Time  Nick            Message
21:18 wizzyrea_       ^.^
21:18 eythian         Except dropping u's and doing s/s/z/ is still wrong.
21:17 eythian         Now they're just like English!
21:15 wizzyrea_       The Canadian equivalent of the Académie, l'Office québécois de la langue française, already recognizes the spelling reforms, but notes that neither the new spellings nor the traditional ones should be considered wrong.
21:13 wizzyrea_       nivellement par le bas = (roughly) dumbing down
21:13 wizzyrea_       also a useful phrase in french
21:11 wizzyrea_       excellent topics this morning, friends.
21:11 gmcharlt        my illusions about the absolute power of the Académie française are dashed! 26 years?!?!
21:11 eythian         Here onion is "ui", pronounced roughly "ow"
21:10 wizzyrea_       26 years!
21:10 wizzyrea_       hm, that was more than I intended to paste.
21:10 wizzyrea_       The Académie française, the council on French language that decides such things, approved the changes to about 2,400 words in 1990, but it took 26 years for them to make their way to the school system.
21:10 wizzyrea_       As well, the word "oignon" (onion) will lose its pesky and silent "i" to become "ognon." And the French word "week-end," borrowed from English, is among several that are dropping the hyphen.
21:10 wizzyrea_       Under the spelling reforms, the circumflex over i and u (or î and û) in many words will be removed. This affects words such as "goûter" (to taste), "huître" (oyster), and "août" (August).
21:10 wizzyrea_       If you happen to be writing in French about tasting oysters and onions on a weekend in August, things are about to change. Starting in September, schools in France will teach new spellings of some words in a bid to simplify the written language.
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21:09 wizzyrea_       look at how mad people got about common core math!
21:09 wizzyrea_       oh man gonna be some seriously irritated french parents helping their kids with spelling practice.
21:08 wizzyrea_       http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/trending/french-spelling-reforme-orthographe-je-suis-circonflexe-1.3433227 !!!!!!
21:05 eythian         Roughly, yes
21:05 wizzyrea_       it's just you run back and forth instead of around in a vaguely diamond pattern.
21:05 eythian         Unless you bat a 4 or 6 in which case there's no point.
21:05 wizzyrea_       YES.
21:04 eythian         Well, it's also sometimes cricket
21:04 wizzyrea_       ^.^
21:04 bag             that’s baseball wizzyrea_
21:04 * wizzyrea_     hears palms hitting foreheads around the world
21:03 wizzyrea_       hit the ball and run until you get out?
21:03 eythian         Heh. It's pretty straightforward.
21:03 wizzyrea_       and then it was over and I lost it again.
21:03 wizzyrea_       I sort of started to understand it during the cricket world cup
21:02 eythian         bag: that's like cheating 😉
21:02 wizzyrea_       cricket.
21:02 bag             which is perfect eythian (my undergrad is in ornithology)
21:02 gmcharlt        eythian: depends -- is it the seagull that's catching the ball?
21:02 bag             they are gulls :)
21:01 bag             well there are no such things as seagulls so it’s really a trick question
21:01 eythian         And how does that differ from hitting a blackbird
21:01 eythian         gmcharlt: no, you must explain what happens if a ball on bat hits a seagull and then is caught.
21:01 bag             great idea gmcharlt
21:01 bag             hahahaha!
21:00 pianohacker     (bbl doctor's appointment)
21:00 pianohacker     ESPECIALLY not nate
21:00 pianohacker     gmcharlt: If that were true, it'd be bag and amyk and not a single other soul
21:00 gmcharlt        in 50 words."
21:00 gmcharlt        ....
21:00 eythian         pianohacker: baseball is lightweight. Do cricket.
20:59 gmcharlt        ....
20:59 gmcharlt        bag: I have this image in my head that one of the interview questions at ByWater is: "Explain the infield fly rule....
20:59 wizzyrea_       it's just a big database, how hard could it be?
20:59 bag             exceptions to the exceptions as paul_p says
20:59 pianohacker     *makes spaghetti hand gestures*
20:58 wizzyrea_       ha
20:58 pianohacker     "Now, if you wanted to do something like baseball the state diagram would be WAY harder"
20:58 pianohacker     bag: I thought of you the other day, actually... was explaining state diagrams to a soccer player using a rough state diagram for soccer rules
20:57 bag             :P
20:57 bag             phew :)  didn’t want to lose the BASEBALL one ;)
20:57 wizzyrea_       TEE
20:57 wahanui         I LIKE BASEBALL!
20:57 wahanui         it's his birthday!
20:57 wizzyrea_       bag?
20:57 bag             bag?
20:56 wahanui         okay, wizzyrea_.
20:56 wizzyrea_       bag is also <reply> I LIKE BASEBALL!
20:56 wahanui         okay, eythian.
20:56 eythian         no wahanui, bag is <reply>it's his birthday!
20:56 wahanui         ...but bag is <reply> I LIKE BASEBALL...
20:56 eythian         wahanui: bag is <reply>it's his birthday!
20:53 bag             thanks!
20:53 huginn          wizzyrea_: The operation succeeded.
20:53 wizzyrea_       @later tell bag happy birthday man!
20:41 bag             thanks!
20:41 huginn          eythian: The operation succeeded.
20:41 eythian         @later tell bag happy not birthday!
20:39 huginn          bag: The operation succeeded.
20:39 bag             @later tell trea - happy birthday man!
20:27 eythian         Heh
20:26 wizzyrea_       what I really liked about the perldocs is that I can totally tell who wrote them ^.^
20:26 wizzyrea_       too right.
20:25 eythian         You can read the source 😉
20:25 wizzyrea_       yeah, I am impressed with all the things it *can* do though
20:25 wizzyrea_       it's ok, I will poke at it more
20:25 eythian         It's not a full-fledged language, so there are many cases it can't handle
20:24 wizzyrea_       I did :)
20:24 eythian         It's been a while. Did you read the perldocs?
20:21 wizzyrea_       that's more for taking a value and turning it into something else?
20:21 wizzyrea_       ifmatch doesn't seem to be quite the right thing
20:19 eythian         It's probably called concat or something
20:18 eythian         But you can combine, I'm sure
20:18 eythian         I don't think you can do it sometimes
20:17 eythian         The situations make it complicated
20:16 wizzyrea_       same columns, I mean
20:16 wizzyrea_       and there are other situations where those same fields go in different fields
20:15 wizzyrea_       well I have a situation where the librarian wants things in item type x to have columns A and B comma separated in the same marc field. I see that you can combine things, but I am failing at understanding how (well, *if* even) csvtomarc can do that
20:14 eythian         wizzyrea_: try me, I make no promises
20:13 wizzyrea_       unlike yaris, which is a car.
20:13 eythian         Yorus is an electric pronoun
20:13 wizzyrea_       do you feel like answering a question about csvtomarc eythian? it's ok if you don't
20:13 wizzyrea_       oh, I was looking for talljoy because I had a question about csvtomarc, but uh, the expert is kind of here
20:12 wizzyrea_       jeez. can't type.
20:12 wizzyrea_       i mean regarding our weather, not necessarily yorus
20:12 wizzyrea_       el nino, I guess
20:11 eythian         How
20:11 eythian         That's actually pretty cold for his it's been, though it is 9pm
20:11 wizzyrea_       niwa says it's going to be warm and settled for another month or so
20:11 wizzyrea_       there is no winning here.
20:11 eythian         Yeah
20:10 wizzyrea_       see that's too cold though ^.6
20:10 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 5.7°C (8:30 PM CET on February 04, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
20:10 eythian         @wunder ams
20:10 eythian         So I've heard
20:10 wizzyrea_       it has been so hot this week
20:10 wizzyrea_       ^ you are lucky to be missing out on this one
20:10 huginn          wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 05, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
20:10 wizzyrea_       @wunder wlg
20:10 wizzyrea_       doh
20:09 huginn          wizzyrea_: Error: No such location could be found.
20:09 wizzyrea_       @wunder Amsterdam
20:07 eythian         Amsterdam is nice.
20:07 eythian         Yeah, things are pretty good.
20:04 wizzyrea_       how are you? things going alright?
20:02 wizzyrea_       more just that it's crazy infectious
20:02 wizzyrea_       crazy catalystas.
20:02 wizzyrea_       hehe
20:02 eythian         This wouldn't be a problem if everyone wasn't licking eyeballs all the time
20:02 wizzyrea_       yeah, tmi I know
20:02 wizzyrea_       so, uh, I've been working from home
20:01 wizzyrea_       I couldn't work at all last week because it was so bad, and I was told to "stay at home or risk your whole office getting it" this week
20:01 eythian         Ug fair enough
20:01 wizzyrea_       it's almost better, I'll be back next week
20:01 wizzyrea_       I have had the worst ever pink eye, and the doctor told me to stay home
20:00 eythian         Why are you home/why does Catalyst have chickens for neighbours?
19:59 wizzyrea_       happy squawking, not alarmed squawking
19:59 wizzyrea_       the neighbours chooks are very cheerful today, squawking up a storm
19:59 * wizzyrea_     runs exactly away from that conversation
19:58 wizzyrea_       confusing might not be the word he'd use >.>
19:58 eythian         It would be very confusing for trea
19:58 wizzyrea_       later oleonard
19:58 oleonard        Bye all
19:58 oleonard        Sorry I can't stay and chat wizzyrea. I'm off.
19:57 wizzyrea_       I'm not sure the world would actually be keen on two of me
19:57 wizzyrea_       :)
19:56 eythian         Hi wizzyrea or wizzyrea_. But not both.
19:55 wizzyrea_       how is everyone today?
19:53 wizzyrea_       hi oleonard
19:52 oleonard        Hi wizzyrea and gmcharlt
19:51 gmcharlt        howdy
19:51 wizzyrea_       hi :)
19:51 gmcharlt        nor cedarly ;)
19:50 liz             clearly
19:50 liz             cldarly no ;)
19:50 liz             talljoy about?
19:33 druthb          but it knows that tomorrow is pizza friday!
19:32 oleonard        Better than what wahanui ?!
19:32 oleonard        Clever? wahanui doesn't know what day it is, and blithely tells us that Monday is better than something!
19:31 druthb          darn thing is getting clever.
19:30 * druthb        draws her knife, and watches wahanui closely.
19:30 oleonard        Now that that's settled...
19:28 wahanui         tomorrow is pizza friday! or the day after today.
19:28 oleonard        tomorrow?
19:28 wahanui         today is Friday
19:28 oleonard        today?
19:27 wahanui         Saturday is probably going to be quiet.
19:27 oleonard        Saturday?
19:27 oleonard        Sunday?
19:27 wahanui         Monday is better
19:27 oleonard        Monday?
19:27 wahanui         Tuesday is good too
19:27 oleonard        Tuesday?
19:27 wahanui         hmmm... Wednesday is fine for me
19:27 oleonard        Wednesday?
19:27 wahanui         Thursday is pizza day
19:27 oleonard        Thursday?
19:26 eythian         No wahanui, Thursday is pizza day
19:19 kidclamp        magnuse: pork sandwich with melted cheddar and maple mustard and a small cup of chicken noodle soup
19:15 * magnuse       wanders off
19:13 * magnuse       can't help wondering what kidclamp had for lunch :-)
19:12 magnuse         w00t!
19:12 wahanui         friday is pizzaday
19:12 magnuse         friday?
19:09 druthb          :)
19:05 magnuse         druthb: sounds nice though, i'll refrain from further nitpicking :-)
18:59 cait            hm getting hungry now
18:54 druthb          But very tasty.
18:54 druthb          Fair 'nuf.  Billed as pizza, and uses a pizza sauce.  But no bread on top, so open-faced.
18:54 * magnuse       is not sure he can wait until after summer for the marseille cheese lunch...
18:53 magnuse         then i would seriously question if it can be called pizza, or if it is a hot cheese sandwich or something similar ;-)
18:52 magnuse         druthb: bread for the base?
18:48 druthb          cait:  ?
18:48 druthb          Mine was pretty tasty.  I cheated, though--these were on the recipe to use French bread for the base, but I used some lil loaves of Mexican bread from the market.  Sausage, mushrooms, olives, tomatoes, lotsa cheese.
18:47 cait            ?
18:46 druthb          :)
18:46 * magnuse       likes pizza
18:43 * druthb        is disappointed.
18:43 druthb          tsk.
18:41 * bag           shakes his head :P
18:41 druthb          I know.  I'm old, but memory is the *second* thing to go when you get old.
18:40 bag             magnuse and I have been knuckling for years!  :)
18:40 druthb          :P
18:40 bag             huh? why would you shake your head at me?
18:39 druthb          You were on my mind last night, magnuse...made pizza. :)
18:39 * druthb        waves to magnuse.
18:39 * druthb        looks at bag, and then just shakes her head.
18:32 * magnuse       knuckles back
18:31 * bag           knuckles
18:31 * magnuse       waves
18:31 gaetan_B        bye
17:49 cait            have fun :)
17:46 NorbertDD       okay, thx :) so i go home - the barcode scanner is coming today :)
17:45 cait            hm possibly only a translation error, i will have a look
17:44 cait            i will switch from enh to minor - making it a bug instead of a feature :)
17:43 huginn          04Bug 15744: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , GlobalSys: UsageStatsLibraryType German Text 2x "Firmenbibliothek"
17:43 NorbertDD       cait... https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15744 ich hoffe ich habe meinen ersten Bug richtig angelegt
17:40 NorbertDD       okay thx, now koha have one germany privat instance more :)
17:39 tcohen          NorbertDD: Germany I presume
17:16 NorbertDD       Hey, UsageStatsCountry Germany or Deutschland?
16:43 onre            this causes a lot of requests
16:43 onre            looking at my SRU source's logs, Koha is asking for SRU records like this: first, ask with maximumRecords 0 to find out total number, then query them one by one with maximumRecords 1 and incrementing startRecord
16:36 Joubu           bye #koha
16:02 pianohacker     yo
15:19 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15736 major, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add a preference to control whether all items should be shown in checked-in items list
15:19 kidclamp        oleonard:bug 15736
14:41 drojf           gotta go, later #koha
14:31 cait            oleonard: lol
14:26 drojf           heh
14:21 oleonard        My "last seen before" report omitted items which had *never* been seen, which is why "Official Netscape Navigator 2.0 book" is still in Koha.
14:07 drojf           +1 for koha-us meeting in canada :D
13:31 cait            alex_a++
13:14 alex_a          lds: :)
13:13 lds             alex_a: and dont forget hello madame
13:12 lds             alex_a: your welcome
13:12 alex_a          thanks lds
13:12 drojf           alex_a++
13:11 huginn          alex_a: I suck
13:11 alex_a          @all: All biblibre's sandboxes are fixed with the new template-stash-autoescaping dependency
13:11 cait            jajm++ liw++ :)
13:08 magnuse         jajm++
13:07 liw             oh, what jajm said
13:06 liw             I can recommend joining the Debian Perl module packaging team and co-ordinating packaging efforts with them; they have Debian developers who sponsor uploads to Debian proper, which helps everyone
13:06 oleonard        jajm++
13:05 jajm            it's not in Debian yet, but should be soon. if anyone want to help, join the pkg-perl group and see what has to be done here https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-perl/packages/libtemplate-stash-autoescaping-perl.git/tree/debian/changelog
13:04 andreashm       alex_a++
13:03 drojf           jajm has uploaded it i think
13:03 drojf           if only we had a workshop about that :P
13:02 liw             does Koha have a friendly Debian developer to package and upload missing dependencies to Debian?
13:02 andreashm       drojf++
12:59 magnuse         drojf++
12:57 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC
12:56 oleonard        andreashm: drojf just attached a package to Bug 13618
12:53 andreashm       apparently the sandbox problem has to do with a new dependency that has no debian package. now I seem to have the same issue with my kohadevbox. any help on how to solve this? would be appreciated.
12:46 andreashm       hi oleonard
12:46 oleonard        HI #koha
12:41 andreashm       (I could be doing something wrong I guess)
12:41 andreashm       can't apply patches
12:40 andreashm       yup
12:40 alex_a          andreashm: What is the error on biblibre sandboxes ?
12:40 andreashm       thanks cait! cait++
12:37 Joubu           This has been done by alex_a on BibLibre's sandboxes I guess
12:37 andreashm       a that was it
12:37 cait            because bugs is only https now
12:37 cait            it's in the instructions on the wiki now i think
12:36 cait            yes, you need to change your git bz config
12:36 andreashm       because now that doesn't seem to work
12:35 andreashm       didn't I read somewhere that there was changes made that you would need to update git bz?
12:27 andreashm       Humm... I guess this means that I really need to solve my problem with reindexing Zebra so I can use my kohadevbox again.
12:26 andreashm       I can't get them to work at all. both biblibre and ptfs.
12:25 andreashm       can try another I guess
12:24 andreashm       don't know, I have only tried one patch. (on several of the sandboxes)
12:22 cait            hm someone reported a problem yesterday too i think - are they not working at all or patches don't apply?
12:18 andreashm       pfff, why cant I seem to get the sandboxes to work? bah.
12:01 cait            sorry
12:00 cait            but not all.... becasue you might allow pick-up at another branch or something like that?
12:00 Joubu           I will try to identify the issues
12:00 Joubu           k
11:59 cait            it seems like independent branches should hide a lot of the branch selections...
11:58 cait            don't have an anser i think right now
11:58 cait            hm yeah
11:58 Joubu           the problem is that I don't manage to identify the bug and the feature...
11:57 Joubu           and I am trying to normalise that
11:57 Joubu           actually there are 10 different ways to display the libraries
11:56 Joubu           unless there is a if ( $indbranch ) just above
11:56 Joubu           if it's not given, all the libraries will be displayed
11:55 Joubu           C4::Branch::GetBranches for instance, takes a "onlymine" parameter
11:55 Joubu           moving them to Koha::Libraries
11:55 cait            hm?
11:55 Joubu           cait: actually I am remove subroutines from C4::Branch
11:55 cait            i am trying to separate currencies currently and move them to acq
11:54 cait            in general we shoudl have separate permissions for the admin areas tho
11:54 Joubu           cait: because it reuses an existing script I guess
11:54 cait            maybe circulation conditions etc coudl be separated .... but i'd push that to the back and fix other problems first
11:54 cait            hm i think admins is harder, because you need admins that can access everything in a global system...
11:53 cait            Joubu: another thing for the sbuscription order search... why do we show the other subscription that you can't order from because you are at the wrong vendor - shoudl at least show the vendor you can order it from instead :)
11:53 Joubu           cait: and what about the admin module?
11:52 cait            intrdocuing a super* permission for acq might be a possibl way to fix without changing behaviour
11:52 cait            or actually change any data of another library
11:51 cait            you should not be able to order other libraries subscriptions
11:51 cait            i thin if indepenent branches on and you don't hae the super* or all* permission
11:51 cait            reading back
11:50 Joubu           cait maybe?
11:50 Joubu           heh, yes
11:49 drojf           it's really hard to tell. with koha, it seems like every bug is a feature to someone
11:48 drojf           for the use cases i would have had lately, real separation would have been good in all areas, but allow search in opac and lending between branches. but i am sure others use the way it is for their workflow and want to keep oit
11:46 Joubu           for instance, if you have the permission to change things in the admin area, should you be able to change everything?
11:46 drojf           i think what is promised (and not working 100% either) is separation of all things related to user accounts. don't see accounts, don't see borrowing history and similar things from other branches
11:45 drojf           Joubu: i can't really say for the aqc module. i think it is not promised to have real separation in acq, but it woul dcertainly be desirable
11:44 Joubu           Is it as simple as "if the loggedin user is not superlibrarian, she/he cannot see any infos from other libraries"
11:43 Joubu           drojf: I am not sure to know what are the expected behaviors actually
11:43 Joubu           I am able to search for subscriptions from another library and create an order with it
11:41 drojf           it would be really good to have that working in a reliable way
11:40 drojf           indbranches has a lot of problems :(
11:39 Joubu           I am able to search for invoices from another library
11:37 Joubu           hum no, that's not the current behavior
11:33 drojf           i would not expect that
11:31 Joubu           In the acq module, with indbranch set to prevent and logged in with a non-superlibrarian user, I can change the delivery/billing places of a basket. Is it the expected behavior or a bug?
11:22 lds             andreashm: hi
11:22 andreashm       hi lds
11:20 lds             hello
11:19 andreashm       hi drojf
11:19 drojf           hi andreashm
11:19 * andreashm     waves
11:10 drojf           i can't reproduce the bug(s) related to audio alerts. i dont get an error (nor an audio alert). is it supposed to work with the default alerts or do i have to add something special?
11:09 drojf           meh
11:09 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 3.0°C (11:50 AM CET on February 04, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
11:09 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
11:09 drojf           general strike in greece. i hope they sort it out until kohacon ;)
11:05 cait            it snowed this morning on my way to work
11:05 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 3.0°C (11:50 AM CET on February 04, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Falling).
11:05 cait            @wunder Konstanz
10:36 kidclamp        yeah, ask oleonard to weigh in, I think he also was bothered as much as I was
10:32 cait            both are valid
10:32 cait            :)
10:30 * Joubu         likes explicit
10:24 * cait          likes short :)
10:24 kidclamp        that's the shortest so far :-)
10:23 cait            hm
10:23 wahanui         display is probably broken in a lot of places
10:23 cait            Display...
10:23 cait            ShowAllCheckins?
10:23 kidclamp        yeah
10:22 cait            showing not checked out in returns table...?
10:22 cait            hm
10:22 Joubu           kidclamp: I am terrible at naming stuffs too, pref especially, that's why I have asked you :)
10:22 cait            moin drojf
10:22 drojf           hi #koha
10:21 Joubu           ok marked 15733 as a dup
10:21 kidclamp        but 15736 my thoughts would be 'HideItemsNotCheckedIn' or 'DisplayAllItemScannedAtCheckin'
10:20 kidclamp        I opened 1 with 2 issues, he opened 2 with 1 issues (but neglected to close mine)
10:20 kidclamp        and 15736 - I am terrible at naming things, so I would ask oleonard
10:20 Joubu           :)
10:20 Joubu           why did you open 2 bug reports? :à
10:20 Joubu           erk, have not seen it
10:19 kidclamp        so now you have competing patches
10:19 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15733 normal, P3, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Audio Alerts issues in master
10:19 kidclamp        Bug 15733 - Kyle actually split it in to 15734 and 15735
10:19 Joubu           I am :)
10:19 cait            just kidding :)
10:19 kidclamp        and wanted to see if he was around
10:18 kidclamp        I had to bug Joubu about stuff, you were just not going to get bothered :p
10:18 cait            hi kidclamp :)
10:18 kidclamp        Hi cait
10:18 * cait          feels ignored :P
10:18 kidclamp        Hi Joubu
09:45 cait            hm no marcelr
09:16 reiveune        hello
08:42 cait            you'd need to ask more of a sysadmin person
08:42 reza_           np ;)
08:42 cait            I am not sure, sorry
08:41 reza_           how can I figure it out
08:41 cait            i'd work out why the opac is not reachable first
08:41 cait            eah i think you ahve another deeper problem
08:40 reza_           at process_message_queue.pl line 66.
08:40 reza_           connect to localhost failed (Connection refused) no (more) retries!
08:40 reza_           connect to localhost failed
08:40 reza_           connect to localhost failed (Connection refused)
08:40 reza_           but now i'm getting a different error
08:40 reza_           thats true
08:39 cait            so the paths are different for each
08:39 cait            it's different in the packages because you can have multiple instances of koha running on the same codebase
08:39 reza_           oh, I was running the manual cron on 3.10. so it's different in new koha.
08:38 cait            because it will set up the right environment variables for you - which is wat the error is about
08:37 cait            if you want to run the cronjobs manually, you shoudl use the koha-shell then
08:37 cait            ok
08:37 reza_           package
08:37 cait            how did you install koha?
08:34 reza_           and at the end of it: Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Database.pm line 56.
08:34 reza_           and I'm getting this error: unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 346
08:34 reza_           now I have tried to run the message queue cron job
08:31 cait            hm, usually it should work without having to do anything - and show a maintenance message until you are done I think
08:29 reza_           koha-upgrade-schema is done now. I can login to the admin but in the opac site I'm getting unavailable error. should I change any setting after upgrade?
08:28 Francesca       hows it going :)
08:28 cait            hi Francesca :)
08:25 Francesca       hi
08:23 cait            morning #koha
08:10 gaetan_B        hello
08:10 June            is there any KOHA training for developers and librarian that we can attend to have more understanding of it.
08:06 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 04, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.21 in 989 hPa (Rising).
08:06 magnuse         @wunder boo
08:04 wahanui         what's up, Joubu
08:04 Joubu           hi
07:56 wahanui         what's up, alex_a
07:56 alex_a          bonjour
07:49 * magnuse       waves
07:47 June            :)
07:46 wahanui         what's up, June
07:46 June            Hello
07:43 pastebot        "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "index" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/293
07:42 mtj             you should have some isbn/issn indexes, showing
07:41 mtj             mysql> show index from biblioitems;
07:41 reza_           Upgrade to 3.19.00.005 done
07:40 reza_           OK thanks, still processing my DB
07:40 mtj             i think after your isbn/issn errors, some new indexes were added
07:39 mtj             reza_:  you are probably OK, with those 3 errors
05:55 reza_           "] at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 8847.
05:55 reza_           INSERT INTO systempreferences (variable,value) VALUES('OpacCustomSearch','');
05:55 reza_           DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate entry 'OpacCustomSearch' for key 'PRIMARY' [for Statement "
05:55 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10195 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, CLOSED FIXED, Records hidden with OpacSuppression can still be accessed
05:55 reza_           DBD::mysql::db do failed: Can't DROP 'issn'; check that column/key exists [for Statement "ALTER TABLE biblioitems DROP INDEX issn"] at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 8467.
05:55 reza_           DBD::mysql::db do failed: Can't DROP 'isbn'; check that column/key exists [for Statement "ALTER TABLE biblioitems DROP INDEX isbn"] at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 8466.
05:55 reza_           Upgrade to 3.15.00.048 done (Bug 10195: Records hidden with OpacSuppression can still be accessed)
05:49 mtj             reza_: can you pastebin ?
05:33 reza_           I'm getting some duplicate entry fail during the schema upgrade. is that OK?
05:32 reza_           I'm using 3.10.x
05:31 Francesca       but this is like melting kind of heat
05:31 Francesca       I know its summer and everything
05:30 mtj             Francesca: i know, hey!
05:30 huginn          Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 23.0°C (6:00 PM NZDT on February 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
05:30 Francesca       @wunder wlg
05:30 Francesca       sooooo hot
05:30 mtj             (for those that missed it)
05:29 mtj             ..i think this might be my fav. linuxconf talk, ever
05:29 mtj             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Twl2mQAh6g
05:27 mtj             rangi: interesting.. i bet :)
05:23 mtj             s/you/your/
05:22 mtj             reza_: what version is you old koha?, (just curious)
05:21 mtj             ... are you running it?
05:21 reza_           :)
05:20 reza_           thank you guys mtj, onre and rangi
05:20 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15035 is not accessible.
05:20 mtj             i was going to ask uou about bug 15035
05:20 mtj             dcook, abouty?
05:18 reza_           with lots of issues
05:18 reza_           I have an old koha running with 11k users
05:17 reza_           phew
05:16 mtj             reza_:  there is nothing more to do :)
05:13 reza_           oh, thanks.
05:12 reza_           and one more thing is I'm installing this new koha for and old version dumped database. besides kohaeupgrade-schema instancename     what shall i do?
05:12 mtj             reza_: ..thats a handy command, for apache site debugging
05:12 mtj             $ sudo apachectl -S
05:11 mtj             no ^
05:11 reza_           do i have to enable it every time I reboot?
05:11 reza_           but i have enabled it!!!
05:11 reza_           aaaaaaaaa
05:11 reza_           OMG, it was not enabled
05:09 rangi           it wont do anything if it is already enabled
05:09 rangi           try koha-enable instancename
05:09 rangi           reza_: no
05:09 rangi           mtj: yep, interesting conference
05:08 reza_           still getting the error. besides apache virtual host, is there any other settings that I need to change
05:08 reza_           to check if the intra side works or not
05:08 rangi           yeah its something with your virtual host settings, or your dns/hosts
05:07 reza_           i have commented the opac settings in the instance apache settings
05:07 reza_           that works
05:07 reza_           yes
05:05 rangi           and its apache/dns
05:05 rangi           your config is fine
05:04 rangi           if that works
05:04 rangi           sudo koha-mysql instancename
05:04 rangi           easy test
05:04 onre            have you made sure that the specified user can actually connect to the remote mysql instance?
05:04 reza_           yeah. I have edited that.
05:04 rangi           as long as it's ther right koha-conf.xml (under /etc/koha/sites/<your instance name>/
05:04 reza_           so I guess my problem is not a database connection since all the settings are correct. It might be the apache config file.
05:03 rangi           thats all
05:02 reza_           besides koha-conf.xml
05:01 reza_           if I just want to point the koha to a new remote database (which contain a dump of local) how many files should I edit for database connection info?
05:01 mtj             hiya rangi, i hope you are having fun over there :0)
04:58 mtj             onre: yes... perhaps a DBI error  ^
04:56 onre            would there be a different message if koha was unable to access the database?
04:55 rangi           or you ran koha-disable (in which case you need to run koha-enable) but most likely its a dns/apache thing
04:55 rangi           and that you are seeing the opac at both sites
04:54 rangi           sounds like you have a problem with your apache config
04:51 reza_           I cannot access to the web installer as well. same issue...
04:17 * rangi         goes back to his conference
04:16 rangi           you will get that message on the opac because you havent run the webinstaller yet on the staff interface
04:14 rangi           also, you are on the time of the day when 90% of the people are asleep, thats why the mailing list is probably a better place to ask that kind of question
04:13 rangi           go to the staff interface reza_
04:11 reza_           I'm here for two days and no one is helping :(
04:09 reza_           The Koha site you are trying to access is currently unavailable, probably because of maintenance. This is not at all your fault, and we apologize for any inconvenience the downtime may cause you. Please check back in a while. We hope to get things back up soon.
04:09 reza_           Sorry!
04:09 reza_           I'm installing a fresh koha with remote database server. all the settings seems correct but i'm getting unavailable
04:08 reza_           now I have a problem with my Koha. is anyone here to help?
04:07 reza_           Then you can run sudo ifup eth0:0 to bring it up
04:07 circ-user-GVMrv thank
04:07 circ-user-GVMrv ok
04:06 reza_           netmask 255.255.254.0
04:06 reza_           address fff.fff.fff.fff
04:06 reza_           iface eth0:0 inet static
04:06 reza_           auto eth0:0
04:06 reza_           dns-search vps-number.com
04:06 reza_           dns-nameservers ccc.ccc.ccc.ccc ddd.ddd.ddd.ddd eee.eee.eee.eee
04:06 reza_           gateway bbb.bbb.bbb.bbb
04:06 reza_           netmask 255.255.254.0
04:06 reza_           address aaa.aaa.aaa.aaa
04:06 reza_           iface eth0 inet static
04:06 reza_           auto eth0
04:06 reza_           iface lo inet loopback
04:06 reza_           auto lo
04:06 wahanui         reza_: that doesn't look right
04:06 reza_           change the addresses to your ones. but if you want to have a local and one public ip address follow this example:
04:05 circ-user-GVMrv do its work for you ?
04:04 reza_           that is just an example
04:02 circ-user-GVMrv since our static from isp is different from our local
04:02 reza_           and add your name server
04:02 wahanui         i think local is good though.. has it's benefits over remote..
04:02 circ-user-GVMrv how about local
04:02 circ-user-GVMrv i can access koha from intenet only
04:02 circ-user-GVMrv but if i set ip on tis
04:02 reza_           for DNS settings edit the file /etc/resolv.conf
04:02 circ-user-GVMrv i see
04:01 reza_           :D
04:01 reza_           example
04:01 reza_           gateway 192.0.2.254
04:01 reza_           netmask 255.255.255.0
04:01 reza_           address 192.0.2.7
04:01 reza_           iface eth0 inet static
04:01 reza_           auto eth0
04:01 reza_           if you are using eth0 follow this:
04:00 reza_           edit /etc/network/interdaces
03:59 reza_           for details on how to assign IP address on debian look at  man interfaces
03:59 circ-user-GVMrv yes
03:59 wahanui         i heard intranet was completly unusable with it
03:59 circ-user-GVMrv intranet
03:58 circ-user-GVMrv currenly we can access from local
03:58 circ-user-GVMrv debian
03:58 circ-user-GVMrv cos i am new to koha
03:58 reza_           what OS are you using?
03:58 circ-user-GVMrv ?
03:58 circ-user-GVMrv how can i assign
03:58 circ-user-GVMrv not yet
03:58 reza_           did you assign your static IP address to the server?
03:58 circ-user-GVMrv i want to acess from ip not from domain
03:57 circ-user-GVMrv i have an ip address from ISP
03:57 circ-user-GVMrv yes
03:57 reza_           only IP address?
03:57 reza_           you don't want to use any domain name?
03:56 circ-user-GVMrv in order to allow any one access from out side
03:56 circ-user-GVMrv so anyone can help me how to host koha
03:56 circ-user-GVMrv and i have a static ip from ISP
03:55 circ-user-GVMrv i have install koha on my local
03:55 circ-user-GVMrv hello
02:35 reza_           https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Instance_Creation
02:35 reza_           even here:
02:35 reza_           all the installation instructions are assuming that I am installing on a local MySQL
02:29 reza_           anyone to help?
02:29 reza_           there is nothing on the net about installing Koha with a separate database server...
02:28 reza_           I don't really understand the steps! I have to remove the koha-common.cnf and replace it with my.cnf???!!!
02:28 reza_           it says if I am running MySQL sever on another server I have to follow three steps
02:27 reza_           I am installing a fresh Koha and following the instruction here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian#Create_a_Koha_instance
00:22 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15684: Fix encoding issues with quote upload <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59fc32531071e3d4594a8b5555acd41a17921de3>