Time Nick Message 23:29 francesca Something to look forward to :-) 23:29 francesca Xmas decorations and cards next week 23:26 wizzyrea okie dokie 23:20 francesca I'm working all day today 23:20 francesca I'm not going to be able to get into the office till next week 23:20 * francesca waves 23:01 kidclamp rangi++ 23:00 dcook very bad 22:48 wizzyrea bad, mkay. 22:48 wizzyrea and uh, we don't want to encourage libraries to do that. 22:48 wizzyrea in the opac 22:48 wizzyrea currently you can't do that without logging in as them 22:47 bag hmm that’s a good idea wizzyrea 22:43 cait1 :) 22:39 wizzyrea Huh. We really ought to have a "reviews" or "comments" view for the staff client. I can think of at least one library that would love to be able to add reviews on behalf of borrowers. 22:20 cait1 lists just got rewritten mostly... let's see what Joubu says tomorrow 22:20 cait1 sounds like it might be a general problem 22:18 wizzyrea error messages popping up where they shouldn't be, in conditions that don't match up 22:18 wizzyrea but v sloppy looking 22:18 wizzyrea yeah it's quite broken, though not entirely non-functional 22:17 cait1 i promised Jonathan 22:17 cait1 as soon as people sign it again 22:17 cait1 i am on standby to qa it 22:17 cait1 hm bit worried about your screenshot really... 22:16 wizzyrea and if they're just testing that, they might not spot them. 22:16 wizzyrea (because people will spot bugs when they are trying to do other stuff, is the only reason) 22:16 wizzyrea I know someone who has exported more than 1 winnebago database 22:15 jrm trying to get winnebago to export material in a format that either koha or even marcedit can understand is becoming a serious pain in my a$$ 22:15 wizzyrea idk, I think I'd rather everyone working on top of that than try to do it in parallel. 22:14 cait1 wizzyrea: maybe fix the known errors first :) 22:14 wizzyrea that's a familiar situation to me :) 22:14 jrm the librarian I'm inhereting it from haas done wonders to clean things up, the previous librarian did not have a clue as to what cataloging even really was 22:14 wizzyrea in that case we should do it now 22:13 jrm ty wizzyrea lol this old system is awful 22:11 cait1 and poking at it 22:10 cait1 so we can make use of as much time as possible 22:10 rangi i agree 22:10 cait1 possibly january - befor the new features go in 22:10 cait1 that's why we should push this early 22:10 cait1 yeah 22:09 wizzyrea there are a lot of pages, a lot of conditions. 22:08 wizzyrea bit worried about the staff client though 22:08 wizzyrea yeah 22:04 cait1 we will just have to poke at this until we stop shaking out bugs :) 22:03 cait1 I think Joubu will be glad for finding it 22:00 wizzyrea cait1: I suspect there's gonna be a lot of stuff like that lists thing in the staff client 21:54 wizzyrea I'm so sorry. 21:54 wizzyrea spectrum/winnebago. 21:53 cait1 sounds like you are making progress :) 21:51 jrm i have been slowly trying to transfer eveything over from the ancient spectrum/winnebago system I inherited lol 21:47 cait1 :) 21:47 jrm YAY 100% import this time around 21:43 jrm nice, i hope so! clearing patron list now, going to reupload again and we'll see 21:43 cait1 i remember seeing those, so comma lines would do the same i guess 21:42 cait1 jrm: often a blank line at the end might also create a false warning 21:42 cait1 good to hear :) 21:42 bag afternoon all (I got some awesome sleep - I slept 16 hours!) 21:42 cait1 yes, the last line sould be your last patron 21:42 cait1 it might be 21:42 jrm this may be my 750 no cardnumber cardnumbers 21:41 jrm ok another question, when i open my csv file in a text editor, should my last patron record be the last last thing in the file? im going to assume so because i have many many many extra lines of comma's afterward 21:39 cait1 hope you can figure it out 21:39 jrm time to inspect the empty space below the spreadsheet date i guess, see if theres a linguring something somewhere 21:36 jrm nope first one is #2 21:36 jrm i wonder where the extra 350 come from 21:36 cait1 did you start off with negative values? ;) 21:36 cait1 oh 21:36 jrm hmmm 21:36 jrm how can i have 3029 records with my last # being 2679 21:36 cait1 ah, what's happened? 21:35 jrm as im typing this out i see a problem 21:35 cait1 there is a pref for cardnumber length - did you set that by chance? 21:34 jrm pretty much with a handful that have been weeded out due to deaths 21:34 cait1 2..2679? 21:34 cait1 your cardnumbers are just counted upwards? 21:34 cait1 sorry, i don#t understand 21:33 jrm 2313 of the list import just fine 21:33 jrm ranging from patron #2 up to #2697 21:32 cait1 do they vary in length? 21:32 jrm no duplicates 21:32 jrm nope they are all individual 21:32 cait1 inside your file? 21:31 cait1 things you can check: is the cardnumber doubled up? 21:31 cait1 hm currently not 21:30 jrm is there a more detailed error report somewhere that I can find that will tell me which cardnumbers are not cardnumbers 21:29 jrm I have checked and rechecked and cannot seem to find the discrepency 21:29 jrm out of a list of 3029 patrons i get an error on 715 of them stating cardnumber is not valid cardnumber 21:29 cait1 what's the problem? 21:28 jrm awesome, I'm having an issue importing patrons into koha 21:28 cait1 sure 21:28 jrm anyone live in here right now? 21:27 jrm hello 21:18 wizzyrea :) 21:18 wizzyrea bye :0 21:17 kathryn later! 21:17 wizzyrea hehe 21:17 kathryn omg wizzyrea , no. NO. 21:17 wizzyrea "santa's got a present for you, little girl" eek. 21:15 eythian Must be 21:13 * wizzyrea is 12 inside 21:13 wizzyrea >.> 21:13 wizzyrea is that a euphemism? 21:12 kathryn he really is. 21:12 cait1 :) 21:12 kathryn back later :) 21:12 kathryn gotta go, Santa is expecting me! 21:12 kathryn hi eythian and cait1 :) 21:11 wizzyrea hehe excellent 21:11 eythian Had beers with work people, on the sneltram home. You know how it is. 21:10 wizzyrea sup 21:10 eythian Hi 21:00 wizzyrea hehe 21:00 cait1 hm. 21:00 cait1 workflow? 21:00 cait1 dev workflow? 21:00 cait1 developer workflow? 20:59 wizzyrea developer workflow 20:46 cait1 hi wizzyrea :) 20:44 andreashm hi wizzyrea! 20:43 wizzyrea hi 20:36 cait1 hi LibraryClaire :) 20:33 LibraryClaire hi cait 20:27 andreashm how's it going? 20:27 cait1 hi andreashm! 20:27 andreashm hi cait1! 20:27 * cait1 waves 20:25 * andreashm has been struggling with matching rules lately. and thinking about whether holdings records in Koha would be a good idea or not. 20:23 andreashm drojf: well, lots of interest is always great! =) 20:20 drojf it was, but i am a little tired now :) anyway a lot of interest, which is nice 20:20 andreashm =) 20:20 andreashm drojf: sounds nice! 20:19 drojf not much over here. had a lot of long days and talked to librarians about koha for hours 20:17 andreashm what's up? 20:13 andreashm hi drojf! 20:13 drojf hi andreashm 20:13 JesseDhammu thanks 20:12 JesseDhammu ok ill cheeck 20:12 * andreashm waves 20:12 pianohacker JesseDhammu: yeah, there should only be your Koha site in there 20:11 drojf well on weekends it's less 20:11 JesseDhammu what should this command return. only one enabled site ..? 20:11 drojf there is pretty much always someone online here 20:10 JesseDhammu i wonder if anyone will be online by then at this channel 20:10 JesseDhammu im from India and its 1:39 AM here so ill go to office tomorrow and check that 20:09 pianohacker JesseDhammu: When you get a chance to look at the server, run ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ and see if there's anything else in there 20:05 JesseDhammu and i also remember disableing the default site 20:05 JesseDhammu pianohacker: yes i did that several times 20:00 pianohacker JesseDhammu: Are you positive you restarted apache after running the a2dissite command? 19:59 drojf i would not know anything beyond that, because that is the reason you don#t see the opac 19:58 JesseDhammu so we need to run it locally 19:58 JesseDhammu coz there is no domain name registered. 19:58 JesseDhammu no its IP based 19:58 JesseDhammu but if the problem still presist what could be the next troubleshooting action ..?? 19:57 drojf if you set up a name-based configuration, the default site does not interfere 19:57 JesseDhammu ill try to do that again 19:57 JesseDhammu so ill try it once i start the server. 19:57 drojf if that worked you would not have a default page running, i guess :D 19:57 JesseDhammu right now the server is not online .. im at home and that is in the office 19:56 JesseDhammu i did that while installation ... 19:56 drojf and then restart apache 19:56 drojf you can do "a2dissite 000-default" (or just default on older systems) 19:55 JesseDhammu ok so you mean i need to manually do that .!? 19:55 drojf there is no default page on :8080 19:55 JesseDhammu ?? 19:55 JesseDhammu but if that is the case how come the admin pannel works on port 8080 19:55 drojf others disagree on that topic ;) 19:54 drojf apache has a default page. the easy way is to disable that for a local installation 19:54 JesseDhammu thats why i can see the default http page of apache on port 80 19:54 JesseDhammu ports are open 19:54 JesseDhammu local ip 19:52 drojf JesseDhammu: is it a local/ip-based installation or did you use domain names? 19:47 JesseDhammu its just showing the default apache page "It Works" 19:47 JesseDhammu but opac dosent show up 19:47 JesseDhammu so problem is my staff client works 19:46 JesseDhammu i have done everyting preciesely as mentioned in koha wiki installation document 19:46 JesseDhammu hello i have a problem in my new installation 19:05 pianohacker ashimema: we just found out it'll make our lives easier, so we're thankful 18:50 ashimema but nice to see it going in :) 18:49 ashimema wow that's an old one :) 18:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12216 enhancement, P4, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , One should be able to override zebra configuration on a per instance basis 18:24 pianohacker bug 12216 18:24 pianohacker ashimema++ 17:35 drojf lol 17:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15393 critical, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , I have encountered some bugs while using KOHA. When two or more people are create and send batches at the same time, they get mixed up because they were all using the same batch number at the time but on different computers. How can this error be rectifie 17:32 oleonard Wow Bug 15393 has quite a title. 16:00 reiveune bye 15:33 kidclamp Hi oleonard 15:30 oleonard Hi #koha 14:54 * mveron hopes that translatablility bugs will be pushed soon, we have really loads of odd translations. 14:48 mveron cait: Thanks for the info :-) 14:42 cait drojf: make sure you stop the import times :) 14:41 jajm drojf, not sure, but i will take a look ;) 14:41 cait kyle or bag 14:41 cait mveron: we need kyle to push the patches first i think 14:25 drojf GND is >11 14:25 drojf like 20 million maybe 14:25 drojf yes! fun! :) 14:24 cait ... of course.. it's only a few million records 14:24 drojf why? that sounds great :D 14:24 cait that sounds painful 14:24 cait ugh? 14:23 drojf there is a new harddisk waiting at the office. then i can set up koha with the whole GND and DNB data :D 14:23 drojf should better not touch it now :D 14:22 drojf but i'm really tired today 14:22 drojf thanks. most of it works fine. got a new version of the data, which should be cleaner now. don't expect any trouble 14:22 cait crossing fingers for the migration then :) 14:21 drojf cait: doing migration until friday. then back to the bug tracker :) 14:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, In Discussion , Letsencrypt option for Debian package installations 14:18 cait bug 15303 14:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15305 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED INVALID, KOHA SIP2 checkout doesn't update of the item holding status 14:18 cait bug 15305 14:18 drojf jajm: would you consider 15303 for 3.22? it only touches debian scripts and adds a second apache config. or is it too feature-y? 14:18 cait some low hanging fruit available? 14:17 cait drojf: what's the status on the performance patches? 14:17 cait pretty impressed how fast everyone got started on their new jobs 14:17 cait rmaints++ btw 14:17 drojf i mean i dont want to translate. lol 14:17 cait he can still push non-string patches 14:17 cait yess? 14:15 drojf noooo 14:15 jajm time to translate! :p 14:11 cait timely string freeze :) 14:11 jajm cait, ? :) 14:10 cait jajm++ 13:32 LibraryClaire hi magnuse :) 13:31 magnuse hiya LibraryClaire 13:27 LibraryClaire afternoon #koha :) 13:20 drojf hi mveron :) 13:12 * mveron waves 12:51 magnuse bgkriegel++ 12:51 tcohen hi cait! 12:50 cait morning tcohen :) 12:50 tcohen morning 12:42 cait bgkriegel++ again - signing off the xss patch 12:15 cait hm probably 12:14 drojf i understand the problem (and agree in general). i still think the wording is inappropriate 12:14 cait bgkriegel++ 12:13 cait but the user group only accepts proposals from the US (as i understand it) 12:13 cait canadians are north americans 12:12 drojf why do i read this? 12:12 drojf canadians are a race? 12:11 * drojf tries to make a 3.8 joke 12:06 drojf hi #koha 11:09 mveron lunch 11:05 mveron magnuse: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Berlin_Kohacon_Warmup_2016 11:02 mveron cait :-) 10:59 cait mveron++ 10:25 ashimema us brits are used to taking passports with us ;) 10:24 ashimema no harder than moving around on the continent in my experience.. 10:24 ashimema it's not especially hard to get to the continent.. 10:21 * magnuse has not been to a kohacon since nz in 2010 :-( 10:21 magnuse Joubu: that's what i thought too :-) 10:18 Joubu ashimema: the hard part of UK people is to go to the continent, isn't? So if you are already in France, you have done 3/4 of the job :p 10:17 ashimema I'll just have to talk the family into a nx holiday next year ;) 10:17 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:17 Joubu @later tell khall could you have a look at bug 15391 please? 10:16 ashimema oh well.. these things happen.. 10:16 ashimema It's rangi and tcohen who I really doubt will make Marseilles and I'd miss the most.. not managed to catch up with them in person for ages 10:15 ashimema hehe 09:56 magnuse kia ora cait 09:56 magnuse ashimema: ooh, you could go to marseille while everyone else is in thessaloniki 09:56 magnuse but yeah, lots of people will probably only go to the con 09:55 magnuse i hope to catch both marseille and thessaloniki 09:48 ashimema though I bet allot of the people I'd like to catch up with won't be at marseille 09:48 ashimema I'm pinning my hopes on Marseille now.. hopefulyl I can get a gaggle of people there.. 09:48 ashimema at that point 09:47 ashimema a 7 year old and a 16 month old ;) 09:47 ashimema lol.. the other half would kill me magnuse ;) 09:24 magnuse ashimema: i suspect there might be flights from france to greece ;-) 09:24 * magnuse waves 09:12 Joubu too bad :-( 09:09 ashimema so much for sending 3 of us this year! 09:09 ashimema and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the other can't make it either.. 09:09 ashimema I would guess (but haven't asked yet) that at least one of my colleagues will be in the same position. 09:08 ashimema it's squarely in the middle of school holidays here.. I have a trip to france booked so can't attend 09:08 ashimema yup 09:00 Joubu ashimema: you will miss it?? 09:00 cait Joubu: sounds somehow like a fishy recipe... 08:59 * cait is upset for you too 08:59 cait undertsandable :( 08:59 Joubu and you new Koha version is ready 08:59 Joubu in the oven 180°C for 6 months 08:59 Joubu I am gonna put 1 spoon of 3.8.5, 1 cup of 3.16.42 and a pinch of master 08:57 * ashimema is still a tad upset that kohacon coincides with school holidays next year :( 08:57 ashimema morning 08:45 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha 08:45 cait morning Joubu 08:35 Joubu hi 08:32 francescam Night #koha 08:03 eythian Hi 07:59 reiveune hello 07:59 alex_a bonjour 05:20 dcook Ahh Mojolicious isn't required anyway.. 04:45 dcook I could reeeeally use a non-blocking HTTP user agent 04:44 dcook Or couldn't do what he wanted it to do anymore 04:44 dcook Written after he decided that Catalyst had reached a dead end I think? 04:44 dcook Written by the guy who wrote Catalyst 04:44 dcook Or rather.. 04:44 dcook Based on the Catalyst framework 04:44 dcook It's been added to Koha for the REST stuff 04:44 dcook Perl framework 04:44 francescam Mojolicious? 04:42 dcook Or at least can be non-blocking.. 04:41 dcook Because apparently Mojo::UserAgent is non-blocking... :D 04:41 dcook Surely it must be 04:41 dcook I wonder if Mojo::UserAgent is part of that... 04:40 dcook Hmm the whole thing? 04:40 * dcook wonders how much of Mojolicious has found its way into Koha.. 04:39 mtompset Have a great day, #koha 03:22 rangi for about 8 minutes more yes 03:22 wizzyrea rangi ^ 03:21 Amit_Gupta chris around? 01:31 wizzyrea yeah just don't 01:23 * dcook actually isn't even going to even 01:22 dcook 3.8.5?