Time  Nick        Message
00:12 dcook       eythian: Ha! Another long email!
00:12 dcook       Fortunately this one is more on point... and actually solicited :p
00:24 eythian     dcook: I don't see it
00:25 dcook       Hmm maybe it hasn't been sent out yet
00:25 dcook       I have a bit to add to it anyway..
02:21 tcohen      hi
02:21 wahanui     privet, tcohen
02:27 eythian     gmcharlt_: is there anything you need to know about the package release process? You have the GPG key for it?
04:08 dcook       I thought that the package installs automatically backed up Koha?
04:08 dcook       Or is that a cronjob you have to automate yourself?
04:10 dcook       Yeah... cron.daily/koha-common
04:10 dcook       koha-run-backups --days 2 --output /var/spool/koha
04:11 dcook       Beauty
04:11 eythian     yeah, all automagic
04:14 dcook       Just the way I like it
04:42 Amit_Gupta  hi all
05:56 dcook       4 minutes to clear my inbox!
05:56 dcook       Can I do it?
05:56 * dcook     shakes his head but tries anyway
07:19 fridolin    bonjouuuuur
07:22 mveron      Good morning / daytime #koha
07:33 * magnuse   waves
07:34 magnuse     dcook: Ctrl-A + Delete?
07:51 reiveune    hello
07:54 Joubu       hi
07:57 jajm        hi
07:57 wahanui     kia ora, jajm
08:06 alex_a      bonjour
08:16 gaetan_B    hello
08:18 * cait      waves
08:25 * magnuse   waves back
08:53 Koha_IM     Hi... First time here!!
08:53 Koha_IM     Need Help in deleting catalog records (after batch record, item deletion)... can anyone help?
08:55 Koha_IM     ??
09:02 Joubu       Maybe, what's your question?
09:07 Koha_IM     I imported some data as a test into KOHA and it was successful... After the test i deleted it
09:07 Koha_IM     using batch record and item deletion in the tools section of KOHA
09:08 Koha_IM     I can still see those books in the OPAC and the intranet access
09:09 Koha_IM     I also ran rebuild_zebra.pl with "-b -r -v -x" the command prompt said cleaned but still these records are pressent
09:10 cait        did you empty out the database totally?
09:14 Joubu       Do you access to the detail page?
09:17 Koha_IM     @cait Yes i did
09:17 huginn      Koha_IM: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
09:19 Koha_IM     @Joubu..detail page? sorry I am completely new to Koha learning it to catalog a charity based library
09:19 huginn      Koha_IM: I suck
09:20 Joubu       What happen when you click on the title link from the result page?
09:23 Koha_IM     it says "The record you requested does not exist"
09:24 Joubu       So the records are still indexer and correctly deleted. How did you install Koha? Which version are you using?
09:24 Joubu       indexed*
09:25 Koha_IM     I am using Koha version 3.20.02.000
09:26 Koha_IM     Koha was installed for this library by a local software company whose support ended after that.
09:27 Koha_IM     I am learning it as I go along. They have been unable to implement it for the past 1 year I have taken up the project voluntarily to seen if I can
09:31 Joubu       The support company haven't been able to make the zebra's indexation working in 1 year and now the support's contract is ended?
09:31 Joubu       wonderful
09:31 Joubu       Koha_IM: Are you sure you don't get errors on running the rebuild_zebra script?
09:33 Koha_IM     Actually the company installed the software and did not provide any support after installing.
09:34 Koha_IM     No the script runs fine
09:36 Joubu       Either you are updating the wrong index, or the indexation went wrong, I don't see another reason at your problem :)
09:37 Koha_IM     can you elaborate that please :/
09:38 Joubu       Koha_IM: I have forgotten an important check :) Go on the about page and check if there is not error
09:41 Koha_IM     no error on the about page
09:42 Koha_IM     checked all the tabs in about as well cant find any error except for 2 perl modules that need updating
09:46 Joubu       Koha_IM: did you read http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra?
09:46 Joubu       erk, remove the '?' at the end
09:47 Viktor      Hi #koha !
09:48 Viktor      Asking zebra for what 001 + 003 values belong to a certain biblionumber - doable or is there a better way?
09:50 Koha_IM     Joubu: came across it but I dont understand half of it to be frank
09:50 Viktor      (We need to query the ILS-DI getAvailability but only have 001 as incoming value and parsing the whole database for the MARCXML-blobs would be painful)
09:51 Viktor      (In the long run we'd love to see the possibility to index user specified fields from the MARC-record in the database to make things like this possible. But for now we look for a bit of a hack)
09:56 gaetan_B    Viktor: that's actually a debate i had with other librarians
09:56 gaetan_B    my understanding of the marc21 standard is that 001 should hold the biblionumber (which is what we do in unimarc)
09:56 gaetan_B    it's then easier with ilsdi and all
09:57 gaetan_B    but not everyone agrees on that
09:57 gaetan_B    (i'm not sure i am really answering your question here...)
09:57 Viktor      gaetan_B: Interesting! Does that mean that imported records get's a new 001? Is the old one then discarded or just moved somewhere?
09:57 gaetan_B    An imported record gets a new 001, and the old one gets discarded.
09:57 Joubu       Koha_IM: Does yaz-client sound familiar to you?
09:58 gaetan_B    (that's the way it works by default in unimarc)
09:58 Viktor      Thanks. But also ouch. That makes things a bit more difficult.
09:58 Koha_IM     Joubu: Nope Sorry :S
09:59 Viktor      gaetan_B Then we'll have to see if we can get the external service to send us ISBN instead.
09:59 gaetan_B    for some marc21 clients which required biblionumber in 001 (usually for integration with other tools such as VUFind) we changed the set up so that the biblionumber does go in 001 (you have to change the koha mappings, the zebra indexes, and the xslt for it to work)
09:59 Joubu       Koha_IM: Could you paste the result of the rebuild_zebra cmd?
09:59 Joubu       paste?
09:59 wahanui     paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org
09:59 gaetan_B    depending on the external service, you could have an xslt (z3950) or a modification template (for batch import) to move the old 001 elsewhere i guess
09:59 Viktor      gaetan_B++ Highly useful information - thanks! To bad we didn't think of that before starting to import :)
10:03 Joubu       Koha_IM: what's the result of `grep zebra_bib_index_mode $KOHA_CONF` ?
10:03 Koha_IM     Joubu: if you mean when I rebuild it as root ".../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -run-as-root -b -a -z" well there is nothing it says "root@koha:"
10:06 Joubu       no, don't run it as root :-/
10:06 Joubu       I meant when you run it, as usual
10:07 Joubu       using the first cmd you give us, with -x
10:12 Koha_IM     Joubu: "<zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode>" when i run grep zebra_bib_index_mode $KOHA_CONF
10:21 Joubu       Koha_IM: did you paste the result of the rebuild_zebra command?
10:33 Koha_IM     Joubu: I have someone on the server end (someone who knows linux)...please give me a moment
10:41 magnuse     gaetan_B, Viktor: for marc21 and normarc, 001 and 003 is kept intact by default, i think. that is very important for people like cait and her union catalogue
10:41 magnuse     i have created bug 9921 to have an alternative way
10:41 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo.lopez, In Discussion , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber
10:44 magnuse     lunchtime!
10:44 wahanui     lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting
10:48 Koha_IM     Joubu: Can't locate Koha.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.                  2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.1                  4 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /etc/perl/C4/Context.pm li                  ne 106.
10:48 Koha_IM     > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /etc/perl/C4/Context.pm line 106.
10:48 Koha_IM     > Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zeb                  ra.pl line 6.
10:48 Koha_IM     > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild                  _zebra.pl line 6.
10:48 Koha_IM     when i dont run it as root
10:50 Joubu       Koha_IM: Sorry, I won't have a lot of time to help you. You get this error because your KOHA_CONF variable is not defined. It should be set to your koha-conf.xml file
10:50 Joubu       export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/your/koha-conf.xml
10:50 Joubu       then try again
10:52 Joubu       you should also check your zebra versions (search on the wiki which one is recommended)
10:55 Koha_IM     Joubu: I did and the error is the same but when i run as root it compiles successfully
10:56 Koha_IM     also I have previously loaded the following environment variables in koha.sh
10:56 Koha_IM     export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib
10:56 Koha_IM     export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/rmi/koha-conf.xml
11:01 Joubu       And? Does it work know?
11:02 Joubu       Koha_IM: I am not following you, 2 hours ago you pasted 'rebuild_zebra.pl with "-b -r -v -x"', 1 hour ago it was " -run-as-root -b -a -z"
11:03 Koha_IM     Okay let me explain.
11:03 Joubu       please use -b -r -v -x using the correct koha user, then check the permissions on the zebra index files
11:06 Koha_IM     I imported my books using marc file but they were not being imported into the catalog from the reservoir for which I set a cron job and also rebuild the "rebuild_zebra.pl" after that manually
11:06 Koha_IM     this time i rebuild it as -run-as-root-
11:08 Koha_IM     when i deleted those records i was unable to delete them completely (as explained in the posts above) so I searched and found that compiling rebuild_zebra.pl with "-b -r -v -x" will clean my records but that failed after I tried it
11:09 Joubu       If that fail with "Can't locate", try `export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib` before
11:15 Koha_IM     tried now it says "coudn't open .../koha-conf.xml"
11:42 cait        magnuse: thx :)
11:50 Joubu       Koha_IM: Check the permissions on the koha-conf.xml file
12:00 drojf       hi #koha
12:03 magnuse     cait: ?
12:03 magnuse     moin drojf
12:03 drojf       hei magnuse
12:04 cait        hi drojf
12:04 drojf       hi cait
12:11 mtj         hey #koha
12:12 mtj         aahh meh.. KohaIM has left - i was going to suggest to use the packages commands..
12:14 mtj         # koha_rebuild_zebra -f mykoha
12:14 mtj         etc..
12:16 mtj         oh well.. hopefully they will be back again
12:18 cait        magnuse: 001 etc.
12:24 tcohen      morning!
12:26 cait        morning tcohen
12:26 tcohen      hi cait
12:26 mveron      Hi again everybody
12:26 tcohen      hey mveron
12:27 tcohen      how are those patches doing?
12:28 mveron      tcohen: At the moment I'm working on Bug 14969
12:28 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files
12:28 tcohen      awesome, let me know anything you need
12:32 xarragon    Hmm, do we have deps on Data::SearchEngine::Zebra?
12:32 xarragon    (for tests)
12:33 tcohen      not on master
12:35 magnuse     cait: ah
12:36 tcohen      hi Joubu
12:37 Joubu       tcohen: o/
12:37 xarragon    tcohen: Ok, thanks. I think something is wrong with my @INC anyway here..
12:38 tcohen      xarragon: you can always try git grep "Data::Search" on the repo
12:41 xarragon    tcohen: Yeah but it is only one of several problems I get when running tests. Seems my cpanm-installed stuff (in a sep. directory) is not being picked up any longer, as well as internal Koha stuff.
12:42 xarragon    tcohen: Normally the include path never gives me trouble, so I dismissed it up until now.
12:42 xarragon    "it is not what you don't know that gets you, it is what you know for sure but turns out that you are wrogn about that does."
12:43 tcohen      xarragon: why are you messing with deps?
12:44 tcohen      that's what 'apt-get install koha-perldeps' is for
12:45 xarragon    Well it is a dev install and I use debian with manual cpanm overlay in a separate install
12:45 xarragon    But it turns out the trailing 'lib/perl5' had gotten trimmed off the PERL5LIB path.
12:46 Joubu       mveron-away: erk
12:46 Joubu       away
12:47 Joubu       Hey :)
12:47 mveron      Joubu?
12:47 wahanui     Joubu is probably not sure how to fix that correctly
12:47 tcohen      not anymore it seems
12:47 Joubu       yes, I am never sure
12:47 Joubu       mveron: end of my comment 15 bug 14969: we need these tests to continue
12:47 mveron      Hi Joubu
12:47 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files
12:48 Joubu       I have found what I was thinking for,
12:48 Joubu       bug 13813 comment 82
12:48 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13813 enhancement, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Remove deprecated module C4::Dates from system - first steps
12:48 mveron      Joubu: I did not yet have time to answer on your comments, sorry.
12:48 Joubu       Ok, no worries, take your time ;)
12:50 mveron      Joubu: What are you expecting me to do?  Go back several months and do the whole C4::Dates stuff again?
12:50 Joubu       no, to continue with a more careful approaches
12:51 xarragon    tcohen: all fine now, was stuff left from master in the tree, had to do a clean -f -d to nuke it
12:52 mveron      Joubu: All of the C4::Patches are signed-off . Should I re-open them?
12:52 xarragon    tcohen: plus the include path was not set right with the shellscript I use to set up the koha dev env
12:52 tcohen      xarragon: have you tried this? https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/tree/ansible
12:53 tcohen      there's no way back from it
12:53 Joubu       mveron: I am just not confident with last patches, which make some difficult changes. I would like to see a script to compare the different changes, with the 4 different inputs
12:54 Joubu       and confirm that the changes are correct in any cases
12:54 Joubu       unit tests
12:54 wahanui     unit tests are required for all new routines in C4:: and Koha::.
12:54 mveron      Joubu: I'm running out of time.
12:54 Joubu       mveron: as I said, take your time
12:55 xarragon    tcohen: I plan to try it at least, it is a death trap to just test on your own dev box. As demonstrated above it tends to slowly become a bit.. depraved without you noticing
12:56 xarragon    Btw, running the db_dependant tests.. are they detrimental to my database (on a dev box)?
12:56 xarragon    Should I "Nuke and Flush" as I regularily do anyway?
12:56 Joubu       xarragon: it shouldn't but... who really knows? :)
12:57 tcohen      xarragon: if it does, you should fill a bug :-D
12:57 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14575: Fix typo in opac-basket.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0460ecc0abbe5f69554ab3885775e55b6a25fe0> / Bug 14575: Fix typo OPACurlOpenInNewWindow vs OPACURLOpenInNewWindow <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=004fa5ac4448fc1dedf9a74774b2ee0b1ec67f77> / Bug 14575: OPACURLOpenInNewWindow should apply to item-level urls too <http://git.koha-community.org/g
12:57 tcohen      we are experiencing some side-effects on tests (which we haven't tracked down yet)
12:58 tcohen      xarragon: trying the kohadevbox will take 5 minutes from your life. Compare it to debugging dependency nightmares
12:58 xarragon    Ok, I just saw the warnings on the wiki. I normally just run subset of tests on the modules I am corrupting, but I need to take the test aspect a bit more serious.
12:59 xarragon    tcohen: Yeah, and I might reinstall this machine anyway soon. And setting up this manually again is kinda painful if I don't work on it daily.
12:59 xarragon    Linux on a laptop is a daily exercise in small frustrations anyway
13:00 xarragon    Favorite one being that when you unplug the external monitor it will not switch back to internal display automatically and when you press the shortcut to open the screen switching dialog it opens it.. on the disconnected display.
13:02 tcohen      xarragon: i vagrant destroy jessie when I leave the office everyday, and vagrant up jessie when I get back while preparing my morning coffee. It is a joy
13:03 xarragon    tcohen: Sounds very suspicious though. I some countries clearing your browsing history is considered "obstruction of justice". So what you are doing must involve something really, really evil.
13:03 xarragon    Oh, I forgot.. Open Source is communism.
13:05 tcohen      well, it has proven to fit in capitalism as well
13:05 tcohen      xarragon: see bug 15102 for instance
13:05 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15102 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Passed QA , Fix capitalization for some strings on XSLT detail pages
13:06 xarragon    It does, it is just so fun seeing the most outspoken "capitalists" frown upon competition.'
13:06 xarragon    Anyway, I won't drag us into a political debate here.
13:07 tcohen      it seems matts heard about politics discussions so he shows up
13:07 matts       ^^
13:07 tcohen      hi matts!
13:09 xarragon    Hmm, I might have to reconfigure the devbox so that it does not clash with my primary dev install.
13:10 xarragon    tcohen: Does it download a lot every time you spin it up, or does it cache all the heavy stuff?
13:10 xarragon    I am on 3G only at home, luckily unmetered but still not a fat pipe by far.
13:10 tcohen      if you follow the instructions it will cache the OS image, and download koha-common+friends
13:11 tcohen      it uses NFS to mount your local kohaclone
13:11 tcohen      (need to set an env variable)
13:16 tcohen      xarragon: you don't need to destroy it as I do, right?
13:20 mveron      Does onybody make use of misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_date.pl? See bug 14998
13:20 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14998 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, In Discussion , Remove C4::Dates from installer and maintenance folders
13:39 magnuse     i have a 3.20.4 installation where going to <intranet>/cgi-bin/koha/about.pl gives "Software error: DBIC result type  isn't of the type Borrower at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 87" - anyone else seen that?
13:39 magnuse     it's one of those errors that are just a blank page with the error text on it, not a nicely formatted part of the "system info" tab or anything like that
13:56 tcohen      cait: bug 7143
13:56 wahanui     somebody said bug 7143 was ready for an easy signoff
13:56 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
13:57 tcohen      could you please take a look?
13:58 cait        not right now sorry
13:58 cait        super busy
13:58 wahanui     super busy is the new normal
13:58 drojf       lol
13:59 mario       morning
14:00 tcohen      cait: i will use my super powers
14:01 magnuse     use all the powers!
14:02 tcohen      what could go wrong?
14:02 tcohen      kaboom
14:02 tcohen      hahah
14:04 magnuse     oh noes, the rm is loosing it!
14:07 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Updates for the 3.22 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8b22fe417573af351ca568e99dc1da36579200b>
14:08 magnuse     tcohen++
14:08 magnuse     ooh 291 developers! who will be #300?
14:09 tcohen      is "A. Sassmannshausen" here?
14:23 cait        tcohen: atheia
14:58 xarragon    Will extended attributes only be attached to a borrower created after the attribute, or is there a way to push it to old accounts as well?
14:59 xarragon    Oh, wait, patron was not member of the correct category of users
15:04 tcohen      cait:  git log v3.20.00..HEAD| grep Author: | sort | uniq
15:05 tcohen      i did that, and searched for each
15:05 tcohen      on history and about
15:19 cait        tcohen: for the new devs?
15:21 ashimema    A. Sassmannshausen is atheia
15:21 ashimema    i've pinged him for you tcohen
15:22 drojf       should be in the irc regulars page maybe :)
15:22 ashimema    he's a semi-regular
15:22 ashimema    I should poke him to leave his client on more often ;)
15:23 drojf       regular does not say anything about the frequency ;)
15:23 ashimema    haha
15:23 atheia      Hi #koha :-)
15:23 ashimema    we appear to have lost tcohen now
15:23 ashimema    think his super powers got the better of him
15:24 atheia      ah haha :-)
15:25 cait        :)
15:25 * cait      waves
15:25 cait        i think it was about the about page
15:25 atheia      \me waves back
15:25 atheia      damn. still not got the hang of irc commands…  ;-)
15:25 * ashimema  wonders if me was meant to be /me
15:25 ashimema    ;)
15:25 cait        because you are not here often enouhg
15:26 * atheia    thinks it was indeed.
15:26 atheia      cait: touché!
15:26 ashimema    ooh..
15:26 ashimema    atheia: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8b22fe417573af351ca568e99dc1da36579200b
15:26 ashimema    your at the top
15:27 ashimema    wlcome to the official contributors.. no escaping now
15:28 atheia      Wow! how did that happen?
15:28 ashimema    you must have done somthing wrong ;)
15:28 atheia      amazing!
15:28 * atheia    dance of joy
15:28 atheia      well… I got the /me right… just the conjugation wasn't quite there…
16:00 bdonnahue   Hey everyone. im a bit confused about koha and marc 21 records. can koha look up information for a record from amazon or the lib of congress?
16:01 cait        marc21 is a data format
16:01 cait        koha can use standard protocols like SRU and Z39.50 to look up information in other databases
16:01 cait        amazon does afaik not provide such
16:01 cait        but the library of congress does
16:01 xarragon    Do we have any tests for web services? Or is it purely manual?
16:02 reiveune    bye
16:02 cait        xarragon: hm can you give an example?
16:03 xarragon    cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14257
16:03 huginn      04Bug 14257: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add show_extended_attributes to ILS-DI call GetPatronInfo
16:04 cait        hmmm
16:05 cait        not sure if there are test sfor ils-di - i guess you already checked
16:06 xarragon    cait: Ah wait, I think I found one
16:06 xarragon    cait: ./db_dependent/ILSDI_Services.
16:06 bdonnahue   cait: thanks for explaining that
16:07 bdonnahue   so records for a given book for example can can have different sets of data
16:07 bdonnahue   for example it could be missing some data
16:10 cait        koha can overlay them with a better record
16:11 cait        or you could import another and then merge the 2 together, using fields from each to create a new better record - but usually people overlay i think
16:18 bdonnahue   ah ok thanks. and is the location info is that part ofr the marc record?
16:20 * mveron    is back in about 5 hours
16:21 bdonnahue   i will likely need to merge
16:35 pianohacker shalom
16:54 cait        bdonnahue: the items are not part of the marc record
16:54 bdonnahue   cait: ah ok thanks. so koha stores that information in some other way?
16:55 cait        it's a separate table - the items are not affected if you overlay the bibliographic record
16:55 bdonnahue   ah ok that makes sense. thanks for taking the time to explain that
16:57 tcohen      atheia: do u prefer Atheia or A.?
17:01 atheia      tcohen: Atheia is good, thanks for asking!
17:05 cait        atheia: don't you prefer Alex?
17:05 cait        i think tcohen was aksing for the list of contributors .)
17:06 tcohen      if you look at the about page in Koha, you will notice "A. ..."
17:06 tcohen      i thought it was worth fixing
17:08 atheia      :-) tcohen, cait, I see, yeah, in which case A. Sassmannshausen or Alex Sassmannshausen is better.
17:10 tcohen      atheia: you're not answering the question :-D
17:11 atheia      tcohen: really?
17:11 wahanui     really is more trouble than she's worth.
17:11 atheia      Wait… is it about what the A. stands for?
17:11 atheia      In which case — definitely not Atheia :-)
17:11 tcohen      about says A., the question was if you prefered Alex instead
17:12 atheia      Yes — OK, definitely Alex.
17:12 atheia      Did I pass? Did I answer the question? ;-)
17:13 tcohen      atheia: yeah, you seem to pass the Turing test now :-P
17:14 atheia      Phew — that was close :-)
17:14 atheia      Speak later!
17:16 Joubu       atheia: you should choose another first name, what about Bob?
17:31 tcohen      Joubu: :-P
18:01 Joubu       @later tell mveron I will provide patches tomorrow for the other C4::Dates stuffs
18:01 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
18:11 Joubu       bye #koha
18:32 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14735: Save cache_expiry on modifying a report <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27a15d5a429620dbad0a16292d714e3389ea057e> / Bug 7895: Test for PSGI-related env to report in about.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da5629192a369e6c8a48ac11e40285ee06fdcb14> / Bug 15011: koha-indexer should define the --pidfiles on starting the daemon <http://git.koha-communi
19:20 gaetan_B    bye
19:29 cait        khall_away: around?
19:33 magnuse     probably not, if that nick is to be trusted ;-)
19:34 cait        pff
19:34 cait        don't ever trust an away nick :)
19:37 Frey50      Hello everyone
19:38 Frey50      I got a problem
19:38 Frey50      im trying to migrate some records to a new server
19:38 Frey50      but somehow field 100 changes to Frey50
19:39 Frey50      and im loosing the author information
19:43 cait        huh
19:43 cait        are you using marc21 or unimarc?
19:45 Frey50      marc21
19:45 Frey50      on both servers
19:46 cait        hm
19:46 cait        you don't have a marc modification template active on import... do you?
19:46 Frey50      marcflavour Interpret and store MARC records in the Marc21 format.
19:47 Frey50      no sir
19:47 cait        which version of koha?
19:47 wahanui     which version of koha are you using?
19:48 cait        i found: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1830
19:48 huginn      04Bug 1830: normal, P3, ---, henridamien, CLOSED REMIND, "frey50" after conversion
19:51 cait        to me it sounds a ibt like a mixup with unimarc, because of system preferences UNIMARCAuthorityField  and UNIMARCField100Language
19:57 Frey50      3.20.05.000
19:57 Frey50      and 3.18.04.000
19:58 cait        Frey50: try to empty out thos 2 sysprefs
19:58 cait        hm also make sure you chose marc21 on import... and.. hm
19:59 Frey50      just empty?
19:59 cait        for as tart yes
20:00 Frey50      give me a sec
20:01 Frey50      done
20:02 Frey50      what else?
20:03 cait        hm no more ideas right now :
20:04 Frey50      so
20:05 Frey50      should i try another import?
20:05 cait        yes please
20:06 Frey50      and it will duplicate records?
20:07 cait        hmyeah if you just import again it probably would
20:07 cait        can you undo your first import?
20:09 Frey50      how?
20:09 cait        fi you used the staged marc import tool
20:10 cait        and you go to your batch and click on it.. ther is an undo option
20:10 cait        don't confuse with the clean option
20:11 Frey50      what would happen if i click on clean?
20:12 cait        it deletes the information about the import batch - and then i can't be undone
20:44 Frey50      guys
20:44 Frey50      it worked
20:44 Frey50      but now i got another problem
20:45 Frey50      not showing results on opac
20:52 Frey50      nor staff client
20:56 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15097: Update MARC21 de-DE frameworks to Update 21 (September 2015) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2c302440b7d33e8dc3923b645286a70111dd305>
20:57 cait        Frey50: it's really weird
20:57 cait        it still points to a unimarc/marc21 problem for me
20:57 cait        can you try switching the marcflavour from mac21 to unimarc and back? (turn it on and off again...?)
20:58 Frey50      ok
21:00 Frey50      nope
21:00 Frey50      not working
21:01 cait        hmpf
21:02 cait        the idea is that unimarc title is 200 and marc21 is 245
21:02 cait        so not seeing something useful in results could be related to that, after the first problem you had
21:04 mveron      Joubu, thanks for taking care for Bug 14946. I tested, however the date filtesr for invoices do not work, other things from test plan work OK.
21:04 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14946 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files acqui/*.pl
21:08 Frey50      and how can i fix it?
21:18 dcook       eythian: It turns out that thing I was talking about was a bug in YAZ
21:19 dcook       'Yep. The "local r=r or r=o" does not take precedence over the outer one. That's a bug in YAZ. It's been fixed and is part of next release of YAZ - version 5.15.0.'
21:19 dcook       Of course, I'm only using YAZ 5.1.2... not sure what the default is in Debian but imagine it's low too..
21:31 Francesca   morning
21:42 eythian     hi
21:42 wahanui     privet, eythian
21:42 Francesca   sup
21:55 mveron      Bug 14946 works :-)
21:55 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14946 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files acqui/*.pl
21:55 mveron      ..and is signed-off.
21:56 mveron      Joubu ^
21:58 * cait      waves
22:02 * mveron    waves
22:23 * dcook     waves to the Europeans
22:23 dcook       Also eythian :p
22:24 eythian     give it a couple of weeks
22:26 dcook       Who wha?
22:26 wahanui     wha are you playing?
22:27 dcook       And Debian is so close to 2.0.60..
22:28 dcook       Doesn't look like there is any changes to the YAZ version in any version
22:49 cait        dcook++ # mailinglist
22:50 dcook       :)
22:51 dcook       I've been beating myself up this year over not contributing much in terms of signs offs or patches... but hopefully mailing list and Zebra contributions have helped a bit
22:52 eythian     crikey, I sure have a lot of cait-induced bug mail this morning :)
22:52 cait        my last chances...
22:53 cait        I was working with tcohen on some clean-up for the release notes
22:53 cait        hopefully polishing bug titles a bit and changing modules
22:53 eythian     ah yep
22:58 brick       добрый вечер! есть ли русскоговорящие? нужна помощь
22:59 cait        good evening
22:59 wahanui     evening is the time of day we all look forward too
22:59 cait        my russian is too rusty, i am sorry
22:59 brick       ok
23:00 cait        you need help?
23:00 brick       my english is bad =)
23:00 brick       im install koha on ubuntu 14/04 from deb
23:03 brick       and backup mysql from work instance with old koha? but on new server 3/20/05 zebra not work
23:03 eythian     first try running "sudo service koha-common restart"
23:04 brick       it indexing, but in opac not any search
23:04 brick       not help =)
23:04 eythian     also, "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -v --full libraryname"
23:04 eythian     (replace "libraryname" with your instance name.)
23:05 brick       its too
23:05 brick       Нет никаких результатов, чтобы отвечали Вашему поиску 'kw,wrdl: пушкин'
23:06 eythian     hmm
23:06 eythian     that usually either means that nothing is indexed, or zebra is not running.
23:06 eythian     is there a zebrasrv process on the server?
23:06 brick       koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f db exporting biblio Records exported: 3429 Records exported: 0
23:07 brick       ps aux db-koha  32724  0.0  0.4 113316  4732 ?        S    23:04   0:00 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/db/koha-...
23:08 eythian     hrm
23:08 dcook       It's worth tailing that Zebra log if there is a log...
23:08 eythian     that is all as I'd expect
23:08 eythian     yeah
23:09 eythian     though, it's pretty quiet generally. but maybe something is there.
23:09 brick       mayby how on old version? edit /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/word-phrase-utf.chr
23:09 brick       #lowercase {0-9}{a-z}абвгґдеэєжзіїийклмнопрстуфхцчшщьыъюяёў #uppercase {0-9}{A-Z}АБВГҐДЕЭЄЖЗІЇИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЬЫЪЮЯЁЎ
23:09 eythian     I don't know much about that side of things. dcook is the expert there :)
23:11 brick       in new version it don't work =(
23:14 brick       or disable DOM?
23:16 eythian     I don't know
23:16 eythian     I'm not much of a zebra expert, especially non-english-language installs.
23:16 eythian     It might be good to ask on the Koha mailing list.
23:17 eythian     hallo papa
23:17 brick       im read it, but nothing for 3.18+
23:17 papa        hi there!
23:18 * dcook     gets back from the phone
23:18 eythian     brick: you probably should ask, there are people there who know how zebra works better than I do.
23:27 brick       eythian, thank you
23:27 eythian     np, hope you get it sorted out
23:46 brick       mmm on old server unimark, on new instance is mark21 =)
23:49 eythian     that will have weird results
23:49 eythian     probably very weird
23:53 dcook       Such weird results
23:56 dcook       brick: That would almost undoubtedly be a major source of your problems