Time Nick Message 23:45 chrisvella_ I found a video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xGi3NTckxs but no further information. 23:45 chrisvella_ Hi. Does anyone know about auto-complete/search suggestions in Koha? 23:40 dcook I guess they mean identical call number too? 23:40 dcook $a is location but $h is call number.. 23:40 dcook "Sequence numbers 1 and 2 provide a display sequence for related holdings records that have identical locations recorded in field 852 subfields $a and $h" 23:40 dcook The documentation doesn't even make sense.. 23:37 dcook We're going to sequence 4 records, but between those 4 records, we only use the numbers 1 and 2 23:37 dcook Actually, that's interesting... 23:33 dcook Or anyone who perfectly catalogued them 23:33 dcook I sometimes wonder if there has ever been a library system which actually perfectly processed MARC records 23:32 dcook Of course, different holdings records should be aware of each other according to MARC... 23:32 dcook See $8 Sequence Number http://www.loc.gov/marc/holdings/hd852.html 23:31 dcook You could reliably re-calculate linkage numbers I think 23:30 dcook If Koha stored holdings records like it stores item records and just adds them at indexing time... 23:30 dcook Actually, the linking thing... 23:26 dcook Although I suppose that's the rub 23:25 dcook And if you can map your own local format to/from a standard format for interchange purposes... 23:25 dcook I sometimes think the lack of standards being introduced by Linked Data is a bad thing, but sometimes it seems like a great chance to innovate 23:25 dcook MARC-- 23:12 pianohacker same, actually :) 23:10 dcook Making up for lost time 23:10 dcook I was actually a very quiet child/preteen :p 23:10 dcook I was going to say I'm only typing, but I suppose we have spoken in person a bit... :p 23:10 pianohacker dcook: he's also more physically capable of going quiet ;) 23:09 dcook I see something I've worked on, and I blab way too much 23:09 dcook He's wiser than me 23:09 dcook hehe 23:09 pianohacker he also has this habit of going quiet when I ask about it, for _some_ reason 23:09 dcook Yeah, I'm trying to make this OAI harvester as robust as possible.. 23:09 pianohacker jcamins has dug around in there, he knows 23:09 dcook :( 23:08 dcook And really... it seems like it was always pretty local anyway 23:08 pianohacker and authorities... aren't too conceptually difficult but the code is fragile 23:08 dcook I think the cataloguing discipline has fallen by the wayside in recent years 23:08 pianohacker nengard may, uh, have slightly influenced this philosophy :) 23:08 dcook When it really should have just yelled at me 23:08 dcook Yeah, MarcEdit broke on me a few times yesterday 23:08 dcook ^ 23:07 pianohacker (yeah, the latter) My philosophy is that if people catalog wrong, Rancor shouldn't break but it should yell at them 23:07 dcook But as the person not doing it, I wish you all the luck 23:07 dcook Authorities shouldn't be too bad :p 23:07 dcook Or do you mean support for linking 880 fields with others in Rancor? 23:07 dcook I wish you luck 23:07 dcook The 880 linked fields shouldn't be bad... so long as people entered the data according to spec 23:06 pianohacker this is giving me the heebie-jeebies :) 23:06 dcook That would be awesome 23:06 wahanui authorities is http://www.loc.gov/marc/uma/index.html 23:06 pianohacker and authorities 23:06 pianohacker I still have to write support for 880 linked fields 23:06 dcook pianohacker: Didn't mean to overwhelm with text :p 23:03 dcook Unless you weren't using the content from Zebra for display, but yeah... rabbit hole... 23:03 dcook While you could merge your separate records into your bibliographic record for indexing, you'd have issues with display due to those bad linkages 23:02 dcook Of course, that brings us back to this current issue 23:02 dcook But I think the biggest obstacle was indexing 23:02 dcook pianohacker: Actually, I found an old thread where people had talked about supporting MARC21 Holdings back when the switch to MARC was made 23:01 dcook It supports embedded ones 23:01 dcook Well, supported separate MARC21 Holdings records 23:01 pianohacker hey, hey now 23:01 dcook Actually, it wouldn't be bad if Koha supported it 23:01 dcook pianohacker: MARC21 Holdings hurts my brain 23:01 wahanui okay, dcook. 23:01 dcook which are also linked differently to each other within that holdings record 23:01 dcook And each holdings record can have multiple 852 and 866 23:01 dcook So I might have 4 holdings records linked to 1 bibliographic record 23:01 pianohacker *blink* this does not make a lot of sense, but I've never worked with MARC21 Holdings 23:00 pianohacker thanks a lot, bot 23:00 huginn` pianohacker: [Described in full under field 866 in the MARC 21 Concise Format for Holdings Data.] (Repeatable) [] 23:00 pianohacker @marc 866 22:59 dcook The hard part is that you want to preserve the current linkages while also adding a unique whole number.. 22:59 dcook A reliable way of re-writing linkages* 22:59 dcook I'm trying to figure out a way of re-writing linkages between 852 and 866 fields for multiple holdings records before merging them into a bibliographic record O_O 22:58 dcook hehe 22:58 pianohacker I wrote a report like that earlier today 22:58 pianohacker hehe 22:53 dcook "too clever" being a bad idea :p 22:53 dcook On an unrelated note, that moment when you can't tell if what you're thinking is very clever or too clever 22:50 wizzyrea though I don't remember specifically why I think that 22:50 wizzyrea I seem to recall that he's kind of odd anyway :) 22:50 * wizzyrea doesn't doubt that myshkin would be odd. 22:47 jcamins Sticky side *up* if your cat is walking on your ceiling. 22:47 jcamins I mean, up. 22:46 jcamins I mean, sticky side down if you're worried about a ceiling cat. 22:46 wizzyrea was not expecting sticky side down 22:46 jcamins He loves packing tape, but won't stand on duct tape. 22:46 wizzyrea i can totally see sticky side up 22:46 dcook Weird.. 22:46 jcamins Yeah. 22:46 wizzyrea really! 22:46 jcamins No, sticky side down. 22:46 jcamins My cat doesn't like walking on duct tape. 22:46 wizzyrea presumably sticky side up? 22:45 wizzyrea for keeping cats away 22:45 jcamins Yeah. 22:45 wahanui i heard duct tape was versatile. 22:45 dcook jcamins: duct tape? 22:45 dcook Of course "(3" referes to Arabic and $1 is CJK 22:45 jcamins wizzyrea: duct tape works too. 22:45 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Script identification code - but of course..." (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/210 22:34 * dcook leaves everyone in suspense on that one 22:33 dcook Oh, that reminds me.. 22:33 dcook Well, it deters them momentarily now, but they're stuck in their ways 22:33 dcook I think that may have worked better in the early days with our boys 22:32 wizzyrea the louder and more hissy the sprayer, the better. 22:32 wizzyrea that one never fails. but you do have to be vigilant. 22:32 wizzyrea resistant cats should be dealt with by water sprayer :P 22:31 Francesca back in a bit 22:31 wizzyrea well that is a problem of placement :P 22:31 dcook We covered some baby stuff with tinfoil and one of the cats still went on it 22:31 Francesca yes or bat at it from the top of the stairs 22:31 dcook wizzyrea: It only seems partially true though 22:31 wizzyrea I've heard that cats don't like to walk on it bc it is crinkly 22:31 dcook Although they could jump into the tree still... 22:31 Francesca I shall pass that on 22:31 Francesca hmmm tempting 22:31 dcook ^ 22:31 wizzyrea Francesca: maybe surround the bottom with tinfoil so they won't want to walk close enough to climb the tree? 22:31 Francesca anyways I have to go do stuff now 22:30 dcook I would if I did 22:30 dcook hehe 22:30 Francesca if you get round to it, post it in here 22:30 Francesca that'd be funny 22:29 * dcook doesn't have enough time in the day 22:29 dcook Maybe even 'shop in a bunch of lolcats into the pit of snakes.. 22:29 dcook I suddenly had the urge to take a clip of the "Snakes... it had to be snakes" bit from Indiana Jones and dub over it saying "Cats... it had to be cats" 22:29 wahanui The only good cat is a stir-fried cat. 22:29 Francesca wahanui cats 22:29 Francesca so we had to take the big spike off the top before it was destoryed 22:29 dcook Cats... 22:28 Francesca but our cats are attacking it 22:28 Francesca we have 22:28 dcook Haven't put up our christmas tree yet O_O 22:28 Francesca yummy christmas tree 22:28 dcook hehe 22:27 wahanui :) 22:27 Francesca wahanui botsnack christmas tree 22:27 wahanui christmas is when you go to the beach and have a barbeque. 22:27 Francesca wahanui christmas 22:27 * wizzyrea pats wahanui 22:27 wahanui i haven't a clue, dcook 22:27 dcook wahanui piza? 22:27 wahanui wizzyrea: huh? 22:27 wizzyrea wahanui probably has a log 22:27 dcook Of course it would be partially digested.. 22:26 dcook hehe 22:26 kidclamp can we see everything he's eatrn? wahanui barf? 22:26 * dcook just can't say no to a good UTF8 problem 22:26 wahanui :) 22:26 Francesca wahanui botsnack pizza 22:26 dcook Well, maybe not lazy so much as torn in too many other directions anyway 22:25 dcook I was lazy not writing the original email for the Text::Unaccent stuff too :p 22:25 wahanui :) 22:25 wizzyrea wahanui botsnack biscuit 22:25 wizzyrea yay 22:25 wahanui thanks wizzyrea :) 22:25 wizzyrea wahanui botsnack cookie 22:25 wizzyrea nope. 22:25 wizzyrea botsnack cookie 22:25 wizzyrea hm. 22:25 wizzyrea botsnack 22:22 kidclamp he's a good bot 22:21 * wizzyrea is very lazy and knows wahanui knows what she is thinking of 22:20 wizzyrea yeah I was checking :) 22:20 kidclamp but he is not there :-( 22:19 wahanui irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 22:19 wizzyrea irc regulars 22:19 kidclamp I think 22:19 kidclamp ztajoli++ 22:17 dcook Not sure what Zeno's handle is but ++ to Zeno too 22:16 dcook gmcharlt++ 22:15 dcook Hmm my email isn't working. Maybe it doesn't want me to read the listserv.. 22:14 dcook Ah, I missed a departure.. 22:14 dcook Not sure about the floor space though... 22:13 dcook drojf: I pay more than that for my place in Sydney :p 21:52 wizzyrea due to lack of actual participation 21:51 wizzyrea also just that whole thing, it's a fundamental lack of understanding about how we do things. 21:49 eythian Yes 21:49 eythian Heh 21:46 wizzyrea possibly *the most* appropriate shruggy use ever. 21:43 wizzyrea ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 21:37 eythian [off] Does he realise that (IIRC) he's not a koha developer, and so shouldn't be trying to change fundamental development workflows? 21:34 eythian Ah 21:33 wizzyrea oh, devel 21:33 eythian I just see oleonard posting. Maybe the archives are missing it 21:32 wizzyrea lol! 21:31 eythian Maybe I should invent some pseudonyms 21:30 wizzyrea suffice to say, our favourite bad-advice troll is loving that you're not smacking him down all the time. 21:29 wizzyrea lol 21:29 wizzyrea no, I don't think you want to. 21:29 eythian I should gander at the archives 21:28 eythian Heh 21:28 wizzyrea ^.^ 21:27 gmcharlt ;) 21:27 gmcharlt wizzyrea: indeed, you should be suitably sorrowful for that... 21:27 * wizzyrea apologises for the annoying alliteration 21:26 wizzyrea eythian: we are missing your spectacular smackdown skills. 21:25 pianohacker that was _extraordinarily_ diplomatic on galen's part, yeah 21:25 eythian This place is fairly dense, that might take a few weeks ;-) 21:24 wizzyrea Besides, we have to wait for you to find all of the best places to go :D 21:17 wizzyrea e* 21:17 wizzyrea which could be a little while, but it is a thing I suspect we will prioritis 21:17 wizzyrea as soon as we possibly can :) 21:17 eythian wizzyrea: so when are you coming to visit? 21:00 wizzyrea gmcharlt++ 20:49 cait1 ah yeah 20:49 cait1 heh :) 20:49 eythian Maybe I'll bike it to Germany some day or something. 20:49 eythian Taking my my good one from NZ, but it's really not a commuter bike here. Too fast, to likely to be stolen. 20:48 eythian Yeah will get one when I actually move, most likely. 20:47 cait1 ... and you absolutely need a bike 20:43 wizzyrea sweeeet 20:43 eythian wizzyrea: about 30 mins walk or about 10 bike 20:33 cait1 heh 20:32 wizzyrea (not Koha) 20:32 wizzyrea grump: websites that use link blue for things that aren't links. 20:31 wizzyrea how far from work? 20:29 eythian Yeah ☺ it'll probably be temporary until I get stuff together to furnish my own place. But I can take time with that. 20:27 wizzyrea well a place to put your stuff anyway :) 20:27 wizzyrea yay a home! 20:24 eythian I saw places at half the size that were only 100 less 20:23 eythian That's a quite good price for the place here 20:21 cait1 hehe i had a very similar thought about here :) 20:20 drojf and i thought berlin was expensive :O 20:17 cait1 looks reall ynice :) 20:15 cait1 eythian: rent... wow 20:12 magnuse eythian: congrats! 20:04 cait hi kathryn :) 20:04 kathryn hi cait :) 20:04 kathryn nice, eythian :) 20:03 * cait waves 20:03 eythian Well, in two weeks, anyway 20:02 eythian I have new digs: http://www.pararius.com/apartment-for-rent/amsterdam/PR0001263009/frederik-hendrikstraat 20:02 kathryn how's things? 20:02 kathryn hi eythian :) 20:02 eythian Hi kathryn 19:53 drojf woohoo 19:52 magnuse there, 27 customers upgraded in 16 minutes 19:42 drojf heh 19:41 magnuse good thing i usually use this laptop with an external keyboard... 19:41 magnuse s/potimal/optimal/ 19:41 magnuse huh? 19:41 magnuse not potimal, certainly 19:39 drojf but if that is everywhere, that is not too good 19:39 drojf have not tried on another instance 19:39 magnuse ooh 19:39 drojf had to disable the advanced editor in sysprefs to do that 19:38 drojf i went into cataloguing (standard editor, but advanced enabled in options), tried to change the framework, ended up in advanced editor 19:38 magnuse yeah, time flies 19:37 drojf oleonard: 3 hours was really short 19:37 magnuse what was the bug? 19:37 magnuse hehe 19:37 drojf lol talked for hours, confused now 19:37 drojf during presentation 19:37 drojf err 19:37 drojf i already found a bug. live during translation :D 19:37 magnuse hehe 19:37 drojf do it! 19:36 * magnuse upgrades customers to 3.20.6, but is itching to get to 3.22.1 and plack... 19:36 magnuse moin drojf 19:27 drojf hei magnuse 19:27 * magnuse waves 19:06 kidclamp oleonard: apparently it is random for the day, but then static once one is chosen 18:56 * oleonard thought it was random, but doesn't actually use it. 18:55 kidclamp hey koha, is there anywhere to configure QOTD as random? I see where GetDailyQuote accepts it, but not anywhere you can push it through 18:48 drojf hi #koha 18:26 cait good evening eythian 18:26 eythian Good morning cait 18:06 Shane-S cloning Koha repo now 18:06 Shane-S kidclamp: wow...I shoulda went to lunch..think I am going now 17:51 eythian Hi 17:49 kidclamp keeping my fingers crossed 17:46 Shane-S taking longer this time...good sign I hope 17:45 gaetan_B bye 17:43 Shane-S but I do batch scripts...think I would have known better 17:43 Shane-S what I get for not coding in 5+ years 17:42 Shane-S bah...darn these variables...i guess they are all strings 17:41 kidclamp what I would have said 17:41 Shane-S trying up again 17:41 Shane-S I just did destroy 17:41 kidclamp no worries, doing my best to help 17:39 Shane-S sorry to bug you so much 17:39 Shane-S or would I just do vagrant down? 17:39 Shane-S oh said box is already running...so it must have started with that script error before 17:37 Shane-S boo...something must have went wrong..should I delete the VM? 17:37 Shane-S kidclamp: :( no localhost:8080 let me check 127 17:35 Shane-S should have known better...;) 17:35 kidclamp :q 17:35 kidclamp I have double, but single might work SHane-S 17:35 kidclamp yup, quotes 17:34 Shane-S so I did git_full_name: Shane S should it be "Shane S' or 'Shane S'? 17:33 Shane-S kidclamp: well nope..one more...got an error on the .yml file, on the bz_user: line with a caret under the colon...I suspect the line above, my git_full_name: is the issue...do I need to put that in quotes? 17:32 nengard why not? I see it working ... i thought ... 17:30 * oleonard finds that URLLinkText doesn't work with XSLT 17:30 nengard hehe oleonard 17:29 kidclamp Shane-S yup 17:25 oleonard ...great minds and all that 17:25 Shane-S guessing kohadevbox since it has Vagrantfile 17:25 oleonard nengard: ....which is just what you said in the bug. Never mind :) 17:23 Shane-S maybe my last ?, do I need to be in a specific directory to vagrant up? 17:23 oleonard nengard: Seems like you'd need to either set a global preferences like URLLinkText or add a subfield where you could put custom text 17:22 kidclamp huzzah 17:20 Shane-S okay NOW I have vars 17:18 kidclamp yeah 17:18 Shane-S ty 17:18 Shane-S kidclamp: oh okay...thats missing from getting started... 17:18 kidclamp been a while since I did the setup 17:18 wahanui rumour has it git pull is really simple 17:18 kidclamp git pull 17:18 kidclamp git checkout -b ansible origin/ansible 17:18 kidclamp git checkout origin/nasible 17:17 kidclamp after those lines you need to do: 17:17 kidclamp $ cd kohadevbox 17:17 kidclamp git clone https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox.git 17:17 Shane-S but there is where I am lost, I did all the getting started...unless I missed something on a 3rd party site 17:16 Shane-S I am down to the first "Usage" part 17:16 Shane-S kidclamp: I am following https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/tree/ansible the ansible site directions (OS X) don't have me git anything 17:15 nengard if you add it to the item subfield u 17:15 oleonard nengard: Under what circumstances do you see that url column in the holdings details? 17:14 wahanui hi, nengard 17:14 nengard hi 17:13 kidclamp Shane-S I admit it takes getting used to, but once you are set you can destroy/create new boxes with one command 17:13 oleonard nengard around? 17:13 kidclamp to get the ansible branch 17:13 kidclamp did you git checkout ansible? 17:10 Shane-S I feel like i could have had a package version installed by now... 17:09 Shane-S config.cfg-sample maybe? 17:09 Shane-S kidclamp: still no directories or .yml file in kohadevbox 17:04 Shane-S I typed it worng 17:04 Shane-S nm 17:04 Shane-S uh...i did git clone http:...kohadev.git, I have a kohadev folder, not a kohadevbox, and it has no /vars/ folder 17:02 kidclamp {wherever you cloned}/kohadevbox/vars/user.yml 17:00 Shane-S kidclamp: where is the vars/user.yml file? 16:59 mveron bye #koha 16:58 wahanui guests are here! 16:58 * mveron Guests... 16:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, In Discussion , Error pages: Code duplication removal and better translatability 16:58 * mveron will check later if there is a comment on Bug 15288 regarding QA concerns about people who might have their error pages customized. 16:55 Shane-S doing ansible now.... 16:53 kidclamp the only thing that would remain would be your kohadevbox clone, the koha cloen would be inside the vm 16:51 Shane-S I just want it to be clean in the vm, so if I delete it from VB it is all gone, not a git clone file sitting somewhere 16:50 kidclamp I don't know if anisble does a shallow or full clone (it's about 1 gig or so if so) 16:50 kidclamp or clone koha onto your drive and then to the export SYNC_RPOE 16:50 Shane-S I just ask cause I only have a 256Gb SSD...limited space 16:50 kidclamp you can eithe rlet it do a clone into the vm automagically 16:49 Shane-S does it move the git clone files into the vm file? 16:49 kidclamp lots of magic and koha is runnning at the end 16:49 kidclamp and poof 16:49 kidclamp from the kohadevbox dir 16:49 kidclamp or wheezy etc 16:49 kidclamp but yeah, with all of that set up you should then just: vagrant up jessie 16:47 kidclamp I have only done this on Ubuntu 16:47 kidclamp and yes, git to clone kohadevbox :-) 16:47 kidclamp oh, you need ansible on Mac too 16:45 Shane-S would I have the VM running and install git there? 16:45 Shane-S kidclamp: so...installed virtbox, and vagrant, site says I need ansible and git and to clone...then I do the vagrant stuff after the vars/ step...I am lost sorta 16:26 kidclamp Shane-S you need only install vagrant and virtualbox and configure the setup files. Vagrant will take care of getting your guest OS etc 16:26 reiveune bye 16:24 * Shane-S is off to see wizard the wonderful wizard of...oh snap I think I broke it 16:24 Shane-S guess I have to try and fail to get that "ah-ha" moment 16:23 Shane-S maybe I am not understanding vagrant... 16:20 Shane-S hmm reading that.."what you get" seems misleading...unless I am not understanding vagrant right...you have to do the initial OS/VM install first and then install vagrant on that right? 16:15 Shane-S ty 16:15 Shane-S oh okay, will check it out 16:15 kidclamp https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/tree/ansible 16:14 kidclamp ansible branch works very nicely 16:14 kidclamp try kohadevbox Shane-S - simplifies a lot of the setup 16:14 Shane-S oh well time to see how much free ram my macbook pro has...if I can load it with virtualbox/ubunut and maybe finally grasp git to get a development version to break ;) 16:12 ashimema I love the thinking there Shane-S 16:11 Shane-S darn it...i wanted lottery #s so I could just call up and pay you guys for the plugin...now I gotta learn ubunut/git/vmware[virtualbox]/perl/javascript (beyond onclick and get elementbyid 16:08 nengard fixed 16:07 nengard hehe 16:07 nengard never ever 16:07 khall looks like nengard made a typo ; ) 16:06 khall heh ; ) 16:06 Shane-S khall: P.S. http://bywatersolutions.com/2013/01/23/koha-plugin-system-coming-soon/ what is the future like in 3013!!!, can you tell me the winning lottery number for this week? ;) 16:02 Shane-S khall: on the database side...if I need a custom table, is that suggested/doable, or would it be best to store data in a flat file? 16:01 Shane-S khall: hmm, okay, maybe this is doable. Okay I will do that. 16:00 khall you can check out my coverflow plugin, it adds javascript to the opacuserjs system preference 16:00 khall not unless you make it 16:00 Shane-S khall: would that syspref change get overwritten with an update? 15:59 khall that's how the EDS plugin works for example 15:59 khall Shane-S: yes, you can make a plugin interact with other parts of Koha, but you need to add javascript to the sysprefs to do so 15:59 Shane-S I track all my IT assets in Koha...and right now I have to arrange paper to make a 'damage trail', doesn't sound too complex from my end...but I only know Php/MySQL...some some language barriers for me...never been much with jquery web2.0 stuff 15:57 Shane-S behind the scene it would have to flat file (or ideally DB) store the item id , patron id, user if, note, and date 15:57 Shane-S the idea I had, was a broken page icon labeled "Damage Report", on the checkin/out screen...(once you scanned an item) and you could then click it would expand to a form entry (just a text box and maybe a patrod ID box) so you could enter a note and press save 15:56 cait just thinking loud, hope it makes some kind of sense 15:55 cait if you send the itemnumber with the link, it could offer a ready to enter screen maybe? 15:55 cait to your plugin page 15:55 cait you could use jquery to add a link to the returned items table 15:55 cait Shane-S: hm let's say it was a report 15:54 Shane-S *defeated* then I can't use it to quickly track and enter damage reports, that would add a log record with item id/patronid/user id/ note and be reportable 15:54 cait i mean adding as an option 15:54 cait but maybe if the hook was general enough, we could do something like that? 15:54 khall right now it can add a tool, a report, or convert files to marc 15:53 khall Shane-S: no, the plugin system can't do that right now 15:53 Shane-S wait s/then/than.....I failed grammar 15:53 Shane-S khall...*blinks* http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/master/en/html-desktop/#pluginsystem ....its a paragraph...i needs more info then that ;) 15:51 nengard Shane-S let's ask khall :) 15:51 wnickc F=friendly 15:50 * Shane-S just had a daydream of people muttering RTFM 15:49 Shane-S so watching Kyle's video, a plug in is limited to the "plugins" page, or can it go further and add a feature to the check-in/out screens (even if it is a floating div or something) 15:39 Shane-S cait: thank you, I just need to see what is involved, and how separate/integrated they need to be from/with Koha 15:37 cait also here. http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_plugins 15:36 cait some examples can be found here: http://bywatersolutions.com/koha-plugins/ 15:36 cait hm that was not what i was looking for :) one sec 15:36 wahanui plugins are just enabled or disabled with Wordpress, aren't they? 15:36 cait plugins? 15:34 Shane-S where would I find information about making an "Add-On". cait suggested I might want to look into making on for my idea of damage reports/tracking 14:08 mveron ...and hi everybody :-) 14:08 mveron Joubu ^ 13:55 magnuse is there a bigger danger that people customized the error pages than any other pages? 13:47 mveron I fixed it and streamlined code, we need now a feedback on Bug 15288 because there are QA concerns about people who might have their error pages customized. 13:46 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, In Discussion , Error pages: Code duplication removal and better translatability 13:46 magnuse bug 15288 13:45 mveron Um diesen Fehler zu melden, können Sie E-Mail an den Koha-Administrator. 13:45 mveron We have a transalatability issue in the error pages, e.g. 404 in German: 13:41 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 6.0°C (2:30 PM CET on December 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). 13:41 mveron @wunder Allschwil 13:41 mveron Hi #koha 13:36 magnuse ;-) 13:36 magnuse oh here is a bad one too: 12-31-2015 13:35 magnuse lulz 13:35 wahanui de nada jcamins 13:35 jcamins Thanks, wahanui. 13:35 jcamins -15? Yeah, that would be worse. 13:35 wahanui -15 13:35 jcamins 01-15-01? 13:35 jcamins 01-15-Jan, maybe? 13:34 jcamins Hmph. I think I could come up with a worse date format. 13:29 cait t 13:29 cait yeah... one can not help to wonder what they were thinking programming tha 13:25 oleonard magnuse: That date format one is pretty bad! 13:16 magnuse this is right up there with my fave ils date format, which was 01-jan-15 13:13 magnuse ooh, the email address is actually stored in the column called... PhoneNumber! i love it! 13:13 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (1:50 PM CET on December 10, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady). 13:13 magnuse @wunder boo 13:11 cait oh - i was starting to get a little jealous ) 13:11 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0°C (2:00 PM CET on December 10, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037 hPa (Falling). 13:11 Joubu (from 2 to 3pm...) 13:11 cait @wunder Konstanz 13:11 Joubu Youhou, they forecast sun for tomorrow!! 13:10 cait heh 13:09 * oleonard jumps out of his chair when a random jcamins appears out of nowhere 13:07 jcamins oleonard: I prefer entering "No email address" in the BorrowerPhoneNumbers table in the email field and putting an email address in the phone number field in the BorrowerDemographics table. 13:04 oleonard magnuse: Better or worse that putting "No email address" in the email address field? 13:04 cait ... which wouldn't make sense... 13:04 cait it probably predates emails? 13:04 cait heh 13:03 magnuse ooh yeah, let's stick the email addresses in the table called BorrowerPhoneNumbers, that makes sense 13:03 cait hm has closing an invoice any effect besides it being closed? 13:02 cait rebel :) 13:02 * oleonard bangs some pots and pans 12:59 ashimema quiet in the library 12:50 magnuse ssshhhh... 12:49 cait quiet day today 12:49 cait hi oleonard 12:48 oleonard Hi #koha 10:19 vfernandes hummm ok cait... thank you 10:17 cait i just checked - it's possible in 3.18 using the system preference and then in 3.20 with the circulation conditions 10:16 cait i think the system preference is opacitemholds - the old one. But i think it your version it hax probably only 2 options and not the third to enforce item level holds 10:16 cait vfernandes: i thik it's not possible in 3.16 - i am sorry 10:15 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:15 Joubu @later tell oleonard I am waiting an answer on bug 15314 to continue QAing the other bootstrap modal patches. 10:11 vfernandes this installation will be upgraded soon 10:08 wahanui 3.16 is pretty old by now 10:08 vfernandes 3.16... 10:08 cait which version are you using? 10:07 cait it was moved from a system preference into the circulation matrix 10:07 cait I think you can in 3.20... maybe earlier 10:07 vfernandes yes 10:07 cait do you wnt to only allow item level holds? 10:06 vfernandes it's possible to turn off the hold of the next available item? 10:06 vfernandes hi :) 09:49 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:49 Joubu @later tell tcohen plack.psgi also disables the syspref cache! 09:28 Joubu hi 09:02 cait hi magnuse 09:01 magnuse g'day cait 08:52 cait morning #koha 08:29 magnuse gah, still utterly dark outside 08:01 gaetan_B hello 08:00 wahanui niihau, alex_a 08:00 alex_a bonjour 07:59 reiveune hello 07:34 cait kia ora 07:34 magnuse kia ora cait 06:50 * magnuse waves 02:39 huginn` wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 02:39 wizzyrea @later tell oleonard hi, I miss you, and I have a question - should we come up with an interface pattern for the staff side search area that always shows check out, check in, search the catalogue, and always defaults to the active module's search (but keeps them in order)? I feel like this is a necessary thing, what do you think? 02:38 wizzyrea Hrm. 02:16 wizzyrea hah no 02:16 dcook At least by comparison 02:16 dcook Wasn't working no matter what I tried... eventually realized it was a bug, updated to LibreOffice 4, and it worked like a dream 02:16 dcook Did I ever tell you the story of trying to print labels on LibreOffice 3? 02:16 dcook Label creators seem like a tough one to get right 02:15 dcook I'm behind the times, so I don't know 02:15 dcook hehe 02:11 wizzyrea (I hope) 02:11 wizzyrea and be like "dafuq this is so much better now" 02:11 wizzyrea and then they'll go back to the old version 02:10 wizzyrea they'll hate it and then they'll get used to it 02:10 wizzyrea it'll be like twitter 02:10 wizzyrea (good or bad) 02:10 * wizzyrea wants to know what people think 02:10 wizzyrea oh, has anybody heard anything from the users regarding the label creator? I guess that's pretty new. 02:09 wizzyrea we could make it so much better >.< 02:07 dcook I still get flummoxed by it 02:07 dcook Oh I can only imagine.. 02:06 wizzyrea (until you get used to it) 02:06 wizzyrea I feel like it has to be really flummoxing. 02:06 wizzyrea to go into a library and watch the users try to use acquisitions 02:05 wizzyrea I would love, love. 01:23 wizzyrea you all have possibly already talked about this 01:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14673 major, P3, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Renewals cause Sipserver to crash 01:23 wizzyrea I wonder if bug 14673 has to do with our SIP double statuses 01:23 wizzyrea huh 01:19 dcook As that's the official port for Z39.50... 01:19 dcook Oh I'm silly, I should have tried port 210... 01:02 dcook Cool beans ^_^ 00:59 dcook Why even have MARCXML as an option if it's just going to break.. 00:59 dcook Yep, that was it 00:59 dcook That was my earlier problem.. 00:59 dcook Maybe it can't handle MARCXML.. 00:59 dcook Oh, I think I might know.. 00:58 dcook This is so frustrating.. 00:57 dcook Crap... I was able to get the Z39.50 connection over TCP, but now MarcEdit won't download the records.. 00:56 dcook Although, as you say, I don't think it would make sense then either 00:56 dcook messages* 00:56 dcook But I clearly missed earlier messagse 00:55 dcook Yeah, I was confused as to what he was talking about... 00:54 wizzyrea see also: toxic masculinity. 00:53 wizzyrea he's butthurt that a girl told him that he's not useful. 00:52 wizzyrea this email is a response to that. 00:52 * dcook thumbs up 00:52 wizzyrea in reasonably nice words 00:52 wizzyrea I sent him a private email saying "you are not helping" 00:52 dcook I'm surprised I'm actually crafting this reply at the moment, but I do want to learn more about MarcEdit integration, as I think it could be useful for librarians.. 00:52 dcook To be honest, I've been too distracted to view the listserv much 00:51 dcook Yeah, eythian was the best at that 00:51 dcook :( 00:51 wizzyrea and eythian was quite good at smacking paul down, have you noticed that since he sent his farewell paul's messages have increased in frequency? 00:50 wizzyrea we got rid of the last one, quite pointedly. 00:50 wizzyrea there's always one 00:50 wizzyrea yeah we only have one 00:49 dcook The trolling is actually fairly rare 00:49 dcook Errr... at least that's how I feel about it.. 00:49 wizzyrea no reason not to sign up for them 00:49 dcook "koha list" is a place where you can help people out and feel good about yourself :) 00:49 dcook francesca: The koha-devel one is usually handy 00:49 dcook Sometimes think about choosing from 49152–65535 but then what happens if your server goes down, something else decides to use one of those ports dynamically and then you try to restart and you can't use that port? 00:48 francesca if you can do that 00:48 * francesca should probably look at signing up for the mailing list 00:48 dcook Admittedly, I wish I knew more about the convention of choosing TCP ports for stuff.. 00:47 dcook And it wasn't in use anyway.. 00:47 dcook Even though there's nothing official registered against 3000 00:47 dcook But I'm sure for some reason that's going to be dreadfully awful 00:47 dcook Port 9998 wasn't working for me, so I used port 3000 00:47 dcook Actually, almost definintely 00:47 dcook Probably 00:47 dcook haha 00:46 wizzyrea yeah, he'll troll it 00:46 dcook Possibly overly technical... 00:46 dcook I think this MarcEdit email I'm writing to koha list might actually be helpful.. 00:46 dcook Maybe I'll compensate for some trolling 00:45 wahanui You can subscribe to the Koha mailing list at https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha it is hosted by Katipo Communications. 00:45 wizzyrea koha list 00:45 francesca captain trollface? 00:44 wizzyrea no, I am talking about captain trollface 00:41 dcook As you could use SRU or Z39.50 over TCP... 00:40 dcook Should be more like __ZEBRA_TCP_HOST__... 00:40 dcook Interesting... __ZEBRA_SRU_HOST__ is a bit of a misnomer.. 00:39 pianohacker yeah, I hoped it wasn't THAT shocking :) 00:39 cait :) 00:39 cait pianohacker: i think she is not tlaking about your bug 00:38 pianohacker que pasó 00:38 wizzyrea oh. my. god. 00:38 wizzyrea omg. 00:35 huginn` 04Bug 15347: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , itemcallnumber syspref does not work when adding items through acquisitions 00:35 pianohacker http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15347 00:33 pianohacker kk :) 00:33 cait i don#t remember a bug 00:32 cait hm? 00:26 wahanui it has been said that wizzyrea is so dumb at rewrite rules. 00:26 dcook or wizzyrea 00:26 dcook pianohacker: Alas, no idea. cait might know. 00:26 dcook Interesting... 9998 is blocked but I was able to get through on a lower port... 00:25 pianohacker that gives a bib-level subfield that should be copied into the itemcallnumber 00:25 pianohacker sorry, I should clarify that I mean the _syspref_ itemcallnumber 00:25 dcook Like not saving? 00:25 dcook How do you mean not working? 00:24 pianohacker totally unrelated to that. Does anyone know of a bug for itemcallnumber not working in the acquisitions items screen, before I file a dup? 00:23 pianohacker ... 00:16 dcook [off] Just read it... 00:13 dcook I suppose it could be a router level thing... 00:12 dcook All which should have access to that IP address and port.. 00:12 dcook Hmm it accepts the TCP connection on the server, but not from another server or from Windows..