Time Nick Message
23:51 barton have a nice weekend anyway :-)
23:50 barton woops, wrong channel.
23:50 barton ok, I'm forsaking the land of Koha, and heading for the land of Beer. or something. Have a nice weekend!
23:08 mtompset Have a great weekend, #koha pianohacker_DND rocio
23:08 mtompset Can't type. :P
23:08 mtompset insane.
23:07 mtompset Try not to go insance, pianohacker_DND :)
22:56 cait night all :)
22:55 pianohacker_DND very
22:54 cait i think it says those are for local use... but it's confusing :)
22:54 pianohacker_DND which part? Because I think it's self-contradictory
22:53 cait the document linked
22:53 pianohacker_DND cait: what are you quoting?
22:49 cait and i'd prefer them over !
22:49 cait strictly speaking uppercase is not allowed.... but it works
22:48 pianohacker_DND "uppercase or lowercase, but not both"?
22:48 cait ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / : ; < = > ? { } _ ^ ` ~ [ ] \
22:48 cait Data element identifiers defined in MARC 21 may be any ASCII lowercase alphabetic or numeric character. In general, numeric identifiers are defined for data used to process the field, or coded data needed to interpret the field. Alphabetic identifiers are defined for the separate elements which constitute the data content of the field. The character 9 and the following ASCII graphic symbols are reserved for local definition as data element identifi
22:48 pianohacker_DND waaaaait
22:47 cait pianohacker_DND: http://www.loc.gov/marc/specifications/specrecstruc.html
22:44 mtompset cait: probably true.
22:44 cait i just found one that says lowercase alphabetic and numeric
22:44 cait i think it depends on the docs you read
22:44 pianohacker_DND undefined behavior may include but is not limited to a hand reaching out of the screen and flicking you on the nose
22:43 pianohacker_DND You put that in Rancor, you get undefined behavior
22:43 mtompset I wonder if $💩 is valid. ;)
22:42 * mtompset smirks.
22:41 cait yes
22:40 pianohacker_DND ...symbols?
22:36 mtompset "This schema supports XML markup of MARC21 records as specified in the MARC documentation (see www.loc.gov). It allows tags with alphabetics and subfield codes that are symbols, neither of which are as yet used in the MARC 21 communications formats, but are allowed by MARC 21 for local data."
22:36 norbertDD cait *help* my z39 search doesnt work :/ where i can find logs find the problem
22:35 mtompset http://www.loc.gov/standards/marcxml/schema/MARC21slim.xsd
22:32 pianohacker_DND but ISO 2709 is, as far as I know, the only thing that limits valid tag/subfield codes, and it just says alphanumeric
22:32 pianohacker_DND entirely possible
22:30 mtompset I think this might be a MARCXML extension.
22:29 huginn pianohacker_DND: unknown tag 01e
22:29 pianohacker_DND @marc 01e
22:29 pianohacker_DND it's in the framework, at least
22:29 mtompset 01e?! Where's the definition?
22:28 pianohacker_DND marc--
22:28 mtompset What?!
22:27 pianohacker_DND and given that it's MARC, I didn't feell safe not supporting that in RAncor
22:27 pianohacker_DND It's really rare, but there is 01e
22:27 pianohacker_DND mtompset, yes, unfortunately.
22:26 mtompset Are you sure, pianohacker_DND?
22:26 mtompset I thought only subfields could do that.
22:26 mtompset MARC fields can contain letters?
22:23 pianohacker_DND s/field/tag numbers/
22:20 * pianohacker_DND wishes that MARC fields couldn't contain a-z
22:14 cait you too :)
22:14 kidclamp have a good weekend cait!
22:14 kidclamp ðŸº
22:14 kidclamp indeed! ðŸ»
22:13 cait time for a weekend? :)
22:13 cait maybe try with fresh eyes on monday?
22:12 kidclamp :-)
22:12 kidclamp me too, I lost far too mich time debugging my code before figuringout (or convincing myself) that the Barcodes module is the problem
22:11 cait i think i can't follow - it's a bit too late here
22:10 kidclamp and it does it's ownfetch to find the highest value or it only builds off of what is passed
22:10 cait it doesn't seem to show up in context of Seirals or acq
22:09 kidclamp but it doesn't use next_value, it has it's own increment function
22:09 cait hm there is a C4:Barcodes in additem.pl
22:09 kidclamp you can see the queries in ValueBuilder.pm and Barcodes::annual.pm don't match
22:08 kidclamp it's only when you have more then one matchign value in the db that they are broken
22:08 kidclamp which says it should use Barcodes.pm
22:08 kidclamp I don't think anything actually uses them, the plugins use ValueBuilder.pm
22:08 cait pretty annoying
22:08 cait if you look at bugzilla
22:07 cait and fixed
22:07 cait we have broken them a couple of times already
22:07 kidclamp looks like the tests don't actually write to the db
22:05 cait is it only broken in acq or also in cataloguing?
22:05 cait tests seem ok still perl t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t
22:04 cait there are tests for the module i think
22:04 cait hm weird
22:04 kidclamp same for hbyymmdd
22:04 kidclamp at least for annual, the sql to get the max does a MAX and a GROUP BY and unpairs the correct values
22:04 cait hmm
22:03 kidclamp it's broken cait
21:58 tcohen hm, barcode generators are good candidates for the plugin system
21:50 cait catalog the first item manually and then if it does not work... it's broken :)
21:50 cait you usually need at least one fitting barcode for it to work in your database
21:49 cait kidclamp: and should not be broken...
21:49 cait kidclamp: hm it's not dead
21:14 tcohen depend
21:14 * tcohen means bugs
21:14 * tcohen doesn't like patches that are too general
21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
21:11 mtompset If I improved the perlcritic level of test, should I put the patch on bug 6679, or create a new bug, and put a depends on?
21:10 mtompset Greetings, tcohen
20:50 mtompset PDF stuff in Koha is rather poor at this time. :)
20:50 kidclamp so it's just broken then :-)
20:49 mtompset Not last time I checked, but I could be mis-remembering. :)
20:49 kidclamp_dnd anyone know, is C4 barcodes just dead code?
20:03 oleonard Bye #koha
20:03 mtompset Wow. My connection is flaky!
19:41 mtompset makes code more readable and get higher level of perlcritic. ;)
19:40 mtompset if there is a use English;
19:40 mtompset $EVAL_ERROR
19:40 mtompset instead of $@ (for example)
19:40 mtompset oleonard: Just checking if I needed to change PerlDependencies or not, in case it was a newer version of perl. :)
19:39 oleonard ?
19:33 mtompset When did English become a core perl module?
19:15 tcohen #koha: have a nice weekend everone
18:59 zsolt thank you
18:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
18:56 oleonard That might be possible if Bug 10486 can be made to work, but it's not possible now.
18:54 zsolt If somebody searching in a koha library (not mine) to get results from my koha library too?
18:52 magnuse hope you feel better soon, Joubu!
18:52 oleonard zsolt: What do you mean by connect?
18:42 Joubu Have a great week-end #koha!
18:41 Joubu sorry for the lag, but big cold, I not really around...
18:41 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
18:41 Joubu @later tell pianohacker please do! :)
18:34 zsolt Hi, is there an option to connect my library to other libraries<
18:13 oleonard Perhaps we should throw in, "Is it your true desire to..." or "Have you really thought through your decision to..."
18:12 oleonard "Are you sure you want..." 87 matches. "Are you sure you wish..." 3 matches.
17:31 oleonard pref.
17:31 oleonard Oh, only if I set the SMSSendDriver preg.
17:31 oleonard 'Go to the admin page, the "Additional parameters" area should now have the link "SMS cellular providers"'
17:05 * oleonard doesn't want to see what is in pianohacker_DND's bug bag.
17:02 gaetan_B bye
16:56 cait time for weekend - bye all :)
16:54 pianohacker_DND sorry, big red bug bag button
16:54 pianohacker_DND that's my big red bag button is for
16:53 pianohacker_DND yar yar
16:53 cait just don't push if you qa ok? :)
16:53 pianohacker_DND cait: I was gonna QA it to keep things movin, since I know you're busy atm
16:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Additional fields for baskets
16:52 pianohacker_DND cait: bug 15774 does bring that in; centralized admin screen, factoring out of code, etc etc; thus why Joubu asked for a rebase
16:48 cait with these features
16:48 cait y
16:48 cait because we should aim for some consistenc
16:48 cait I think i tmight even be good
16:48 pianohacker_DND coolio macaroni
16:47 cait a similar feature, but not the same
16:47 pianohacker_DND that one
16:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Additional fields for baskets
16:47 pianohacker_DND bug 15774
16:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15744 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED INVALID, GlobalSys: UsageStatsLibraryType German Text 2x "Firmenbibliothek"
16:47 pianohacker_DND cait: because of bug 15744
16:47 cait so why are you asking? :)
16:47 cait hm you haven't written or signed off
16:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11844 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Additional fields for order lines
16:46 pianohacker_DND Joubu: any reason I shouldn't QA bug 11844?
16:33 Joubu bag: ok great to hear that :)
16:33 mtompset Wow.
16:33 medo maybe 400k borrowers
16:32 bag yes Joubu
16:32 medo circ done on the test? probably not much. if i can import with the history, maybe 1.5M circs a year
16:32 Joubu bag, khall: do you have a push session planned soon?
16:31 mtompset You might be able to get your 2M on a 64GB.... but I'd be worried about running out of diskspace for circulation.
16:30 mtompset But I've seen item entries a lot longer than 1K.
16:28 mtompset Because lots of circulation needs more drive space.
16:28 mtompset A base install, you get 5GB drive... 2M items @ 1K each = 2GB * 6 (because Zebra is a pig, and mysql [3[zeb]+2[mysql]+1[data itself]]) = 12GB. -- Okay, what about circulation numbers?
16:25 medo thanks. i'm curious as to what other people are using - is there anything published on server specs for library/collection size?
16:23 mtompset Though, like I said more is always good.
16:21 mtompset 256GB drive space (I'm totally guessing at this), 4GB Ram.
16:21 medo eventually. i'd probably start much smaller, but i'd rather only set it up once
16:21 medo but yes, i don't know much about setting up the vm, so i'm looking for some good numbers to give our sysadmin
16:20 mtompset Oh, testing THAT size....
16:20 mtompset Okay, for tinkering around you can probably get away with 32GB (it's a nice round number) drive, and at least 1GB RAM.
16:20 medo but i would like to eventually test it with our full collection, 650k bibs, 2M items. maybe a few hundred clients
16:20 medo haha no, definitely not production
16:19 mtompset Because more is always good. :)
16:19 mtompset Are you going to be lazy and call it production after you finish doing this? :)
16:19 mtompset How big is your test data?
16:18 mtompset medo: allocate what? disk space? memory?
16:18 medo i'm setting up a vm to try it out on, and not sure how much to allocate
16:18 medo hi all - i'm looking for some guidance on server specs for koha. the only thing i've seen so far is the requirements on the download page https://koha-community.org/download-koha/
16:17 mtompset francharb: Sorry, I was looking in another window. Your play on words was just fine. :)
16:01 reiveune bye
16:01 francharb (^L^)
15:55 Joubu francharb: try adding some more smileys ;)
15:51 francharb :)
15:51 francharb I just hope my broken english is not innapropriate
15:50 francharb ;)
15:50 francharb Then we could say for any question, have you checked Cait?
15:50 francharb ;)
15:50 francharb Let's make a FAQ called "Cait"
15:41 druthb :P
15:41 cait hmpf
15:41 * druthb agrees with Brooke--cait is always right. :)
15:39 cait but as single person with a small apartment that's not really an option at the moment :)
15:39 gmcharlt cait++
15:39 cait :)
15:39 cait oleonard: but i like cats ):
15:32 gmcharlt :)
15:32 oleonard Brooke: She can't be *that* closely related to gmcharlt, she doesn't have any cats.
15:30 Brooke I suspect a close shared common ancestor with Galen. >.> <.<
15:30 cait that would amke me really scary... thankfully it#s totally not true
15:29 Brooke Cait is always right, never wrong.
15:29 cait i ran into the same.... and just discovered the library turned it back on *sigh*
15:29 cait np
15:29 francharb Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:28 francharb but for whatever reason, haven't tried this one
15:28 * cait nods
15:28 francharb I tried the other one (stemming, etc)
15:28 francharb cait, you nailed it! It was autotruncate
15:28 cait hm and also stemming
15:25 cait try to turn off autotruncate
15:25 cait i think some of the prefs don't work well
15:25 cait hm
15:25 francharb marc21
15:25 francharb yes cait
15:25 francharb I checked the rank option in the zebra configuration file
15:25 wahanui i guess marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html
15:25 cait marc21?
15:24 francharb I enable the queryweighfield syspref
15:24 francharb but the thing is, on my installations, records are always ordered by biblionumber when I order by relevance
15:23 francharb I read this too
15:23 cait hm i sometimes refer to this, but not sure how well it covers the topic http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/11/27/a-little-bit-about-relevance-in-koha/
15:23 francharb I read about it on the mailing list and zebra documentation
15:23 francharb I kno
15:23 francharb ahah
15:22 cait ew
15:22 francharb does relevance ranking works in 3.20?
15:22 cait and hi :)
15:22 francharb ah thanks
15:22 francharb cait, what up?
15:21 francharb oleonard, me too!
15:21 cait francharb: what was your question?
15:21 mtompset "What do Librarians Know about Barbecue?" - that's a nice description. :)
15:21 * oleonard has now forgotten what he was working on
15:20 Brooke ^^^^^^ total #fail academics. 1 joint in the great commonwealth of virginia? THIS CANNOT STAND.
15:20 Brooke http://www.lib.ua.edu/aserl-bbq/
15:19 Brooke I kin listen to that raght thar while lookin' over mah ASERL BBQ guide
15:19 Brooke yee haw!
15:19 mtompset Brooke: You triggered a musical flashback. :) https://youtu.be/xtolv9kM1qk
15:18 francharb I was reading emails and keep asking myself, why is there J everywhere
15:18 Brooke ðŸˆ
15:18 francharb I realised lately that 'J' was the windows emoji for :)
15:17 francharb emojs as tags! sounds fun!!
15:16 * Brooke misses her super sekrit boyfriend Beau
15:15 mtompset Strangely, it let me set it, though it displays it as 6 characters instead of 3 when entering it.
15:14 Brooke thought you'd see the light :P
15:14 mtompset No, it's okay.
15:13 Brooke and I mean FILTHY
15:13 Brooke if you wanna test unicode compliance I could try and fish up some tasty filthy CKJ data for you
15:13 Brooke hehehe
15:12 mtompset For testing unicode compliance, of course. :)
15:12 mtompset druthb: Thanks for the reminder. I want to test if I could set my password to 💩💩💩
15:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15794 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Allow the use of emojis as tags on records
15:11 oleonard francharb: No, I'm just obsessed with Bug 15794
15:11 francharb ;)
15:11 francharb that's what druthb and me make you think about, an emoji of a pile of poo? oleonard
15:11 druthb see, oleonard, you may be right. I'm all about adding Unicode compliance *everywhere*.
15:10 Brooke as long as you felt guilty of your own initiative, you'll keep contributing to project ;P
15:10 francharb lol
15:10 francharb ahah
15:10 francharb Now I feel bad connecting just to ask my question
15:10 oleonard I just feel like if maybe francharb and druthb were still around I would be able to tag a book in the OPAC with an emoji of a pile of poo and it would work.
15:09 druthb Aw!
15:08 oleonard Same for you druthb
15:08 francharb :)
15:08 oleonard Without you, that is.
15:08 oleonard francharb: if you came to #koha curious to see how we're doing without, the answer is terrible.
15:07 Brooke No but they have a suspicious .js 22meg package ;)
15:06 francharb :)
15:06 oleonard I'm doing well francharb, thanks
15:06 mtompset Were they made with a sugar substitute and less than 1 net carb? ;)
15:06 Brooke howdy mtompset
15:05 mtompset Greetings, druthb Brooke
15:05 * Brooke passes out <3 cookies.
15:05 francharb :)
15:05 * druthb hugs francharb.
15:05 * francharb hugs druthb
15:05 * druthb hugs Brooke
15:04 * Brooke tackles Ruth
15:04 * francharb hugs Brooke
15:04 mtompset oleonard: Thanks for that link.
15:04 * Brooke hugs francharb
15:04 francharb o/ mtompset
15:04 mtompset Greetings, francharb oleonard
15:04 francharb Hi oleonard, pretty well. You?
15:03 oleonard Hi francharb, how's it going?
15:03 francharb Long time no see
15:03 francharb Hi Koha!
15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12561 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Omnibus: Deprecate non-XSLT detail and result views
15:01 oleonard Bug 12561
15:01 mtompset I'm thinking the opac/opac-detail template needs a serious refactor to clean it up.
14:59 mtompset And that will be confusing for a tester.
14:59 mtompset because the problem is the UI uses those template variable to display values which should be filtered, but aren't, because the $dat isn't the same kind of thing.
14:57 tcohen but we need the filter pushed first
14:57 tcohen once it works, we'll figure how to best integrate it on the pipe
14:57 tcohen i'd recommend that you focus on the filter, for MARC::Record objects
14:56 mtompset Keep the ShouldHideMarc function?
14:56 mtompset How do you recommend filtering that?
14:56 mtompset It isn't MARC at all.
14:56 mtompset The issue is that the $dat is a hash of the database tables.
14:56 mtompset I get that you want to use filters... I think I might have something for the GetMarcBiblio call at the top.
14:55 mtompset Okay, if you look at the first splinter review on the bug and click over the opac-detail.pl
14:54 tcohen (i don't, but lets try :-D)
14:54 tcohen shoot
14:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11592 major, P3, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility
14:54 mtompset Do you have a little time to discuss filters, hashes, and bug 11592?
14:53 tcohen hi mtompset
14:52 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 15 minutes and 29 seconds ago: <tcohen> @later tell wizzyrea maybe I made a mistake creating the kohadevbox:ansible branch, but I needed it for my release manager duties, and for properly testing the plack integration into packages, without breaking the one everyone was already using
14:52 mtompset @seen tcohen
14:52 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
14:37 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:37 tcohen @later tell wizzyrea maybe I made a mistake creating the kohadevbox:ansible branch, but I needed it for my release manager duties, and for properly testing the plack integration into packages, without breaking the one everyone was already using
14:13 cait and ... the day after monday
14:13 cait nah thursday was yesterday
14:10 oleonard So... It's not Friday in Germany, it's Thursday again? Bummer.
14:00 cait 2 thursdays... in german now :)
14:00 cait we managed for the secnd time to get the week days wrong int the calendar widget :)
13:57 cait heh
13:56 * cait nos has to find "Tu" in the po files... wish me luck
13:56 oleonard Pretty soon all tables in Koha will look like this: http://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/uploads/2006/02/6a0120a85dcdae970b0120a86d6311970b-pi.png
13:55 cait a ood thought, but i have my doubts
13:55 cait hehe
13:55 oleonard Tell them they have to shell out money for column configuration on that page :P
13:54 cait like the filters
13:54 cait and have the extra features
13:54 kidclamp yeah, that's a bugger
13:52 cait I thin i will declare it too error-prone - worried this is going to break with updates etc because we can't address the columns
13:51 cait yes
13:51 kidclamp trying to hide 'Current location' cait?
13:48 cait hm not getting this to work
13:44 cait not there yet.
13:44 cait growls
13:40 kidclamp good idea cait, it's a nice intro patch just adding ids
13:40 cait trying to adapt your sample, unsuccessful so far... will continue
13:40 kidclamp oleonard:yeah sometimes I wish there were two userjs prefs: one before the koha scripts so you can stop or override them if you want, and one after so you can build on them
13:39 cait kidclamp: maybe something for hackfest :)
13:39 cait if i had the time i would id all the things :)
13:39 oleonard The more we load JS on top of things the more difficult it is for the end-user to customize.
13:39 tcohen cait++ # volunteering
13:38 cait write a patch to give ids to everything? ;)
13:37 kidclamp I don't like counting columns, but what can you do
13:36 tcohen khall: around?
13:36 kidclamp }
13:36 kidclamp display: none;
13:36 kidclamp #issues-table thead th:nth-child(12), #issues-table tbody td:nth-child(12) {
13:36 tcohen hi cait :-D
13:36 kidclamp cait: yeah, it can be super annoying, we used css to help hide the checkin column on the issues table, that might mork, you just have to point to the right column number
13:36 * cait waves
13:36 LibraryClaire hi tcohen
13:36 tcohen hi oleonard
13:35 oleonard Hi tcohen
13:35 tcohen morning!
13:35 cait ... headache :)
13:35 cait and with activate filters... it's adds another first column
13:34 cait the problem is, that we have no identifieres
13:34 cait thx, i will tkae a look at that!
13:33 cait kidclamp: wow
13:33 kidclamp cait: this may help - http://bywatersolutions.com/2014/11/07/koha-patron-checkouts-table/
13:30 cait a lot of the columns are optional
13:29 cait but probably hard
13:29 cait it would b really nice to have the new columns config for th items table
13:29 cait yeah it hink it's the datatable making it hard
13:28 oleonard I think its a conflict with the table structure which is generated by DataTables
13:26 wahanui cait: I forgot which page
13:26 cait wahanui: forget which page
13:25 cait hm and once you activate the filters it gets a bit messy
13:23 cait $(".items_table td:eq(1)").hide(); seems to hide half of it, but the same for th doesn't work?
13:21 cait detail page in staff for a record with items
13:21 wahanui Which page is wrong?
13:21 oleonard Which page?
13:21 cait struggling a bit because my firebug stopped working
13:17 cait ok, they want to hide current location - because location shows under home library
13:14 cait sec, tryin got see what i tried last time
13:11 oleonard Sure
13:10 cait we have librareis with only one branch requesting that we hide one of the library columns in the staff item table... but i failed to do that. now the next asked for it... do you have a moment?
13:09 cait i had a question for you
13:09 cait hi oleonard :)
12:52 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
12:50 oleonard Hi #koha
11:11 kivilahtio the internals can be replaced with DBI :)
11:11 kivilahtio Koha::Object might get a speedup then
11:10 kivilahtio Joubu: I just cant help but wonder what happens to all the batch operations in Koha when everything is under Koha::Object
11:10 kivilahtio petter: its ok, I am taking care of a baby :)
11:08 petter olli: sorry, got stuck in discussion, brb
11:04 LibraryClaire morning #koha
10:58 kivilahtio Joubu: but it is good for you
10:58 kivilahtio Joubu: too bad
10:58 Joubu I am tracking origin/master, nothing else
10:58 kivilahtio Joubu: get amazed by our REST API and PageObject tests ;)
10:58 kivilahtio you can clone our KohaSuomi repo if you want :)
10:57 kivilahtio Joubu: too much work to exract the feature, it wont merge to master anyway
10:57 kivilahtio Joubu: nope
10:57 Joubu submit on bugzilla instead
10:57 kivilahtio Joubu: and drive NYTProf on them
10:56 kivilahtio Joubu: you can super easily just choose from the script if you want to run in Koha:Object or DBI mode
10:56 Joubu DBIx::Class > DBI it's expected
10:56 Joubu ok so it makes sense...
10:56 kivilahtio Joubu: I will tell you which cronjob it is
10:56 kivilahtio Joubu: I am pushing new code to our GutHub today
10:56 kivilahtio Joubu: Koha::Object vs DBI
10:56 Joubu kivilahtio: so you have compared Koha::Object vs DBIx::Class vs DBI
10:55 Joubu really know what?
10:54 wahanui kivilahtio: i'm not following you...
10:54 kivilahtio wahanui: I dont think anoybody really know
10:54 wahanui i think Koha::Object is way underdocumented, you should explain its purpose and how it should be used in the perldoc, otherwise no one else can meaningfully use it.
10:54 kivilahtio Joubu: Koha::Object
10:53 Joubu kivilahtio: Koha::Objects or DBIx::Class? ...
10:43 kivilahtio petter: how are you doing?
10:43 kivilahtio petter: http://renki.pohjoiskarjala.net:8092/oplib-label-editor.mp4
10:42 kivilahtio petter: but you are builidng cool stuff, like we
10:42 kivilahtio I hope there is something wrong with our Koha::object configuration :)
10:42 kivilahtio I have a Koha burnout
10:42 kivilahtio for the shole database of 1.6 million bibs
10:41 kivilahtio Extracting marc-fields to specific database columns took 6-7 times longer using Koha::Object than DBI
10:41 kivilahtio I am not so sure
10:40 kivilahtio petter: are you coming to KohaCon?
10:39 huginn 04Bug 15126: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , RESTÂ API: Use newer version of Swagger2
10:39 kivilahtio https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15126
10:39 wahanui i already had it that way, kivilahtio.
10:39 kivilahtio petter: the spec is here
10:37 drojf have a nice weekend #koha
10:37 kivilahtio it'' cool!
10:37 kivilahtio petter: https://renki.vaarakirjastot.fi/api/v1/doc/#/
10:36 kivilahtio we made a suggested pattern for organizing the Swagger2-spec
10:36 kivilahtio petter: we totally overhauled our Swagger2-driven Mojolicious REST API
10:36 kivilahtio petter: we are cooking a lot of stuff!
10:36 kivilahtio petter: possibly
10:32 petter hey olli! Longest time!
10:32 magnuse yeah, time flies
10:31 petter hei magnus!
10:25 kivilahtio long time no wave magnuse
10:25 * magnuse waves to petter and kivilahtio
10:07 kivilahtio when is Koha migrating to that?
10:07 kivilahtio wow I notice we have a MARC::Moose::Record module in cpan
09:07 Francesca hi
08:56 drojf [off] magnuse: sadly that fits in perfectly with my experience with hospital libraries so far
08:53 magnuse kia ora cait!
08:53 magnuse drojf: librarian at a hospital
08:50 drojf magnuse: scary. what does she do?
08:47 wahanui okay, magnuse.
08:47 magnuse my wife is also on xp at her work
08:46 magnuse woohoo
08:45 drojf berlin administration not only failed to move on from windows XP in time, they also have an estimate of 26000 computers with unsupported versions of IE as of today. berlin is awesome.
08:42 drojf :)
08:41 magnuse mohahaha
08:37 drojf damn. norwegians, always one step ahead
08:35 magnuse i have been to a catmandu workshop in hamburg (swib) but would probably not mind another one
08:35 magnuse hiya marcelr
08:31 drojf need to send marc a spam email too, he is not too far away ;)
08:31 huginn drojf: mveron was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 2 days, 22 hours, 6 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: * mveron waves
08:31 drojf @seen mveron
08:30 * drojf lures magnuse
08:30 marcelr hi magnuse
08:30 drojf magnuse won't be able to resist a catmandu workshop at some point
08:30 * magnuse is closer to berlin than to marseille
08:29 marcelr :)
08:29 drojf but compared to the rest of the koha community, you are pretty close too :)
08:28 drojf and well, i can walk there, it's my office :D
08:28 marcelr ok
08:28 drojf johann is closest. he is doing the catmandu workshop. from berlin state library ;)
08:27 marcelr cait is the closest
08:27 drojf cait is coming. more have not dared to say so yet
08:27 marcelr yes it should ;)
08:27 drojf oh marcelr, you should of course also come to berlin ;)
08:26 drojf but it looks like it may be a big kohacon
08:26 marcelr hi gaetan_B
08:25 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B
08:25 gaetan_B hello
08:25 drojf i don't
08:25 marcelr do we also know how many are on the hackfest?
08:24 drojf from the kohacon website
08:24 drojf "We reached a milestone! 70 people have registered already! on 12 Feb 2016"
08:23 drojf we should have them more often ;)
08:22 marcelr i would not like to miss europe kohacons
08:22 drojf cool!
08:21 marcelr yes that is the plan at least
08:21 drojf marcelr: are you going to kohacon?
08:21 marcelr hi drojf
08:20 drojf hi marcelr
08:18 marcelr hi #koha
08:16 magnuse starting ti think about it...
08:16 drojf so you are doing your own homebrew marseille?
08:15 magnuse and i can probably rustle up 10-20 types of french cheese in the local shops
08:15 magnuse on the other hand, i found a norwegian online store that sells those peanut butter chocolates that bag usually brings with him
08:13 magnuse matts: no, not really :-)
08:13 magnuse drojf: yeah, if only! ;-)
08:12 matts you call -1°C spring ? :)
08:12 matts hi !
08:04 drojf magnuse: if only there were alternatives to bridge the gap until october ;)
08:04 wahanui hello, alex_a
08:04 alex_a bonjour
08:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
08:02 magnuse @wunder boo
08:02 magnuse spring without marseille - it's starting to feel like something is missing...
08:00 sophie_m hi #koha
07:59 sophie_m hello magnuse
07:59 magnuse bonjour sophie_m
07:59 magnuse moin drojf
07:57 drojf hei magnuse
07:53 * magnuse waves
07:52 wahanui niihau, reiveune
07:52 reiveune hello
07:48 Mali_ reply
07:35 Mali_ Hello to all i ahve a question about koha, Can we use koha as inventry system and how to change it
07:28 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 6.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
07:28 drojf @wunder marseille, france
07:28 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 12.0°C (9:20 AM EET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
07:28 drojf @wunder thessaloniki, greece
07:27 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Largo di Torre Argentina, Roma, Italy is 8.6°C (8:21 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
07:27 drojf @wunder rome, italy
07:27 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
07:27 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:05 drojf morning #koha
03:28 Oak ignore wahanui, it's a bot.
03:27 wahanui the issue here is that there are some advanced searches that don't work without query parser, but show up anyway (which strikes me as bad)
03:27 sjamso What is the issue here
03:27 sjamso koha page says.. Welcome to the Koha web installer. But I am not able to login
03:15 sjamso Actualling I am suppose to install through web installer. That didnt work. The url it shows is http://library.rim.edu.in:8080/cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl
03:12 wizzyrea I'm sorry I have to run away now.
03:11 wizzyrea through the web installer?
03:11 wizzyrea have you already installed Koha?
03:11 sjamso username and password filed getting blank
03:11 wizzyrea that sounds like the installer.
03:11 sjamso It does not give any errors too.
03:10 Oak :)
03:10 wizzyrea hi Oak :)
03:10 Oak Hello wizzyrea !
03:10 sjamso I tried with koha_myinstancename with the password in koha-conf.xml file.. Still not working
03:10 Oak yup
03:10 wizzyrea that really ought to work, there isn't a reason that it wouldn't
03:10 Oak does is give an error message?
03:08 sjamso ya.. I got only one instance
03:08 sjamso I am using username and password in koha-conf.xml file
03:07 wizzyrea and you only have the one instance?
03:07 sjamso ya
03:07 wizzyrea and the password in the koha-conf file?
03:07 wizzyrea and you are using user koha_instance
03:07 sjamso ya.. I see that but cannot loogin with the username and password
03:06 wizzyrea do you see the login box?
03:06 wizzyrea how can you not login?
03:06 sjamso I tried that also but I was not able to login. So I change the password in the file and tried but still no luck
03:06 wizzyrea ^
03:04 Oak I think you were supposed to log in using that username password in the xml file, and then create a new user in Koha, then grant that user super librarian access.
03:02 sjamso How do I change default username and password for koha. I installed koha but I am not able to login. I did chage the password in koha-conf.xml file though
02:56 * Oak waves