Time Nick Message 23:33 * Francesca waves 23:09 wizzyrea yes I feel ya now 23:09 wizzyrea oh right 23:08 eythian if the code can see what's happened and deal with it properly, that's better. 23:08 wizzyrea well that's basically what --keep-mysql does 23:08 eythian we don't need an option 23:08 eythian yeah, that's what I'm saying. 23:08 wizzyrea idk how to word an option for "just don't bother with the database stuff" 23:07 eythian I kinda think just noticing that it didn't work is probably a better option. Requiring an option to distinguish local vs. remote is a bit odd. 23:06 wizzyrea maybe change the error to say "cannot remove database and user - check permissions or run with --keep-mysql to remove an instance with a remote database" 23:05 wizzyrea it goes on ok with --keep-mysql though, and seems to complete just fine 23:05 eythian yeah, aborting there is not great 23:04 wizzyrea which, too right. 23:04 wizzyrea quits* 23:04 wizzyrea I think it says "cannot remove database and user" and quites 23:03 wizzyrea bc I don't remember 23:03 wizzyrea tbh, I'd have to do more testing 23:03 wizzyrea it fails in a not super explicit way, but no I don't think it's half broken 23:03 eythian because really, if we can catch that and output a warning but keep going, that'd be ideal. 23:03 eythian wizzyrea: sure, sounds good. However, what happens if you have a remote database and don't add that option? Does it fail and leave things in a half-broken state? 23:02 huginn 04Bug 15088: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Note in koha-remove help that --keep-mysql is how you remove instances with remote databases 23:02 wizzyrea eythian: I am almost certain you would have a really excellent opinion about this: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15088 22:59 dcook Maybe at home.. 22:59 dcook So tempted to try out docker and the gitlab container... 22:50 dcook Ahh, that does sound familiar 22:50 eythian It took over from gitorius 22:50 dcook Hmm, maybe I should try out GitLab one of these days... 22:49 eythian ah 22:48 dcook Looks like GitLab 4.2 was the last one to use Gitolite 22:48 eythian gitlab runs gitlab, I'm pretty sure 22:48 dcook Hmm, I thought gitlab ran over gitolite... are they separate now? 22:48 eythian https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/index.php/s/JDsBbkl3E3fvAaG <-- wizzyrea, the slides from last years, if you're interested 22:46 wizzyrea i like gitlab a lot 22:45 eythian rather than my own bzr server 22:45 eythian I should be putting the source of these into gitlab 22:45 wizzyrea lol. 22:45 eythian it'd be pretty silly of me to say you can't :) 22:44 eythian of course 22:44 wizzyrea (with your permission) 22:44 wizzyrea maybe I will fork your talk ;) 22:43 eythian dcook: yeah, that's a good idea 22:43 wizzyrea :D 22:43 eythian wizzyrea: well, I would do something at LIANZA, but I'm sure their CfP has already closed :) 22:43 dcook I suppose I have time for thoughts to brew 22:43 dcook Or expand upon it for a bigger talk.. 22:43 eythian sounds good 22:43 wizzyrea :P 22:43 dcook I might steal that idea for next time then ;) 22:43 wizzyrea no, at a library conference that isn't already about open source. 22:43 eythian I didn't in the end 22:43 dcook eythian: Did you do a lightning talk about Github? 22:43 eythian It's a variant of one I did at kohacon in India 22:42 dcook ^ 22:42 wizzyrea I think I'd like to see that talk at a library conference 22:42 eythian yeah 22:42 dcook A few talks from the heads of products but not contributors.. 22:41 dcook Would've been interesting to hear another talk about upstreaming this year. 22:41 dcook I know I started the talk from last year but I don't know if I finished it... bad dcook 22:40 eythian :D 22:40 wizzyrea I watched your one from OSDC last year (dk why it took a frikkin year to watch it but there it is) and I think it's one of my favourite talks ever. 22:40 eythian so I tend to open with that clarification 22:39 eythian so, at these conferences when I mention libraries, about 50% of people ask me if it's libraries on the computer, or libraries with books 22:39 eythian yeah 22:38 * cait is looking at the slides 22:38 cait rijksmuseum library? :) 22:36 eythian cait: you didn't, because you're slack. 22:36 dcook hehe 22:36 eythian cait: dcook knows this because he went to my talk 22:36 dcook Without one, I think that way madness lies 22:36 wahanui a query parser is on, opacsuppression is on 22:36 dcook and a query parser 22:36 cait i think we need a mapping 22:36 dcook eythian: That sucks :/ 22:35 dcook cait: Well, that's annoying :p 22:35 dcook Ahh, I think I getcha 22:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7497 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , "kw,wrdl" and variants should be replaced by something more explicit in search history 22:34 cait bug 7497 - changing the index names won't work 22:34 dcook cait: Hmm? 22:34 wahanui i heard translations was http://translate.koha-community.org/ 22:34 cait dcook: translations 22:34 eythian and then customs took forever in wellington for some reason 22:34 eythian yeah, a bit late, got delayed flying out of syd just to the storm 22:31 dcook I was wondering if you would be in this morning 22:31 dcook heya eythian 22:31 eythian hi dcook 22:31 * dcook waves to #koha 22:31 eythian I don't know that it's owncloud's fault 22:29 cait eythian: i have the same problem in my owncloud 22:24 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 22:24 rangi @later tell joubu should be back now 22:17 eythian (the firefox viewer doesn't seem to do a good job rendering some bits, best use a real PDF viewer.) 22:13 eythian https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/index.php/s/fDoBkJApKDT5ark <-- cait (and anyone else), these are my slides 22:12 rangi :) 22:08 eythian videos should be online in a week or so 22:07 eythian also, you don't need me to invite you to a conference 22:07 eythian but I can put them somewhere 22:07 eythian not as such 22:06 cait are your slides online yet? 22:05 cait you didn't send me an invitation 22:04 eythian ftr, QueryParser should be kept and fixed, and if any of you had bothered to come to my talk, you'd know that :) 22:04 eythian I do notice my name has been taken in vain a few times 22:03 cait :) 22:02 eythian no messages from huginn after a week? that's surprising 22:02 eythian hi 20:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15094: Update link to Windows Offline Circ <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=17bcc6a242fce21e759653b2b6c6778cdda336e8> / Bug 14333: followup 2 - split line to ease translation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=165e759a1fde30200ee54b3c533f6d0c8c6a6c7f> / Bug 14333: followup - Fix labels <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d37b15faf 20:20 * cait waves 20:13 * wizzyrea figured out that your linode was having trouble when I got icinga checks for koha-community being down when it wasn't :) 18:34 cait hope he is not allergic 17:54 gmcharlt Linode is currently having some network connectivity issues in it's Atlanta data center, so if huginn disappears again, just imagine it eating too many boiled peanuts 17:43 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #220: "jcamins: Facebook may not like unspecified relationships, but rare books catalogers do!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:41 PM, October 19, 2012) 17:43 gmcharlt @quote random 17:14 * druthb goes to install a wheezy. 17:14 druthb Fricken' frackin' packages not available on jessie yet. *grump* 17:08 cait *meows* 17:01 * druthb curses loudly and at length, and with much virtuosity. 16:55 * druthb giggles. 16:55 gmcharlt druthb: your nick is six characters long, which represents the transition into tab-using territory for me :-P 16:54 * druthb waves at gmcharlt, to see if he'll mistype her name, too. :P 16:54 gmcharlt er, hi cait 16:53 gmcharlt hi cat 16:53 * cait waves at gmcharlt 16:52 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 16:52 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #252: "<@jcamins> Really the issues is that Anglo-American libraries have settled on a profoundly stupid format that utterly fails to express anything that patrons care about, while going on at great length about things patrons don't care about." (added by chris at 10:42 PM, May 26, 2013) 16:52 gmcharlt @quote random 16:23 mveron Good sunday evening (or daytime) #koha 13:56 cait *sigh* back to the bugs... 13:54 cait i hope to come back to argentina one day, it was really nice 13:51 cait so much water! was glad you were there :) 13:50 bgkriegel that was huge! 13:49 cait bgkriegel: I remember the rain when you picked me up from the airport :) 13:49 tcohen cait: thanks 13:48 cait i will add them 13:48 cait but i think some help on some of those would be very appreaciated 13:48 cait tcohen: yep, i asked him - he said bugzilla is complete 13:48 * tcohen wants him to sleep too 13:48 bgkriegel cait: fine, it's a rainy day, strange spring here 13:47 tcohen so it is not only mveron's effort 13:47 tcohen we could work on those too 13:47 tcohen are all the bugs for removing C4::Dates filled? 13:46 cait how are you doing bgkriegel? 13:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15093 critical, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , item type groups not saving 13:46 cait next is bug 15093 13:45 bgkriegel thx :) 13:44 cait and the bug passed qa too :) 13:44 cait thank you! 13:44 bgkriegel they are ready now :) 13:41 cait i finished translation this morning 13:41 cait jut waiting for the files 13:41 cait yep 13:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15097 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Update MARC21 de-DE frameworks to Update 21 (September 2015) 13:41 bgkriegel cait: will you upload to Bug 15097? 13:40 cait working on it right now 13:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15092 blocker, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , item type descriptions not showing if no logo 13:40 cait and also bgkriegel++ for bug 15092 13:40 tcohen bgkriegel++ 13:40 bgkriegel :) 13:40 tcohen i'll just try to push people to fix the important ones first 13:40 cait bgkriegel++ # updated marc frameworks :) 13:40 cait hi bgkriegel!! 13:40 tcohen and everyone will work on what they consider important 13:40 bgkriegel Hello cait tcohen 13:40 cait time flies 13:40 tcohen cait: sure" 13:39 cait sme might be 'nice to have' in the end 13:39 cait ok 13:38 tcohen and then assgn priorities 13:38 tcohen we'll all do the same 13:38 tcohen just put all u consider important 13:36 tcohen functionality broken 13:36 tcohen data inconsistency 13:28 cait how do you define blocker? 13:28 cait found 13:27 cait looking 13:27 tcohen ? 13:27 tcohen did u get it 13:26 tcohen 3.22 - Blockers 13:26 tcohen done 13:24 cait i add? :) 13:23 cait you start one 13:23 tcohen i can set it 13:23 tcohen cait: better have a Trello board for it 13:22 tcohen thanks 13:22 tcohen that'd be awesome 13:22 cait or at least start to make one and send you a link? 13:22 tcohen i filled a couple 13:21 cait s 13:21 cait i can try and build a list today - bugs already filed, plack and also relevant to the new feature 13:21 tcohen there are blockers for Plack only 13:21 tcohen no, that's the idea, to build that list 13:21 cait hm i see 13:21 tcohen it is not only fixing bugs, but finding them too 13:21 cait i wanted to ask you if there is a current list on blockers? 13:21 tcohen first we need to gather the bugs to work onç 13:20 cait ah better not make it dependenton me 13:20 tcohen whenever you are available of course 13:20 cait what day/time were you thinking of? 13:19 tcohen he said he's too busy, but that we should call him once we are on the hg session 13:19 tcohen yes 13:19 tcohen i think jonathan will be afk some days 13:19 cait ah - so he replied? 13:19 tcohen kyle will be available, me too, I expect dobrica to join us on a plack-fixing sprint 13:19 cait more difficult from work than from home 13:18 cait not on those days... after it depends on the time 13:18 tcohen could you manage to join us in a hangouts session? 13:18 cait i am gone monday -tuesday - back on wednesday 13:18 tcohen cait, I'm planning a bug squashing week starting tomorrow 13:11 wahanui bidet, tcohen 13:11 tcohen hi 13:04 cait i am about to dig into bugs 13:03 cait hi tcohen :) 10:20 * cait waves