Time Nick Message 03:44 * Francesca waves 06:19 dcook night all 06:19 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back. 06:32 pablito hi everyone, I have a problem with the new barcode format for Koha 3.22 06:33 pablito I have set the format to be EAN-13, but since I updated to the latest Koha 3.22.3, the format has changed even though the setting is still at EAN-13\ 07:25 marcelr hi #koha 07:49 reiveune hello 08:02 alex_a bonjour 08:14 gaetan_B hell 09:21 drojf morning #koha 09:47 drojf what is urgent about an image in a koha opac? 09:47 * drojf sighs 09:54 drojf i wonder if others would like a "if your question is urgent now, you should have asked it yesterday -- free tech support" shirt too 10:02 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 10:02 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 2.0°C (10:50 AM CET on February 18, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 10:20 cait drojf: also missing version and how he added it.... 10:22 drojf the more "urgent", the less info in the email. i looked though all mails with "urgent" in the topic from that list wondering if i set a filter to just delete such mails. but there are really urgent things like bugs after upgrades sometimes, so i did not 10:23 drojf and hi cait 10:28 marcelr Joubu: bug 15809? if I would submit a counter patch, i cannot qa anymore .. 10:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15809 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , versions of CGI < 4.08 do not have multi_param 10:29 Joubu but I could :) 10:29 Joubu marcelr: I don't like the Koha::CGI module 10:30 marcelr why not? 10:30 Joubu and don't understand how you could do without modifying pm files 10:30 Joubu I don't see the point, to create a module, to handle an overwrite 10:31 Joubu then we will remove this trick around multi_param/param and have Koha::CGI everywhere, for nothing 10:31 marcelr everywhere? 10:31 wahanui everywhere is a suburb 10:31 marcelr you could remove the call and the module in one run (automatically) 10:32 marcelr i am wondering how many times we really need to silence the warns 10:34 Joubu The solution I suggest seems so easier that I don't want to implement something else 10:34 marcelr it is kind of quick and dirty 10:35 marcelr but i understand your point 10:35 Joubu but very efficient 10:35 Joubu and it's what has been done in other projects 10:35 marcelr but it still needs attention for the warn variaable 10:35 Joubu the warn var is useless if it's not triggered by older version 10:35 Joubu s 10:36 marcelr if nobody sends another reply, i will have a second look tomorrow 10:37 marcelr they had a chance 10:57 Qasim hello 10:57 wahanui hola, Qasim 10:58 Qasim i have same problem 10:58 Qasim my koha overdue first notice in going but other not 10:59 Qasim any solution 11:00 Qasim my koha overdue first notice is going but other not 11:00 Qasim any solution help me thanks 11:05 drojf urgent 11:05 drojf sorry 11:16 Joubu @later tell rangi could you have a look at the splitter cronjob please? It's not up-to-date at all. Thanks! 11:16 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:16 * andreashm waves 12:51 oleonard Hi all 12:54 LibraryClaire Hi #koha 13:05 oleonard Good morning barton 13:05 barton morning oleonard! 13:06 cait morning oleonard :) 13:06 cait oleonard++ 13:06 cait patches everywhere! 13:12 oleonard But still no emojis as tags. All my efforts are drops in the ocean compared to that. 13:14 cait heh 13:23 oleonard When using the koha-translate command I get errors, including "Koha directories hierarchy for de-DE must be created first" 13:23 oleonard That doesn't seem like it should happen. Permissions problem perhaps? 13:23 cait hm run it a second time 13:23 oleonard Same 13:23 cait i have seen this... but i think it goes away if you just run it again 13:23 cait hmmm 13:24 cait yeah shoudl not happen i think - this is on master? 13:27 oleonard I'm trying to install translations in my gitified package installation, and what I recall is that I need to use koha-translate to generate the translations and then copy them to my git directory 13:29 cait hmm 13:29 cait i am sorry, i never worked with gitified much 13:34 tcohen morning 13:34 tcohen oleonard 13:34 wahanui i guess oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 13:34 tcohen that won't work 13:34 oleonard Is there a correct way tcohen? 13:34 tcohen you need to do it the-old-way 13:34 drojf oleonard: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2015-12-03#i_1763107 13:34 tcohen cd misc/translator 13:35 tcohen perl translate install <lang> 13:35 drojf (not sure if it worked back then from the logs) 13:35 oleonard Thanks drojf it won't be the last time the irc log proves my memory to be terrible. 13:36 drojf oleonard: it happens to me all the time 13:36 oleonard I remember yesterday I did some... stuff. 13:36 tcohen oleonard, koha-translate will use the packages templates 13:36 tcohen you want to use the git ones 13:37 oleonard Thanks tcohen I'll try that. 13:38 oleonard I wonder if we can use data from the schema to provide autocomplete on preferences which require you to enter table column names? 13:39 tcohen oleonard: have you tried kohadevbox? 13:42 oleonard No 14:35 CanuckPaul Just testing a new install of Chatzilla 14:38 oleonard CanuckPaul: Words have appeared on the screen making it look as if you are speaking. Success! 14:41 Vera hello drojf 14:44 CanuckPaul Thanks Owen -- I'm a bit of a liddite at this sort of thing... 14:45 CanuckPaul woops - l*u*ddite -- fingers not going yet, it's zero degrees Fahrenheit outside. 14:46 oleonard @wunder 45701 14:46 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is 3.6°C (9:45 AM EST on February 18, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). 15:03 oleonard sql in cataloguing/editor.pl? Isn't that against coding guidelines? 15:05 cait it's not a report... so probabyl yes 15:22 cait gmcharlt: around? 15:22 gmcharlt cait: hmm? 15:23 cait hi :) 15:23 cait LibraryClaire: is having trouble getting into the wiki 15:23 cait i moderated her request - so that shoudl be ok 15:23 cait shoudl the initial password be sent by email? 15:24 cait she tried sending herself a new password, but hasn't received an email 15:27 gmcharlt cait: I checked the wiki's mail logs, and it thinks that it successfully sent the email (about 1.5 hours ago); she should check her spam folder 15:28 cait LibraryClaire? 15:28 cait can you see which email was used? 15:28 gmcharlt yep 15:28 LibraryClaire I checked. Nothing :( 15:34 gmcharlt LibraryClaire: may try creating an account with a different email address? 15:34 LibraryClaire gmcharlt: will try now 15:37 LibraryClaire gmcharlt: got the email address confirmation straight away, so just waiting for a password 15:57 LibraryClaire no joy yet, heading off in a mo so will keep an eye out for an email 16:03 reiveune bye 16:37 gaetan_B bye 17:21 oleonard Useful? http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14558159879159 17:25 oleonard The reaction is unanimous! 17:25 tcohen oleonard++ 17:25 * tcohen likes it 18:11 pianohacker fredericd: how is coce pronounced? 18:50 oleonard pianohacker: How does the MARC editor decide which interface to use? 18:51 pianohacker oleonard: saved in a cookie; when you click "switch to advanced/basic" it changes the cookie 18:52 oleonard Where does that cookie check happen in the code? 18:54 pianohacker oleonard: addbiblio.pl just after the get_template_and_user 18:55 pianohacker it exploding? 18:56 oleonard No, just thinking about whether it might be useful to offer the user an explicit choice in some cases. 18:57 oleonard Like an "Edit with..." menu on addbooks.pl for instance 18:59 oleonard Or maybe that's just something which sounds useful because look at it through the eyes of a tester. 19:00 oleonard http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14558220302326 19:00 oleonard pianohacker ^ 19:01 pianohacker hmm 19:14 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 19:14 bag greetings mtj 19:14 bag mtompset: 19:14 bag silly autocorrect 19:14 mtompset :) 19:15 mtompset You wouldn't happen to know how to find the first time I actually said something on this IRC channel, would you? 19:15 * cait waves 19:15 mtompset Greetings, bag cait :) 19:15 bag hi cait 19:16 oleonard mtompset: I'm pretty sure there is a break in the logs somewhere... oftc switch maybe? rangi would know. 19:16 pianohacker oleonard: what was that you posted? A screenshot after some firebug monkeying? 19:17 oleonard pianohacker: Testing some template changes 19:18 pianohacker oleonard: I'm not sure I see the use case immediately but it seems like a reasonable idea 19:32 oleonard Is Bug 13871 languishing because of the difficulty in QA'ing it? 19:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13871 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Signed Off , OverDrive message when user authentication fails 19:33 cait yes 19:34 cait sip patches are a big problem 19:34 oleonard I can imagine. 19:35 drojf it would be nice to have something to test that. but i have no idea how to do that 19:35 cait i currently have practically no time :( 19:35 cait it will hopefully be better in 2 weeks 19:35 cait i hope to try agian to set up a test environment then 19:35 drojf sip, ldap and shibboleth patches tend to lie around for a long time 19:36 cait yeah :( 19:36 cait not good at all 19:36 cait any ideas are really welcome 19:36 drojf ptfs could send someone to the hackfest to instruct us how to do it ;) 19:40 drojf is rome and the koha meeting in leipzig at the same time? 19:41 cait i think so 19:41 cait not sure about the days, but it's the same week 19:42 drojf 15/16 is rome. i was asked about 14/15 for a meeting in leipzig so it must at least be close 19:43 cait oh? 19:43 drojf 15. 11:30--12:30 19:43 drojf some katrin posted it to koha-de ;) 19:43 cait oh 19:44 cait you confused me :) 19:44 drojf hm? 19:44 drojf i was asked by someone else, not about the koha thingy 19:44 drojf but i think i prefer rome :P 19:44 cait are you going? :) 19:45 drojf i hope to. got to sort things out, but i think it could work 19:45 cait a bit envious :) 19:45 drojf could have been announced a little earlier… 19:46 cait hm i had seen it a bit earlier elsewhere 19:46 drojf lots of koha travelling this year 19:46 cait :) 19:47 bag bug 15809 19:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15809 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , versions of CGI < 4.08 do not have multi_param 20:02 mtj hey #koha 20:04 mtj Joubu 💓 thanks for sorting bug 15840, 20:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15840 major, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Import borrowers tool explodes if userid already exists 20:06 * mtj gives cait a 🪠20:06 cait ? 20:06 cait i don't see it :) 20:06 pianohacker cait: you must be hungry 20:07 mtj aah, really? my emoji technique needs improving 20:07 pianohacker cait: because right now you don't have enough bytes to display that character 20:08 cait ? 20:08 * cait is hungry for chocolate... but hasn't bought any 20:33 mtj hmm, the emojis show in the irc log... thats nice 20:33 mtj http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/today 20:43 mtj 🚫... 🔨🕑 20:44 mtj ..a 1st attempt at some emoji humor 20:51 kidclamp hah mtj took me sec there 21:07 tcohen hi 21:08 tcohen has anyone experienced problems with the plugins (like MARC Lint) in 3.20? 21:08 wizzyrea hi 21:08 wahanui salut, wizzyrea 21:08 wizzyrea hrm, I haven't tested a plugin in 3.20 21:08 wizzyrea but I am going to be doing that very soon I think 21:08 wizzyrea what kind of problem? 21:09 wizzyrea plack related? 21:09 tcohen nope 21:09 tcohen it is just that it is uploaded, uncompressed, the files are there 21:09 tcohen but Koha keeps saying No plugins installed 21:09 tcohen weird 21:09 wizzyrea are the permissions correct? 21:09 tcohen yes 21:09 * tcohen double checks 21:09 wizzyrea on earlier plugins we had to have a scriptalias in our config 21:10 wizzyrea to make it work 21:10 wizzyrea something like (just a second) 21:10 wizzyrea oh, a regular alias 21:11 wizzyrea Alias /plugin/ "/var/lib/koha/library/plugins/" 21:11 tcohen isn't that handled by the packageS? 21:11 wizzyrea it's possible it is now 21:11 wizzyrea it wasn't when we did this though 21:12 wizzyrea 3.16-ish 21:12 tcohen nope 21:12 tcohen it isn't. 21:12 tcohen hmpf 21:12 wizzyrea just trying to think of all the things we did to make plugins work :) 21:12 wizzyrea bc I"m sure I've seen your issue before 21:13 wizzyrea very frustrating. 21:18 kidclamp tcohen is MARC:Lint installed? 21:19 kidclamp last time a plugin refused to appear it was because I didn't have the necessary modules installed 21:19 tcohen oh my 21:19 tcohen :-D 21:20 tcohen so our plugin system lacks those checks 21:20 kidclamp well, it checks, it just doesnt tell you :-) 21:20 kidclamp it just refuses to show the plugin 21:21 tcohen :-P 21:21 kidclamp 💩 21:21 tcohen ok, encoding issues 21:21 tcohen and this plugin should definitely skip subfield 9 checks 21:22 tcohen ok, thanks kidclamp and wizzyrea 21:22 kidclamp np 21:22 wizzyrea oh did you get it sorteD/ 21:22 wizzyrea ? 21:22 wizzyrea was it the modules or the alias or both? 21:23 eythian Hi 21:23 wahanui bidet, eythian 21:23 wizzyrea hi eythian 21:23 tcohen wizzyrea: it was the module 21:23 eythian That'll never get old 21:23 wizzyrea hehehe 21:23 tcohen libmarc-lint-perl 21:23 wizzyrea sweet :) 21:31 pianohacker @later tell aleisha Poke about bug 15531; I can't duplicate your test failures :) 21:31 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded. 21:33 wizzyrea I bet she's not setting her perl5lib in koha-shell 21:33 wizzyrea or not using koha-shell 21:33 wizzyrea i.e. she's testing against the installed package code instead of the git code. 21:34 wizzyrea so naturally the tests would fail 21:34 wizzyrea ^ common trap with devbox 21:34 pianohacker wizzyrea: would that cause a test created by the bug to fail? 21:34 wizzyrea yep 21:34 pianohacker ah... 21:34 wizzyrea we should teach devbox that we should use the /home/vagrant/kohaclone/ for the perl5lib 21:34 wizzyrea always 21:38 wizzyrea https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/issues/88 < I filed a bug, I may get round to fixing it but it probably won't be soon. 21:38 pianohacker wizzyrea: do you work with aleisha? 21:38 wizzyrea I do 21:39 * pianohacker hands wizzyrea an intern-poking stick 21:39 wizzyrea aleisha doesn't need poking. :) 21:39 pianohacker @later tell aleisha wizzyrea thinks it's probably because your PERL5LIB isn't set to /home/vagrant/kohaclone 21:39 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded. 21:40 wizzyrea I could be wrong, but it's something that tripped me up a while back. 21:40 pianohacker wizzyrea++ 21:40 pianohacker thanks much, just saw your bz comment as well 21:41 wizzyrea devbox is great for getting going quickly 21:42 wizzyrea it causes one to need to do some somersaults sometimes to do all the things that need doing. 21:43 wizzyrea also currently it's probably better to devbox from my github instead of the origin one, because I've fixed some things that they haven't accepted yet. 21:43 wizzyrea (userpermissions.sql not being imported when the web installer isn't run, for example) 21:44 pianohacker My setup is kind of anti-devbox, though that's more out of stubborn habit than anything. I also don't like where Makefile.PL puts things 21:45 pianohacker I'm so happy the barrier to Koha dev entry has been lowered so much, it used to be incredibly painful to get an environment set up 21:49 wizzyrea yeah, gitify was a huge thing 21:50 wizzyrea even just installing the package and gitifying it 21:50 wizzyrea is so much better than the old way 21:50 wizzyrea cjh, I miss that guy. 21:57 wizzyrea eythian too, but at least I still get to talk to him now and again ^.^ 22:26 cait @later tell khall could you check changes to coding guidelines again? 22:26 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 22:32 drojf good night #koha