Time  Nick              Message
23:15 Francesca         pianohacker: suprise
23:15 wahanui           you are a junior developer with koha (suprise)
23:15 Francesca         me?
23:15 Francesca         oh right
23:15 mtompset          Have a great weekend, #koha.
23:14 pianohacker       Francesca: as an employee?
23:14 Francesca         I'm sick so missed out on what would have been my first beer o'clock as an employee yesterday - weathers nice but its gonna be a quiet long weekend for me
23:13 pianohacker       hopefully :)
23:13 Francesca         sounds fun
23:13 Francesca         ohh salsa dance
23:13 pianohacker       how about you?
23:13 pianohacker       life is exciting
23:13 pianohacker       Francesca: ^ I've got a lot of cooking this weekend (forgot to mention gumbo too), and a salsa dance class
23:12 Francesca         so pianohacker - how go things on your side of the planet
23:08 cait              night :)
23:08 cait              lol
23:06 pianohacker       I was waving back!
23:06 Francesca         pianohacker: why the backwards wave
22:58 cait              I will  :)
22:58 pianohacker       you too
22:57 cait              have a good weekend all :)
22:57 pianohacker       see ya monday
22:57 pianohacker       cait: yeah, and you need to sleep
22:57 cait              ok, caused enough confusion for tonight .)
22:57 * pianohacker     sevaw
22:57 * Francesca       waves
22:57 cait              maybe.. the problem is basically that the library email ends up in reply-to... and you don't want people to write to the one in branch email
22:56 pianohacker       This patch will probably just fix overdues, as it's kind of urgent, but I'll try to lay the Koha:: groundwork to make the rest easy
22:56 pianohacker       very overloaded
22:56 pianohacker       yeah, some which make sense and some which don't
22:55 cait              we are using branchemai in a lot of places - i remember i fixed that one with jquery, but overdues and another i had to patch
22:55 cait              error pages
22:55 cait              one thing that also comes to mind is the emial address shown on the error mages
22:55 cait              on what the 'branch' email is of the three
22:54 cait              it might be nice to have a general setting
22:54 cait              so i need to go and look it up monday probably :)
22:54 cait              but i don't remember now - i fixed it on our branch
22:54 cait              and another notice
22:54 cait              it causes a problem for overdues
22:54 pianohacker       cait: I think we're in exactly the same situation, that's the motivation for this
22:53 cait              wonder if it's similar for you
22:52 cait              because hosting... and spam... and it's too complicated
22:52 cait              for us we use branchemail with a bsz service address
22:52 pianohacker       cait: kk. Poke me, definitely :)
22:52 cait              if this is a similar problem than we have
22:51 pianohacker       pfft
22:51 bag               well I know you shouldn’t use friends
22:51 pianohacker       bag: in the pavlova?
22:51 cait              there is another spot you might want to change
22:51 pianohacker       cait: You'll have a patch to look at soon ;)
22:51 cait              but not when it's late :)
22:51 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15647 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, ASSIGNED , Allow selection of destination email address for print overdue notices
22:51 cait              pianohacker: i'd like to talk about bug 15647 sometime
22:50 bag               even
22:50 bag               flour*
22:50 bag               umm…  shouldn’t you use flower pianohacker ?
22:49 pianohacker       I've made friends with it
22:49 pianohacker       it's not too hard to make if you have a mixer, and it's friggin amazing
22:49 * cait            had some in nz :)
22:48 cait              heh
22:44 pianohacker       second best thing in my life to come out of New Zealand
22:44 pianohacker       pavlova++
22:44 pianohacker       cait: we're talking about cooking in #bywater
22:43 cait              what did i miss here? :)
22:38 pianohacker       chocolate pavlova
22:38 pianohacker       and pavlova!
22:37 pianohacker       pfft
22:37 bag               yeah pianohacker understood - I know making elk stew definitely gets in the way
22:36 cait              yeah a patch would be good
22:36 cait              hm
22:35 cait              HoldsInNoIssuesCharge?
22:35 cait              some of those look suspiciuos
22:34 pianohacker       I can, but probably won't be able to for a bit. Backlog of other stuff
22:34 bag               hmm wanna send up a patch to get them in sync pianohacker ?
22:33 pianohacker       some of these are intentional, but not most
22:32 pastebot          Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "cait, bag: sysprefs.sql out of sync" (123 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/272
22:31 cait              hi bag :)
22:31 bag               hi cait
22:31 * bag             ears perk up
22:31 cait              hm?
22:31 bag               oh roh
22:31 wahanui           missing is usualy library only, an item that's not out
22:31 cait              what is missing?
22:31 pianohacker       :(
22:31 cait              if something is mssing that's bad
22:31 cait              pianohacker: nope
22:25 pianohacker       cait: have we stopped keeping sysprefs.sql in sync?
22:23 huginn`           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15606: Fix spelling mistake in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b0290e42bec4d5bc251ee75eb014abe9a4822ddd>
22:05 * Francesca       waves
20:55 huginn`           mtompset: The operation succeeded.
20:55 mtompset          @later tell Joubu Could you look at bug 15646 please?
20:54 bag               mtompset: leave an at later for Joubu
20:54 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , koha qa test tools
20:54 mtompset          bag: Not sure about that. I just made a bug for it: bug 15646
20:53 mtompset          tcohen: Greetings!
18:54 bag               there could be a bug for that
18:48 mtompset          exclude_functions = print
18:48 mtompset          functions = :builtins
18:48 mtompset          [InputOutput::RequireCheckedSyscalls]
18:48 mtompset          Specifically adding:
18:47 mtompset          Where would submit a suggestion for the perlcriticrc for the koha qa test tools?
18:47 mtompset          Greetings, #koha.
17:58 npls              Hello. Does anyone know if it is possible to search by bib. number to produce a direct link to that record? There seems to be no search by bib. number in the catalogue search and the only thing I can think of is using an SQL query each time, which is not practical...
17:43 * oleonard        sets off into the snowstorm
17:32 pianohacker       https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Web_Console/Console_messages#Server
16:02 reiveune          bye
15:27 geek_cl           where i can add those field in order to o batch_delete_records.pl delete them ?
15:27 geek_cl           in the table biblioitem, we add some "other" fields
15:26 geek_cl           trying to batch_delete_records.pl
15:26 geek_cl           http://pastebin.com/QrrcG7Px
15:26 geek_cl           here again with a issue:
15:26 geek_cl           Hi #koha guys o/
14:48 huginn`           bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 9.3°C (6:48 AM PST on January 22, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
14:48 bag               @wunder 97215
13:52 huginn`           oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -5.1°C (8:51 AM EST on January 22, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Falling).  Winter Storm Warning in effect from 10 am this morning to 7 PM EST Saturday...
13:52 oleonard          @wunder 45701
13:24 tcohen            hi
13:14 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5501 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Improve the 'do not notify' option
13:14 oleonard          Bug 5501
13:11 oleonard          Or is it just a shortcut for unchecking all the boxes in that row?
13:11 oleonard          What is the difference between unchecking a notice in patron messaging preferences and checking the "do not notify" box?
12:49 LibraryClaire     hi oleonard
12:41 oleonard          Hi #koha
11:35 cait              time to switch trains
11:27 cait              yep :)
11:22 LibraryClaire     ooh nice :D
11:22 cait              visiting my dad for the weekend :)
11:10 LibraryClaire     going soewhere nice at least?
11:09 LibraryClaire     hehe truer
11:08 cait              also hurts when you got no internet... sometimes
11:08 cait              very true :)
11:03 LibraryClaire     it hurts
11:03 LibraryClaire     not advisable to fall off trains
10:59 cait              on a train today - might fall off now and then
10:59 LibraryClaire     hi cait
10:50 * cait            waves
09:00 esdaniel          hello, anyone using docker on a single cloud vps for koha with 2 containers, 1 for httpd and 1 for mysql, or is this a bad approach for a single svr solution?
08:56 LibraryClaire     practically tropical out...
08:56 huginn`           LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 7.0°C (8:50 AM GMT on January 22, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
08:56 LibraryClaire     @wunder LCY
08:56 LibraryClaire     morning #koha
08:23 Francesca         hey
08:18 gaetan_B          hello
08:10 schnydszch        this as well for sorting
08:09 schnydszch        am I right in saying that searching by publication date range in Koha default installation (indexes not fixed), 008 date range is the one in used?
08:07 schnydszch        hello!
08:04 Joubu             hi
08:03 Francesca         hey
07:54 wahanui           what's up, reiveune
07:54 reiveune          hello
05:37 reza              in case if I install a fresh koha and just point it to a DB?
05:35 reza              another question is when i install a new koha besides the koha-conf.xml is there any other file that store the necessary information?
05:35 mtj               all finished :0)
05:34 mtj               7. sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f library
05:34 mtj               then...
05:33 mtj               6. sudo koha-upgrade-schema library
05:33 mtj               5. sudo koha-mysql library  < backedup.sql
05:32 mtj               ^ ..thats a good email, with instructions
05:32 reza              mtj: thank  you :)
05:32 mtj               https://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2014-January/038307.html
05:30 mtj               ..its the command-line version of the 'web upgrade' process
05:29 mtj               koha-upgrade-schema mykoha101
05:29 mtj               reza: run this command after you load your old db into your new koha...
05:26 reza              yeah :D ,
05:26 mtj               ...as its your 1st time, and you will be careful :)
05:25 reza              any instruction ?
05:25 mtj               yes, will take you a few hours to work thru the process
05:25 reza              does it make a downtime?
05:24 reza              it's on production
05:23 mtj               make a new koha instance, then load your db into that
05:22 reza              i have to say this is a new upgraded koha
05:22 mtj               koha-create --create-db koha1
05:22 mtj               well... thats a problem hey
05:21 reza              returning nothing
05:21 mtj               koha-list --enabled
05:21 mtj               koha-list
05:20 reza              cos koha is up and running
05:20 reza              how can i find out what is the instance of running koha
05:18 mtj               ..then dump/load the database into your new koha
05:17 mtj               if you have a problem with that instance... just make a new one :)
05:16 mtj               reza: perhaps its not enabled?
05:07 reza              but it's not returning anything
05:07 reza              I used sudo koha-list --enabled to gt the koha instance
03:48 reza_             wizzyrea: thanks
03:43 * Francesca       waves at wizzyrea
03:37 wizzyrea          reza: sudo koha-list --enabled
03:34 * Francesca       waves
03:11 reza              is it in koha-config?
03:11 reza              how can I check what is my Koha instance name
02:45 dcook             Server crashes on Monday, DNS crash right now..
02:44 dcook             This is the week from hell
02:34 wizzyrea          hehe
02:27 dcook             man babies... hehe
02:27 wizzyrea          you were. I distracted you, I'm sorry.
02:23 dcook             I feel like I was doing something a moment ago..
02:20 dcook             I feel like I want to giggle in 4 different ways
02:20 dcook             hehe
02:19 wizzyrea          hm. that was unintentionally funny in like 4 different ways.
02:19 wizzyrea          dcook it's a real shame there's no 'man babies'
01:45 reza              upgraded
01:45 reza              phew, I have 3.10 to 3.20
01:07 dcook             "man man", man
01:07 dcook             I've always wanted to do "man syslog 2" or "man syslog(2)" or "man syslog (2)"
01:07 dcook             Also, who knew that "man 2 syslog" was the way to get the 2nd section?
01:07 dcook             wizzyrea: Yeah, I really should advocate a switch to Debian one day..
01:07 huginn`           dcook: The operation succeeded.
01:07 dcook             @later tell pianohacker I just meant that I don't have access to the Debian Koha package scripts on openSUSE :P
01:06 dcook             I can't believe I've never done "man man" before
00:41 wahanui           goodnight pianohacker_DND. You'll be back.
00:41 pianohacker_DND   night all
00:41 * pianohacker_DND needs a break
00:40 pianohacker_DND   dcook: it's not even a package script issue. If you have two virtualhosts on the same koha instance and you want different CSS for each one, they need different values for OPAC_CSS_OVERRIDE
00:40 wizzyrea          dcook - it'd be a pain but worth it to switch to debian :P
00:39 * pianohacker_DND looks at papa
00:39 wizzyrea          yeah, I don't know where he got to, actually.
00:39 pianohacker_DND   oh?
00:39 wizzyrea          pianohacker_DND: papa was looking at that
00:39 * dcook           understands rangi's point now
00:38 dcook             For the package scripts
00:38 dcook             Less predictable..
00:38 dcook             I guess that's a bit tougher as it's more individualized
00:38 dcook             Why not move them to the same place as KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB?
00:38 pianohacker_DND   so we're thinking of a hack using RequestHeader in place of SetEnv (and a patch to make Koha respect that)
00:37 dcook             Right
00:37 dcook             I guess it depends on what Plack loads when starting up
00:37 pianohacker_DND   but regardless, none of this allows the virtualhost-specific settings...
00:37 * dcook           was thinking about this while waiting for a traffic light the other day
00:37 pianohacker_DND   *shrug* no idea
00:37 dcook             server*
00:37 dcook             Depending on how many instances you have on your serverf
00:37 dcook             That must be pretty memory intensive I would guess
00:37 dcook             I figured it must but I was curious
00:36 pianohacker_DND   and that still works for multiple instances because it starts a plack server for each one
00:36 dcook             I think I'm doomed to forever be around the curve not using Debian-based OSes for Koha
00:36 dcook             Ahh, darned package scripts :p
00:36 dcook             I have wondered how that works for multiple sites..
00:36 pianohacker_DND   the package plack scripts take care of that
00:36 pianohacker_DND   dcook: yeah
00:36 dcook             So they're just exported before starting up the plack server?
00:36 dcook             ?
00:35 pianohacker_DND   so yeah
00:35 pianohacker_DND   any environment variables set when the plack server is launched will be kept
00:35 dcook             Or are those values stored elsewhere with Plack?
00:35 dcook             How does it manage with KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB?
00:35 pianohacker_DND   exactly
00:35 pianohacker_DND   yup
00:35 dcook             I guess because Apache is just the reverse proxy..
00:34 wizzyrea          \o/ awesome gandalf
00:34 wahanui           i think Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
00:34 dcook             Interesting
00:34 pianohacker_DND   dcook: that doesn't and likely can't work in Plack
00:34 dcook             pianohacker_DND: Yep
00:33 gandalf           https://youtu.be/JWPGdAdbyxY
00:32 pianohacker_DND   dcook: so, you know how you can use SetEnv MEMCACHED_SERVERS, OVERRIDE_SYSPREF_*, OPAC_LIMIT_OVERRIDE, etc. to override settings per-virtualhost with a shared koha-conf.xml?
00:30 dcook             pianohacker_DND: Admittedly, I don't even know entirely what we're talking about. What data are you trying to send?
00:30 pianohacker_DND   dcook: the planned workaround that I'm going to slap together will use HTTP request headers set in the apache conf
00:29 * dcook           likes verbosity
00:29 wizzyrea          I wish the errors in the log were a squidge more verbose :P
00:29 wizzyrea          yeah, that's what I'm seeing
00:23 dcook             Huh... this is totally the reason why I use "sutin": http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sutin
00:23 dcook             Like... you'll get a list of 20 entries with nothing but star reviews or sutin
00:22 dcook             I think it just doesn't really show anything
00:22 dcook             Yeah I don't think it has an ugly error anymore
00:19 wizzyrea          hum, did we change it so that if the xslt loading fails it doesn't die with an ugly error
00:16 dcook             You know your brain has been working too fast when..
00:16 dcook             Oh hey, I'm listening to music. When did that happen..
00:16 dcook             I have other stuff to do anyway >_>
00:16 dcook             Ah, fair enough
00:16 Francesca         I think rangi is eating pizza
00:16 dcook             Err... same directory that is
00:15 dcook             Presuming I know what the conversation was about... I assume DSpace manages because it embeds the configuration code in the source code..
00:15 dcook             rangi: How would you do it without using ENV variables?
00:14 dcook             :)
00:14 * Francesca       sends dcook a virtual cookie for fixing all the things
00:13 * dcook           is going to eat a cookie as a reward for fixing all the things
00:13 dcook             It's why they pay me some bucks :p
00:13 Francesca         just the thought makes me want to vanish
00:12 dcook             And progressively negatively impacting server performance :D
00:12 dcook             Nothing like finding an infinite loop which has been running for 10 days..
00:12 * huginn`         fills a pint glass with Allagash 10th Anniversary Ale, and sends it sliding down the bar to pianohacker_DND (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4/24209/)
00:12 Francesca         @bartender pianohacker_DND
00:06 pianohacker_DND   this is giving me a headache
00:06 pianohacker_DND   I think I need stress pizza
00:05 * Francesca       wishes she could have pizza too
00:04 * rangi           goes to eat pizza
00:04 rangi             yep
00:04 pianohacker_DND   I think I'll end up implementing this and submitting it since it seems like a workable patch and we have customers looking to test plack
00:03 rangi             not easily no, we made the bad decision to use ENV variables in the past .. can't go back to that really
00:03 pianohacker_DND   yeah
00:02 rangi             to make sure its only ever the header we set
00:02 rangi             well you could remove, and add a new
00:02 pianohacker_DND   there's no way we can make this backwards compatible with existing setups though, no?
00:02 pianohacker_DND   yeah, that seems reasonable enough, assuming there's some way we can filter out those headers in external traffic
00:01 rangi             i think setting headers
00:00 pianohacker_DND   but where does the config go, given that the use-case assumes multiple virtualhosts sharing one koha-conf.xml?
00:00 pianohacker_DND   agreed
00:00 rangi             theres ways around it, ... and better ways than ENV