Time Nick Message 04:33 bora hello, any one can tell me how to upgrade koha to latest version 3.20? 04:50 bora_ anyone can help me 04:50 bora_ i want to upgrad koha version to the latest v3.20 04:50 bora_ please help me ? 11:42 xarragon Is it possible to hand off a resultset from a dbix::rs::search operation to TT's foreach loop? 11:43 xarragon Or do I have to manually convert it to an array manually? 11:56 xarragon Ah, I see. I need to use a while loop instead of foreach 12:25 drojf hi #koha 12:45 cait hi drojf :) 12:46 cait @later tell tcohen hm spanish bug report - 15356 - could you take a look maybe? 12:46 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 12:47 drojf hi cait. doing the sunday shift? :) 12:48 cait not sure.... but trying to empty out the inboxes :) 12:48 drojf we accept spanish bug reports? :P 12:48 drojf there would be a market for bug reports in germany too, probably 12:51 cait not sur we do, but i thought maybe a nice ' we don't ' in spanish would work better 12:51 cait was also not sure where to point htem too to report a problem in spanish if need be 13:22 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 13:22 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 31.2°C (10:20 AM ART on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising). 13:22 tcohen brrr 13:22 drojf hi tcohen 13:23 liw @wunder torrevieja 13:23 huginn` liw: The current temperature in Acequion, Torrevieja, Spain is 17.3°C (2:22 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). 13:23 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 13:23 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 5.0°C (1:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 13:23 drojf i would switch with both of you ;) 13:24 liw no need to switch, you can come here, plenty of space in this town 13:24 liw also, beaches if you like that kind of thing 13:26 drojf tempting! 13:28 tcohen yeah, i'll prepare the asado 13:28 cait @wunder Konstanz 13:28 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 8.0°C (2:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 13:28 * liw wants to visit Friedrichshafen some day, for the Zeppelins 13:29 cait :) 13:29 cait I went there with eythian - there was an event at the dornier museum and we saw the zeppelin land opposite 13:29 cait they are pretty cool to look at 13:29 cait youcan also see them fly around here all the time 14:08 tcohen Joubu: I discovered why i introduce that weird hidden character on this damn OS 16:15 eythian liw: yeah, it was pretty cool 16:17 * cait waves 16:38 liw eythian, I envy you! 16:39 eythian Didn't go for a ride in one as it was pretty expensive. Who knows, maybe next summer ☺ 16:40 cait :) 16:51 liw eythian, :) 18:30 magnuse @wunder boo 18:30 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 18:31 eythian Chilly 18:31 eythian @wunder amsterdam 18:31 huginn` eythian: Error: No such location could be found. 18:31 eythian ... 18:32 eythian @wunder amsterdam, netherlands 18:32 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 7.2°C (7:30 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 18:32 eythian That's not the closest location to pull data from, I'd have thought 18:53 cait @wunder Konstanz 18:53 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 18:53 cait hm 18:53 cait weird place heretoo 18:54 * magnuse high-fives cait 18:54 cait :) 18:54 drojf @wunder berlin, germanxy 18:54 huginn` drojf: Error: No such location could be found. 18:54 drojf heh 18:55 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 18:55 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 19:00 eythian cait: it must take the latest nearby or something, given you've had two different places. 19:00 cait hm not really 2 different probably 19:00 eythian drojf: you should visit Amsterdam, it's not that cold 19:00 eythian cait: they have different names 19:01 cait eythian: but that one was completely new and it's not as close as others it usually shows 19:01 cait saint gallen-altenrhein? 19:01 cait ah. and Friedrichshafen 19:01 eythian Yeah 19:01 cait both are a unusual 19:01 drojf eythian: not sure if i'd travel for 1° vs 7° ;) 19:01 cait maybe they changed something? 19:01 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:01 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 19:02 eythian Right, which is why I suspect it's the latest result 19:02 eythian drojf: time to find out for sure! 19:05 drojf true :D don't think this year has time left for me to travel. but i'd love to come visit in 2016 19:06 drojf it will be cold enough to test for quite a while :P 19:08 eythian Yeah. I'm hoping to get to Norway between Christmas and new year's roughly. That'll be good and cold. 19:08 drojf oh nice! 19:08 eythian Probably should buy a scarf. 19:08 drojf where do you wanna go? 19:08 eythian A uni friend lives about an hour by bus out of Oslo. 19:09 eythian May have to see it magnuse is free too ☺ 19:11 eythian (my current boots have pop out spikes for ice, I need a chance to test them out. Dunno how I found them in Wellington, it never freezes there.) 19:12 eythian Suppose they'd also be good for muddy bush tracks 19:23 rangi morning 19:24 cdickinson_ well, I guess I forgot to turn off my computer at home 19:45 mveron Hi #koha 19:45 mveron @wunder Allschwil 19:45 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 3.0°C (8:30 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 19:46 rangi hi mveron 19:46 mveron Hi rangi 19:46 mveron :-) 19:46 * mveron is hunting down translation issues... 19:46 rangi always fun :) 19:47 cait he is on a mission :) 19:47 mveron Yes indeed. Sometimes translations sound lik done ba a robot... 19:48 mveron cait: Yes, we cant sell a ILS with odd translations to schools :-) 19:51 rangi eythian: https://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/23608437681/in/album-72157659970319023/ 19:52 eythian Shut up 😉 19:52 rangi hehe 20:12 wizzyrea hi 20:21 rangi @wunder nzwn 20:21 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 20:30 eythian Hi wizzyrea 20:31 wizzyrea ^.^ hi 20:38 xarragon Am I really supposed to hand-code and hand-sanitize form field input? Or are we using some sort of framework to handle that? 20:40 wizzyrea gonna have to be specific about the context there 20:40 wizzyrea which form field, where 20:42 cait1 there is some javascript library to use client side I think - for required fields and similar (and that answremight not make sense because context :) ) 21:01 xarragon wizzyrea: I am adding a new feature to Koha, some of the data is edited in a form. I based it off the news script. 21:02 xarragon And I need to perform some massaging of the data, null value in the form is an empty string, but should be NULL in the database. Thus I need to check the input and convert it.. 21:03 xarragon And I am wondering if that is the right way, or should I change the DB schema.. or use something Like HTML::FormHandler? 21:03 drojf evening 21:04 xarragon drojf: Good evening. 21:06 drojf hi xarragon 21:08 drojf rangi: are you taking over ES integration from eythian? i think i read that somewhere, but maybe i made it up :D 21:09 rangi yep, for the most part 21:14 drojf rangi: i can hardly resist doing a proof of concept for fulltext search, now that we have file upload and will get ES. i tend towards a separate index, not stuff it into the biblio record. any ideas against or in favour of that? 21:14 jcamins drojf: I recommend using Solr. 21:15 cait1 ? 21:15 drojf jcamins: two gateways to lucene on the same server? 21:17 rangi drojf: separate ES index is how I would do it 21:17 rangi drojf: same index for mixing metadata ... but splitting metadata and data into different indices makes sense to me 21:18 drojf rangi: thanks. thats how i started too, then i was wondering if i was just complicating things 21:18 jcamins drojf: oops, sorry, I didn't finish my thought. 21:18 cait1 is there a wayto combine indexes for searching in ES? 21:18 jcamins drojf: and also perl-lucene and xalan. 21:18 jcamins And sphinx. 21:18 cait1 hm I think that's what sharding does in solr? 21:18 jcamins And... ummm... 21:19 jcamins I have only proposed five full-text search engines so far, and I might've made up one of them. Surely I can do better. 21:19 rangi xapian jcamins 21:19 drojf its one of several "todo under the christmas tree while i am not eating" projects. there won't be much time without me eating ;) 21:19 jcamins rangi: drat, I meant xapian not xalan, didn't I? 21:20 jcamins Oops. 21:20 jcamins swish-e! 21:20 jcamins drojf: so, yeah, I recommend using all of those for maximum parallelisation. 21:21 drojf jcamins: sounds great, will check it on the pi zero 21:23 drojf one of them per search engine. cloud! 21:24 drojf eythian: trains to amsterdam start at 39€. that's not too bad 21:25 cait1 lucy? 21:25 cait1 i just like the name :) 21:42 eythian drojf: it's all a pretty small place really. 21:44 eythian I'd be inclined to put content for full text search into the regular index, but perhaps not search it by default, as it'll cause prioritisation problems with just bibliographic records possibly. 21:45 drojf i would have a separate fulltext search for now. we have metadata for a reason, nobody wants to read the whole contents by default to find whats relevant ;) 21:48 drojf i don't know what a lot of uploaded files and search thereof will actually do to koha. it's not supposed to be a repository. but with recent development it seems not to be a huge step to try… well. i'm curious 21:49 eythian Yeah. I have mixed opinions. Mostly I think something is needed to prevent electronic works being siloed. 21:49 drojf and i want to play with elasticsearch, that is how it actually started. i play better with a goal ;) 21:50 wizzyrea ^ most people do 21:50 eythian And if that's best done through a system that people are already using, it may be worth sacrificing the purity of just being a metadata system. 21:51 drojf first thing i would like to have is adding fulltext, being able to find related record. that does not mean the actual pdf or whatever needs to be hidden in koha somewhere 21:51 eythian Fair enough. Full text searching was one of my "it should be used for this" thoughts. 21:52 eythian It will suit it well, even more if you can add semantic info that's not in the biblio record already. But that's probably hard. 21:59 drojf there are people carefully digitizing stuff and spending hours correcting ocr results. thats something i have in mind for the beginning. things like "automatically rip broken text from pdf" are not that interesting. and once there is fulltext availabe, yeah there could be done all kinds of cool stuff with it 22:38 drojf good night #koha 22:44 rangi @later tell tcohen do you want me to set up the 3.22.x jenkins jobs? 22:44 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded.