Time  Nick             Message
04:08 dcook            This has to be my favourite new Zebra-related error: CCL parsing error (10014) Embedded truncation not supported ZOOM
04:09 dcook            Courtesy of YAZ 4.2.27...
04:11 dcook            I'm using the st-urx qualifier
04:11 dcook            Why would I be trying to embed truncation in a url?
04:12 dcook            Truncation is off by default anyway..
04:12 * dcook          grumbles
04:12 dcook            Even when you tell it "do-not-truncate", you still get this error..
04:12 dcook            Oooh... maybe it's because we're forming our queries badly
04:12 * dcook          would not be surprised by that either
04:16 dcook            Yep, it's Koha's fault
04:16 * dcook          sighs
04:35 dcook            Easy enough to fix
04:36 dcook            TFW you're wondering why your import is failing and then you realize that your "nomatch_action" is set to "ignore"
04:36 * dcook          facepalm
04:36 wahanui          http://media1.giphy.com/media/6OWIl75ibpuFO/giphy.gif
04:57 dcook            Truncation seems all kinds of screwed up actually..
06:28 drojf            morning #koha
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07:01 drojf            hei magnuse
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07:26 reiveune         hello
07:26 wahanui          salut, reiveune
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08:18 cait             morning #koha
08:19 magnuse          kia ora cait
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08:19 cait             morning
08:25 drojf            hi cait
08:25 cait             hi drojf
08:27 gaetan_B         hello
08:57 Joubu            hi
09:09 gaetan_B         http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/borrowers.html says, surname, address and city cannot be null
09:09 gaetan_B         is it new ?
09:09 gaetan_B         and why ?
09:09 gaetan_B         it's quite common to have users without addresses in the database
09:09 gaetan_B         just wondering if there is a reason for this that i am missing
09:10 gaetan_B         (i guess i can still put an empty sting in there of course)
09:10 gaetan_B         *string
09:10 Joubu            gaetan_B: I don't think it's new
09:11 Joubu            if you don't fill it from the form, an empty string will be put into these fields
09:11 Joubu            but yes, it would be better to remove this constraint
09:23 * andreashm      waves
09:27 magnuse          o/
09:46 andreashm        yo magnuse
09:51 andreashm        interesting to read the log today. =)
09:52 magnuse          wassup!
09:53 magnuse          gotcha
09:53 magnuse          only for my prince?
09:54 andreashm        hehe
09:59 Joubu            paul_p: hi! Any chances that you remember what is the "PE" branch category? Do you know if it is still used?
09:59 paul_p           hi joubu
09:59 paul_p           nope, I don't remember what it stand for, sorry
10:00 Joubu            If a library is in a group of libraries named "PE", a "IsPermanent" flag is set on transfering the item and the item is not done
10:01 Joubu            and the *transfer* is not done
10:01 Joubu            It looks like a very well hidden feature :)
10:03 magnuse          an easter egg :-)
10:11 magnuse          Joubu: dunno if this commit might shed some light: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=498e69d183c53fec4e3459a098758c4ee7db913d
10:11 magnuse          it removes some "HLT-style categories" from installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_libraries.sql
10:12 magnuse          including "('PE', 'Permanent Library', 'Permanent libraries can be used to set an item\'s home location (items.homebranch)');"
10:12 Joubu            --- HLT-style categories
10:12 Joubu            yes, should be confirmed on the ML
12:44 tcohen           morning
12:45 cait             morning tcohen
12:45 tcohen           cait!
12:55 oleonard         Hi #koha
12:55 cait             hi oleonard
12:55 cait             :)
13:24 tcohen           hi oleonard
13:27 kidclamp         oleonard++
14:17 * magnuse        wanders off to make pizza - have fun #koha!
14:26 oleonard         today?
14:26 wahanui          today is Sunday
14:27 oleonard         Uh huh.
14:29 drojf            and i went to work. damn
14:30 nengard          ha
14:31 gmcharlt         drojf: would you like op?
14:34 drojf            gmcharlt: it's been ages since i ran an irc channel, but having the option would not hurt for the rare cases like today
14:35 drojf            (not saying i would run anything here ;)
14:36 gmcharlt         yeah, I'm just envisioning it as providing a way to have somebody in a position to kick spammers off
14:37 drojf            i have done that before
14:37 * oleonard       waits in fear for the power to corrupt drojf
14:38 * oleonard       prepares some fawning compliments for drojf just in case
14:38 drojf            lol oleonard
14:38 oleonard         Anyone here actively using the offline circulation Firefox addon?
14:38 drojf            i had my fair share of kickbans for fun when i was younger ;)
14:39 oleonard         When I test it I don't end up with any pending offline operations in circulation.
14:40 gmcharlt         drojf: ok, you should now be able to request op from chanserv - give it a try?
14:43 drojf            let me find out what my password is :D
14:45 drojf            looks like that works
14:45 Joubu            /kick Joubu
14:45 Joubu            have a good week-end #koha ;)
14:45 drojf            hehe
14:45 drojf            alright, thanks gmcharlt
14:46 drojf            have a nice weekend Joubu
14:46 gmcharlt         groovy
14:53 vera             I will need help on how to get my Z39.50 protocol back to work to enable my library continue with Copy Cataloging. I configured the Z39.50 search point in the past and it had worked perfectly well until some few days ago when i started receiving "not found" error message for any material searched for (I do not know what went wrong).  I have deleted all the libraries (Library of Congress,etc) added to the Z39.50 and re- added them all over again but still get
14:53 vera             same error
14:54 drojf            do you run the server yourself?
14:54 vera             yes i do
14:55 drojf            did you change things like firewall settings?
14:55 vera             no, i did not
14:55 drojf            can you connect to the servers in question with yaz-client?
14:56 vera             its a local server that connect to the internet to get bibliographic information from other libraries
14:59 drojf            yes. my question is if you can connect to the z39.50-servers you want to use in koha with yaz-client running on your server
14:59 drojf            it's a command line z39.50 client. you will find information on how to use it here http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/yaz-client.html
14:59 vera             i should think so
15:00 drojf            try it. if that works, you may have a problem in koha. if it doesn't, it seems like either a network problem on your side or wrong server data
15:01 vera             ok! thanks!
15:01 vera             i will try that
15:03 drojf            oh cait and magnuse are chanops too. that should have covered our timezone. however it did not today
15:04 drojf            i think at least magnuse did not know ;)
15:17 cait             gmcharlt: how do i get my ops rights?
15:17 cait             i tried this morning... but only vaguely rememberd something and identifying with the nickserv didn't help :)
15:23 gmcharlt         cait: /msg ChanServ op
15:24 gmcharlt         Er, /msg ChanServ #koha op
15:30 cait             hm
15:31 cait             hm doesn't seem to work
15:31 cait             uknown command
15:31 cait             tried some variations
15:32 cait             (16:32:01) ChanServ: (notice) Unknown command #koha, /msg ChanServ HELP for help.
15:33 cait             aaah
15:33 cait             figured it out :)
15:34 cait             /msg ChanServ op #koha cait
15:35 oleonard         We don't have a way to do batch checkins do we?
15:36 cait             oleonard: hm not yet i think, only the bactch checouts - didn't see a bug either
15:37 oleonard         Boo.
15:43 oleonard         Oh, luckily the batch item modification tool checks things in when doing a batch update of checked-out items. That'll work ;)
15:43 oleonard         Handy. And scary!
15:52 oleonard         khall: Isn't Bug 15749 the same as  OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown ?
15:52 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15749 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add library menu to OPAC header
15:53 khall            oleonard: not really, it's sort of more like setting your logged in branch on the staff intranet
16:17 reiveune         bye
16:21 cabillman        oleonard: it probably helps to think of 15749 in the context of being a librarian in a room full of 6 year olds :)
16:22 cabillman        trying to get the kids to log in is problematic
16:22 oleonard         cabillman: Unfortunately through that lens we are also assuming that an adult is looking over the user's shoulder and telling them what to click on.
16:22 oleonard         Right now there is nothing about the menu which indicates what it does.
16:23 * oleonard       is putting comments on the bug report
16:23 cabillman        oleonard: in our case we have had this patch for years so our patrons are trained
16:23 cabillman        at the time i don't think you could set the branches based on virtual hosts
16:56 oleonard         I wonder why git branch autocompletion doesn't work on when I'm logged in on my web host
17:10 gaetan_B         bye
17:28 cait             [off] paul_p: SirsiDynix releases pilot of BLUEcloud eRM based on the open-source electronic Resource Management system CORAL http://bit.ly/BLUEcloud-eRM  ?
17:32 oleonard         Where's SirsiDynix's repo for their fork?
17:32 cait             i wonder if paul_p knows more
17:32 cait             biblibre works on coral afaik
17:34 * oleonard       wishes the Coral web site made their software licensing terms more clear.
17:36 drojf            i thought its gpl. is it not?
17:37 cait             [off] i think bluecloud is hosted....so same problem as... ?
17:38 cait             http://coral-erm.org/about/
17:38 cait             GPL v. 3
17:40 drojf            only idiots don't switch tpo AGPL. just saying
17:46 drojf            apologies for the wording. let me rephrase
17:46 drojf            i think it would be a good idea to switch to AGPL
17:47 drojf            for us and for coral
17:49 drojf            of course they could also be using a different license if granted by the steering committe. if that is possible, i don't know details of the project structure
17:56 pianohacker      drojf: I think this was discussed a while back and voted against, let me check the mailing list
17:57 drojf            pianohacker: don't even try, or your brain will melt. i went through a gazillion meeting logs and mailing list threads and i do not think it was actually ever voted on in the end
17:57 drojf            but it is a long story for sure
17:59 drojf            but it was in a different time. so maybe it could be discussed without the shadow of the company that shall not be named
17:59 drojf            i think i took it off the agenda of a meeting because there were other important things, but i'd still ike to discuss it
17:59 drojf            *like
18:01 oleonard         I seem to recall concerns about what burden the AGPL might place on individuals or institutions using the software -- whether it was the responsibility of each to provide a copy of their code for download.
18:01 drojf            yes. slef brought that up, he was the main opponent of agpl within the koha community, as far as i could tell by the logs
18:02 drojf            with github available, i don't think that is a valid argument
18:06 oleonard         And I suppose that would only affect those who were using a modified version of the software
18:06 drojf            it was also about how much bandwidth that would use. which i do not think is valid either in 2016,, not sure if it was back then. github would be an option here too
18:07 drojf            oh sure. why would you put up mirrors of the regular koha version you use? :)
18:08 oleonard         I would have to if the AGPL demanded that I do so. I'm just trying to think it through and dredge up memory of that discussion.
18:08 drojf            it would probably be enough to share patches even, not the whole code. but i am no *gpl expert
18:08 drojf            i also don't know if it is enough to provide it on demand, but i don't think so
18:09 oleonard         Yeah there's at least one "open source" library-related software that makes you ask for the code.
18:09 oleonard         Can't remember which, but that's not cool.
18:10 drojf            oleonard: do you have real code changes locally? things like usercss, userjs etc would not require anything
18:10 slef             yeah, AIUI you can't outsource your AGPL compliance to github unless the licensor grants you an exception to that effect
18:10 oleonard         slef: I don't understand what that means.
18:10 slef             and right now I don't remember if it matters whether you have "real" code changes
18:10 drojf            interesting
18:10 wahanui          interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
18:11 slef             oleonard: in what way?
18:11 oleonard         can't outsource compliance to github? Meaning you can't post your code there and be in compliance?
18:11 slef             bingo
18:11 oleonard         It has to somehow come from your own server?
18:11 slef             not exactly
18:12 oleonard         Who the hell cares where it's hosted?
18:12 drojf            i doubt that is true. if an expection is needed, that could be given in general when the license is changed?
18:12 slef             They don't, but if github is unavailable for some reason, you're non-compliant if you don't go offline too.
18:12 slef             drojf: it could be.
18:12 drojf            slef: sorry but that last thing sounds like FUD
18:13 oleonard         By those terms Koha is in non-compliance with GPL if koha-community.org goes down
18:13 drojf            at least if you read it in a kind of "github has been down for half a day, shut down your library" way
18:13 slef             IIRC thd asked lawyers and their opinion was that it was even worse and we'd have to assure availability of not only Koha but the CPAN modules it uses... but that's all in the email list archives somewhere.
18:14 slef             oleonard: I don't see how. Now that seems like FUD.
18:14 oleonard         What's the difference?
18:14 wahanui          the difference is with the package the upgrade is more-or-less foolproof.
18:15 slef             oleonard: if koha deleted its own source code if koha-community.org went down and left only some obfuscated executable, then it would be non-compliant... but it doesn't do that and I can't see that "feature" being added
18:16 oleonard         By that logic making AGPL code available on github is just as reasonable an effort
18:18 pianohacker      @later tell dcook have you ever run into all of the elements in zebra::index being empty? (e.g., <index name="Any" type="w" seq="521"></index>) The records contain chinese if that affects anything
18:18 huginn           pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
18:19 drojf            Q:        Can the application software be running on one server and the source another?
18:19 drojf            A:    Yes.
18:20 drojf            oh that was a very old page
18:22 onre             how would a server going down make you non-compliant with a GPL license?
18:24 slef             onre: it can't easily. oleonard seems to be trying to draw some equivalence between GPL and AGPL which isn't there IMO
18:25 slef             https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2010-June/024138.html is the first of thd's detailed answers
18:26 slef             actually that one doesn't really cover what I was talking about AFAICS
18:27 * slef           keeps looking
18:30 slef             https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2010-July/024391.html "FSF has never accepted linking to an upstream version as satisfying the obligation to make the source code available"
18:33 drojf            isn't the upstream version plain koha? how would that be acceptable if you are supposed to share your changes?
18:36 oleonard         slef I'm not trying to draw equivalence, I'm trying to make analogies.
18:53 drojf            ok i will ask somebody about the sharing/github stuff
18:53 drojf            any other concerns you can remember?
18:53 drojf            slef maybe
18:54 * cait           waves
18:55 slef             let me look it up here...
19:04 cait             oleonard: lookin gat the logs - did you solve your offline circ issue? i wrote a doc about it for us last week, maybe i can help
19:04 oleonard         cait: It's working for our production site, but not in my test installation.
19:04 oleonard         I haven't investigated any further.
19:05 oleonard         cait: You have customers who use it?
19:07 oleonard         Aside from the bugs I've reported today, my primary complaint about it is that it clears the patron barcode after each checkout
19:07 oleonard         That's an easy thing to change manually, but then the plugin is unsigned and causes installation headaches.
19:08 oleonard         Not sure if that behavior is useful to others? If so it might need a preference.
19:11 cait             i wanted to advertise it a bit with the docs
19:11 cait             it was not really needed much so far :)
19:11 cait             hm not sure either, i think it might be a safety thing... so you don#t forget to switch
19:12 cait             but it#s something i wondered about today too
19:12 cait             does your patron has staff permissions?
19:12 cait             did it swtich the status when you uploaded or did jus tnothing happen?
19:12 cait             i found that sometimes you need to enter your config, close the plugin and then open it up again for it to work
19:14 cait             hm have to finish washing the dishes - brb :)
19:14 slef             drojf: that seems like the only unique issue and can be dealt with by exceptions permitting distribution of a diff and link to upstream sources and permitting non-monitoring of the upstream sources hosting; the second problem IMO is protocols like SIP where you can't communicate an offer of the Corrsponding Source but that could be handled with the same exception as libbitcoin use.
19:16 oleonard         cait: In my test system the KOCT says the status is "added," but the offline circ page in Koha says there are no pending operations.
19:18 drojf            slef: thanks for checking. i have written an email draft for the FSFE regarding 1) sharing on github 2) what if github goes down/acceptable time spans the sourc eis not available for technical reasons 3) are patches enough if the regular source is available 4) if 3, do patches have to be modified for newer versions not used by the party doing the changes, given that the version used is still available
19:19 drojf            i will read/finish that this weekend and i hope i get some feedback, links, examples
19:22 cait             oh
19:22 cait             which button did you use?
19:23 drojf            slef: what do you mean with the SIP example? source of the protocol?
19:24 cait             one does the synching immediately - i have only used the other
19:24 cait             currently in windows and the plugin is not instally.... but one ready apply... and i used the other it hink :)
19:25 oleonard         cait: I used the "commit to Koha" button.
19:25 cait             hm
19:25 cait             and they changed  status...
19:26 cait             did you checckthe db table with sql?
19:30 slef             drojf: what can FSFE add to SFLC's advice? Are you shopping between lawyers to get advice you prefer?
19:31 slef             drojf: the SIP example is that koha cannot easily offer the source code to clients who connect over SIP AFAIK
19:31 slef             drojf: and I suspect some other non-HTTP+HTML protocols would not work well for it either.
19:32 cait             oleonard: i suspect something in the config - as you aid it works with production but not with test
19:33 cait             i didn't have problems in my testing
19:33 drojf            slef: ah i see, thanks for clarifying
19:33 oleonard         slef: Why shouldn't drojf get more than one opinion?
19:33 drojf            slef: i try to get advice and examples. and those may be different than a few years ago
19:34 slef             oleonard: no reason. It's probably OK as long as FSFE is aware that SFLC have also advised.
19:34 slef             oleonard: well, it's a small waste of resources through duplication of effort but tiny on the scale of things.
19:35 slef             drojf: yeah. I think libbitcoin has happened since the last advice.
19:36 drojf            i don't see that the last advice was very clear. stuff may be like this or might be like that. or maybe it is not or it might have established some things over time
19:36 oleonard         cait: Configuration issue indeed: I was logged in at the wrong library :)
19:38 cait             aha!
19:38 cait             so the transactions were all there?
19:38 oleonard         Yes
19:39 cait             glad - that's better than a bug :)
19:39 oleonard         It doesn't make sense to do a big overhaul of the KOCT if Mozilla is about to introduce a new standard for addons.
19:40 cait             yeah
19:40 cait             i hope it won't be too hard to get something similar back
19:41 cait             when thy switch
19:58 oleonard         Bye all
20:32 cca              Hi all!  We have imported our records, and those records seem to show they are in Koha, but there are no items in the circulation.  What are we missing?  We can see the books, but we can't check them in or out.
20:33 cait             how did you import the items?
20:33 drojf            cca: koha expects item data in 952
20:33 cait             did you create a 952 marc field?
20:33 cca              staged and uploaded a mrc file.
20:34 cca              Not sure.  Where would we have created it?  The mrc file was from an old Follett system...
20:35 drojf            you will have to find out how the old system managed items
20:35 drojf            either that is in marc or somewhere else
20:36 cca              would the file tell me then?
20:36 drojf            if it is in marc you should find it in the file. mrc is not really readable though
20:37 drojf            you could ask on the mailing list if people have experience with that system. i have heard the name before but don't know it
20:37 cca              is there a way to en masse tell koha the books are in stock?
20:37 drojf            not if you want to keep the old data, like barcodes, call numbers and stuff. you should get that out of the old system
20:41 drojf            actually i don't know if you could use the batch record tool to create items if the data is in koha somewhere. but i would suspect that if the item data was in marc, it was in a custom local field and got lost during the import
20:42 cca              Ok, we had a really old system that wasn't compatible past mac os 10.4  so we exported a file from it and are trying to upload to our new system.  And we no longer have that follette software...  Would a modern marc editor be helpful?
20:42 drojf            i think so, yes
20:45 drojf            cca: http://legacyhelp.fsc.follett.com/content/library/cataloging/import_and_export/importing_holdings_information.htm
20:45 drojf            that looks like it is in 852
20:45 cabillman        we migrated off of follett years ago and I remember having similar problems
20:45 drojf            you can see what koha expects here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29#MARC21_Holding_field_.28952.29.2C_3.x_default
20:45 cca              Ok.  I'm going to try MarcEdit, and see what happens!  Thanks for all your help!
20:46 cabillman        we ended up out sourcing the marc record conversion because none of us had any experience with marc records
20:47 drojf            it's a lot to learn of you only do it once
20:48 cca              That sounds like a valid solution...  I have never looked at a mrc file in my life.
23:25 indradg          hi #koha
23:26 * indradg        wondering what to file a bug against for something in qa-test-tools
23:36 bag              heya indradg
23:36 wahanui          it has been said that indradg is the one who told me.
23:36 bag              I think mtompset had the same question indradg
23:55 indradg          bag: heh! bug 15753 filed under command-line utils. although it should prolly not go there
23:55 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15753 trivial, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , String update in the README for qa-test-tools
23:55 bag              there you go!