Time Nick Message 20:26 liw joking aside, I'd love to do a tutorial, but since I am unsure if I can, I hope someone else can 20:26 eythian I taught many people 😉 20:25 cait sounds like there is a responsibility there :) 20:25 liw eythian, I taught you, you should teach the next generation :) 20:25 eythian I just wrote it all in a wiki page instead. 20:24 eythian Though, I probably could. 20:24 eythian liw: I'm getting out of practice. 20:23 cait :) 20:23 * liw looks at eythian and radiates a "eythian should give a Debian packaging tutorial at kohacon" wave into the aether 20:19 eythian So, on Sunday I'm going to the Anne Frank huis, currently reading the diary. It annoys me a bit how the edit deliberately foreshadows. 20:18 * rangi has to go to a creative commons advisory meeting .. bbl 20:15 liw rangi, I am suspecting you of being named Blaise 20:15 rangi eythian: yup :) 20:14 cait who is with me? :) 20:14 cait i am sure he was awesome 20:14 eythian rangi: and this is why I made everything automatic 🙂 20:14 ibeardslee he is 20:13 rangi the write up makes it sound much more awesome than it actually was 20:13 liw rangi, you LCA presentation about community seems to have been remarkably awesome 20:13 gmcharlt <--- liar 20:13 gmcharlt eh, I had no plans that day 20:12 rangi http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/25/openssl_bug_fix_headsup/ 20:12 rangi oh great 20:08 rangi for their own good as much as anything else 20:08 rangi they are well within their rights, it's only if they start distributing without the source .. or trying to pretend they are Koha (like some other clowns we know) that it is an issue. However I will be encouraging them to upstream 20:07 drojf you can ask them about their code then :P 20:07 rangi heh 20:07 drojf *an 20:07 drojf i got en email from turkey asking about confirmation for their presentation proposal too ;) 20:06 drojf there is a "not" too much 20:06 rangi hehe 20:05 drojf anyway i explicitly said it's my personal opinion that it seems uncommon for kohacon, and i'm not writing not on behalf of "the koha community" (turns out by sending a few list emails about kohacon made me look like some kind of kohacon official to others. *giggles*) 20:05 rangi what would be good if we are going to have tables, is to offer some free ones to say, creative commons greece, and FSF-Europe 20:04 rangi no worries :) 20:04 rangi personally if some of the proprietary vendors want to pay to have a stand where I will come and ask them loudly when they are releasing their code under a free software license 20:03 rangi most conferences, the vendor hall is how they afford to run it 20:02 rangi and i just go round collecting pens, and wearing my "Who owns your data?" tshirt 20:02 rangi everyone ive been to that isnt a kohacon, has a big exhibition hall full of vendors 20:02 drojf thats why i like kohacon then ;) 20:02 rangi its pretty normal for library conferences 20:01 drojf i don't go to library conferences often, the fair-like nature of german "librarian day" is weird to me. maybe it's normal to others 20:00 drojf i don't really see how having 5 tables of koha support providers showning koha would help a koha conference. but i wonder who else may have a table 19:59 rangi i dont mind the idea of booths per se, i just think they wont get anyone going to them 19:59 oleonard Bye everyone 19:57 rangi kohacon13 kinda did, but they were actually for another library conference, thats the only one i know of 19:57 drojf *that 19:57 drojf did we have tha tever? i guess you have been to all kohacons? 19:57 rangi nope 19:56 drojf rangi: did you have tables/booths at kohacon10? 19:53 pianohacker delicious salmiakki 19:53 pianohacker oleonard: the best part of the marseille hackfest year before last was the licorice 19:42 cait oleonard++ :) 19:40 eythian Sounds good. 19:40 wahanui i am probably a strange duck 19:40 eythian wahanui: how are you? 19:40 wahanui hello, eythian 19:40 eythian Hi 19:26 rangi darn 19:24 oleonard datatables.inc links to datTables.buttons.min.js and buttons.colVis.min.js, and so does columns_settings.inc... and both are usually included at the same time :( 19:20 barton ... especially since I'm sure it goes both ways. 19:19 barton yeah. we really should. 19:19 oleonard barton: We should correct that :P 19:19 * barton muses that as well as he knows oleonard, he can't remember seeing him drunk. 19:18 rangi :) 19:17 oleonard Drunk/er/ I guess 19:17 * oleonard becomes drunk with power 19:17 barton I think it's 14871. 19:17 rangi heh, i think most people are happy to go with whatever you decide, I know I am 19:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15883 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Upgrade jQuery from v1.7.2 in the staff client 19:16 oleonard I can't tell if the silence on Bug 15883 is a vote of confidence or apathy. 19:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14871 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Cannot search for patrons using second surname/firstname 19:13 oleonard Bug 14871? 19:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13822 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Patron autocomplete search is severly limited 19:13 oleonard Bug 13822? 19:12 rangi hmm first thing i do is always turn predictive search off, it's slow and beats the crap out of the server .. so nope havent run into it 19:12 barton ... does that ring a bell with anyone? 19:12 barton Hey, I ran into an issue that I *know* that I've seen before, and could have sworn there was a bug open for, but I can't find it for the life of me -- it has to do with predictive search on the circ screen for common patron surnames that contain spaces... e.g. one of our libraries is an academic library that has other libraries as patrons, and therefore has a zillion borrowers with the surname 'New York ...' the predictive search gives more r 19:10 rangi heh 19:09 oleonard But I will give away any licorice swag because I hate licorice. 19:09 oleonard Love that licorice/stationery/liquor swag! 19:06 rangi </rant> 19:06 rangi (we had sponsorship from a licorice factory, stationery warehouse, bars etc) 19:05 rangi (cos they already pay, every day, by using or working on Koha) 19:04 rangi if at all possible 19:04 rangi basically, the way i feel about Kohacon .. is we should get money from pretty much everyone except the libraries and developers 19:04 rangi and morning 19:03 rangi however, it turned out, everyone gave about the same anyway 19:03 rangi more money didnt get you more stuff 19:03 rangi fwiw kohacon10 was whatever you want, and you got your name in the programme 19:03 pianohacker hehehe 19:02 oleonard If I was clippy I'd pop in with "It looks like you're adding an onclick attribute to a link. Wouldn't you rather use progressive enhancement instead?" 18:37 cait drojf: someone has to be the paper clip 18:26 drojf later #koha 18:20 drojf i hope they don't delete my registration now… 18:15 drojf i sent them an email asking if they would consider removing the table option. i feel like the ms word paperclip, annoying everyone :P 17:39 oleonard Yes.... Awesome :| 17:35 drojf or exlibris 17:30 drojf it would be awesome to have liblime with a few tables in the foyer 17:29 drojf edinburgh was gbp 50 and 500 17:27 drojf reno was $75 and $500, no tables 17:24 cait ;) 17:24 wahanui wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org 17:24 cait wiki? 17:22 drojf i did not put it in my calendar. mhpf 17:22 drojf which one is your birthday? i think its not that :) 17:21 cait hm next irc meeting is the week after next i think? 17:21 wahanui scotland is pretty wicked too 17:21 drojf scotland 17:21 drojf i doubt scotlsnd got as much as the lowest option altogether 17:20 cait yeah that's true, it's missing an option for smaller amounts 17:18 drojf also the lowest price is now 10x higher. i think it started at 50€ 17:17 drojf hard to track it down, but 2012 was very different 17:17 drojf the call for sponsorship for 2013 is gone, the whole website for kohacon 2012 is gone 17:17 drojf not unusual for what? kohacons? or conferences in general? 17:16 cait java-- 17:15 cait but i think not unusual 17:14 cait it's a bit different 17:09 drojf not sure what other kohacons did 17:09 drojf i liked the "you can put your flyer on that table and that's it" aproach used in edinburgh 17:08 drojf oh we have sponsor tables now at kohacon? :| 17:03 reiveune bye 16:59 gaetan_B bye 16:15 pianohacker (extraordinarily delayed) magnuse! 16:14 * drojf hears 3-hour morning meetings grumble about oleonard in the distance 16:05 * oleonard grumbles about 3-hour morning meetings 16:05 oleonard Hi #koha 15:49 druthb :) 15:44 * cait agrees 15:43 drojf damn. you should have way more vacation time! 15:42 druthb drojf, if it wasn't *right* after OSCON, I just might, especially if I was also going to KohaCon. But that'd have me gone for basically a whole month, and I don't have *that* much vacation time. :P 15:40 kidclamp hello all 15:40 drojf druthb: so you're saying you want to come to berlin? :P 15:40 drojf hm true 15:38 cait :) 15:38 cait s 15:38 cait allowonshelfholds = ye 15:38 cait drojf: we already have magazin stuff 15:28 drojf does it include "magazin" stuff? someone asked me about that, but i forgot who it was 15:27 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 15:27 cait @later tell andreashm finally reviewed the holds spec document - and i think at least one of our libraries will love the options 15:25 drojf oh no. you miss all the cool insider things! like hackfests :) 15:25 druthb correct. 15:25 drojf you are probably not on koha-devel anymore? 15:24 drojf how could you not know? 15:24 drojf druthb! 15:23 druthb :) 15:22 cait berlin hackfest is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackfest_2016 15:21 cait berin hackfest? 15:21 cait druthb: there is ahackfest in berlin! :) 15:21 cait drojf: hm? 15:21 * druthb didn't know about the berlin hackfest, until *just now*. 15:21 drojf "This page has been accessed 272 times" 15:17 drojf nah, don't want to spam. it's not like we have a million of events going on. i think people are aware of it already 15:16 cait keep calm and remind people about the berlin hackfest instead? :) 15:16 drojf but i am not sending an email to ask for sending an email either :P 15:16 drojf that is what i am hoping for… 15:16 cait i think it just changed, it's probably in the works 15:15 cait let them send it :) 15:15 drojf i'm not going to send another mail now. people send their questions about it directly to me… 15:15 drojf yes but nothing on the list 15:14 cait drojf: thereis a news entry on the page now too 15:09 cait i guess that means: submit more! 14:49 drojf ah. no. deadline is march 7, confirmation of acceptance for talks is march 21 14:48 drojf that's all a little confusing 14:47 drojf now the website says 7th march 14:46 drojf looks like the deadline for kohacon presentations has been changed to 21 march, but it was not announced anywhere? 14:11 * magnuse wanders off 14:10 magnuse druthb: because it's fun? 14:04 druthb I'm still scratching my head as to *why* he'd use this shenanigans. You don't need it to access the data in the object--in this case, a hashref. He's using cmp_deeply on it, but you can do that on a blessed hashref, just fine. 14:02 cait yeah, not taking yourself too seriously is always a good thing :) 14:00 magnuse it's why i love perl - lots of humour :-) 13:57 druthb Like much of Perl, yes. 13:57 magnuse here be monsters? 13:56 jcamins And I still don't get it. 13:56 jcamins Oh, it's defined in an xs file. 13:50 jcamins I see it doing symbol table munging, but not actually cursing the object. 13:49 jcamins Nor do I see how it works. 13:49 druthb yeah, me too. When my teammate called it, he set it up as "curse". One other instance of it exists in our codebase, and they used "condemn" 13:48 jcamins I'm not sure why you would want to unbless a Perl object, but I greatly enjoy the fact that this module exists. 13:34 tcohen morning 13:23 druthb Now, I'm gonna have to quiz my teammate on why he'd *want* to do this. 13:22 magnuse lulz 13:22 druthb And it's a beautiful thing. If you don't like the damn() routine, you can pass in any alias you want when you use it: use Acme::Damn qw(curse); #or pass_judgement or send_to_hell or unbless or condemn... 13:19 magnuse why, bless me! 13:14 druthb A teammate used a new module in a test that I'd not seen before: Acme::Damn. 13:13 * druthb giggles. 12:11 cait oh kyle work... got it 11:53 cait hopefully not a meeting i missed? 11:53 * cait waves 11:13 khall hi! 11:13 clrh hi khall 11:13 clrh ok marcelr 11:09 marcelr clrh: he might be earlier than that 10:45 clrh (answer to my question: in 3 hours I think) 10:44 LibraryClaire hi drojf 10:39 drojf hi cait and all claires ;) 10:38 clrh I am wondering at what time Kyle begin to work 10:37 clrh hi #koha 10:30 LibraryClaire hi cait 10:28 cait morning LibraryClaire 10:09 LibraryClaire morning #koha 10:00 cait yeah pretty cool :) 09:42 magnuse yay 09:39 drojf a 09:39 drojf that's gonne be a big kohacon 09:39 drojf "We reached a milestone! 100 people have registered already!" (24 feb) 09:26 magnuse gotcha 09:26 liw I am easily misred 09:25 liw yeah, decision in April (at the earliest) 09:25 magnuse ah, i might have misread liw 09:25 drojf true. i thought it was about a decision in april, the hackfest is right before kohacon 09:24 magnuse liw: but berlin is in may, not april, i think 09:24 drojf morning liw. it's in berlin ;) please let me know when work life things are sorted out and we'll see if berlin works for you 09:17 liw drojf, I am afraid I can't commit to giving a Debian packaging tutorial for the time being (my work life being in a bit of turmoil), so I won't be proposing one for Kohacon; I might do one for the gathering in that German city I forget (Hamburg? Berlin? Friedrichshafen?), if I can do that in April 09:15 liw drojf, hi 09:13 drojf morning #koha 08:45 sophie_m hello magnuse and #koha 08:45 Francesca best summer i've ever had in welly 08:44 magnuse hiya cait and sophie_m 08:44 Francesca yup 08:44 magnuse Francesca: ooh, nice and summery still? 08:30 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 08:30 Francesca @wunder wlg 08:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Rising). 08:24 magnuse @wunder boo 08:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Tromso / Langnes, Norway is -4.0°C (9:00 AM CET on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Rising). 08:24 magnuse @wunder tos 08:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mechanicstown, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio is 1.7°C (3:10 AM EST on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Rising). 08:24 magnuse @wunder tso 08:07 gaetan_B hello 08:06 wahanui hi, alex_a 08:06 alex_a bonjour 07:55 reiveune hello 07:46 magnuse dcook++ 07:46 marcelr hi magnuse 07:45 magnuse hiya marcelr 07:44 marcelr hi #koha 07:40 * magnuse waves 06:02 rania_ ?? 06:02 rania_ anyone can help with error 500 in koha 06:01 rania allo any help 05:50 rania I am oblige to use NOTES 05:50 rania pleaseeeee helpppp 05:50 rania en fait ce message apparisse si je met un non latin text dans le champ NOTES 05:49 rania je dois fermer le browser et log-in encore une fois 05:49 rania quand je fais cataloguing et specialement additem un message d"erreur apparaisse error 500 apres enrigistrer 05:48 rania j"en ai un problem serious avec cataloguing KOHA 05:48 wahanui salut, rania 05:48 rania Hello 02:49 rangi heh 02:49 wizzyrea omg I have to turn off youtube now. I might die. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oguvSPdtHQ8