Time Nick Message 00:55 wizzyrea gmcharlt++ for awesome advice. 02:15 rangi any bywaterians around? 02:16 thatcher heybywater ? 02:16 wahanui i heard bywater was a great place to work! 02:16 rangi the git server needs looking at 03:02 mario-away hello rangi 03:03 mario the git server is good to go 03:04 mario have a good night 03:05 rangi thanks 03:13 bag wow :) 03:13 bag mario++ 03:13 bag @karma mario 03:13 huginn bag: Karma for "mario" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. 03:14 dcook Read that as "bag o' karma" 03:15 bag HA - yes - I give out lots o’ bags o’ karma 03:15 dcook hehe 03:15 bag That’s going to be my quote from now on :) thanks dcook 03:16 bag my wow was cause everyone’s been gone from “work†for hours now - preparing for a good meal tomorrow 03:22 wizzyrea "work" 03:22 wizzyrea ? 03:26 bag those were air quotes man 03:28 bag ah it was a hardware failure on one of the nodes. moved to a different host 03:33 wizzyrea ew 03:36 bag wizzyrea: have you seen the pieincakes yet? 03:36 wizzyrea hm, I don't think so 03:36 bag cool one sec 03:36 bag http://iconosquare.com/p/1125639832994349113_12197591 03:36 bag omg!!! 03:37 bag http://iconosquare.com/tag/pieincake 03:37 wizzyrea oh, pie in cakes 03:37 bag :D 03:37 wizzyrea no, I had not seen that 03:37 wizzyrea I read pLeincakes 03:37 wizzyrea and I was like, wtf is a pleincake 03:38 bag turducken 03:38 wizzyrea those look yum 03:38 wizzyrea but with cake! 03:38 bag amazing 04:11 rangi hmmm 04:42 Francesca hello 04:42 wahanui salut, Francesca 06:03 eythian @wunder Amstelveen 06:03 huginn eythian: The current temperature in v. H. Goedhartlaan, Amstelveen - North, Amstelveen, Netherlands is 4.3°C (7:03 AM CET on November 26, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 06:07 Francesca hey eythian 06:07 Francesca hows Amstelveen ? 06:15 eythian I don't know, I'm currently over Iran. 06:17 Francesca oh ok 06:20 eythian It's where I'll be in several hours though :-) 06:28 Francesca eythian: thats cool, hows Iran? 06:30 eythian From 38,000 feet it looks hilly :-) 06:32 dcook select '2015-11-03 21:06:00'::timestamp at time zone 'UTC' at time zone 'UTC'; 06:32 dcook That has to be the stupidest thing ever... 06:33 dcook The first "time zone 'UTC'" tells postgres that the string is in UTC 06:33 dcook But then it converts it into local time from UTC... 06:33 dcook So you need the second UTC to tell it to actually convert it back to UTC again 06:33 dcook O_O 06:33 * dcook twitches 06:33 * dcook waves to eythian 06:33 dcook Missed my complaining yet? :p 06:34 dcook Guess how long that little gotcha took to figure out.. 06:34 dcook Of course, if Postgres were just set up to use UTC time instead of local time... that would be reasonable 06:35 dcook That sentence didn't make sense 06:35 dcook Boo Postgres set up for a local timezone... yay Postgres set up to use UTC as its standard 06:38 dcook You also can't seem to get epoch from a utc timestamp 06:38 dcook You have to get it from a timestamp with a timezone on the end... 06:38 dcook And it's not smart enough to figure out a lack of a time zone is utc.. 06:38 Francesca hi dcook 06:38 dcook yo 06:38 dcook Just leaving before I fill the logs full of anti-postgres stuff 06:38 dcook :D 06:47 eythian A timestamp without a tz may or may not be utc. Postgres doesn't know. 06:49 * magnuse feels sorry for eythian - on a plane when i went to sleep and still on a plane when i wake up 06:50 magnuse same plane? 06:51 eythian different plane :-) 06:51 eythian This one is a short trip, only 7 hours. 06:52 magnuse ah 06:52 * magnuse feels less sorry for eythian 06:52 magnuse how long was the first one then? 06:53 eythian First was 4,then 14. 06:54 eythian This is also the last. 07:01 magnuse yay 07:02 magnuse i had 2 12 hour flights from auckland to london, the last one was looong 07:02 magnuse and we had to circle above london for an extra hour 07:02 magnuse that is the longest hour of my life so far... 07:03 eythian Yeah, we had to do a go round at Melbourne due to going weightless for a moment from bad weather. 07:07 magnuse yikes 07:40 magnuse Oak 07:40 reiveune hello 07:40 wahanui hey, reiveune 07:41 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:41 reiveune salut magnuse 07:53 alex_a bonjour 07:55 Oak magnuse 07:55 Oak bonjour Monsieur alex_a and reiveune 07:59 Oak Hello cait ! 07:59 reiveune salut Oak 08:00 Joubu hi 08:00 wahanui salut, Joubu 08:00 Oak hello Joubu 08:20 * cait waves 08:30 * Francesca waves 08:37 cait it's releade 08:37 cait hm 08:37 cait it's release day! 08:38 gaetan_B hello 08:45 magnuse @arewethereyet 08:45 huginn magnuse: YES! 08:45 magnuse \o/ 09:08 Francesca jenkins is down 09:26 kirtybs12 hey guys 09:26 kirtybs12 i installed koha yesterday and i am getting the software error when i try to open the login page at localhost 09:27 kirtybs12 ?? 09:30 gaetan_B hi kirtybs12, which error are you getting ? what did you install koha on and how ? 09:30 kirtybs12 i am getting this error - Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 793. 09:31 kirtybs12 and i installed koha on ubuntu via the packages as per the wiki page 09:31 kirtybs12 thats one error , i am getting 2 09:31 kirtybs12 complete error - Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 793. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 89. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25. 09:32 kirtybs12 and where is the server log file located? 09:33 gaetan_B this i don't know, i have never used packages (altough you should), are you pointing your browser to localhost:8080 ? 09:33 gaetan_B or just localhost ? 09:33 kirtybs12 yeah ? 09:33 kirtybs12 localhost :8080 09:33 gaetan_B then i don't think i can help, maybe someone else will know ;) 09:35 kirtybs12 sure, thanks anyway 09:36 kirtybs12 any help guys ? 10:00 eythian cait: I'll be flying near you in a bit. Climb a tall tree and wave! 10:50 xarragon When I build stuff that uses "internal" functions, hidden insidde a module.. Do i write unit tests for these internal functions, or only for the externally visible API? 10:54 cait eythian: heh 10:59 eythian cait: I didn't see you waving! 11:00 cait toally did, you need new glasses 11:00 eythian I literally have new glasses. 11:01 cait hmm... then you might have looed in the wrong spot 11:01 cait visiting my dad currently 11:01 cait anyway, landing soon? 11:02 eythian Where is that? 11:02 eythian Yep, about an hour or so to go. 11:02 eythian Oh, half an hour. I'll be slightly early. 11:13 cait eythian: howis the jet lag? feeling awake enough to get to your accommodation? :) 12:28 tcohen hi 12:28 tcohen networking issues :-/ 12:29 * tcohen might move to a bakery nearby to release 12:29 magnuse go tcohen go! 12:29 magnuse and ¡hola! 13:00 ashimema :) 13:12 magnuse kia ora ashimema 13:55 tcohen happy thanksgiving! 14:24 magnuse tcohen: happy releasday ;-) 14:24 tcohen thanks magnuse 14:24 tcohen almost there 14:26 magnuse yay! 14:26 magnuse @arewethereyet 14:26 huginn magnuse: YES! 15:03 tcohen and.... 16:37 * cait waves 16:37 cait has it happened yet= 16:37 cait ? 16:37 drojf hi #koha 16:37 cait hi drojf :) 16:38 drojf hi cait 16:38 drojf why the ? 16:38 drojf ? 16:38 drojf :D 16:42 cait because it was missing at the end of my question :) 16:42 cait has it happened yet? 16:43 drojf what? 3.22? when is release time in argentina? :) 16:44 cait not sure :) hopefully soon ;) 16:48 drojf german release notes: "plack-unterstützung direkt aus der kiste". or maybe i will do that tomorrow instead ;) 16:51 cait heh 16:54 reiveune bye 17:26 gaetan_B bye 18:49 tcohen hi 18:49 wahanui hey, tcohen 18:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Koha 3.22 and beyond <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a225d7a2048d8c7ee6b1b550e829b143eff5a4d1> / Release notes for 3.22 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=efd2f8c37cd69ab2ab3d7823893240a058ab2e91> / Translation updates for Koha 3.22.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=546593b234ace8403a477ff7db7b953bb5f8b91c> 18:51 tcohen rangi: sort of, I wasn't sending the announcement yet (had to leave) so I didn't push master for people not to notice it until I have the announcement ready 18:58 rangi @later tell fredericd sorry I think I have mislaid your ssh key, could you please send it again 18:58 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 19:28 cait ah, now i missed tcohen 19:34 magnuse but we have a 3.22! 19:34 cait confetti! 19:34 wahanui i heard confetti was https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif 19:34 cait confetti! 19:34 wahanui confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 19:34 cait confetti! 19:34 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 19:34 magnuse confetti! 19:34 wahanui well, confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 19:34 cait aah :) 19:34 magnuse confetti! 19:34 wahanui hmmm... confetti is https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif 19:34 magnuse confetti! 19:34 wahanui confetti is https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif 19:35 magnuse confetti! 19:35 wahanui confetti is https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif 19:35 magnuse confetti! 19:35 wahanui well, confetti is https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif 19:35 magnuse confetti! 19:35 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 19:35 cait wahanui being stubborn :) 19:35 wahanui cait: what? 19:35 magnuse \o/ 19:35 magnuse yup 19:35 magnuse tcohen++ 19:35 cait tcohen++ community++ 19:35 magnuse 3 releases in a row! 19:35 cait nice, new and shiny release! 19:35 magnuse community++ 19:35 cait might be a record :) 19:35 magnuse possibly! 19:36 rangi its a record since we moved to time based ones for sure 19:36 rangi tcohen++ 19:38 cait :) 19:43 magnuse is anyone picking up the es work after eythian? 19:43 magnuse kia ora tcohen! 19:43 magnuse you are now a free man! ;-) 19:43 tcohen hey 19:43 rangi probably joubu and I magnuse 19:44 tcohen i'm on 3g 19:44 tcohen this has been the most difficult release announcement of the three heh 19:44 magnuse rangi: nice! 19:45 cait tcohen++ 19:46 tcohen community++ 19:46 tcohen cait++ 19:46 tcohen Joubu++ 19:46 tcohen :-D 19:46 cait Joubu++ :) 19:46 cait brb 19:46 tcohen congrats cait 19:53 bgkriegel tcohen++ 19:56 magnuse bgkriegel++ 19:58 cait bgkriegel++ :) 20:00 drojf sure, release koha right when i am on the way home. now i missed it all :P 20:01 magnuse party all night long! 20:02 drojf alright then! 20:03 drojf tcohen++ 20:03 drojf koha++ 20:03 kathryn morning 20:03 kathryn morning/evening/howdy 20:04 drojf oh there is till beta stuff left in the announcement email 20:04 drojf Debian packages for this beta will be available soon on the unstable repository. 20:04 magnuse oops :-) 20:05 magnuse drojf: i saw a tv programme from somewhere in denmark where people greeted each other with "mojn" :-) 20:11 drojf magnuse: awesome! :D 20:47 wizzyrea more confetti! 20:47 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 20:48 magnuse \o/ 20:48 wizzyrea tcohen++ 20:50 magnuse @karma tcohen 20:50 huginn magnuse: Karma for "tcohen" has been increased 225 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 225. 20:51 magnuse woohoo! 20:55 kathryn congratulations everyone. especially big piles of gratitude to tcohen :) 20:58 magnuse can we start pestering bag now? ;-) 21:09 cait i'd guess so :) 21:09 cait baaaag...! 21:13 Francesca good morning 21:13 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 21:13 cait hi Francesca :) 21:13 Francesca sup 21:54 wizzyrea magnuse, about? 21:55 cait kinda latehere now :) 21:55 wizzyrea I figured 21:55 wizzyrea I was hoping someone who had set up pbuilder was around. 21:57 drojf set up for what? 21:57 wizzyrea building Koha packages 21:57 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages#Configuring_Pbuilder <-- used that eh, changing squeeze for jessie (but leaving squeeze-dev for koha) 21:58 drojf i used violence to change it to jessie 21:58 drojf i only remember it was a big fight 21:58 rangi well this is a brand new one, not upgrading one 21:59 drojf it looks much easier than whatever i did :) 21:59 rangi :) 21:59 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way I think he followed this one 22:00 drojf isn't squeeze-dev unstable these days? 22:00 wizzyrea and it seems everything should be set up right but it's complaining about dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (native)': native package version may not have a revision 22:00 drojf i had that 22:00 rangi ahh thats not a pbuilder thing 22:00 drojf its the name you give the version 22:01 rangi yeah 22:01 drojf don#t have -1 or something 22:01 drojf it drobve me crazy 22:01 wizzyrea well we've tried several things 22:01 drojf *drove 22:01 wizzyrea I think that was one of them. 22:01 drojf something like 3.22~beta worked ok, but it did not like - 22:01 wizzyrea but will redouble efforst 22:01 wizzyrea efforts 22:02 wizzyrea drojf++ for having ideas 22:02 wizzyrea rangi++ for always knowing things 22:25 drojf good night #koha