Time Nick Message 02:17 dcook Hmm... I need a display that constantly shows me time in both Australia/Sydney and UTC... that would be fantastic... 02:18 dcook I don't know if I'd want a software-based solution though, as that would take up valuable screen space 02:19 dcook Apparently you can do it with Windows but you have to hover over the clock with your mouse... 02:19 dcook I guess that's ok.. 05:17 ashimema 2 down, 4 to go 05:20 dcook O_O 05:20 dcook Also hey ashimema 05:20 dcook Earlier/later than I thought it was 05:22 ashimema hi dcook 05:22 ashimema long time no see 05:22 ashimema 5.20am here 05:22 dcook Yeah, I just looked you up :p 05:22 * ashimema curses baby for waking him up 05:22 dcook hehe 05:22 dcook That'll be me soon... 05:22 dcook 11 more weeks? 05:22 ashimema you looked at bug 15380 at all? 05:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move the authority types related code to Koha::Authority::Type[s] - part 1 05:22 * dcook hopes that someone is coordinating a Koha onesie... 05:23 ashimema 11 weeks, awesome.. congrats 05:23 dcook Oh man... not even a little bit 05:23 dcook 11 weeks left to go :p 05:23 ashimema :) 05:23 dcook 29 weeks along 05:23 dcook I've had so much on my plate this year 05:23 dcook Working on bug 10662 05:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, In Discussion , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client 05:23 dcook Plus a non-Koha project 05:23 ashimema yeah.. I saw that. 05:23 ashimema exciting :) 05:23 dcook Doing some DSpace right now as well 05:23 dcook Yeah, I'm pretty excited about it :) 05:23 ashimema I've been mostly on non-koha stuff the last year 05:24 dcook Yeah? How's that been going? 05:24 ashimema but am trying to get back into koha next year. 05:24 dcook :D 05:24 ashimema non-koha has been great :) 05:24 dcook That's really good to hear :) 05:24 ashimema I've learnt so much from working with perl in a new project 05:24 dcook Me too :) 05:24 dcook High five! 05:24 ashimema really showed me how poor the koha code is though ;) 05:24 dcook Haha 05:24 dcook Well, if it makes you feel better... 05:25 dcook I've looked at a different Perl project which doesn't stack up so well next to K oha 05:25 dcook Koha* 05:25 ashimema well.. poor meaning 'in need of update' 05:25 dcook Makes Koha look like a shining beacon of hope 05:25 ashimema really.. what project ? 05:25 ashimema we found that with Cufts/Godot 05:25 dcook Looong story 05:25 ashimema made koha look nice 05:25 dcook Cufts sounds familiar.. 05:25 ashimema our new project uses Mojolicious 05:25 dcook What's the project you've been doing? 05:25 dcook Oh nice 05:26 dcook I've looked at the Mojolicious docs a bit 05:26 dcook I've been using Catalyst on the other one 05:26 ashimema it's a reading lists product 05:26 dcook So Mojolicious looks familiar 05:26 ashimema mojo backend and angular front end 05:26 dcook Nice 05:26 dcook I'd love to see core Koha re-written with Mojolicious.. 05:26 ashimema Mojo is pretty darn stable now, so well worth playing with. 05:26 ashimema I'm loving the non-blocking features 05:27 dcook Yeah, that's what I was looking at the other day 05:27 ashimema makes async in perl almost easy ;) 05:27 dcook haha 05:27 dcook Yeah, I've been using POE a lot on my other project 05:27 dcook And I'm using it with the OAI 05:27 dcook Intimidating at first, but not bad once you get it 05:27 ashimema there is the rest stuff in now.. that's Mojo based.. 05:27 dcook Yeah, I saw that 05:27 dcook Not a required module but still 05:27 ashimema problem is. it's locked to the debian packaged version of mojo.. which is pretty out of date 05:27 dcook Ahh yeah, I guess so, eh? 05:27 dcook Even Jessie? 05:28 ashimema not checked for a while. 05:28 dcook Wouldn't be surprised 05:28 dcook I just upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie at home, and loving it 05:28 ashimema but Mojo is generally a pretty fast moving dependancy.. we should keep up for the sakes of security and maintainbility 05:28 dcook Although I haven't actually checked out all my newer versions of things yet.. 05:28 dcook The upgrade accidentally removed some stuff it shouldn't have which didn't please me.. 05:28 dcook Yeah, fair enough 05:29 dcook I guess that's the one thing with frameworks.. 05:29 dcook What OS do you use on the other project? 05:29 ashimema Jessie ;) 05:29 ashimema we're very much 05:29 ashimema a debian shop here 05:29 ashimema the big but is that in our other project we aren't even going to try to support packages. 05:30 ashimema instead we have a simplistic heroku like setup. 05:30 ashimema with the entire perl stack encapsulated 05:31 ashimema with continuous integration in mind.. I've built a Mojo command for deployment 05:31 dcook Haven't played with Heroku, but I think I get the picture 05:31 dcook I really want to play with Docker at some point.. 05:31 ashimema so.. deploying a new version to prodcution is as simple as 05:31 ashimema rebus deploy prod_1 05:32 ashimema where 'rebus' is our app name, 'deploy' is the command name and 'prod_1' is the production server name alias 05:32 ashimema I ended up finding Docker a bit heavy 05:32 dcook Nice :) 05:32 ashimema but maybe that was just the learning curve 05:32 * dcook looks up Heroku 05:33 dcook Yeah, could be 05:33 dcook I used to think that with POE 05:33 dcook But that's cool 05:33 dcook So new version being a new version of the whole stack? 05:33 dcook Like... Mojo 2.x instead of 1.x? 05:33 ashimema pretty much yeah 05:33 dcook Nice 05:33 dcook Yeah, don't even get me started on my other project... hehe 05:33 ashimema we have a cpanfile (and cpanfile.snapshot) 05:34 dcook I have a lot of work to do to update it.. 05:34 dcook It's behind so many firewalls as well which is fun 05:34 ashimema and use Carton to manage our dependancies and plenv to manage our local perl versions. 05:34 ashimema the deploy command basically ssh's to the prod server. 05:35 ashimema pull's the latest production branch from github 05:35 ashimema runs carton install --deploy to update all the cpan dependancies 05:35 ashimema then hot restarts the app's service 05:36 ashimema as it's all persistent you can change the code in the background whilst the app's still running 05:36 ashimema then the hot deploy basically 'just works' 05:36 ashimema needs more testing, but so far it's working really nicely. 05:36 dcook Yeah, I've had that as well. Loooove persistence. 05:36 dcook That's nice that you have it all working so well :) 05:38 ashimema hmm. 05:38 ashimema I'm currently trying to work out the difference between a Koha::Authority and a Koha::MetadataRecord::Authority in Joubu's patches 05:39 dcook Good luck to you 05:39 dcook I'm trying to figure out whether someone has changed this DSpace code or not.. 05:39 dcook (another development practice which is not good..) 05:39 dcook Should be able to just look at git, but anyway.. 05:39 ashimema indeed 05:40 dcook I just help out with it sometimes 05:40 dcook I'm the boss of Koha, but not DSpace :p 05:40 dcook Maybe boss is too strong of a word 05:41 ashimema lol 05:43 dcook Blarg... no code change per se.. 05:44 dcook Looks like CSS issues.. 05:44 * dcook doesn't get the desire to squish pages into a narrow column with lots of whitespace 05:44 dcook Seems so passe now 05:52 dac Err 05:52 dac die dcook die... 05:53 dac :S 05:54 dac NickServ, you're a bloody liar... 05:55 dcook That was weird.. 05:56 dcook Now why would DSpace put a col-md-10 within a col-md-12 and have its children add up to 12 when it only has 10 to give.. 05:58 ashimema lol 05:58 dcook I guess it still adds up to 100% :S 06:00 dcook The date field is just now too small for anything to be entered.. 06:00 dcook But that's because a higher element is too narrow... and the effects just cascade down.. 06:07 ashimema 3 down 06:07 ashimema your up early Joubu 06:24 dcook Defo a bug with DSpace je pense 06:25 dcook Such have a min-width at least for some of these inputs so they don't become unusable like this.. 06:25 * dcook is such a workaholic.. 06:28 ashimema http://www.perladvent.org/2015/2015-12-23.html - If only all support was so simple ;) 06:51 dcook Well I've got to run 06:51 dcook Happy holidays folks :) 06:51 dcook See ya ashimema! 06:51 ashimema bye dcook 06:51 ashimema have a good one 07:09 ashimema OAuth as a service provider is 'interesting'.. so many auth flows 07:53 reiveune hello 07:59 gaetan_B hello 07:59 laurence bonjour 08:01 ashimema mornin' 08:02 bora hello 08:02 bora anyone there ? 08:21 cait morning #koha 08:33 cait @later tell drojf 3.22 - 3.18 po files checked and ok 08:33 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 08:38 cait bgkriegel++ for making framework traslations a thing :) 08:59 Joubu Thanks a lot ashimema for Qaing the rewrite scripts! 09:07 ashimema no worries.. you can thank millie for waking me at 3.30am this morning ;) 09:08 ashimema the last one I had a comment for frederic's followup.. 09:08 ashimema I didn't understand it thoroughly enough to signoff on it.. needs a bit more effort 09:08 ashimema but the code generally looks good 09:09 ashimema I'll try to get to the other which I've not looked at yet later today. 09:09 * ashimema has decided that Mojolicious::Plugin::OAuth2::Server may be a really nice addition to the Koha REST Api's.. could solve all our authentication woes in one nice hit 09:11 ashimema pretty much covers all angles.. 09:11 * ashimema has been reading the specs this morning 09:13 nlegrand hey #koha 09:19 cait hi nlegrand :) 09:23 Joubu millie++ 09:25 ashimema interesting: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#section-3.1.2.5 - I bet a bunch of providers don't do that 09:53 drojf hi #koha 09:53 cait hi drojf :) 09:54 drojf oh you beat me :) 09:54 drojf cait++ 09:55 cait a good easy task to wake up to:) 09:55 drojf i woke up to more data migration :D 09:55 cait new data? or same as last night? 09:55 drojf but done for now, so i came to check if you tested already 09:56 drojf same. last bits and pieces, and some more questions to the library 09:56 drojf now to authority data :D 09:56 cait sounds like serious fun 09:58 drojf it is. nothing to migrate, but trying to magically get some from the GND 09:59 drojf oh, you asked about the time… 1237176 MARC records done in 16054.2800681591 seconds. for the "körperschaften" part 10:00 drojf but i dont know the full reindex time, i had to start it 3x because the VM was too small. and then i lost track of time ;) 10:08 cait heh 10:08 cait and seconds is not a comfortable format 10:08 cait curious how it turns out in the end 10:08 cait why are you loading them in the first place? 11:35 bora hello I have upgraded from koha v 3.12 to 3.22 11:35 bora the process update was successful 11:35 bora but at the end I got database connection error 11:36 bora anyone help pls 11:39 bora hi 11:39 nlegrand hey cait o/ (rather lagging today ^^) 11:39 bora anyone there 11:39 bora I got a problem when make an update koha version 3.12 to 3.22 11:40 bora I got database error 11:40 bora anyone can help pls 11:41 cait waht is the database error? 11:43 bora DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::dbh(): DBI Connection failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 11:44 bora '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 1253. at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Database.pm line 89 11:44 cait hm 11:44 cait did you change something in your installation? 11:45 cait it seems like the mysql connection data are not correct 11:45 bora actually it's work 11:45 bora but some I got an error 11:45 bora to get it woek I have to restart my server 11:46 bora when I got an error I make a restart 11:46 cait i am sorry, i haven't heard of any problems like this 11:46 bora ok 11:46 cait are you using plack? 11:47 bora what plack is? 11:47 cait did you try to google the mysql error message? maybe it can give you a clue 11:47 cait if you don't know what it is - you are probabl ynot using it :) it has to be set up 11:47 bora so what is plack how it work with koha 11:47 cait googling Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket points to a potential issue with your mysql configuration 11:48 cait it's optional 11:48 cait i think nothing you have to worry about now 11:48 cait i was just trying to limit the problem 11:49 bora I see 11:49 bora while I make upgrade koha version I also make an update server 11:49 bora may be that time my sql also updatd 11:59 bora hi 12:32 tcohen morning 12:32 tcohen cait: jenkins is testing the po files already (master and 3.22) 12:42 cait tcohen: but will it fix them? :) 12:42 tcohen nope, just warn the release maintainer 12:42 cait :) 12:42 tcohen maybe we should better add it to the qa tools 12:43 cait hm not sure 12:43 cait the po files are directly pushed before release 12:43 tcohen exactly 12:43 cait only a short timeframe in between - so probably no chance for trnslators to fix then 12:43 tcohen ah, i just check they are well formed 13:05 ashimema thanks for the heads up on bug 13719 joubu 13:05 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13719 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Make Koha::Objects store list of resultant objects on an as needed basis 13:05 ashimema anyone else familiar with dbic feel free to comment too 13:05 cait sorry, not me then :( 13:06 ashimema in my opinion, it would be a pretty nasty memory leak 13:06 ashimema but I 'might' be wrong 13:11 oleonard Hi #koha 13:26 tcohen is oai.pl broken in 3.20? 13:31 cait there is a bug report about it being very slow in 3.22 13:31 cait nothing heard about 3.20 13:32 tcohen ok 13:33 ashimema dcook would know 13:44 * ashimema is slowly coming round to the Mojo::Pg side of thinking.. Pg's has some awesome async stuff 15:03 gaetan_B bye 15:14 tcohen @seen thd 15:14 huginn` tcohen: thd was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 6 days, 18 hours, 40 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <thd> Back to backups. 15:16 tcohen @later tell thd, I'd like to talk with you about SimpleServer 15:16 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 15:42 circ-user-gWHRt hi 15:43 kidclamp hello circ-user-gWHRt 15:44 circ-user-gWHRt can u guide me how to migration from koha version 3.12 to the latest version ? 15:45 circ-user-gWHRt [ddd]d 15:45 kidclamp I can try to point you in the right direction. Do you know how your koha was originally installed? Source or package? 15:46 circ-user-gWHRt package 15:46 kidclamp performing an update and upgrade on your linux host system should upgrade koha automatically then 15:47 kidclamp though I would recommend making backups just in case 15:47 circ-user-gWHRt yes i have backup 15:47 kidclamp http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Upgrade_Instructions 15:47 kidclamp the upgrade instructions are ubuntu but should apply to debian 15:48 circ-user-gWHRt this is upgrade but i am not look for upgrade 15:48 circ-user-gWHRt i want to install a fresh koha latest version 15:48 circ-user-gWHRt and want to move all record from my old version to a new version 15:49 circ-user-gWHRt sin my old server going to retired 15:49 circ-user-gWHRt actually we dont used VM we install direct on host marchine 15:50 kidclamp I think a dump of your current and a restore on a new should be upgrade the db 15:50 kidclamp http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages 15:51 kidclamp but testing first is always best 15:53 circ-user-gWHRt do the latest version has different field on database ? if make a move the old db will not support the new version! its correct? 15:56 kidclamp I 'think' the database upgrade will activate automatically, but testing to see if there are any problems is always best 15:57 circ-user-gWHRt you mean when i move old db to a new version koha's system will do upgrad databse ? 15:57 cait it shoudl work like kidclamp said - it will compare the version in the database to the version in the code and the upgrade will be triggered automatically - but testing such a move is recommended 15:58 circ-user-gWHRt thank 15:58 circ-user-gWHRt i also look for a web blog on koha tutorial, anyone can recommend please? 15:59 cait manual? 15:59 cait hm 15:59 cait that should have shown the link :) 15:59 cait koha manual? 15:59 cait maybe our bot is not here 15:59 cait http://manual.koha-community.org/ 16:01 circ-user-gWHRt not manual, its a blog where can i learn more about koha cos i am new to koha 16:01 cait hm sorry, i don't know about a regularly updating one 16:02 cait biblibre sometimes publishes an english 'did you know...' post - but it's not very frequent 16:02 cait http://www.biblibre.com/en/tags/did-you-know 16:02 circ-user-gWHRt let me check this 16:02 circ-user-gWHRt thanks 16:02 ashimema chris's blog if filtered on Koha isn't a terrible start either: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/tag/koha/ 16:03 cait circ-user-gWHRt: also here - and they have tutorial videos: http://bywatersolutions.com/blog/ 16:03 ashimema https://koha-community.org/news/ 16:03 kidclamp hanging out here isn't a bad start either :-) 16:03 cait kidclamp: btw - ilove the picture of you on the blog post :) 16:04 circ-user-gWHRt kidclamp, that is correct 16:04 kidclamp thanks cait 16:04 circ-user-gWHRt you all so help full 16:14 oleonard Bye all. I hope you all get to leave for holiday vacations soon too. 16:29 cait bye all - and happy holidays :) 16:31 reiveune bye 18:55 tcohen ES rules :-D 18:55 tcohen es++ 18:55 tcohen catmandu++ 18:55 tcohen have a nice xmas everyone 18:57 cait huh? 18:58 rangi ? 18:59 cait just wondering about tcohen's comments :) 18:59 cait about the context 19:01 rangi ah ok 19:32 wizzyrea yay eythian has a home! 19:33 eythian It's true 19:34 eythian [off] https://goo.gl/photos/mrno9QNHV8ocjgKk8 19:35 rangi nice! 19:36 cait :) 19:38 wizzyrea [off] so nice! 19:39 rangi @wunder nzwn 19:39 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (8:30 AM NZDT on December 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 19:39 rangi 15 my butt 19:39 rangi its at least 18 19:39 wizzyrea it's def warm today. 19:39 * wizzyrea hopes for no tricksy wellington weather today 19:40 bag @wunder pdx 19:40 huginn` bag: The current temperature in Mikeshouse Cully, Portland, Oregon is 5.1°C (11:29 AM PST on December 23, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). 19:40 bag Mikeshouse Cully? 19:41 bag @wunder 97215 19:41 huginn` bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 4.1°C (11:40 AM PST on December 23, 2015). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). 19:41 bag Kittyland ;0 19:41 bag ;) 20:11 eythian @wunder amsterdam 20:11 huginn` eythian: Error: No such location could be found. 20:12 eythian @wunder Amsterdam nl 20:12 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 8.9°C (9:00 PM CET on December 23, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 20:12 eythian But I now have central heating, so it doesn't matter 😠20:15 wizzyrea you win this round. 20:15 aleisha nice place eythian! 20:17 eythian Yeah, I'm pretty happy with it. 20:33 wizzyrea hrm how would one test this? bug 14155 20:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14155 major, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Placing holds via ILSDI bypass some checks 20:33 wizzyrea there's no test plan, it looks like it just needs a signoff on the followup 20:35 rangi hmmm 20:35 rangi yeah 20:37 wizzyrea i guess run it through koha-qa before and after 20:38 wizzyrea since that's the "problem" 20:39 rangi *nod* 20:41 rangi does bug 14784 make sense to anyone? 20:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14784 minor, P5 - low, ---, genevieve.plantin, Needs Signoff , Missing checkin message for debarred patrons when issuing rules 'fine days = 0' 20:41 rangi with no test plan, im not entirely sure what im trying to test 20:42 wizzyrea hm 20:45 wizzyrea setting up that test case, I think we're lacking something 20:46 rangi yeah, ive asked for a test plan 20:51 cait1 hm maybe it means entering 0 days for fines 20:51 cait1 but... yeah. not sure :) 21:00 wizzyrea the new changes to koha-shell (su to sudo maybe?) don't keep the history and that's a little annoying. 21:00 wizzyrea unless someone's got a tricksy workaround for that. 21:03 cait1 rangi++ wizzyrea++ :) 21:03 wizzyrea aleisha++ too 21:04 aleisha hello 21:05 cait1 aleisha++! 21:06 * rangi giggles 21:06 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12528#c39 21:06 huginn` 04Bug 12528: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bouzid.fergani, Signed Off , Enable staff to deny message setting access to patrons on the OPAC 21:14 wizzyrea hee 21:17 cait1 syspref all the things! 22:33 kathryn Happy Christmas and/or holidays everyone! Whether it's mulled wine and roast, or BBQ and beersies, I hope you have a happy and relaxing time! :) 22:33 eythian Hi kathryn 22:35 cait1 happy christmas kathryn :) 22:35 kathryn hi eythian extra happy wishes for you :) 22:35 kathryn thank you cait1 :) 22:35 eythian 🙂 22:36 eythian Time for bed I think. Later! 22:37 eythian kathryn: btw, i now have a home. wizzyrea has pictures. 22:38 kathryn oh cool :) 22:38 kathryn I'm at home, missing out on bubbles and strawberries 22:38 kathryn I heard some plaintive cries from Frida's bedroom - see you later! 22:38 kathryn *hear 22:38 eythian Bye! 22:39 kathryn :) 22:40 cait1 merry christmas to you too eythian :) 22:42 wizzyrea happy christmas eythian 22:42 cait1 happy christmas wizzyrea :) 22:42 wizzyrea and cait 22:42 wizzyrea and everybody 22:45 magnuse god jul, #koha! 22:56 wizzyrea god jul, magnuse 22:57 cait1 fröhliche weihnachten :) 23:00 wizzyrea fröhliche weihnachten cait! (I didn't know the german for that!) 23:01 wizzyrea (I did know the norwegian though!) 23:03 cait1 of course.. the german is loooong :) 23:03 cait1 especially compared to the norwegian :) 23:04 wizzyrea hehe yeah 23:20 cait1 fröhliche weihnachten LibraryClaire :) 23:20 cait1 good night all 23:22 LibraryClaire frohe weinachten cait1 23:22 LibraryClaire ach, missed 23:35 wizzyrea bag http://gizmodo.com/9-maps-that-show-how-completely-bizarre-your-christmas-1749490826