Time  Nick            Message
00:21 jcamins         wizzyrea: those don't really seem like make-on-Sunday-for-the-entire week meals.
00:23 jcamins         I decided to make croissant dough with cheese rolled in instead of butter.
00:23 jcamins         With twice as much yeast as needed, by accident.
00:35 wizzyrea        fluffy!
00:36 Francesca       yum
00:37 * Francesca     is hungry now
00:38 jcamins         Then I forgot that one uses a letter fold for folded doughs, so...
00:38 jcamins         oops.
00:39 * jcamins       is making a rolled-in dough for the first time ever.
01:17 reza            Hi, I'm trying to download the Koha package. apt downloaded 469 dependent packages but only the package koha-common download speed is very low. download speed is 8B/s. Is there a way that I can download from a different source?
02:06 jcamins         wizzyrea: cheddar-laminated dough is a fantastic idea.
02:06 jcamins         FYI
02:09 jcamins         More generally, I think cheese-laminated dough is just a fantastic idea.
02:10 wizzyrea        I have made some crazy amazing cheese scones this year
02:10 wizzyrea        http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/cuisine/69193940/recipe-ministry-of-food-cheese-scones
02:10 wizzyrea        they cayenne pepper is key.
02:11 jcamins         That kind is good too, but the layers are pretty great.
02:11 wizzyrea        it might not be the same with non-nz cheese though
02:11 wizzyrea        :)
02:12 reza            I'm trying to download the Koha package. apt downloaded 469 dependent packages but only the package koha-common download speed is very low. download speed is 8B/s. Is there a way that I can download from a different source?
02:12 wizzyrea        yeah I like cheesy bread things
02:12 wizzyrea        no, there is no other source for the packages
02:12 jcamins         reza: no.
02:12 reza            what could cause such thing?
02:13 wizzyrea        I will get someone to check that there isn't something systemically wrong with the server though.
02:13 wizzyrea        ping gmcharlt
02:13 wizzyrea        or rangi
02:14 jcamins         I have access.
02:14 jcamins         No load.
02:15 reza            Ping reply from rangi: 1.44 second(s)
02:16 jcamins         I'm getting almost 5 MB/s from there, so it looks like it's routing closer to you.
02:17 reza            hmmm, okay, thank you. going to complain to the network guy :)
07:30 Joubu           hi
07:45 reiveune        hello
07:47 * magnuse       waves
07:51 * Francesca     waves too
07:54 alex_a          bonjour
08:08 marcelr         hi #koha
08:10 sophie_m        hi #koha
09:05 cait            jajm++ :)
09:13 jajm            cait, hi! but.. what is that ++ for ? :)
09:15 cait            for release maintaining :)
09:17 jajm            ok :)
09:17 reza            how can I check if my server has any routing problem with koha server
09:17 reza            ?
09:17 jajm            then
09:17 jajm            cait++
09:17 jajm            for QA managing ;)
09:18 cait            ah... lazy qa manager...
09:19 reza            I'mtrying to download and install a fresh koha by koha-common. all the dependencies have downloaded but when it reaches the  debian.koha-common.org/koha the download speed become 8 B
09:19 reza            Get:472 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ stable/main koha-common all 3.22.04 [60.3 MB]
09:19 reza            55% [472 koha-common 6,346 B/60.3 MB 0%]                8 B/s 87d 17h 16min 11s
09:19 reza            it's going to take 87 days
09:26 reza            anyone?
09:28 Joubu           @later tell pianohacker ping me when around (about 11998 and 15341)
09:28 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:30 Joubu           reza: it's either your connection, or the server is overloaded at the moment
09:30 Joubu           so, fix your connection or try again later
09:30 Joubu           (does not really help, I agree)
10:37 reza            it was the provider. the infrastructure fiber optic has problem here in Malaysia..
11:50 octo19          Mornin' folks. I installed Koha on Debian 8 with success. However, now when I access the IP address via Firefox to begin configuration (as described in the instructions), I see the default Apache website. Thoughts? Advice? Help? Thanks!
11:52 cait            octo19: maybe check google - opinons on how to deactivate the default side differ a bit :)
11:52 cait            but there has been a lot of discussion on the mailing list for that problem
11:53 octo19          Cool, thanks cait. What mailing list are you referring to?
11:54 cait            ah one of the koha mailing lists
11:54 cait            hm sec
11:54 octo19          Gotcha. Thanks!
11:54 octo19          k
11:56 cait            https://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2014-September/040796.html is an eample, but not the one i was looking for
11:59 cait            octo19: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.koha/38489
12:04 octo19          Sweet. Thank you!
12:22 tcohen          morning
12:23 tcohen          @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:23 huginn          tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 20.7°C (9:21 AM ART on March 07, 2016). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
12:46 tcohen          hi Joubu
12:46 Joubu           Hi tcohen
12:55 oleonard        Hi #koha
13:01 geek_cl         o/
13:29 francharb       good morning #koha
13:30 Joubu           Jacek, are you around?
13:30 Joubu           hi francharb
13:30 francharb       o/ Joubu
13:40 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15084 [QA Followup] - Fix new uses of GetCurrency <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59bef628b69ecea5edc8c0150fbddf9cf5cd5796>
14:19 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
14:20 * druthb        waves to mtompset
14:20 mtompset        Greetings, druthb.
14:22 magnuse         druthb! mtompset!
14:22 mtompset        Greetings, magnuse.
14:22 druthb          magnuse!
14:24 tcohen          hi mtompset
14:24 mtompset        Greetings, tcohen. I'm making progress on getting 15870 working. :)
14:25 mtompset        Down to 2 of 96 failures... just have to track those down. :)
14:25 * tcohen        noticed
14:25 tcohen          YAY!
14:29 mtompset        I think I need to verify all the possible values of hidden.
14:29 mtompset        From the mysql specs it could be -127 to 127
14:29 mtompset        but I thought we only use -7 to +7
14:30 mtompset        The two tests failing... 8.
14:30 Joubu           have to run, see you #koha
14:30 mtompset        Bye, Joubu
14:30 mtompset        Au revoir, Joubu. :)
14:33 khall           oleonard: just rebased bug 11360, please give it a look!
14:33 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11360 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Disable barcode field and submit button when a hold is found
14:51 mtompset        What does 'flagged' mean in the visibility settings?
15:14 oleonard        mtompset: I have never heard the answer to that question
15:15 mtompset        I'm hoping to figure that out... It must have been lost in the history pre-2013.
15:16 bag             morning
15:18 oleonard        I think we should not make drop-down menus when there are only two links. I would like to hear other opinions. See Bug 15990
15:18 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15990 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Needs Signoff , Moving record matching rules actions into a drop-down menu
15:19 cait            mtompset: hm there was some documentation about the hidden values in the older helpf files
15:19 cait            possibly on the wiki too
15:19 cait            a list
15:20 mtompset        bug 9894
15:20 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9894 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, CLOSED FIXED, 'hidden' value is hard to understand in frameworks
15:20 cait            some are unused but i think it 9 - -9 from memory
15:20 cait            ah yeah
15:20 mtompset        I found -8 to +8
15:20 mtompset        -8 is flagged.
15:20 cait            oleonard: i was thinking about that - it adds an additional click
15:20 mtompset        But I want to know what flagged is.
15:20 cait            so the drop downs are not always nice
15:20 cait            aaah
15:20 cait            no idea
15:21 mtompset        because -7 to +8 ... that makes sense... nice binary mapping.
15:22 jajm            fredericd, around ?
15:56 mtompset        cait: You were right!
15:57 mtompset        -9 to +9 though -9 and +9 are still no implemented.
15:57 mtompset        ^no^not^
16:30 tcohen          www/search_utf8.t is broken :-/
16:43 tcohen          mtompset: I think my tests covered the different options
16:43 mtompset        You missed -8
16:44 mtompset        but I'm trying to figure out where -8 is used.
16:44 mtompset        -8 = flagged is checked.
16:44 mtompset        You check flagged, and everything else can't be checked.
16:45 mtompset        I want to understand -8 before declaring something working.
16:46 tcohen          no one knows
16:46 tcohen          don't bother to spend time on it
16:46 tcohen          heh
16:46 tcohen          really
16:49 mtompset        Well, since it is a valid value, I'll need to tweak the code to include it, even though no one knows what it is for. :P
16:51 cait            i think we shoud lick it
16:51 cait            lol
16:51 cait            kick it
16:51 cait            because if there is no code whatsoever for it... i
16:52 cait            and time travelling git doesn't help
16:53 cait            it seems like a 'false promise' thing in the GUI
17:10 oleonard        Aw man I missed getting to file Bug 16000
17:10 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Duplicate a report from the New Reports button
17:10 oleonard        Bug 16001
17:10 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16001 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use standard message dialog when there are no cities to list
17:13 * oleonard      files 999 more bugs so he can get 17000
17:13 cait            :)
17:22 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15968: Unnecessary loop in C4::Templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9be221b14eee137f4143e4a2243eadfb03fcfbbc>
17:32 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13871: [QA Follow-up] Add $server for FID_SCREEN_MSG <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=617b72a54eb80fd7ea5e55be9484cf1dbf5e292f> / Bug 13871: [QA Follow-up] Adjust Patron Info Request <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b02aa7c4217ed75c42b95bd6af11a49472737144> / Bug 13871: [QA Follow-up] Adjust Patron Status Request <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh
17:37 circ-user-0s4Lt hi
17:37 circ-user-0s4Lt i want to add book cover to catalog when i edit on individual catalog
17:37 circ-user-0s4Lt but my defaul we can add cover photo to catalgo on edit
17:40 oleonard        circ-user-0s4Lt: Are you trying to use the local cover image feature? http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/uploadlocalimages.html
17:41 circ-user-0s4Lt No, i want to upload local image on editing catalog
17:41 circ-user-0s4Lt not from this upload
17:41 circ-user-0s4Lt on bywater demo i can add local cover on edit catalog
17:42 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15965: Select default value ('biblio') if needed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b7b9a453a9692b3ab71398952d3f582189f7f79> / Bug 15965: Koha to MARC mapping - table changes with selection of drop down menu <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b4dd20305808576d054ab9276220eee2e8bcf12> / Bug 5404: [QA Follow-up] Add test descriptions <http://git.koha-community.o
17:42 oleonard        circ-user-0s4Lt: How is it done in the bywater demo?
17:43 circ-user-0s4Lt on edit catalog i can add local cover
17:44 circ-user-0s4Lt i mean we can upload local cover for individual from edit catalog
17:44 oleonard        circ-user-0s4Lt: Can you please describe how you do it in the bywater demo?
17:45 bag             circ-user-0s4Lt: what verison of Koha is your local install on?
17:45 circ-user-0s4Lt latest
17:46 tcohen          #koha: kohadevbox has been updated because of a failure to build test::dbix::class (newer maintainer, version and, of course, deps)
17:52 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15961 - Use Font Awesome icons for confirmation of currency deletion <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b951f158cbda394402ebf3179f6c8b1278e899ea>
18:02 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14306: Remove call to GetMarcNotes from sendshelf <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf04868450b0137f20d61396ab0d80990c9dcf53> / Bug 14306: Changes for basket and detail templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01994e2c48ee15d750bdbce2dec87babb11dc8cb> / Bug 14306: Follow-up for URLs in 555$u <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=
18:09 reiveune        bye
18:12 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15941 - The template for cloning circulation and fine rules says "issuing rules" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=92544ea10d76c1a9f604c9c60ee33dc50e39d7fc>
18:14 oleonard        bag: Any idea what circ-user-0s4Lt was talking about?
18:14 bag             I think it was what you said - she needed to follow the manual
18:14 bag             she/he
18:21 * cait          waves
18:23 kidclamp        hi cait
18:25 cait            hi kidclamp
19:23 rangi           meanwhile in nz
19:23 rangi           https://twitter.com/davidfarrier/status/705640203600293888
19:29 mtompset        Is there a reason perlcritic -1 dislikes intersparsed POD?
19:30 rangi           yes
19:31 rangi           http://search.cpan.org/dist/Perl-Critic/lib/Perl/Critic/Policy/Documentation/RequirePodAtEnd.pm
19:32 mtompset        Ah, speed, and not forcing to follow code structure.
19:33 rangi           http://search.cpan.org/~thaljef/Perl-Critic/
19:33 rangi           is a good source for all your, why is it wanting this questions
19:33 mtompset        Thanks.
19:36 mtompset        Didn't we just recently remove the ReadOnly module?
19:38 cait            hm i thought so
19:39 mtompset        Perlcritic doesn't like constant pragma, because it doesn't interpolate.
19:42 mtompset        I guess is a perldoc and a const message are the only two all the way to level 1 perlcritic, I'll call it good enough.
19:42 mtompset        ^is^if^
19:51 oleonard        Bye #koha
19:51 cait            bye oleonard:)
20:02 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15735: Audio Alerts editor broken by use of of single quotes in editor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f30091414755728317cf34421f7709a939745881>
20:34 Francesca       @wunder wlg
20:34 huginn          Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on March 08, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
20:40 wizzyrea        hi Francesca
20:40 Francesca       hey wizzyrea
20:41 Francesca       hows it going
20:41 wizzyrea        ah it's going alright
20:42 Francesca       I'll be making a return sometime this week
20:42 Francesca       just have to survive the lectures first
20:43 Francesca       how is soren?
20:45 * Francesca     moves off to a lecture
20:45 wizzyrea        he's good :)
20:45 wizzyrea        pretty excited for the school fair
21:56 rangi           https://www.mapbox.com/blog/docbox/
21:59 kidclamp        rangi: I am leaving shortly but will be back in for a bit later if anything I said on elastic bug was crazy and you want a better explanation
22:00 cait            kidclamp++
22:04 kidclamp        :-)
22:04 rangi           nope all good
22:41 wizzyrea        hm I like that thing
22:45 pianohacker     wizzyrea: that thing?
22:47 wizzyrea        that mapbox thing
23:04 * Francesca     waves at pianohacker
23:04 pianohacker     hi Francesca
23:04 Francesca       hey pianohacker
23:04 Francesca       whatsup?
23:05 pianohacker     not too much, trying to improve plack performance
23:06 Francesca       cool
23:07 * Francesca     is stressing about uni work and work work
23:08 pianohacker     yeah, the combo is killer
23:08 Francesca       just started back for 2nd year
23:09 Francesca       and I feel kinda bad that I have less time for being at work
23:10 pianohacker     kind of inevitable
23:10 pianohacker     I worked about 10 hours a week during undergrad but only 4 during grad...
23:11 Francesca       mmmm
23:11 Francesca       I can do up to 10
23:12 Francesca       but then theres uni work
23:12 Francesca       anyways
23:12 Francesca       something will work out