Time Nick Message 02:56 * Oak waves 03:02 sjamso How do I change default username and password for koha. I installed koha but I am not able to login. I did chage the password in koha-conf.xml file though 03:04 Oak I think you were supposed to log in using that username password in the xml file, and then create a new user in Koha, then grant that user super librarian access. 03:06 wizzyrea ^ 03:06 sjamso I tried that also but I was not able to login. So I change the password in the file and tried but still no luck 03:06 wizzyrea how can you not login? 03:06 wizzyrea do you see the login box? 03:07 sjamso ya.. I see that but cannot loogin with the username and password 03:07 wizzyrea and you are using user koha_instance 03:07 wizzyrea and the password in the koha-conf file? 03:07 sjamso ya 03:07 wizzyrea and you only have the one instance? 03:08 sjamso I am using username and password in koha-conf.xml file 03:08 sjamso ya.. I got only one instance 03:10 Oak does is give an error message? 03:10 wizzyrea that really ought to work, there isn't a reason that it wouldn't 03:10 Oak yup 03:10 sjamso I tried with koha_myinstancename with the password in koha-conf.xml file.. Still not working 03:10 Oak Hello wizzyrea ! 03:10 wizzyrea hi Oak :) 03:10 Oak :) 03:11 sjamso It does not give any errors too. 03:11 wizzyrea that sounds like the installer. 03:11 sjamso username and password filed getting blank 03:11 wizzyrea have you already installed Koha? 03:11 wizzyrea through the web installer? 03:12 wizzyrea I'm sorry I have to run away now. 03:15 sjamso Actualling I am suppose to install through web installer. That didnt work. The url it shows is http://library.rim.edu.in:8080/cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl 03:27 sjamso koha page says.. Welcome to the Koha web installer. But I am not able to login 03:27 sjamso What is the issue here 03:27 wahanui the issue here is that there are some advanced searches that don't work without query parser, but show up anyway (which strikes me as bad) 03:28 Oak ignore wahanui, it's a bot. 07:05 drojf morning #koha 07:27 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 07:27 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 07:27 drojf @wunder rome, italy 07:27 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Largo di Torre Argentina, Roma, Italy is 8.6°C (8:21 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 07:28 drojf @wunder thessaloniki, greece 07:28 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 12.0°C (9:20 AM EET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 07:28 drojf @wunder marseille, france 07:28 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 6.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). 07:35 Mali_ Hello to all i ahve a question about koha, Can we use koha as inventry system and how to change it 07:48 Mali_ reply 07:52 reiveune hello 07:52 wahanui niihau, reiveune 07:53 * magnuse waves 07:57 drojf hei magnuse 07:59 magnuse moin drojf 07:59 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 07:59 sophie_m hello magnuse 08:00 sophie_m hi #koha 08:02 magnuse spring without marseille - it's starting to feel like something is missing... 08:02 magnuse @wunder boo 08:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 19, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 08:04 alex_a bonjour 08:04 wahanui hello, alex_a 08:04 drojf magnuse: if only there were alternatives to bridge the gap until october ;) 08:12 matts hi ! 08:12 matts you call -1°C spring ? :) 08:13 magnuse drojf: yeah, if only! ;-) 08:13 magnuse matts: no, not really :-) 08:15 magnuse on the other hand, i found a norwegian online store that sells those peanut butter chocolates that bag usually brings with him 08:15 magnuse and i can probably rustle up 10-20 types of french cheese in the local shops 08:16 drojf so you are doing your own homebrew marseille? 08:16 magnuse starting ti think about it... 08:18 marcelr hi #koha 08:20 drojf hi marcelr 08:21 marcelr hi drojf 08:21 drojf marcelr: are you going to kohacon? 08:21 marcelr yes that is the plan at least 08:22 drojf cool! 08:22 marcelr i would not like to miss europe kohacons 08:23 drojf we should have them more often ;) 08:24 drojf "We reached a milestone! 70 people have registered already! on 12 Feb 2016" 08:24 drojf from the kohacon website 08:25 marcelr do we also know how many are on the hackfest? 08:25 drojf i don't 08:25 gaetan_B hello 08:25 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B 08:26 marcelr hi gaetan_B 08:26 drojf but it looks like it may be a big kohacon 08:27 drojf oh marcelr, you should of course also come to berlin ;) 08:27 marcelr yes it should ;) 08:27 drojf cait is coming. more have not dared to say so yet 08:27 marcelr cait is the closest 08:28 drojf johann is closest. he is doing the catmandu workshop. from berlin state library ;) 08:28 marcelr ok 08:28 drojf and well, i can walk there, it's my office :D 08:29 drojf but compared to the rest of the koha community, you are pretty close too :) 08:29 marcelr :) 08:30 * magnuse is closer to berlin than to marseille 08:30 drojf magnuse won't be able to resist a catmandu workshop at some point 08:30 marcelr hi magnuse 08:30 * drojf lures magnuse 08:31 drojf @seen mveron 08:31 huginn drojf: mveron was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 2 days, 22 hours, 6 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: * mveron waves 08:31 drojf need to send marc a spam email too, he is not too far away ;) 08:35 magnuse hiya marcelr 08:35 magnuse i have been to a catmandu workshop in hamburg (swib) but would probably not mind another one 08:37 drojf damn. norwegians, always one step ahead 08:41 magnuse mohahaha 08:42 drojf :) 08:45 drojf berlin administration not only failed to move on from windows XP in time, they also have an estimate of 26000 computers with unsupported versions of IE as of today. berlin is awesome. 08:46 magnuse woohoo 08:47 magnuse my wife is also on xp at her work 08:47 wahanui okay, magnuse. 08:50 drojf magnuse: scary. what does she do? 08:53 magnuse drojf: librarian at a hospital 08:53 magnuse kia ora cait! 08:56 drojf [off] magnuse: sadly that fits in perfectly with my experience with hospital libraries so far 09:07 Francesca hi 10:07 kivilahtio wow I notice we have a MARC::Moose::Record module in cpan 10:07 kivilahtio when is Koha migrating to that? 10:25 * magnuse waves to petter and kivilahtio 10:25 kivilahtio long time no wave magnuse 10:31 petter hei magnus! 10:32 magnuse yeah, time flies 10:32 petter hey olli! Longest time! 10:36 kivilahtio petter: possibly 10:36 kivilahtio petter: we are cooking a lot of stuff! 10:36 kivilahtio petter: we totally overhauled our Swagger2-driven Mojolicious REST API 10:36 kivilahtio we made a suggested pattern for organizing the Swagger2-spec 10:37 kivilahtio petter: https://renki.vaarakirjastot.fi/api/v1/doc/#/ 10:37 kivilahtio it'' cool! 10:37 drojf have a nice weekend #koha 10:39 kivilahtio petter: the spec is here 10:39 wahanui i already had it that way, kivilahtio. 10:39 kivilahtio https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15126 10:39 huginn 04Bug 15126: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , REST API: Use newer version of Swagger2 10:40 kivilahtio petter: are you coming to KohaCon? 10:41 kivilahtio I am not so sure 10:41 kivilahtio Extracting marc-fields to specific database columns took 6-7 times longer using Koha::Object than DBI 10:42 kivilahtio for the shole database of 1.6 million bibs 10:42 kivilahtio I have a Koha burnout 10:42 kivilahtio I hope there is something wrong with our Koha::object configuration :) 10:42 kivilahtio petter: but you are builidng cool stuff, like we 10:43 kivilahtio petter: http://renki.pohjoiskarjala.net:8092/oplib-label-editor.mp4 10:43 kivilahtio petter: how are you doing? 10:53 Joubu kivilahtio: Koha::Objects or DBIx::Class? ... 10:54 kivilahtio Joubu: Koha::Object 10:54 wahanui i think Koha::Object is way underdocumented, you should explain its purpose and how it should be used in the perldoc, otherwise no one else can meaningfully use it. 10:54 kivilahtio wahanui: I dont think anoybody really know 10:54 wahanui kivilahtio: i'm not following you... 10:55 Joubu really know what? 10:56 Joubu kivilahtio: so you have compared Koha::Object vs DBIx::Class vs DBI 10:56 kivilahtio Joubu: Koha::Object vs DBI 10:56 kivilahtio Joubu: I am pushing new code to our GutHub today 10:56 kivilahtio Joubu: I will tell you which cronjob it is 10:56 Joubu ok so it makes sense... 10:56 Joubu DBIx::Class > DBI it's expected 10:56 kivilahtio Joubu: you can super easily just choose from the script if you want to run in Koha:Object or DBI mode 10:57 kivilahtio Joubu: and drive NYTProf on them 10:57 Joubu submit on bugzilla instead 10:57 kivilahtio Joubu: nope 10:57 kivilahtio Joubu: too much work to exract the feature, it wont merge to master anyway 10:58 kivilahtio you can clone our KohaSuomi repo if you want :) 10:58 kivilahtio Joubu: get amazed by our REST API and PageObject tests ;) 10:58 Joubu I am tracking origin/master, nothing else 10:58 kivilahtio Joubu: too bad 10:58 kivilahtio Joubu: but it is good for you 11:04 LibraryClaire morning #koha 11:08 petter olli: sorry, got stuck in discussion, brb 11:10 kivilahtio petter: its ok, I am taking care of a baby :) 11:10 kivilahtio Joubu: I just cant help but wonder what happens to all the batch operations in Koha when everything is under Koha::Object 11:11 kivilahtio Koha::Object might get a speedup then 11:11 kivilahtio the internals can be replaced with DBI :) 12:50 oleonard Hi #koha 12:52 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 13:09 cait hi oleonard :) 13:09 cait i had a question for you 13:10 cait we have librareis with only one branch requesting that we hide one of the library columns in the staff item table... but i failed to do that. now the next asked for it... do you have a moment? 13:11 oleonard Sure 13:14 cait sec, tryin got see what i tried last time 13:17 cait ok, they want to hide current location - because location shows under home library 13:21 cait struggling a bit because my firebug stopped working 13:21 oleonard Which page? 13:21 wahanui Which page is wrong? 13:21 cait detail page in staff for a record with items 13:23 cait $(".items_table td:eq(1)").hide(); seems to hide half of it, but the same for th doesn't work? 13:25 cait hm and once you activate the filters it gets a bit messy 13:26 cait wahanui: forget which page 13:26 wahanui cait: I forgot which page 13:28 oleonard I think its a conflict with the table structure which is generated by DataTables 13:29 cait yeah it hink it's the datatable making it hard 13:29 cait it would b really nice to have the new columns config for th items table 13:29 cait but probably hard 13:30 cait a lot of the columns are optional 13:33 kidclamp cait: this may help - http://bywatersolutions.com/2014/11/07/koha-patron-checkouts-table/ 13:33 cait kidclamp: wow 13:34 cait thx, i will tkae a look at that! 13:34 cait the problem is, that we have no identifieres 13:35 cait and with activate filters... it's adds another first column 13:35 cait ... headache :) 13:35 tcohen morning! 13:35 oleonard Hi tcohen 13:36 tcohen hi oleonard 13:36 LibraryClaire hi tcohen 13:36 * cait waves 13:36 kidclamp cait: yeah, it can be super annoying, we used css to help hide the checkin column on the issues table, that might mork, you just have to point to the right column number 13:36 tcohen hi cait :-D 13:36 kidclamp #issues-table thead th:nth-child(12), #issues-table tbody td:nth-child(12) { 13:36 kidclamp display: none; 13:36 kidclamp } 13:36 tcohen khall: around? 13:37 kidclamp I don't like counting columns, but what can you do 13:38 cait write a patch to give ids to everything? ;) 13:39 tcohen cait++ # volunteering 13:39 oleonard The more we load JS on top of things the more difficult it is for the end-user to customize. 13:39 cait if i had the time i would id all the things :) 13:39 cait kidclamp: maybe something for hackfest :) 13:40 kidclamp oleonard:yeah sometimes I wish there were two userjs prefs: one before the koha scripts so you can stop or override them if you want, and one after so you can build on them 13:40 cait trying to adapt your sample, unsuccessful so far... will continue 13:40 kidclamp good idea cait, it's a nice intro patch just adding ids 13:44 cait growls 13:44 cait not there yet. 13:48 cait hm not getting this to work 13:51 kidclamp trying to hide 'Current location' cait? 13:51 cait yes 13:52 cait I thin i will declare it too error-prone - worried this is going to break with updates etc because we can't address the columns 13:54 kidclamp yeah, that's a bugger 13:54 cait and have the extra features 13:54 cait like the filters 13:55 oleonard Tell them they have to shell out money for column configuration on that page :P 13:55 cait hehe 13:55 cait a ood thought, but i have my doubts 13:56 oleonard Pretty soon all tables in Koha will look like this: http://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/uploads/2006/02/6a0120a85dcdae970b0120a86d6311970b-pi.png 13:56 * cait nos has to find "Tu" in the po files... wish me luck 13:57 cait heh 14:00 cait we managed for the secnd time to get the week days wrong int the calendar widget :) 14:00 cait 2 thursdays... in german now :) 14:10 oleonard So... It's not Friday in Germany, it's Thursday again? Bummer. 14:13 cait nah thursday was yesterday 14:13 cait and ... the day after monday 14:37 tcohen @later tell wizzyrea maybe I made a mistake creating the kohadevbox:ansible branch, but I needed it for my release manager duties, and for properly testing the plack integration into packages, without breaking the one everyone was already using 14:37 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 14:52 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:52 mtompset @seen tcohen 14:52 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 15 minutes and 29 seconds ago: <tcohen> @later tell wizzyrea maybe I made a mistake creating the kohadevbox:ansible branch, but I needed it for my release manager duties, and for properly testing the plack integration into packages, without breaking the one everyone was already using 14:53 tcohen hi mtompset 14:54 mtompset Do you have a little time to discuss filters, hashes, and bug 11592? 14:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11592 major, P3, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility 14:54 tcohen shoot 14:54 tcohen (i don't, but lets try :-D) 14:55 mtompset Okay, if you look at the first splinter review on the bug and click over the opac-detail.pl 14:56 mtompset I get that you want to use filters... I think I might have something for the GetMarcBiblio call at the top. 14:56 mtompset The issue is that the $dat is a hash of the database tables. 14:56 mtompset It isn't MARC at all. 14:56 mtompset How do you recommend filtering that? 14:56 mtompset Keep the ShouldHideMarc function? 14:57 tcohen i'd recommend that you focus on the filter, for MARC::Record objects 14:57 tcohen once it works, we'll figure how to best integrate it on the pipe 14:57 tcohen but we need the filter pushed first 14:59 mtompset because the problem is the UI uses those template variable to display values which should be filtered, but aren't, because the $dat isn't the same kind of thing. 14:59 mtompset And that will be confusing for a tester. 15:01 mtompset I'm thinking the opac/opac-detail template needs a serious refactor to clean it up. 15:01 oleonard Bug 12561 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12561 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Omnibus: Deprecate non-XSLT detail and result views 15:03 francharb Hi Koha! 15:03 francharb Long time no see 15:03 oleonard Hi francharb, how's it going? 15:04 francharb Hi oleonard, pretty well. You? 15:04 mtompset Greetings, francharb oleonard 15:04 francharb o/ mtompset 15:04 * Brooke hugs francharb 15:04 mtompset oleonard: Thanks for that link. 15:04 * francharb hugs Brooke 15:04 * Brooke tackles Ruth 15:05 * druthb hugs Brooke 15:05 * francharb hugs druthb 15:05 * druthb hugs francharb. 15:05 francharb :) 15:05 * Brooke passes out <3 cookies. 15:05 mtompset Greetings, druthb Brooke 15:06 Brooke howdy mtompset 15:06 mtompset Were they made with a sugar substitute and less than 1 net carb? ;) 15:06 oleonard I'm doing well francharb, thanks 15:06 francharb :) 15:07 Brooke No but they have a suspicious .js 22meg package ;) 15:08 oleonard francharb: if you came to #koha curious to see how we're doing without, the answer is terrible. 15:08 oleonard Without you, that is. 15:08 francharb :) 15:08 oleonard Same for you druthb 15:09 druthb Aw! 15:10 oleonard I just feel like if maybe francharb and druthb were still around I would be able to tag a book in the OPAC with an emoji of a pile of poo and it would work. 15:10 francharb Now I feel bad connecting just to ask my question 15:10 francharb ahah 15:10 francharb lol 15:10 Brooke as long as you felt guilty of your own initiative, you'll keep contributing to project ;P 15:11 druthb see, oleonard, you may be right. I'm all about adding Unicode compliance *everywhere*. 15:11 francharb that's what druthb and me make you think about, an emoji of a pile of poo? oleonard 15:11 francharb ;) 15:11 oleonard francharb: No, I'm just obsessed with Bug 15794 15:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15794 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Allow the use of emojis as tags on records 15:12 mtompset druthb: Thanks for the reminder. I want to test if I could set my password to 💩💩💩 15:12 mtompset For testing unicode compliance, of course. :) 15:13 Brooke hehehe 15:13 Brooke if you wanna test unicode compliance I could try and fish up some tasty filthy CKJ data for you 15:13 Brooke and I mean FILTHY 15:14 mtompset No, it's okay. 15:14 Brooke thought you'd see the light :P 15:15 mtompset Strangely, it let me set it, though it displays it as 6 characters instead of 3 when entering it. 15:16 * Brooke misses her super sekrit boyfriend Beau 15:17 francharb emojs as tags! sounds fun!! 15:18 francharb I realised lately that 'J' was the windows emoji for :) 15:18 Brooke 🈠15:18 francharb I was reading emails and keep asking myself, why is there J everywhere 15:19 mtompset Brooke: You triggered a musical flashback. :) https://youtu.be/xtolv9kM1qk 15:19 Brooke yee haw! 15:19 Brooke I kin listen to that raght thar while lookin' over mah ASERL BBQ guide 15:20 Brooke http://www.lib.ua.edu/aserl-bbq/ 15:20 Brooke ^^^^^^ total #fail academics. 1 joint in the great commonwealth of virginia? THIS CANNOT STAND. 15:21 * oleonard has now forgotten what he was working on 15:21 mtompset "What do Librarians Know about Barbecue?" - that's a nice description. :) 15:21 cait francharb: what was your question? 15:21 francharb oleonard, me too! 15:22 francharb cait, what up? 15:22 francharb ah thanks 15:22 cait and hi :) 15:22 francharb does relevance ranking works in 3.20? 15:22 cait ew 15:23 francharb ahah 15:23 francharb I kno 15:23 francharb I read about it on the mailing list and zebra documentation 15:23 cait hm i sometimes refer to this, but not sure how well it covers the topic http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/11/27/a-little-bit-about-relevance-in-koha/ 15:23 francharb I read this too 15:24 francharb but the thing is, on my installations, records are always ordered by biblionumber when I order by relevance 15:24 francharb I enable the queryweighfield syspref 15:25 cait marc21? 15:25 wahanui i guess marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html 15:25 francharb I checked the rank option in the zebra configuration file 15:25 francharb yes cait 15:25 francharb marc21 15:25 cait hm 15:25 cait i think some of the prefs don't work well 15:25 cait try to turn off autotruncate 15:28 cait hm and also stemming 15:28 francharb cait, you nailed it! It was autotruncate 15:28 francharb I tried the other one (stemming, etc) 15:28 * cait nods 15:28 francharb but for whatever reason, haven't tried this one 15:29 francharb Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 15:29 cait np 15:29 cait i ran into the same.... and just discovered the library turned it back on *sigh* 15:29 Brooke Cait is always right, never wrong. 15:30 cait that would amke me really scary... thankfully it#s totally not true 15:30 Brooke I suspect a close shared common ancestor with Galen. >.> <.< 15:32 oleonard Brooke: She can't be *that* closely related to gmcharlt, she doesn't have any cats. 15:32 gmcharlt :) 15:39 cait oleonard: but i like cats ): 15:39 cait :) 15:39 gmcharlt cait++ 15:39 cait but as single person with a small apartment that's not really an option at the moment :) 15:41 * druthb agrees with Brooke--cait is always right. :) 15:41 cait hmpf 15:41 druthb :P 15:50 francharb Let's make a FAQ called "Cait" 15:50 francharb ;) 15:50 francharb Then we could say for any question, have you checked Cait? 15:50 francharb ;) 15:51 francharb I just hope my broken english is not innapropriate 15:51 francharb :) 15:55 Joubu francharb: try adding some more smileys ;) 16:01 francharb (^L^) 16:01 reiveune bye 16:17 mtompset francharb: Sorry, I was looking in another window. Your play on words was just fine. :) 16:18 medo hi all - i'm looking for some guidance on server specs for koha. the only thing i've seen so far is the requirements on the download page https://koha-community.org/download-koha/ 16:18 medo i'm setting up a vm to try it out on, and not sure how much to allocate 16:18 mtompset medo: allocate what? disk space? memory? 16:19 mtompset How big is your test data? 16:19 mtompset Are you going to be lazy and call it production after you finish doing this? :) 16:19 mtompset Because more is always good. :) 16:20 medo haha no, definitely not production 16:20 medo but i would like to eventually test it with our full collection, 650k bibs, 2M items. maybe a few hundred clients 16:20 mtompset Okay, for tinkering around you can probably get away with 32GB (it's a nice round number) drive, and at least 1GB RAM. 16:20 mtompset Oh, testing THAT size.... 16:21 medo but yes, i don't know much about setting up the vm, so i'm looking for some good numbers to give our sysadmin 16:21 medo eventually. i'd probably start much smaller, but i'd rather only set it up once 16:21 mtompset 256GB drive space (I'm totally guessing at this), 4GB Ram. 16:23 mtompset Though, like I said more is always good. 16:25 medo thanks. i'm curious as to what other people are using - is there anything published on server specs for library/collection size? 16:28 mtompset A base install, you get 5GB drive... 2M items @ 1K each = 2GB * 6 (because Zebra is a pig, and mysql [3[zeb]+2[mysql]+1[data itself]]) = 12GB. -- Okay, what about circulation numbers? 16:28 mtompset Because lots of circulation needs more drive space. 16:30 mtompset But I've seen item entries a lot longer than 1K. 16:31 mtompset You might be able to get your 2M on a 64GB.... but I'd be worried about running out of diskspace for circulation. 16:32 Joubu bag, khall: do you have a push session planned soon? 16:32 medo circ done on the test? probably not much. if i can import with the history, maybe 1.5M circs a year 16:32 bag yes Joubu 16:33 medo maybe 400k borrowers 16:33 mtompset Wow. 16:33 Joubu bag: ok great to hear that :) 16:46 pianohacker_DND Joubu: any reason I shouldn't QA bug 11844? 16:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11844 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Additional fields for order lines 16:47 cait hm you haven't written or signed off 16:47 cait so why are you asking? :) 16:47 pianohacker_DND cait: because of bug 15744 16:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15744 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED INVALID, GlobalSys: UsageStatsLibraryType German Text 2x "Firmenbibliothek" 16:47 pianohacker_DND bug 15774 16:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Additional fields for baskets 16:47 pianohacker_DND that one 16:47 cait a similar feature, but not the same 16:48 pianohacker_DND coolio macaroni 16:48 cait I think i tmight even be good 16:48 cait because we should aim for some consistenc 16:48 cait y 16:48 cait with these features 16:52 pianohacker_DND cait: bug 15774 does bring that in; centralized admin screen, factoring out of code, etc etc; thus why Joubu asked for a rebase 16:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Additional fields for baskets 16:53 pianohacker_DND cait: I was gonna QA it to keep things movin, since I know you're busy atm 16:53 cait just don't push if you qa ok? :) 16:53 pianohacker_DND yar yar 16:54 pianohacker_DND that's my big red bag button is for 16:54 pianohacker_DND sorry, big red bug bag button 16:56 cait time for weekend - bye all :) 17:02 gaetan_B bye 17:05 * oleonard doesn't want to see what is in pianohacker_DND's bug bag. 17:31 oleonard 'Go to the admin page, the "Additional parameters" area should now have the link "SMS cellular providers"' 17:31 oleonard Oh, only if I set the SMSSendDriver preg. 17:31 oleonard pref. 18:12 oleonard "Are you sure you want..." 87 matches. "Are you sure you wish..." 3 matches. 18:13 oleonard Perhaps we should throw in, "Is it your true desire to..." or "Have you really thought through your decision to..." 18:34 zsolt Hi, is there an option to connect my library to other libraries< 18:41 Joubu @later tell pianohacker please do! :) 18:41 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 18:41 Joubu sorry for the lag, but big cold, I not really around... 18:42 Joubu Have a great week-end #koha! 18:52 oleonard zsolt: What do you mean by connect? 18:52 magnuse hope you feel better soon, Joubu! 18:54 zsolt If somebody searching in a koha library (not mine) to get results from my koha library too? 18:56 oleonard That might be possible if Bug 10486 can be made to work, but it's not possible now. 18:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC 18:59 zsolt thank you 19:15 tcohen #koha: have a nice weekend everone 19:33 mtompset When did English become a core perl module? 19:39 oleonard ? 19:40 mtompset oleonard: Just checking if I needed to change PerlDependencies or not, in case it was a newer version of perl. :) 19:40 mtompset instead of $@ (for example) 19:40 mtompset $EVAL_ERROR 19:40 mtompset if there is a use English; 19:41 mtompset makes code more readable and get higher level of perlcritic. ;) 20:03 mtompset Wow. My connection is flaky! 20:03 oleonard Bye #koha 20:49 kidclamp_dnd anyone know, is C4 barcodes just dead code? 20:49 mtompset Not last time I checked, but I could be mis-remembering. :) 20:50 kidclamp so it's just broken then :-) 20:50 mtompset PDF stuff in Koha is rather poor at this time. :) 21:10 mtompset Greetings, tcohen 21:11 mtompset If I improved the perlcritic level of test, should I put the patch on bug 6679, or create a new bug, and put a depends on? 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests 21:14 * tcohen doesn't like patches that are too general 21:14 * tcohen means bugs 21:14 tcohen depend 21:49 cait kidclamp: hm it's not dead 21:49 cait kidclamp: and should not be broken... 21:50 cait you usually need at least one fitting barcode for it to work in your database 21:50 cait catalog the first item manually and then if it does not work... it's broken :) 21:58 tcohen hm, barcode generators are good candidates for the plugin system 22:03 kidclamp it's broken cait 22:04 cait hmm 22:04 kidclamp at least for annual, the sql to get the max does a MAX and a GROUP BY and unpairs the correct values 22:04 kidclamp same for hbyymmdd 22:04 cait hm weird 22:04 cait there are tests for the module i think 22:05 cait tests seem ok still perl t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t 22:05 cait is it only broken in acq or also in cataloguing? 22:07 kidclamp looks like the tests don't actually write to the db 22:07 cait we have broken them a couple of times already 22:07 cait and fixed 22:08 cait if you look at bugzilla 22:08 cait pretty annoying 22:08 kidclamp I don't think anything actually uses them, the plugins use ValueBuilder.pm 22:08 kidclamp which says it should use Barcodes.pm 22:08 kidclamp it's only when you have more then one matchign value in the db that they are broken 22:09 kidclamp you can see the queries in ValueBuilder.pm and Barcodes::annual.pm don't match 22:09 cait hm there is a C4:Barcodes in additem.pl 22:09 kidclamp but it doesn't use next_value, it has it's own increment function 22:10 cait it doesn't seem to show up in context of Seirals or acq 22:10 kidclamp and it does it's ownfetch to find the highest value or it only builds off of what is passed 22:11 cait i think i can't follow - it's a bit too late here 22:12 kidclamp me too, I lost far too mich time debugging my code before figuringout (or convincing myself) that the Barcodes module is the problem 22:12 kidclamp :-) 22:13 cait maybe try with fresh eyes on monday? 22:13 cait time for a weekend? :) 22:14 kidclamp indeed! 🻠22:14 kidclamp 🺠22:14 kidclamp have a good weekend cait! 22:14 cait you too :) 22:20 * pianohacker_DND wishes that MARC fields couldn't contain a-z 22:23 pianohacker_DND s/field/tag numbers/ 22:26 mtompset MARC fields can contain letters? 22:26 mtompset I thought only subfields could do that. 22:26 mtompset Are you sure, pianohacker_DND? 22:27 pianohacker_DND mtompset, yes, unfortunately. 22:27 pianohacker_DND It's really rare, but there is 01e 22:27 pianohacker_DND and given that it's MARC, I didn't feell safe not supporting that in RAncor 22:28 mtompset What?! 22:28 pianohacker_DND marc-- 22:29 mtompset 01e?! Where's the definition? 22:29 pianohacker_DND it's in the framework, at least 22:29 pianohacker_DND @marc 01e 22:29 huginn pianohacker_DND: unknown tag 01e 22:30 mtompset I think this might be a MARCXML extension. 22:32 pianohacker_DND entirely possible 22:32 pianohacker_DND but ISO 2709 is, as far as I know, the only thing that limits valid tag/subfield codes, and it just says alphanumeric 22:35 mtompset http://www.loc.gov/standards/marcxml/schema/MARC21slim.xsd 22:36 norbertDD cait *help* my z39 search doesnt work :/ where i can find logs find the problem 22:36 mtompset "This schema supports XML markup of MARC21 records as specified in the MARC documentation (see www.loc.gov). It allows tags with alphabetics and subfield codes that are symbols, neither of which are as yet used in the MARC 21 communications formats, but are allowed by MARC 21 for local data." 22:40 pianohacker_DND ...symbols? 22:41 cait yes 22:42 * mtompset smirks. 22:43 mtompset I wonder if $💩 is valid. ;) 22:43 pianohacker_DND You put that in Rancor, you get undefined behavior 22:44 pianohacker_DND undefined behavior may include but is not limited to a hand reaching out of the screen and flicking you on the nose 22:44 cait i think it depends on the docs you read 22:44 cait i just found one that says lowercase alphabetic and numeric 22:44 mtompset cait: probably true. 22:47 cait pianohacker_DND: http://www.loc.gov/marc/specifications/specrecstruc.html 22:48 pianohacker_DND waaaaait 22:48 cait Data element identifiers defined in MARC 21 may be any ASCII lowercase alphabetic or numeric character. In general, numeric identifiers are defined for data used to process the field, or coded data needed to interpret the field. Alphabetic identifiers are defined for the separate elements which constitute the data content of the field. The character 9 and the following ASCII graphic symbols are reserved for local definition as data element identifi 22:48 cait ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / : ; < = > ? { } _ ^ ` ~ [ ] \ 22:48 pianohacker_DND "uppercase or lowercase, but not both"? 22:49 cait strictly speaking uppercase is not allowed.... but it works 22:49 cait and i'd prefer them over ! 22:53 pianohacker_DND cait: what are you quoting? 22:53 cait the document linked 22:54 pianohacker_DND which part? Because I think it's self-contradictory 22:54 cait i think it says those are for local use... but it's confusing :) 22:55 pianohacker_DND very 22:56 cait night all :) 23:07 mtompset Try not to go insance, pianohacker_DND :) 23:08 mtompset insane. 23:08 mtompset Can't type. :P 23:08 mtompset Have a great weekend, #koha pianohacker_DND rocio 23:50 barton ok, I'm forsaking the land of Koha, and heading for the land of Beer. or something. Have a nice weekend! 23:50 barton woops, wrong channel. 23:51 barton have a nice weekend anyway :-)