Time  Nick         Message
00:43 dcook        Interesting... the CSV export on the inventory in 3.8 is a mix of latin1 and utf8...
00:45 rangi        most likely your data is a mix of latin1 and utf8
00:45 dcook        Hmm
00:45 dcook        I'm not sure about that
00:45 dcook        The title is utf8, but some of the other content in the CSV is latin1
00:46 rangi        yep
00:46 dcook        like itemnumber
00:46 dcook        So yes, I mean, I agree, haha
00:46 rangi        :)
00:46 dcook        I meant the record is probably in utf8, although yeah it looks like a different record is in latin1
00:46 dcook        So reading the file as utf8 shows the Arabic but breaks the "French"
00:47 rangi        yeah, basically it will store what we give it, I dont think we try to do conversions on export .. at least I hope we don't therein lies madness
00:47 dcook        Hmm but a CSV export can be in utf8 apparently so that might take care of most of it..
00:47 dcook        True that
00:48 dcook        I'm guess that latin1 record must've been inserted directly into the DB..
00:49 dcook        I'm surprised that the itemnumber and such are in latin1 as those should be utf8, although someone may have messed with that db and it's an older db..
00:52 dcook        Actually I have no idea what numbers are being output in this..
00:53 rangi        yeah I think the older the db, the more likely it's in some kinda halfway state
00:53 dcook        Totally :/
00:53 rangi        in unrelated news
00:54 rangi        im going to be in australia for about 2 weeks, starting on sunday
00:54 rangi        in geelong until the next saturday, then in melbourne until friday
00:54 rangi        (LCA then VALA)
00:55 dcook        Nice! I wanted to go to LCA, but not leaving Sydney at the moment.
00:55 rangi        fair enough
00:55 dcook        Two people from our parent ed group have already had babies, so it's really any day now, even though they shouldn't come until March
00:56 rangi        yeah kahu was 5 weeks early
00:56 dcook        Was he your oldest or youngest?
00:57 rangi        oldest
00:57 dcook        Oh wow. That's interesting!
00:57 dcook        Statistically, Stormy is going to be late, but you never know..
00:57 rangi        *nod*
00:57 dcook        One baby was 10 weeks early and the other... 5 I think
00:58 dcook        I guess it means I should hurry up with this OAI stuff :p
00:58 rangi        hehe
00:58 dcook        Lots I would change about it, but hopefully it'll be functioning and testable within the next couple weeks
00:59 bag          heh go go :)
00:59 dcook        Ahhh, we made the CSV export UTF8 in a later version
00:59 bag          I’ll leave bug 8753 for another day and more testing
00:59 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, charles.farmer, Passed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC
01:00 * dcook      will be stoked when forgotten password recovery is in Koha
01:00 bag          soon very soon - I’m hoping to push that tomorrow
01:00 dcook        :)
01:05 dcook        rangi: Ah, it was because of the default binmode being latin1.
01:06 rangi        ahh yeah that makes sense
01:06 dcook        Yep
01:07 dcook        Of course, Excel still reads it as latin1 by default even when it's UTF8.
01:07 dcook        Microsoft--
01:07 rangi        the hardest thing about any migration is convincing the librarians not to open files in excel before they send them
01:07 dcook        Soo true
01:07 rangi        it just wrecks everything
01:08 dcook        I want to say it autosaves, yeah?
01:08 dcook        Maybe not..
01:08 rangi        it might not, but they often 'fix' the column headings or something
01:08 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15188: Do not remove unused auths if zebra is not reachable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a60943bc1b28696459ea5a28df9874083b9f0966> / Bug 15188 - Fixes remove_unused_authorities.pl will delete all authorities if zebra... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=128e7f54b17501ee43614aa8f8c50c3789921f08> / Bug 15530 - Editing a course item via a disabled course d
01:08 dcook        Yeah, I've had that happen before
01:08 dcook        Bit of a headache until you realize they used Excel
01:09 rangi        dates get munched, multilines messed up
01:09 rangi        etc
01:09 rangi        yeah
01:09 dcook        My favourite is barcodes which get transformed into scientific notation
01:09 dcook        "My barcodes look funny..."
01:09 dcook        Yes, yes they do
01:10 rangi        heh
01:18 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15398: Hide Staff members only in the patron deletion/anonymization tool <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f0cdee69b670f1c49693198e335deb26470d961> / Bug 15626: Remove log4perl.conf when using koha-remove <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d3eb52edabaceb731b27f8e25a6324579c2c9e1> / Bug 12045 - Transfer impossible if barcode includes spaces <http://git.koha-
01:45 dcook        Mmm, it's because Microsoft expects a BOM...
01:45 dcook        And works with one..
01:48 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15391: Fix HoldsQueue.t tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b340d1f5bd02e1ddb535db13e321e6b07a166725>
01:57 * Francesca  waves
01:58 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15357: Display existing holds even if no items exist <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e4b703d239551207ca72c5b201475418c7cfd9c>
02:08 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15299: Ask for confirmation when deleting a report from second page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dcce65c8fd6f6d4963a3dd0e8b73a79548a2aa8b>
02:18 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15135: Remove Warning Subroutine HasOverdues redefined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=560bc790db6d3f8f2ff6b4e70db148445ff645e4> / Bug 15209: Check the parameter at the beginning of the subroutines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=372881ebfd5552ecb83450c7afea6a76f2df1a0b> / Bug 15209: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdif
02:28 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13177: Accidental copy/paste error fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eacbfb2069b155af80ef88473c46bfc130c6c070> / Bug 13177: Help page for Rotating Collections <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9e5aee1b66be893354733b6710b1df1b04edeb1> / Bug 14015 - Checkout: Fix software error if barcode '0' is given <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=co
02:39 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6322 - It's possible to view lists/virtualshelves even when virtualshelves is off <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2923cfdff4466efed55dd3d3dbee8ba37f6ff882> / Bug 9754: koha-remove optionally includes var/lib and var/spool <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d99fa026bb05225df93e56740456ba185a5937d>
02:49 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15592 - spelling mistake in ~/Koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/p./plugins/plugins... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=70086f1681155d8e63c9ee1b149c3f812df8f125> / Bug 15609 - spelling mistake in :692: writen ==> written <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f37ce198feae78b82b751f1c3d682010b4db0305> / Bug 2669: Change checkboxes to radio buttons on dictionary <http:/
02:59 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15476: Listname not always displayed in shelves.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df13a5d3e7727f6a7db67aac618fb85c135b2723> / Bug 15553: [QA Follow-up] Replace hardcoded tmp and add instance to dirname <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4934b2dab427da4304913b3f0f26e0a24606896> / Bug 15553 - [SIGNED-OFF] cgisess_ files polluting the /tmp directory <http://
03:01 rangi        yay for 15553
03:01 rangi        that was an annoying one
03:03 dcook        bug 15553
03:03 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15553 minor, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Pushed to Master , cgisess_ files polluting the /tmp directory
03:03 bag          yeah :)
03:04 bag          liked that one when I saw it
03:04 bag          ok I’m going to go grab some grub and then be back to work some more.  thinking it will be a long night and then just sleep in :)
03:15 bag          Order a 36 day agred ribeye - should be ready in 25 minutes
03:16 bag          yummy
03:16 bag          let’s see what gets pushed after that sucker
03:16 bag          heh
03:17 rangi        :)
03:30 bag          bug 15468
03:30 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15468 minor, P5 - low, ---, chloealabaster, Passed QA , Search links on callnumbers with parentheses fails on OPAC results page
03:30 bag          I feel like that’s been around forevs - glad it’s doing something now
03:31 rangi        yep
03:32 bag          I see some of these simple patches and I’m like damn that’s awesome and easy :)  love it
03:33 * Francesca  waves at the bug fixers
03:33 bag          heya Francesca
03:33 wahanui      it has been said that Francesca is a junior developer with koha (suprise)
03:33 Francesca    hows the bug fixing going?
03:33 bag          ah I’m just testing and pushing :)
03:34 Francesca    hows the bug testing and fixing going?
03:34 bag          well so far :)
03:35 * Francesca  has bugs to fix also
03:36 Francesca    I'll do it tomorrow when I'm back at work
03:39 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15468 - Search links on callnumbers with parentheses fails on OPAC results page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d9a75014e1f1ef7dc84a3d14643271658eacc2e>
03:59 drojf        morning
04:01 drojf        not sure if 5 counts as morning.
04:01 bag          mornind drojf - it does to me :)
04:02 bag          ahhh!!! morning*  heh
04:02 dcook        Almost 5 here!
04:02 dcook        @wunder syd
04:02 huginn`      dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 25.0°C (2:30 PM AEDT on January 27, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
04:02 drojf        hi bag and dcook
04:02 dcook        hey drojf :)
04:03 bag          dcook: 5?
04:03 wahanui      5 is probably there already? it iddn't show me that there was an update ts
04:03 bag          oh! wait I get it
04:03 bag          1700
04:03 drojf        oh dcook, still planning february to finish oai-pmh? :)
04:03 dcook        :D
04:03 dcook        drojf: Yeah, hopefully
04:03 drojf        woohoo :)
04:03 dcook        I'm working on the web UI at the moment
04:03 bag          I heard dcook is planning the 29th for completion
04:03 dcook        :p
04:03 drojf        heh
04:04 bag          dcook?
04:04 wahanui      dcook is currently out of line.
04:04 dcook        hehe
04:04 bag          dcook?
04:04 wahanui      hmmm... dcook is Sisyphus
04:04 dcook        Also true..
04:04 bag          dcook?
04:04 wahanui      dcook is a zebra expert now
04:04 dcook        haha
04:04 bag          dcook?
04:04 wahanui      dcook is a zebra expert now
04:04 bag          ah I found the end
04:04 dcook        All sounds about right
04:04 dcook        But yeah, working on the web UI now
04:04 dcook        Still have some changes to make to the new import API..
04:04 dcook        Polishing up the daemon..
04:04 dcook        Recording a list of things I want to improve/change in the future
04:05 bag          I’m looking forward to the import API
04:05 bag          do you have a bug number ?
04:05 dcook        It'll probably be the least nice thing
04:05 dcook        bug 10662 is a catch all at the moment
04:05 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, In Discussion , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
04:05 dcook        Although bug 15555 and bug 15541 are prerequisites for the import
04:05 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15555 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Index 024$a into Identifier-other:u url register when source $2 is uri
04:05 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Prevent normalization during matching/import process
04:06 dcook        The project has become lots of projects really..
04:06 dcook        Wrote a job server to handle the downloading/importing tasks
04:06 dcook        Writing an import API for OAI-PMH records specifically
04:06 dcook        I feel like there's something else I'm forgetting...
04:07 dcook        Web UI so that you can interact with the job server from Koha
04:07 dcook        Maybe down the track we'll replace the job server with something else than what I've written
04:07 dcook        But it works
04:07 wahanui      For now...
04:07 dcook        :p
04:08 bag          I read somewhere that you (dcook) had originally wrote a reports database/clearinghouse sort of thing when you first started.  Is that code anywhere to view?
04:08 bag          I asked pianohacker to write one of those things for us.  I think maybe he worked on it - I forget
04:09 dcook        bag: The code I wrote is positively awful :p
04:09 bag          either way - I love the idea dcook
04:09 bag          well all code has pros and cons dcook
04:09 dcook        True true
04:09 dcook        I didn't really know what I was doing back then. It was my first paid programming project, and it shows..
04:09 dcook        It's all written in PHP, so doesn't really fit with Koha so well
04:09 bag          deal - I’ll still love you afterwards :)
04:10 bag          dcook++
04:10 dcook        Wha?
04:10 wahanui      Wha are you playing?
04:10 * dcook      is confused
04:10 bag          the idea is perfect.  we definely need something like that
04:10 dcook        Are you thinking globally or locally?
04:10 dcook        For us, we basically have a "reference" Koha which was filled with curated reports
04:11 bag          (even if you showed me “bad” code) I’ll still love you afterwards :)
04:11 dcook        Then the PHP interface had read access to that Koha's saved sql, and it allowed you to copy a report into your own local Koha
04:11 dcook        Ahh, fair enough :p
04:11 bag          :P
04:11 dcook        So the idea only works if all the Koha instances are on the same database
04:11 dcook        server
04:11 bag          I think both locally and globally
04:11 dcook        Although you could point it somewhere else..
04:12 dcook        We could do the same thing centrally
04:12 dcook        And use the REST API really
04:12 bag          yes
04:12 dcook        Although..
04:12 wahanui      although is mine 2.3.2 or 2.3.3
04:13 bag          ha wahanui
04:13 dcook        It would be a bit of a pain to fetch all that data via the API without knowing that you want any of it
04:13 dcook        I mean... reports tend to be pretty light so maybe it wouldn't be a big deal
04:13 bag          yes
04:14 bag          the trick is duplicates if we’re talking globablly
04:14 dcook        Yeah, I really liked Liz's idea of upvote/downvote
04:14 dcook        So in theory duplicates could be downvoted or just wouldn't be upvoted
04:14 bag          that’s a good point
04:14 dcook        And a curator could pick through too if necessary
04:15 dcook        We could have a "marked as duplicate" flag
04:15 dcook        "marked as obscene" flag... :p
04:15 bag          :P
04:15 dcook        Well, maybe a counter rather than flag
04:15 dcook        Or sutin
04:16 dcook        But yeah I don't know if anyone uses our reports database anymore
04:16 dcook        We made a bit of a push for it back in 2012, but...
04:16 bag          dcook did you ever met ian walls?
04:16 dcook        A global one would be nice
04:16 dcook        Nopes. I've heard the name though.
04:16 bag          @seen sekjal
04:16 huginn`      bag: sekjal was last seen in #koha 1 year, 19 weeks, 4 days, 5 hours, 22 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <sekjal> :)
04:16 dcook        I think maybe we talked once or twice back in the day
04:16 bag          cool - he’s good people
04:17 dcook        Did he ramble as much as I do? :p
04:17 * dcook      should add "rambler" to his IRC regular description
04:17 drojf        @later tell nengard fixed
04:17 huginn`      drojf: The operation succeeded.
04:17 bag          no - he had great ideas - that’s what I saw
04:18 dcook        Ahhh, great ideas are good
04:18 drojf        dcook: the harvester sounds like a huge project, i hope stockholm pays you millions :D
04:18 bag          yes I agree - millions :)
04:18 drojf        i'm very happy to have that in koha
04:18 bag          then donate to the international koha fund
04:19 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15444 - MARC21: Repeated 508 not correctly formatted (missing separator) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c5f75fde534db8a2b1329d5dfb83d34d9d29982>
04:19 dcook        I'd say conceptually it's huge, but the actual code hasn't been too bad
04:19 dcook        Although it's had a lot of iterations..
04:19 dcook        Certainly not millions, but it's good to have sponsorship
04:20 * Francesca  waves at dcook
04:20 dcook        hey Francesca
04:20 wahanui      Francesca is a junior developer with koha (suprise)
04:20 Francesca    I hear that you are a rambler
04:20 dcook        hehe
04:20 dcook        Just a little
04:20 dcook        drojf: I'll be taking off about 6 weeks in March/April, but hopefully I'll get something out in the next week or two..
04:20 Francesca    wahanui dcook is also a rambler
04:21 wahanui      okay, Francesca.
04:21 Francesca    dcook?
04:21 wahanui      i guess dcook is a zebra expert now
04:21 dcook        That'll leave a bit of time in February to fix up any minor issues people find, and that hopefully leaves some time in April/May for last minute stuff
04:21 dcook        I'm not super happy with what I have, but I don't think I'm ever super happy with what I produce, which is probably a good sign... as it means I always want to improve it :p
04:22 drojf        you have to let go at some point :)
04:22 dcook        Totally
04:22 dcook        That's always the hard part :)
04:23 bag          improvement++
04:23 dcook        Working on the web UI is nice... as it makes it feel a bit more real
04:23 drojf        thats what deadlines are for :)
04:23 dcook        Deadlines are so helpful
04:23 dcook        That's the great thing with sponsorship. You have a deadline, plus you have the money/time to work on it.
04:23 dcook        Rather than having it as a side project which just keeps getting pushed back and pushed back
04:24 dcook        I mean... I started my first iteration of the OAI-PMH harvester back in... mid-2013?
04:24 dcook        It's so so different now
04:24 dcook        Way better than back then
04:24 drojf        yeah. i'm more of a "a hundred hobby projects nobody pays for" kind of guy
04:24 dcook        hehe
04:24 dcook        Your projects are really cool though!
04:24 dcook        I'm really excited about the letsencrypt and GPG stuff :)
04:24 dcook        I think I'd have more hobby projects if my wife didn't dislike computers :p
04:25 drojf        i think LE will really be used by a lot of people. which is cool
04:25 drojf        gpg and tor, we will see ;)
04:25 dcook        hehe
04:25 dcook        I think LE is a huge step forward
04:25 dcook        Really huge
04:25 bag          :)
04:26 dcook        gpg and tor... you never know!
04:26 dcook        I wish my local public library used Koha to be honest
04:26 drojf        gpg so far does not need the library to do anything, or have a key, or know what gpg is. so patrons can decide for themselves, if they know about it
04:26 dcook        Nice!
04:26 dcook        Is it just a matter of uploading a public key via the OPAC member area?
04:27 drojf        yes
04:27 dcook        :)
04:27 dcook        If that were in Koha, I'd be talking that up a lot
04:27 drojf        i hope to get at that soon too. clean it and change a bit. LE is pretty much done i think
04:27 dcook        Especially in librarian groups that I'm a part of
04:28 dcook        \o/
04:28 drojf        well, depends on QA :D
04:28 dcook        Hmm is the LE stuff just for Debian package installs?
04:28 drojf        and on the debian package coming into jessie at least
04:28 drojf        yes, it's just automation scripts
04:29 drojf        i have not done a non package install in ages, not sure what you would need on top of what i got now
04:29 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15100: MARC21 - make display of "Dates associated with a name" optional <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f85d659a1ce76cc48bf53e07ce908b47fdce3c6> / Bug 15195 - patron details should open in tab <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b23b13d38c51cc10f9fcdf78f4afe1028119ad4> / Bug 15355: Translatability: Fix issues on check in page <http://git.koha-community.org
04:29 drojf        how do you set up the apache site with a manual install?
04:29 drojf        use the template, do it manually, or something else?
04:31 dcook        With a manual install... I think I use the koha-httpd.conf template
04:31 dcook        Or whatever template we've set up locally for cloning from which is a bit different
04:32 drojf        you get another template for LE. and you need to install LE in some way on your system. the setup will be less automated, but usable, i suppose
04:33 drojf        on non-debian/package systems i mean
04:33 dcook        Right. I'm sure I'll put something together for it at some stage :)
04:34 drojf        not sure what is the best way for the "get the certs" part. in debian i use certonly/webroot, start koha on 80 for a minute do verify with LE and then change the config to https-only
04:34 drojf        *to verify
04:34 SamEEE       Hi friends!
04:35 drojf        you would have to see what is the best way to get the cert. you are using opensuse dcook? (or maybe that was somebody else)
04:37 dcook        drojf: Yep, opensuse is me
04:38 drojf        what version(s)?
04:39 dcook        Mmm, I want to say 13.2, but I'd have to look
04:39 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14555: Warns in opac-search.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab81a0feeebf1c01857755f53060dcc255960e9b> / Bug 14624 - < > for advance_notices.pl wrongly documented <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4120e48b0ffe974636f8b070ea3c3f3956948409> / Bug 14641: [SIGNED-OFF] Warns in subscription-add.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff
04:39 dcook        Yeah, 13.2
04:47 drojf        there could probably be a similar script for that, to set up koha with LE. i'll see what i can find out
04:48 dcook        Cool. Thanks, drojf :)
04:48 drojf        in general i wonder why we do not have more automation stuff for non-debianish os. don't you people get crazy? or does everybody invent their own automation?
04:49 dcook        I think we're crazy and invent our own automation.
04:49 dcook        hehe
04:49 dcook        I'd like to switch over to Debian, to be honest.
04:49 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14480: Silences warn from editing patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=11109501eb6c8b8ee55390cd9860ac6dbf8c908c>
04:49 drojf        the forst server i ever got to install koha on was opensuse. it was like 20x the work compared to a debian install
04:49 drojf        *first
04:49 dcook        Yeah, you can do a fresh in stall on Debian pretty damn fast
04:49 drojf        and that was without updates :D
04:50 dcook        O_O
04:50 dcook        I'm pretty good at doing manual installs these days, but the updates are still a bit tricky sometimes
04:54 drojf        i did LE integration locally first. but maintaing that forever, on every server… meh. and it was obvious that others would like to have it too
04:54 dcook        For sure
05:11 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: 15623 - Spelling mistake in boraccount.pl Test - Search for writen, if not found... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=17a2426e0f6ea79eeea7e70acb670111ee6fa5f5> / Bug 15624: Spelling mistake in suggestion.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c2b0ea1158f7c3cd47e3ece8aa6575f78cc304f> / Bug 6679: (follow-up) fix 9 perlcritic violations in C4/TmplTokenType.pm <http:
05:21 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15597: Typo in opac-auth-detail.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=386aafd8bda94581c4eaa070552bf9a025306ceb> / Bug 15598: Also fixing space near exclamation mark in other files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3b7ccc87e2da4666617122f05ece2250a7c1500> / Bug 15598: Typo in subscription-add.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h
05:31 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15628: Remove get_branchinfos_of vestiges <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7dc0c67640904a19a73e58c6af330af50d6d16d6> / Bug 15638: Spelling mistake in request.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0867ca53d689108475d2bdba94712d6839db928f> / Bug 15638: spelling mistake in ~/Koha/reserve/placerequest.pl:4 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm
05:41 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15571 [QA Followup] - Remove tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb542fb1ff91ca8416058c20692a0201f74596e3> / Bug 15571 reserveforothers permission does not remove Search to hold button from... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f118addf0f559448cc8ffc13a522ff4b35718fd3> / Bug 15573 [QA Followup] - Tweak wording <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.
05:51 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15519: Warns when creating a basket <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=40f94a32a0251e5ea1cc6082765e1f421c2e45b7> / Bug 15552: Better wording of intranetreadinghistory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c827160122525c45000a4208215ee3fd83aa92b0>
06:01 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15162: Remove specific test in UNIMARCslim2*.xsl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=952ba0eed90c5f348159e6a734da43763c7d2042> / Bug 15162 Add for Unimarc XSL trans for RDF-DC & SRW-DC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fa1584940c64f5c1a7a66599152e7702e8c35e2> / Bug 15274: Putting tags around entire string where the originally split the... <http://git.koha-com
06:11 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14763: Calculate and display patron age <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b124540ee9819c86fd82a8fd63214c5b56ea9e32> / Bug 15004: Update help files for 'duplicating a budget' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c6aaab329153b4d15fae9d22ab3a223c9fabfe7> / Bug 15004: Ensure that the reset_all_budgets behavior is kept <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.
06:21 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14310 [QA Follow] - Remove FIXME, add explanation comment instead <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b86143b7b8144eaa6d0a42e512935e78ed7425e0> / Bug 14310 [QA Followup] - Adapt existing code to use new methods <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f87494a6e9d7c2bc24abaccb29d3610a398f44e6> / Bug 14310 [QA Followup] - Use output_with_http_headers, return 403s <http
06:31 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11280 - Change Withdrawn toggle to drop down selection of authorized values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0dd817178b3f9690e620aba24db8940858d8be8f> / Bug 13143 - Detect if the password is in a pipe <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c781d991132053dc6fed1195e7818c030c08945> / Bug 13143: Followup - Correct the pause message <http://git.koha-community.org/g
06:41 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 1983: Checkout: Hold repquest when checking out an item already on loan or reserved <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=192239fd79cacfdcc9d0fccc497773107b9752ab> / Bug 7683: Relabel "acquired date" and "removed date" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6bddb9efd21ef9d36f769ae90e11585b4d9038f> / Bug 7683: Catalog statistics wizard: QA fixes <http://git.koha-comm
06:42 bag          bug 15548
06:42 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15548 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , New patron related code should have been put to Patron instead of Borrower
06:47 bag          ok master should be a bit unstable now
06:47 bag          that’s for tomorrow - to fix it up :D
06:51 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8753: [QA Follow-up] Primary key and collation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ec7572d0ccd0aec27a8900725118e4da9a9a25a> / Bug 8753 - propagating the changes to kohastructure.sql and sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45d8575e3a15dfe871595afd561681a636d5f407> / Bug 8753 - Various little things - removing new dependency, changes to errors, textu
07:53 reiveune     hello
07:59 alex_a       bonjour
08:13 * magnuse    waves
08:26 gaetan_B     hello
08:26 wahanui      niihau, gaetan_B
08:28 liw          pretty. https://glittering.blue/
08:35 nlegrand     Hey #Koha!
08:54 Joubu        hi #koha
08:58 cait         morning #koha, morning Joubu
08:58 cait         jajm: aorund?
08:59 jajm         cait, hi
08:59 cait         hi :)
08:59 cait         was wondering when 3.20.2 will be released - a coworker was asking for setting up a new server
09:01 cait         hm i meant 3.22.2 of course...
09:01 cait         jajm: ?
09:02 jajm         cait, i wanted to release it yesterday, but i'm waiting for translation files from bernardo
09:02 cait         ah ok
09:03 cait         so probably not today then with the time difference
09:04 cait         thx!
09:04 jajm         cait, i'll try to retrieve the PO files by myself and release it today
09:04 cait         coudl you give a shout here when you do?
09:11 jajm         cait, sure
09:31 * andreashm  waves
09:31 * cait       waves back
09:37 andreashm    hi cait! how's it going?
09:37 cait         lots of work, but good :)
09:37 cait         moving soon now?
09:39 andreashm    yeah, a little over a month. don't talk about it to much, or you'll stress me out. =)
09:39 cait         oups
09:39 * cait       is quiet
09:40 andreashm    hehe
09:40 * Francesca  should be sleeping
09:41 andreashm    cait: any new Koha libraries for you?
09:41 andreashm    or just busy with the old ones?
09:42 gaetan_B     does anyone have experience with screen readers (jaws) and Koha ?
09:43 drojf        gaetan_B: i think catalyst has someone using a screen reader, maybe ask rangi
09:44 Francesca    there is someone at catalyst
09:44 gaetan_B     ah, interesting
09:44 Francesca    Julius I think his name is
09:44 Francesca    I've talked to him before
09:44 Francesca    rangi will know more
09:44 gaetan_B     do you know how it works ? is it just a matter of having acceptably clean html ?
09:45 Francesca    semantically correct html yeah
09:45 Francesca    thats defiantly part of what he mentioned
09:45 * Francesca  is excited
09:45 drojf        they had bugs for the academy regarding selects that were not reachable by tabbing
09:45 Francesca    something/someone I know!
09:46 Francesca    ya I feel like those were fixed though
09:46 Francesca    or something
09:46 wahanui      rumour has it something is sketchy
09:46 andreashm    it is very interesting to watch/listen to someone who is a seasoned jaws user, surf the web.
09:46 Francesca    it is
09:46 Francesca    helpful too
09:46 gaetan_B     ok, it seems we have a library in France by and for people with sight disabilities that uses Koha
09:46 gaetan_B     i'll try to get more info about them :)
09:46 Francesca    cool :)
09:46 andreashm    hey Gaetan, btw
09:46 Francesca    ask rangi about Julius as well
09:46 Francesca    I'm sure he'd help if he was asked too
09:46 gaetan_B     hi andreashm :) how have you been?
09:47 gaetan_B     yep i'll send him an email, thanks for the info :)
09:47 Francesca    no worries :)
09:48 nlegrand     gaetan_B: ha we're really not good with readability at BULAC, orange on white isn't readable...
09:48 Francesca    ohhh thats something I can fix
09:48 Francesca    I think
09:48 * Francesca  likes front-end problems
09:48 gaetan_B     nlegrand: ah that's a different problem, it's also interesting to have people with color blindness around for this
09:48 nlegrand     gaetan_B: one colleague ask for a « choose colour » functionality with strong contrast
09:49 gaetan_B     but probably easier to fix than making your whole html accessible to screen readers (for blind people)
09:49 nlegrand     ha ok
09:50 gaetan_B     i have one project with a color blind librarian, and he told me he found Koha's interface and opac perfectly ok
09:50 * Francesca  can fix colour readability issues
09:50 gaetan_B     but i suspect there are many kinds of color blindness
09:50 nlegrand     gaetan_B: the default is alright, I think about our old custumised one :)
09:50 Francesca    I shouldn't be this excited about the thought of fixing stuff
09:50 Francesca    its 10.50pm at night here
09:50 gaetan_B     if i may, your old default one is hard even for people with 20/20 vision :p
09:51 nlegrand     gaetan_B: yes, that's why a good solution for him is to provide choice to the patron
09:51 nlegrand     gaetan_B: you may :) everyone wants to get rid of it here :)
09:52 Francesca    I'm off to bed now
09:52 Francesca    night #koha
09:53 Francesca    gaetan_B: good luck getting in touch with Julius
09:53 gaetan_B     thanks, good night :)
09:53 Francesca    night :)
09:53 nlegrand     gaetan_B: this tool is nice <http://www.snook.ca/technical/colour_contrast/colour.html#fg=33FF33,bg=333333>
10:11 andreashm    gaetan_B: sorry, went away for a little bit. I'm fine thanks, busy working on our Koha implementation. And you?
10:14 * magnuse    waves to andreashm
10:14 andreashm    hi magnuse!
10:22 cait         andreashm: sorry, we are testing the new features for 3.22 today - so on the other computer m
10:22 magnuse      kia ora paul_p
10:47 andreashm    So, is there any way to trigger a hold in Koha (staff interface and/or api) when all items connected to a bib is available? It was my impression that AllowOnShelfHolds did this, but I was rudely awakened yesterday that this preference requires at least on item to be checked out.
10:54 gaetan_B     andreashm: quite busy too :) i'll be curious to see how the Stockholm project turns out!
10:54 andreashm    gaetan_B: hopefully good! =)
10:55 gaetan_B     ahah, of course it will!
10:59 cait         gaetan_B: we have a librarian using Jaws
11:01 gaetan_B     cait: oh, interesting, are all the features available through it ?
11:01 gaetan_B     what about the numerous popups we have?
11:01 gaetan_B     and javascript heavy pages like circulation ?
11:02 cait         andreashm: it shoudl if you set it to no - all items available and still allow a hold
11:03 cait         andreashm: sorry... yes = all items available - you can place a hold, no = can only place a hold if at least one item is checked out
11:03 cait         gaetan_B: she actually works on the circulation desk :)
11:03 cait         gaetan_B: before we switched away from yui for menus I had some customizations for her, breaking the menus up into links, but with the new gui it seems to work nicely for the menus
11:03 cait         gaetan_B: she also adds items and patrons i think
11:04 gaetan_B     wow, that's really good
11:04 gaetan_B     i hope i can try it one of these days
11:04 cait         one reamining problem is read-only date fields
11:04 cait         it's not really possible to use the calendar widget
11:04 cait         i think because getting that read to you is rather horrible...
11:05 cait         I thnk Joubu has a patch for unlocking the fields - so you can always alternatively type in a date manually
11:05 Joubu        bug 14060
11:05 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14060 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Remove readonly on date inputs
11:05 cait         they are currently on 3.18 - but with the new ajax based circ already
11:05 cait         ah, I think she is using IE
11:06 cait         because of the screen reader or other programs she needs - so that might be something to ask about
11:06 cait         and I have bug 15605 open for them
11:06 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15605 normal, P5 - low, ---, tasham_8, Passed QA , Accessibility: Can't tab to add link in serials routing list add user popup
11:07 cait         i think javascript and even ajax don't seem to be a problem in general, but probably still good to test carefull
11:07 cait         y
11:07 cait         bug 14193 - very recently fixed :)
11:07 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14193 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Accessibility: Searching patrons using the alphabetic index doesn't work
11:10 andreashm    cait: thanks! it seems I was sloppy when I tested it yesterday, and changed another item type than the one I used for testing. Ups!
11:10 andreashm    well, all good then
11:10 cait         :)
11:11 andreashm    another thing to cross of the list - excellent!
12:04 onre         does yaz client library expect SOAP envelope around the response even if the request was HTTP GET?
12:34 marcelr      hi #koha
12:34 marcelr      anyone having issues attaching patches with git-bz on https now ?
12:35 Joubu        marcelr: see rangi's email on koha-devel
12:35 marcelr      yes I saw but still have problems
12:35 marcelr      applying patch works but attaching does not
12:35 marcelr      please try
12:36 Joubu        http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2016-January/042260.html
12:36 Joubu        I did this morning
12:36 marcelr      yes me too
12:36 Joubu        ha
12:36 marcelr      can you attach ?
12:38 Joubu        no, unicodeencodeerror
12:38 drojf        are you trying the test bug?
12:38 Joubu        yes
12:38 drojf        that does not work, others do
12:38 drojf        there is something messed up in that bug
12:38 drojf        maybe open a new one and try
12:39 drojf        at least i had the same problem there and not on others
12:39 marcelr      hi drojf : yes, i also used the test bug.. that could be it
12:40 Joubu        obsoleted the patch on bug 6473, attaching a new one
12:40 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , Test bug for Git-bz
12:40 Joubu        it works
12:40 wahanui      For now...
12:40 Joubu        yes for now
12:40 marcelr      yes it works too !
12:40 marcelr      thx drojf++ Joubu++
12:40 Joubu        marcelr: did you test on 6473 also?
12:41 marcelr      it works fine now
12:42 drojf        i think you can attach to the test bug if you do not use -e
12:43 Joubu        drojf: now it works with -e, a patch was wrong
12:43 drojf        ah ok, great
12:47 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:47 cait         hi oleonard :)
12:48 oleonard     rangi++ # for https bugzilla!
12:49 marcelr      hi oleonard cait
12:50 marcelr      rangi++
12:51 cait         hi marcelr :)
12:51 cait         bbiab
13:03 magnuse      onre: no, i don't think yaz expects soap
13:10 oleonard     magnuse: That was a great sentence.
13:16 onre         magnuse, odd. https://gist.github.com/onre/0ab3fd57fa63cf4197ac the error message would hint at it expecting a SOAP envelope, even though I specified GET
13:31 magnuse      onre: huh, that was weird
13:31 magnuse      oleonard: thanks
13:34 magnuse      ah, looks like "good" ol' srw used soap
13:41 misilot      is there an easy way given a list of bibnumbers to get the call number for the items via sql? :)
13:48 onre         magnuse, I suppose I don't need to implement that to create a SRU metadata source that Koha would like to interact with?
13:52 jajm         Koha 3.22.2 released - https://koha-community.org/koha-3-22-2-released/
13:53 jajm         cait, ^
14:03 cait         thx jajm :)
14:03 cait         gong to build our branch now
14:04 cait         jajm++
14:09 lds          hello
14:09 wahanui      bidet, lds
14:13 Viktor       Greetings #koha :)
14:15 Viktor       RFID tag + regular visual barcode equals two barcodes. Last time I asked about making barcode repeatable it was a big "no" :) Would the answer still be the same? Out of loads of places in the code expecting only one barcode for example?
14:29 * magnuse    wanders off
14:32 oleonard     If  autoMemberNum is turned on, should I still be able to put in a barcode of my choice when creating a patron?
14:36 cait         oleonard: i'd think so
14:36 cait         oleonard: for test users and the like
14:44 tcohen       hi
14:45 cait         hi tcohen :)
15:04 oleonard     We ought to build a test into the QA tools which would reject any patch which includes the phrase "click here" :P
15:04 cait         totally agree
15:04 cait         pet peeve of mine actually
15:17 * tcohen     unhides
15:21 marcelr      hi tcohen
15:23 tcohen       hi marcelr
15:27 * druthb     puts a label on her shirt that says, "click here for sarcasm"
15:28 oleonard     druthb: It's 2016 and I still don't know how to "click" a person?!
15:30 * druthb     pokes oleonard in the arm.
15:30 druthb       like that?
15:30 wahanui      well, like that is hard to vote on. :)
15:30 * druthb     eyes wahanui, and reaches for her bat.
15:31 druthb       wahanui: druthb?
15:31 wahanui      She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know?
15:31 druthb       mhm
15:32 * oleonard   gives wahanui the stink-eye
15:59 cait         marcelr++
16:17 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15680 - Fresh install of Koha cannot find any dependencies <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2f667b4f220c5f3cfb904759b5d4bee679f1ed7>
16:29 oleonard     I would love to hear comments on Bug 15681
16:29 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15681 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add option to create hold request when checking out an item already on loan
16:29 oleonard     Whoops, forgot to revise the bug title
16:30 cait         what woudl the revised bug title be?
16:30 oleonard     Improve visibility of place hold option when checking out an item already checked out
16:30 cait         oh
16:30 cait         so we have it already?
16:31 oleonard     Bug 1983 has been pushed
16:31 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1983 enhancement, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Add option to create hold request when checking out an item already on loan
16:31 cait         aah
16:31 cait         oleonard: master or 3.22?
16:31 nengard_demo @wunder 78754
16:31 huginn`      nengard_demo: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 10.2°C (10:31 AM CST on January 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1029 hPa (Rising).
16:31 oleonard     I would prefer a button: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=47356
16:32 cait         so the hold is for the user you tried to check it out to
16:32 cait         that right?
16:32 cait         i thought it was... check it out to the user and then place ahold to the one who had it
16:32 cait         which kind amakes more sense to me when the book is at the desk
16:32 cait         hm
16:33 cait         i think i don't have a clear idea asbout the use case - but i like buttons
16:34 oleonard     Yeah the way it works it implies that you're entering a barcode for something which you don't actually have in your hands? I don't know.
16:35 cait         i first thought it was something like an ... in-between-loan
16:35 cait         because i have heard of this
16:36 cait         but seems to be a different thing now - but anyway the button is nicer
16:38 bag          morning
16:39 cait         morning bag
16:39 bag          hi cait
17:01 cait         bag: comment from marcel on bug 8753 - some work for you :)
17:01 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, charles.farmer, Pushed to Master , Add forgot password link to OPAC
17:02 bag          that’s odd because I could of sworn that I didn’t see any update in that code
17:03 bag          (it’s also why I saved it for the end)
17:04 cait         lots of patches
17:04 cait         i think it's in the first one actually
17:04 cait         bug_8753-Add_forgot_password_link_to_OPAC.sql
17:04 cait         i think easisest would be checking the atomicupdates directory if you have anything left there when you are done pushing
17:04 bag          cool I had the same thought
17:05 cait         coudl maybe even automate somehow
17:06 bag          I see why it wasn’t completely obvious to me — in the patch it’s like this .../bug_8753-Add_forgot_password_link_to_OPAC.sql
17:07 bag          instead of showing the full path :P
17:07 cait         yeah - i almost missed it too because of this
17:07 cait         too long :)
17:07 bag          heh
17:07 bag          ok I will definitely make sure that is cleaned up today
17:07 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15353: Display the patron image where needed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb0c2fce1b87222933bfa5dd02ca614521ba2a0c>
17:34 reiveune     bye
17:42 misilot      Hi, on the MARC Import tool if I select for "How to process items" : "Replace items if matching bib was found (only for existing items)" Will it add items for new records? or will those be ignored?
17:43 misilot      I usually do Add items only if no matching bib was found but want to be sure if the one above would be better?
18:00 * cait       waves
18:00 bag          hi cait
18:02 pianohacker  hi cait
18:02 cait         hi pianohacker :)
18:07 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev for bug 8753 (removing the atomicupdate too). <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c76bcd508a0929609a7988275e05558003a3a23d>
18:09 cait         bag++
18:57 BobB         hi bag
18:57 bag          hey BobB
18:57 BobB         hey
18:57 BobB         Fundraising meeting
18:58 BobB         I'm only half awake :)
18:58 BobB         how do we initiate a Google Hangout?
19:00 bag          BobB: we are in it
19:00 bag          let me send you a link
19:00 bag          BobB: https://hangouts.google.com/call/daxnavlmgxd7watbm2p4cwrdqaa
19:01 drojf        is it possible to watch without a google account?
19:01 bag          I don’t really know drojf
19:01 drojf        seems like no
19:02 drojf        well, i tried :)
19:02 BobB         looks like it needs a sign in
19:59 cait         wizzyrea++ #updated website :)
20:48 drojf        i think kohacon 2012 slipped out of the kohacon menu point, but the spnsors for that event have their own menu entry?
20:48 drojf        regarding the website update
20:58 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14828 [QA Followup] - Hide in OPAC checkbox not checked in editor even if enabled <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35b7fa91129b79d02883a6a6c52a512cb0722e51> / Bug 14828: use Koha::ItemType[s] in admin/itemtypes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=95f0caed385c845888e50c8f484b3ada6117b33a> / Bug 14828: Remove old package and tests <http://git.koha-community.org
21:08 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12636: Do not display unique patron attributes in the batch patron modification <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7b94b7012704d99a91ce32723404095a68fe6f1>
21:09 * andreashm  waves
21:19 * cait       waves
21:20 pianohacker  hi cait
21:20 pianohacker  go to bed
21:20 wahanui      http://cdn4.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/penguin.gif
21:20 cait         :P
21:21 pianohacker  cait: I guess it's only 11 where you are
21:21 cait         10:20
21:22 andreashm    early yet
21:23 cait         depends :)
22:14 magnuse      @later tell bag HI
22:14 huginn`      magnuse: The operation succeeded.
22:31 cait         pianohacker: i think rancor doesn't like me
22:31 cait         I am trying to add a 440 with 日本 in it
22:31 pianohacker  it has reason to be suspicious ;)
22:31 cait         and the save icon is still turning...
22:31 pianohacker  oh, bother.
22:31 pianohacker  can you open up firebug and try saving again?
22:32 cait         hm yes there is an error
22:32 cait         sec
22:33 cait         http://paste.koha-community.org/278
22:36 cait         pianohacker: shocked silence?
22:38 bag          HA!
22:38 bag          hi magnuse
22:39 pianohacker  cait: sorry, internet on my server went screwy
22:39 cait         ah
22:39 pianohacker  cait: AUGH this is a known bug I need to fix :(
22:39 pianohacker  bug 15514
22:39 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15514 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , New professional cataloguing editor does not handle repeatable fields correctly
22:40 pianohacker  I've been busy trying not to break acq with bug 15531 but this is near the top of my todo list
22:40 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15531 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, ASSIGNED , Add support for standing orders
22:43 dcook        Does the "upload.pl" plugin actually work?
22:43 dcook        I'm sure I'm just doing something wrong, but it keeps giving me permission errors which don't seem to make sense..
22:43 * dcook      goes to look at the source
22:49 dcook        Hmm
22:49 dcook        Works just fine if you just use "/tmp"...
22:51 dcook        I wonder if it'll actually work because of that private CGI thing..
22:51 dcook        Well that doesn't look good..
22:58 dcook        Still works with the private temp thing, but you wouldn't want to use /tmp as your storage directory anyway..
23:12 eythian      Hi
23:12 dcook        hey eythian
23:13 eythian      Sup
23:13 eythian      There's new x-files out.
23:14 cait         aleisha++ :)
23:15 * dcook      hasn't seen old x-files
23:15 dcook        Well, maybe half an episode in the '90s
23:18 eythian      Well, get on to it.
23:20 * cait       waves to eythian
23:20 eythian      Hiya cait
23:31 pianohacker  cait: can you pastebin that record? I can't dup with just a 440 (though I think I have a solution)
23:31 cait         hm if i can find it again
23:31 cait         was a randomone from my db, let's see
23:31 pianohacker  you should just be able to select all/copy and paste from rancor  :)
23:33 cait         sec
23:33 cait         pianohacker: it now saves... after editing it in the simple editor
23:34 cait         so can't reproduce now :(
23:35 cait         sorry, record appears to be fixed somehow
23:35 pianohacker  cait: hrm. Well, Joubu has a record on the bug and I have a safety, so it'll be fixed :)
23:37 cait         hm editing in the simple editor would have deleted anything that didn't fit - like a field not in the framework
23:37 cait         hard to tell
23:38 pianohacker  ah, yeah...
23:43 eythian      May
23:43 eythian      Err wrong window
23:44 ibeardslee   Is that when you are coming back?
23:48 eythian      No, it's when I'm going to wave gotik treffen.
23:49 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8753 [QA Followup] - Add notice to translations <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a343093e9c21e534c0baa3ee9d7b801f42399f9>