then 20:24 drojf i liked the 24th 20:24 cait it's me 20:24 cait aaahsorry 20:24 BobB Thu 31 is ok 20:24 barton cait: I couldn't think of a better time... 20:24 drojf maybe i am not following 20:24 mtompset I thought we said no fridays. 20:24 bag :) 20:24 drojf didn't we just say friday is bad? 20:24 cait might just be dangerous becauseof the jokes :) 20:24 cait april 1st? 20:24 cait the weekafter a friday would work i think 20:23 BobB more time to promote it maybe 20:23 BobB but week after is ok 20:23 drojf less clients to urgently deal with ;) 20:23 BobB i'm not sure what affect it would have 20:23 drojf i though that would be good 20:23 cait so is that good or bad? 20:23 cait BobB: so better the week after? 20:23 BobB here too 20:22 barton cait -- not to worry :-) 20:22 cait here friday is the holiday 20:22 cait ah 20:22 BobB its the day before Easter 20:22 cait i hope everyone quiet doesn't mean i will be the only one present ;) 20:22 rangi 24th is fine 20:22 rangi thanks 20:22 cait i#d add a page tothe wiki and send an email about it 20:21 cait so quiet... 20:21 bag 24th looks good 20:21 gmcharlt good point :) 20:20 cait gmcharlt: no calories:) 20:20 rangi be nice to make it a biggish one, and do a blog post about it 20:20 rangi any day with sufficient warning is ok for me 20:20 gmcharlt Cookies over IRC? 20:20 rangi heh 20:20 cait do i need to bribe the audience with cookies? :) 20:19 cait 24th? 20:19 cait maybe a thursday? 20:18 cait also one of the next fridays is a public holiday in lots of countries 20:18 cait so thatwould be an argument for maybe use another day 20:17 cait yeah true 20:17 rangi yep, but i wont be updating the scoreboard etc on the saturday is all im saying 20:17 cait in theory, gbsd starts your friday 20:17 rangi friday for you is saturday for me 20:17 cait some people prefer a Friday 20:17 bag yay! 20:17 cait If people share that opinion, the next question would be about a possible date 20:16 cait I was thinking... i tmight be time for another GBSD 20:16 cait #topic GBSD 20:16 cait movin gon then again 20:16 cait ok 20:15 cait jajm, fredericd ? 20:15 cait or one of the rmaints? 20:15 cait bag again? ;) 20:14 cait #topic Update on Releases 20:14 cait ok 20:14 bag ok cait - I think we are ready to move on 20:13 bag yes URL::Encode is not in debian 20:12 mtompset Which is what bag was getting at, I think. :) 20:12 nengard #info Nicole Engard, ByWater 20:12 bag added that to my workflow 20:12 bag that’s a good example of a place that I need to communicate a bit more :) 20:12 cait i think there might be ways around using that specific one? 20:12 cait mtompset: hm tried to install it on Ubuntu - but didn't find it 20:11 * mtompset nods. 20:11 bag yes URL::Encode - there is a suggestion on how to work with packages that are already in koha (I posted the comment to the bug) 20:11 mtompset or is URL::Encode in Debian, but not currently in Koha? ... nevermnd. 20:10 cait #info Elastic search rebase --- done 20:10 thd bag: Is the koha Debian repository still working for serving packages? 20:10 bag ? 20:09 mtompset So your first comment was like about URL::Encode and the like? 20:09 rangi oh, I just finished the rebase :) 20:09 bag That’s it from me - unless anyone has any questions 20:09 cait anything else? 20:07 cait #info Problems with Schema updates are being worked on 20:07 cait #info Elastic search branch is being rebased 20:07 huginn 04Bug 14899: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Mapping configuration page for Elastic search 20:07 bag https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14899 20:06 bag yes his patch needs rebase (looking for number one sec) 20:06 rangi joubu also expressed desire to work on ES too, so you might want to touch base with him 20:06 bag sweet 20:06 rangi bout halfway there 20:05 bag thank you rangi 20:05 bag Elastic search branch - is currently being rebased on master by rangi (there is a change in the Koha::ItemType that needs to be adjusted) Once that is caught up - I will add a weekly rebase to that on master until we are able to move that forward into Koha. 20:05 bag As always - please don't hesitate to talk to me - point out anything you think I am missing. 20:05 bag Schema updates. I know there are a few problems there - khall and I will be working on that to fix those. That has been the second weakest part of my workflow and I'm adjusting that and getting better. 20:05 * bag prepared his notes ahead of time (so it’s copy and paste) I’ll slow down to give everyone a chance to read 20:04 bag Again I am learning :) 20:04 bag I understand that it shouldn't be all new packages will be created and I need to do a better job of checking if they are in debian already and if not - start a discussion for alternative methods. I will be seeking help on any that come up until I feel I've mastered that part. 20:04 bag I was under the wrong assumption with packages (my mistake) and have adjusted my workflow. 20:03 bag I am learning tons! Constantly adjusting my workflow. I know there are some things I've missed so making sure that the workflow adjusts to not miss things 20:03 bag Goal one is to maintain a low PQA queue - so daily attention 20:03 bag RM update 20:03 rangi #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst 20:03 cait bag? 20:03 andreashm #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm Univ 20:02 cait hm...s 20:02 cait #topic Announcement 20:02 cait ok, moving on 20:02 cait ... or two 20:02 gmcharlt #info Galen Charlton, ESI, USA 20:02 cait ok, let's move on in a moment 20:01 ikourmou #info Giannis Kourmoulis, AUTh, Thessaloniki, Greece 20:01 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:01 BobB #info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Sydney Australia 20:01 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_9_March_2016 20:01 cait today's agenda is 20:01 bag #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater 20:01 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 20:01 cait .. and where is wahanui? 20:01 drojf #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany 20:00 cait please introduce yourself using #info 20:00 talljoy #info Joy Nelson, ByWater Solutions 20:00 mtompset #info Mark Tompsett 20:00 barton #info barton, BWS, Louisville KY, USA 20:00 cait #topic Introductions 20:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'genereal_irc_meeting_9_march_2016' 20:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:00 huginn Meeting started Wed Mar 9 20:00:42 2016 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00 cait #startmeeting Genereal IRC meeting 9 March 2016 20:00 cait ok, let's get this started 20:00 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 19:59 barton cait: I'm here with bells on. 19:59 ikourmou hello! 19:59 barton afternoon #koha! 19:59 cait everyone ready? :) 19:57 BobB hi bag, talljoy 19:56 talljoy hiya BobB 19:56 oleonard Bye all 19:56 bag morning BobB 19:56 oleonard Sorry to have to miss the meeting. I hope it is productive. 19:56 BobB good morning 19:53 rangi well Koha::Database does 19:52 rangi when you drill down 19:52 rangi oh yes it does 19:47 * cait waves 19:45 rangi that kinda sux 19:43 rangi Koha::Object doesn't have accessors built in eh? 19:40 rangi but once that is reconciled, the rest should rebase fine 19:40 rangi this is gonna take a bit, because of Koha::ItemType and Koha::ItemTypes 19:38 rangi more likely 19:37 oleonard Or else everyone ignored the fact that there was no preview of the upload and just clicked "Save quotes" 19:37 rangi ok, rebasing elasticsearch 19:37 rangi heh 19:37 oleonard My most nefarious scheme to date. 19:37 rangi I guess it's not a super widely used feature 19:37 rangi easy as that 19:36 oleonard Boom, quotes uploads are broken for 3 years. 19:36 oleonard - float : left; 19:34 rangi heh 19:34 * oleonard subconsciously broke the quotes uploader on purpose 19:33 oleonard ...for having broken the quotes uploader in 2013. That's a whole lotta quotes not getting uploaded, ever. 19:32 oleonard Ugh... git blames ME! 19:31 * oleonard will leave just then, offers his votes to anyone who wants them 19:31 bag yes 19:30 rangi is it the meeting in 30 mins? 19:26 bag hi rangi 19:24 drojf hi rangi 19:24 rangi cya tcohen 19:23 tcohen later #koha 19:22 tcohen hi rangi 19:22 oleonard Hi rangi 19:22 rangi morning 19:19 oleonard Quotes uploader doesn't work for me. 19:17 tcohen drojf: not a good idea 19:16 tcohen brrr 19:16 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Nice, France is 9.0°C (8:00 PM CET on March 09, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). 19:16 tcohen @wunder nice, france 19:16 huginn tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. 19:16 tcohen @wunder nice 19:13 drojf nice 19:12 oleonard Crazy warm here. 19:12 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is 24.1°C (2:11 PM EST on March 09, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 19:12 oleonard @wunder 45701 19:11 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 11.0°C (8:50 PM EET on March 09, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 19:11 drojf @wunder thessaloniki 19:10 drojf i ate too much icecream and now i'm cold. life is complicated 19:03 huginn oleonard: I suck 19:03 oleonard huginn I think you spelled "rome" wrong on that last one :P 19:03 drojf there is a lot of romes 19:03 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Roaming Shores - Beach 2 Cove, Roaming Shores, Ohio is 20.2°C (2:03 PM EST on March 09, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 19:03 oleonard @wunder rome, OH 19:03 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in E. Garden, Rome, New York is 24.1°C (2:02 PM EST on March 09, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). 19:03 oleonard @wunder rome, NY 19:02 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Oak Hill & The Martha Berry Museum, Rome, Georgia is 26.8°C (1:56 PM EST on March 09, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). 19:02 oleonard @wunder rome, GA 19:02 drojf needs more warm 19:02 drojf heh 19:02 tcohen it's already burnt dorjf 19:01 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Largo di Torre Argentina, Roma, Italy is 10.4°C (7:53 PM CET on March 09, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 19:01 drojf @wunder rome, italy 19:01 huginn drojf: Error: No such location could be found. 19:01 drojf @wunder rome 18:31 bag yup :) 18:27 drojf i added some line breaks to the fundraising wiki page. i hope that#s ok 18:22 drojf meeting in 1.5 hours? 18:22 drojf evening 17:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16030 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Automatic item modifications by age missing from admin sidebar 17:22 nengard :) 17:22 oleonard nengard thanks for Bug 16030, you beat me to it. 17:21 oleonard nengard++ 17:12 bag ah seems like it 17:08 oleonard That must be a copy-and-paste error. 17:07 oleonard patroncards/add_user_search.pl says flagsrequired => { serials => 'routing' } ! 17:07 oleonard patroncards/home.pl says flagsrequired => { catalogue => 1 }, but tools-home.tt checks CAN_user_tools_label_creator 16:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15994: Adding font awesome icons to Funds actions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e9143e214b31dfb52c784029ad98c40af7584b4> 16:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15981 - Serials frequencies can be deleted without warning <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e82b8db94ee24ebd49541c25a6dac55cb8d543c> 16:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15982 - Serials numbering patterns can be deleted without warning <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6179f04c8afcbc965756cf7daea039be986727d7> 16:22 pianohacker dammit, constant missed connections 16:22 bag he took off a bit ago pianohacker 16:15 pianohacker Joubu: around? 16:15 pianohacker hi 16:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15979 - Use Font Awesome icons subscription deletion confirmation dialog <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a234d27cbe6e0c19c135e13b3ecc86fe5b1bfdcb> 15:57 bag go for it nengard :D 15:53 nengard hehe 15:53 nengard ooooo 15:52 oleonard Quick, someone run a "how to sign off patches" workshop and take advantage of all my trivial patches. 15:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15988: Moving authority types actions into a drop-down menu <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b648e8c8bf0fc0f851931eba60c7692f6b0ee726> 15:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15084 - Update schema files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=82c4fd42ce22a421324a17a4908011d68189c1c4> / DBRev Bug 15084 - Move the currency related code to <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=361ee8beabc6fbb1ffd37c12e05b5394e527a442> / Bug 15084: [QA Follow-up] Correct field length of currency <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0 14:50 bag yes cait :) 14:48 nengard it's the CIL keynote panel he's on 14:48 nengard https://twitter.com/hashtag/cildc?f=tweets&vertical=default&src=hash 14:48 nengard it's awesome 14:48 nengard yup!!! 14:46 cait looks like NateC is creating some noise on twitter :) 13:57 marcelr nothing better than a good breakfast bag 13:54 bag so cookies from here too tcohen Joubu and marcelr 13:53 bag nice 13:53 marcelr cait++ 13:52 * cait sendsmore cookies to tcohen, Joubu and marcelr 13:51 Joubu have to run, see you #koha 13:44 bag heh 13:43 marcelr :) 13:43 tcohen no! I meant that i'd be great that i could fix tax rates so they fit my monthly budget :-P 13:42 marcelr tcohen: if you want to qa tax rates, please do so :) 13:41 Joubu tcohen: everybody wants but not when the patches are ready to test 13:40 tcohen i think everyone always wants to fix tax rates 13:40 bag I sure am oleonard - couldn’t sleep so why not work ;) 13:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Tax and prices calculation need to be fixed 13:39 marcelr Joubu: katrin once started qaing bug 13321; i must have hoped that she would continue.. 13:39 oleonard You're up early bag 13:37 bag morning tcohen 13:37 tcohen morning bag 13:37 marcelr np 13:37 bag marcelr++ 13:37 bag thanks! 13:37 bag it’s looking like it is and good find on that FK 13:36 bag hi marcelr 13:36 marcelr hope that it is the last one :) 13:36 bag yes I’m still working on 15084 (it’s on my todo list :) 13:36 marcelr hi bag 13:35 Joubu https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=13323 13:35 bag morning 13:34 marcelr 13324? 13:34 marcelr there is also another one/ 13:34 Joubu actually I won't produce code to the acq module until these 2 reports are pushed 13:34 marcelr i will try to look at them in a next qa session 13:33 Joubu yes completely 13:33 marcelr these acq reports you mentioned 13:33 Joubu marcelr: overlap with what? 13:32 marcelr Joubu: is there any overlap ? 13:28 marcelr hopefully this is an exception; it was pushed but needed several repairs after that 13:27 marcelr oleonard: they probably could have been? depends on what RMaints will do or not do with a bug report 13:22 oleonard Should the pushed patches have been obsoleted? 13:19 marcelr i guess 15962 can be applied immediately 13:18 marcelr it still needs rm attention 13:18 marcelr yes and that is correct 13:18 oleonard marcelr: The status of the bug was "passed qa" before I changed it. 13:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15084 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , Move the currency related code to Koha::Acquisition::Currenc[y|ies] 13:17 marcelr oleonard: most patches of bug 15084 have been pushed already; see the comments 12:53 JesseDhammu thank you very much 12:53 JesseDhammu tcohen: thanks, ill check it and will let you know if anything happens 12:52 JesseDhammu and if i do that and then import the data on koha, would it automatically associate the item with the record..?? 12:51 tcohen exactly 12:51 tcohen and you need to put it all together into 952 fields 12:51 JesseDhammu ok ,, ill try to export the data again, with 952 field, which could contain, call number, barcode, and item type details .. 12:51 tcohen maybe you have most of the data there, in some non-standard fields 12:51 tcohen well, maybe 12:51 tcohen yes 12:50 JesseDhammu so it means there is some missing data in the exported file from CDSISIS 12:50 tcohen notice there are some mandatory subfields 12:50 tcohen follow that guide to build your holdings fields 12:50 tcohen https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29 12:49 tcohen holdings fields? 12:49 tcohen holdings? 12:49 tcohen JesseDhammu: I don't see any 952 field 12:48 marcelr hi tcohen oleonard 12:48 JesseDhammu tcohen: just pasted 2 sample records 12:48 tcohen hi marcelr oleonard 12:47 pastebot "JesseDhammu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "CSSSC sample records" (41 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/329 12:46 marcelr hi #koha 12:46 oleonard Hi #koha 12:42 tcohen and paste it in http://paste.koha-community.org so we can help you 12:42 tcohen grab a sample record 12:42 tcohen you should run the command yaz-marcdump file.mrc 12:41 JesseDhammu but it dosent work 12:41 JesseDhammu and while importing i have checked check and import item record data 12:41 * tcohen been there 12:41 JesseDhammu tcohen: i exported the data from CDSISIS 12:40 tcohen you can re-import the same file, and apply a matching rule so data is not duplicated 12:40 tcohen if you have a unique value on the 001 field 12:39 tcohen and do the import 12:39 tcohen JesseDhammu: you need to code the items information as documented on the wiki, on repeatable 952 fields for each item 12:38 JesseDhammu Joubu: what is the diffrence between importing bibliographic records and importing Authority records .. 12:36 Joubu on tools/stage-marc-import.pl, you upload your mrc file, then you will have options for check/select 12:35 JesseDhammu Joubu: and where is the import items option, in the tools menu or in administration ..? 12:35 Joubu If it's a new install, it's certainly better to restart from scratch 12:34 JesseDhammu so do i need to upload the same mrc file for importing the items ..? 12:33 JesseDhammu ok 12:33 Joubu JesseDhammu: you must check the "import items" options to import items 12:32 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:32 Joubu @later tell oleonard sorry for spamming you :D 12:32 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:32 Joubu @later tell oleonard just put 15993, 15990, 15989 and 15995 in discussion. Either we go for the dropdown, or we add 2 bootstrap buttons 12:32 Joubu erk 12:32 huginn Joubu: I've exhausted my database of quotes 12:32 Joubu @oleonard just put 15993, 15990, 15989 and 15995 in discussion. Either we go for the dropdown, or we add 2 bootstrap buttons 12:31 JesseDhammu how to do the rest of the work ..?? 12:31 JesseDhammu but now in cataloge i see the records dose not have any item associated. no Call number and No Barcode number. 12:31 JesseDhammu i have imported my data from marc file, only bibliographic records. 12:30 JesseDhammu i need some help with koha Marc import 12:30 JesseDhammu hello 12:28 tcohen i found a bug in the sitemapper 12:28 tcohen hm, yes 12:28 tcohen he worked a lot on passing the tests I provided 12:28 Joubu It's a bit scary today, I QA a patch and find a bug in master... 12:27 tcohen i will QA mtompset patches first 12:27 Joubu tcohen: yes! :) 12:27 tcohen :-D 12:27 tcohen ? 12:27 tcohen working hard 12:27 Joubu cait: ok I will put them in discussion, waiting for a consensus 12:27 tcohen working on QA? 12:27 Joubu tcohen: my example? 12:26 cait Joubu: it's what oleonard suggested on one of those many bugs - i failed to locate the one last night where he suggestd it 12:26 tcohen Joubu: I'll try to follow your example 12:26 Joubu I have passed qa several patches this morning :-/ 12:26 cait morning tcohen :) 12:26 Joubu erk 12:25 cait you didn't ask me ... but.... :) 12:25 tcohen morning 12:25 cait Joubu: i think i'd like having buttons for 2 and only a dro down for 3, because of the extra click 12:25 cait i am pro 3 12:20 drojf hi #koha 12:08 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:08 Joubu @later tell oleonard, could you that confirm bug 15993 is ok (dropdown menu for 2 entries: delete + edit). Or should we have at least 3 to create a dropdown? 11:36 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:36 Joubu @later tell oleonard I would love to get your opinion on bug 15119 :) 10:06 gaetan_B hello 09:39 sophie_m koha is always full of surprise for me :) 09:36 Joubu sophie_m: it's a very old script! 09:36 sophie_m I didn't know this script, it will be very useful for me Joubu 09:35 Joubu sophie_m: ? :) 09:35 sophie_m oh, joubu, you make my day :) 09:34 Joubu reza: have a look at misc/maintenance/borrowers-force-messaging-defaults 09:18 reza how can I change all the borrowers notification setting? 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