Time Nick Message 23:15 pianohacker_DND gigantic rancor update of doom! 22:20 wnickc bye all 22:16 wnickc tcohen :-) 22:15 tcohen wnickc: you can understand as much as you like, as long as it is useful to you 21:59 wnickc I don't fully understand it, but I do love it, feels snappy 21:58 tcohen heh 21:58 tcohen integrating plack with the packages got a bit personal heh, so everything that i needed, I tried to do it 21:57 tcohen wnickc: you are welcome 21:57 wnickc thanks for putting that together 21:56 wnickc I have my anisble plack setup, super easy btw, will test when can 21:56 wnickc hi tcohen 21:52 tcohen hi wnickc 21:51 wnickc woohoo koha! 21:21 tcohen ah 21:21 wahanui :) 21:21 tcohen wahanui: botsnack 21:21 wahanui tcohen: excuse me? 21:21 tcohen wahanui: snackbot 21:21 wahanui que tal, tcohen 21:21 tcohen hi there 16:10 kivilahtio have a great weekend! 16:09 kivilahtio Sorry it was "Kohrer". I have stil lsome things to learn ;) 16:07 kivilahtio I am too used to write Koha. Actually we were inspecting the Turkish Koha service provider, and had to google translate from Turkis to Finnish. KOHA was translated as KOH :) It was great! 16:06 kivilahtio yesterday we coined a new term ""Kohler"" 16:06 kivilahtio sorry 16:06 kivilahtio yesterday we coined a new term "Kohaler" 15:11 TGoat good morning :) 15:05 reiveune bye 14:31 kivilahtio misilot: they stil lcomplain :) 14:31 Malik i have mentioned that kindly check your accounts if any fine is there kindly contact library 14:30 kivilahtio misilot: same here 14:29 Malik yes i have recieved to much compliant one of my patron recievd 100 email for only item overdue 14:28 misilot kivilahtio: we tell our students that notices are convenience (since we cannot guarantee they actually get sent once they leave Koha and onto our mailhost). and they should check their accounts for any fine information :) 14:27 Malik i have sent them email for this error and about fine i will forgive that 14:27 kivilahtio Malik: recovering rom such error is VERY HARD in Koha 14:26 kivilahtio Malik: and then they complain and don't want to pay their fines 14:26 kivilahtio Malik: atleast our patrons are very angry if they don't get their advance notifications 14:26 kivilahtio Malik: but you need to make sure your patrons actually get the notifications which are due? 14:26 Malik you can 14:25 kivilahtio Malik: what little I could offer 14:25 Malik thnx for help 14:25 kivilahtio awesome 14:20 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, ashimema 14:20 ashimema awesome 14:18 Malik yes fix it by sudo postsuper -d ALL 1518 emails were in queue and it is deleted know 14:13 kivilahtio Malik: I am sorry that is really beyond my area of expertise 14:13 Malik i have configured postfix 14:13 kivilahtio misilot: thanks! 14:13 misilot kivilahtio and ashimema here is a PR to VuFind for the Koha Driver we are using: https://github.com/vufind-org/vufind/pull/486 14:13 kivilahtio Malik: that depends on your outbound email server. I have no ide awhat to do with your outbound email sever 14:12 Malik yes i have configured process_message_queue.pl to run after two minutes but yesterday it was deleted from crontab after these emails 14:12 misilot not a company to try and make angry :) 14:12 misilot kivilahtio: well licensing terms for oracle software 14:12 kivilahtio misilot: I haven't heard the word "not allowed" in my 5 years of working with OS software 14:10 Malik i ave recieved 126 email in reply that you daily quota limit execeed by email server i just confirmed that these email will not sent tomorrow how to stop these 14:05 misilot kivilahtio: well at least you can write queries for it. Would have loved to write queries against the oracle database, but not allowed since we had an embedded version 14:04 kivilahtio misilot: something like "prorpietary ILS vendor"-bad 14:04 kivilahtio misilot: completely relying on MySQL sounds incredibly bad :) 14:04 misilot kivilahtio: they already have a Koha driver that isn't feature complete, that relies I believe completely on MySQL. I would like to have it use the new REST API once it is available. 14:04 kivilahtio misilot: that certainly is not available yet 14:03 kivilahtio misilot: the RESTAPI runs on a FastCGI-server, giving much more higher throughput than the current Koha CGI architecture. 14:02 kivilahtio misilot: if the driver is not complete, and it isn't in the official VuFind repo? 14:02 kivilahtio misilot: what do you think of using the new REST API in Koha to integrate with VuFind? 14:02 misilot once I make it 14:02 misilot I will give a PR so you can take a look 14:02 kivilahtio misilot: I understand 14:02 misilot ILS-DI isn't feature complete for everything 14:01 misilot kivilahtio: not yet, making a PR. kivilahtio it uses ILS-DI for something things and mysql for others 14:01 kivilahtio and that Koha Driver uses ILS-DI? 14:01 kivilahtio misilot: erm do you mean that the Koha Driver is in the VuFind master already? 14:00 misilot kivilahtio and ashimema i pushed some more of the changes (what I am using in production). making a PR now for upstream VuFind 14:00 kivilahtio Malik: is everything ok now? 13:59 kivilahtio tubaclarinet: no problem :) 13:59 tubaclarinet kivilahtio: thx 4 the tip 13:58 kivilahtio tubaclarinet: I always use TAB to autocomplete the name so i don't do so much typos 13:58 tubaclarinet sorry, that should have been "kivilahtio", not "kikilahtio" 13:58 kivilahtio Malik: erm, you have process_message_queue.pl configured in your crontab to run every minute? 13:57 kivilahtio tubaclarinet: I did. I learned to play really melancholically 13:57 Malik mean in future it will not be happend 13:57 tubaclarinet kikilahtio: hopefully you gleaned at least 1 good experience w/ piano 13:57 Malik ok 13:57 kivilahtio Malik: sending 15 days of messages doesn't take so much time 13:56 kivilahtio if the process has already completed 13:56 kivilahtio Malik: but that might not help 13:56 kivilahtio Malik: you can try running the "top"-command 13:56 Malik ok 13:56 kivilahtio Malik: if that is what you got with the ps aux -command then the messags have already been sent 13:56 Malik after command it is showing but when i implement its showing no process to kill 13:55 Malik root 22508 0.0 0.0 4384 820 pts/1 S+ 18:51 0:00 grep --color=au 13:55 kivilahtio tcohen: tennis is fun, but I suck at that, Squash is more easy 13:55 tcohen maybe tennis, but not today 13:55 tcohen i'd love to 13:54 kivilahtio tcohen: like parkour 13:54 kivilahtio tcohen: I thought you was gonna do something fun 13:54 kivilahtio tcohen: taik cear 13:54 tcohen koha training for librarians, that's it 13:54 tcohen bye #koha, training tiem 13:54 kivilahtio tubaclarinet: nice to hear! My mom forced me to play the piano 13:54 tubaclarinet LOL...My my wife plays clarinet (very well, i might add) and I get by on tuba 13:53 kivilahtio Malik: did you run the SQL? if you didnt dont do it now :) 13:53 kivilahtio Malik: so you killed the process? 13:53 Malik yes 13:53 Malik yse 13:53 kivilahtio Malik: so syou are sending real notifications , only 15 days late? 13:53 kivilahtio tubaclarinet: do you fancy blowing instruments? 13:52 Malik no its not my testing server i have shifted my server to virtual server and i forgot to install postfix and cofigure it thats why its happening 13:52 kivilahtio tubaclarinet: good day! 13:52 tubaclarinet good morning everyone :-) 13:51 kivilahtio Malik: Are you on a test server with real borrower data which accidentally is sending email that should have never been sent? 13:51 kivilahtio Malik: I don't understand your scenario 13:51 Malik ok thnx let me check this then i will reply 13:51 kivilahtio Malik: then UPDATE message_queue SET status = pending'; 13:50 kivilahtio Malik: this is how you stop the process_message_queue-cronjob from staining your reputation any more 13:50 kivilahtio kill <process_id> 13:49 kivilahtio Malik: ps aux | grep process_message_queue 13:49 kivilahtio Malik: wow, when we started using Koha we sent 1 000 000 email of the 4 000 000 queued emails to our patrons thanks to a small software bug :) 13:46 Malik i am facing aproblem i have configured new version of koha and i have restore my database in it i have forgot to set email server after 15 days i set email server koha is snding to much email to my patron how can i stop it can any one help me pease 13:44 Malik hello 13:41 * nengard does too! 13:40 misilot nengard: i like new shiny things :) 13:38 nengard of course you can!!! 13:38 kivilahtio misilot: we actually already have a pretty decent testing framework 13:38 misilot nengard: i can be optimistic, right? :) 13:38 nengard misilot um ... we still have 3.20 to do :) 13:38 kivilahtio misilot: looking forward to putting everything under PageObject + Cucumber testing 13:37 kivilahtio misilot: we are targeting q1 2015 for 3.22 ... we will see what we do with our 220+ in-house patches 13:36 misilot kivilahtio: i believe eventually? nengard do you know when we might go to 3.22? :) 13:35 kivilahtio misilot: are you planning to upgrade to 3.22 when it comes out? 13:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13939 normal, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , ILS-DI function GetServices doesn't work when the item/biblio is available for hold for specific patron 13:35 misilot bug 13939 13:35 misilot nope Koha 3.18.5. 3.18.6 has a bugfix for ILS-DI 13:35 kivilahtio anyway 13:35 kivilahtio but you just said you use 3.18 13:34 kivilahtio i thought Koha 13:34 misilot but should work with 2.4 13:34 kivilahtio oh :) 13:34 misilot vufind 2.3.1 13:34 kivilahtio hahahaahah 13:34 misilot kivilahtio: we are running 2.3.1 currently 13:34 kivilahtio ashimema: do ou have a link to the code? 13:33 kivilahtio Joubu: good weekend! 13:33 misilot will try working on today/next week :) give me a break from everythign else 13:33 misilot ashimema: I am trying to find time. 2 person team that manages the IT for the Library here, and manage everything from servers to helping students if they need help with technical issues + in house developments 13:31 ashimema that's fair 13:31 Joubu good w-e #koha! 13:31 misilot i also shortcut authentication to Koha since we use CAS for authentication on campus 13:31 ashimema submit it upstream pretty please :) 13:31 misilot ashimema: I added course reserve functionality to ours 13:30 ashimema did you extend it further misilot? 13:29 ashimema Alex Sassmannshausen.. that's my man :) 13:29 kivilahtio ashimema: receiving data... 13:29 wahanui in fact is probably the today situation 13:29 ashimema in fact.. 13:29 ashimema aha 13:29 ashimema we extended the vufind koha drivers too 13:29 misilot kivilahtio: https://github.com/misilot/vufind/blob/fit-koharest/module/VuFind/src/VuFind/ILS/Driver/KohaRest.php 13:28 kivilahtio misilot: where is the driver for Koha? 13:28 kivilahtio misilot: this is the complete VuFind? 13:27 kivilahtio misilot: we hav a lot of local developments and thus our version of ILS-DI is prolly quite borken :) 13:27 misilot that we had applied to our system 13:27 misilot kivilahtio: but our OPAC uses VuFind with Koha 3.18.5 currently. I think 3.18.6 has a patch that fixes an issue with ILS-DI 13:26 kivilahtio ok 13:25 misilot I think I made assumptions about being a single library though 13:25 misilot kivilahtio: the top two commits: https://github.com/misilot/vufind/commits/fit-koharest have most everything. i don't think I have added much more. 13:24 kivilahtio misilot: can you help me find the code? 13:23 kivilahtio misilot: i don't care. I know the guys at the national library would love to make it work with Koha 13:23 kivilahtio misilot: because we need to integrate Koha to our national search catalog and they use VuFind 13:23 misilot and it's not completely finished from what I can tell. 13:22 misilot not sure the driver for using ILS-DI was ever released 13:22 misilot kivilahtio: yes 13:22 kivilahtio misilot: VuFind works with ILS-DI? 13:22 kivilahtio misilot: VuFind works with ILS-DI= 13:21 misilot ashimema: i'm going to message you what we came from since we left on no so nice terms 13:21 misilot ashimema: i use ILS-DI as much as I can right now with VuFind 13:18 kivilahtio have a great weekend! 13:17 ashimema fair point 13:10 kivilahtio ashimema: i have, but that is a different thing than infinite loop 13:09 kivilahtio if it enters a very deep recursion? 13:09 kivilahtio ashimema: you mean with detection, that it kills itself? 13:09 ashimema never seens a 'deep recusions error' in your console? 13:09 ashimema perl can detect some such loops.. like deep recursions 13:09 kivilahtio ashimema: is there a autodetection feature in perl to track infinite loops? 13:09 ashimema so I just had to pull the plug on my dev server to kill it.. as literally nothing else was respnding :( 13:08 kivilahtio ashimema: what do you mean perl didint detect? 13:08 ashimema it's one that perl didn't detect either 13:08 ashimema yeah.. 13:08 kivilahtio nice ! 13:08 * ashimema needs tea.. he just found an infinite loop in one of the json::validator routines.. and thus in Mojolicious::Plugin::Swagger2.. 13:07 ashimema also.. you do know there is already some api stuff in there.. ils-di, z39.50, and some others.. they're just all not all that well documented.. old fasioned 13:06 ashimema any inspiration worth taking from it if you liked their api so much ;) 13:06 ashimema misilot, what ILS have you come from 13:05 tcohen misilot: yeah, you need the API, help make it real 12:44 misilot tcohen: yup. I will just like being able to lock down the reports some so *anyone* if they know the url, can't just run it 12:40 tcohen misilot: I do that with "public reports" 12:37 misilot so having the API out there will clean up having to use reports like that, though that may still be the easiest way without calling a bunch of API calls (unless the new API can call reports, which would be cool) 12:35 misilot it's been an interesting challenge coming from an ils that had a "robust" api to writing the reports and making them accessible via json and consuming those in some webservices. Just was a bit challenging getting all the data I wanted via queries, but I was eventually able to do it. (i think, i should check that now) 12:33 tcohen misilot: definitely, and also have their own systems as consumers for whatever they want 12:33 misilot tcohen: it will be nice to have the rest API, if people want to write their own UI it will be possible in the future, or if want to include patron information in other sites such as a universities web portal 12:32 ashimema then a server exploded and now I'm trying to fix that 12:31 ashimema lots more to write 12:31 ashimema I did start working on the guidelines. 12:31 tcohen I know it opens to lots of improvement oportunities! 12:31 ashimema :) 12:31 tcohen :D 12:31 tcohen ashimema: have those guidelines so we can push the current implementation, and then we can talk about what else to do with Mojo 12:30 * ashimema also points to a Mojolicious::Plugin that can run cgi scripts under hypnotoad 12:30 * ashimema would still prefer we think about using hypnotoad over plack 12:30 tcohen (late night reading) 12:30 tcohen also, I've found that we should be using $cgi->script_name() instead of $cgi->url 12:29 tcohen HTTP_X_FORWARDED_SCRIPT_NAME vs. X-Forwarded-Script-Name 12:28 tcohen also, I'm not sure about the case 12:28 Joubu but maybe it was when it worked :) 12:28 Joubu I think I have tried it 12:28 tcohen http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/BOWMANBS/Plack-Middleware-ReverseProxyPath-0.03/lib/Plack/Middleware/ReverseProxyPath.pm 12:28 tcohen HTTP_X_TRAVERSAL_PATH 12:28 Joubu no 12:28 tcohen I think we are missing a pieve on the headers 12:28 tcohen Joubu: did u read Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath source? 12:28 kivilahtio i couldn't take it if the REST API started crashing :) 12:28 kivilahtio but I don't wan to run Koha on the same server as the REST API 12:27 kivilahtio did you know that Mojolicious has a CGI compatibility layer? 12:26 Joubu and to apply on the test server 12:26 Joubu at least for the short term solution 12:26 Joubu I'd it's the same, it does not work :) 12:26 tcohen yeah, we need to avoid that I think 12:26 Joubu tcohen: last patch hardcodes the SCRIPT_NAME occurrences with the script paths 12:26 tcohen Joubu: but it is better ;-) 12:25 Joubu which is wrong too 12:25 Joubu but wih the reverseproxypath it becomes /cgi-bin/koha/intranet/tools 12:25 Joubu so without your patch it was /intranet/tools 12:25 Joubu the url was /cgi-bin/koha/intranet/tools/import_borrowers.pl 12:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15015 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Plack testing -- Import patrons tool -- uploading file fails 12:25 Joubu tcohen: see bug 15015 12:24 Joubu it does not 12:24 tcohen why did it work on the test site? 12:23 Joubu yes, it does not work... 12:23 tcohen Joubu: you obsoleted the patch for ReverseProxyPath? 12:23 kivilahtio "CORS in Action" 12:23 wahanui well, book is commonly used for biblio record for material type so it is searching all reference, reserve etc when i limit by book 12:23 ashimema what book 12:23 kivilahtio anyway, take care! 12:22 kivilahtio ashimema: and you can skip a LOT of content 12:22 kivilahtio (relatively short) :) 12:22 kivilahtio ashimema: took me only 4h, it is very short. Only 200+ pages 12:22 kivilahtio so it shouldnt be a biggig to make a new cpan module if the mojolicious plugins suck 12:21 ashimema bet it was a good read 12:21 kivilahtio and has already a working example server-side and client side code 12:21 kivilahtio also the book discusses many key concepts realted to security on other real life challenges 12:20 kivilahtio so don't implement it or accept it to master 12:20 kivilahtio But this was my idea!!!! 12:20 kivilahtio there already are two Mojolicious Plugins for CORS, but they seem very crude. 12:20 ashimema (not one I think we need ot do imediately) 12:20 ashimema it's a two way street.. both api consumer and producer need to support it 12:19 ashimema you add such headers into your api.. to enable cross origin stuff 12:19 tcohen ok, so I was missing something 12:19 ashimema exactly.. which is what CORS is all about 12:19 misilot it is. that is why services need to provide either a whitelist of domains for like Access-Control-Allow-Origin: http://foo.example or just use Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * for their service so anyone can use it 12:19 ashimema else it's a kinda pointless thing 12:18 ashimema we use it here for other apps.. no extensions needed 12:18 tcohen maybe I'm missing something 12:18 wahanui really is more trouble than she's worth. 12:18 ashimema really.. 12:18 ashimema this is all about api's beign designed to allow it in the safe maner 12:18 tcohen I had to add an extension to chrome so i can test things 12:18 ashimema I don't believe it is tcohen 12:17 tcohen that's kind of disabled by default by all browsers? 12:17 kivilahtio he is a fast duckduckgo.com:er 12:17 ashimema CORS is much 'nicer' 12:17 ashimema jsonp also works.. but it's a hack.. 12:17 ashimema yup 12:17 kivilahtio tcohen: :) 12:17 tcohen you mean cross-origin resourse sharing? 12:17 kivilahtio it took me 4h and some discussion with our natinal library people working on some cool stuff based on open REST API's 12:16 ashimema yup CORS is pretty useful ;) 12:16 kivilahtio read the book ;) 12:16 kivilahtio too long story 12:16 kivilahtio and don't expect me to hold on for long. Gotta go save the workd 12:16 tcohen Why_ 12:16 kivilahtio We definetely need to provide CORS for the REST API 12:16 kivilahtio tcohen: I read CORS in Action yesterday :) What a nice book! 12:16 tcohen hey kivilahtio, it-s been a while! 12:15 kivilahtio tcohen: morning 12:15 tcohen hi Joubu 12:15 tcohen morning 11:06 putti alright 11:02 Joubu the last one is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_14_October_2015 11:02 Joubu last one is not listed there... 11:01 Joubu http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/ 11:01 Joubu and you will know when/what they are 11:01 Joubu if 1: read the emails else: subscribe 11:01 putti I think I have 11:00 Joubu Did you subscribe to the koha-devel ML? 11:00 putti what are they :D 11:00 Joubu attempt to the meeting and convince people 11:00 putti what dev meeting? 11:00 Joubu you can add this discussion for the next dev meeting 10:59 Joubu putti: that's what I have tried to do 10:59 putti We just need to do the decision to start using cucumber etc. and then when someone has the time to implement it he/she can do it. 10:57 Joubu the problem is that we never have the same needs at the same time 10:57 putti and maybe we need page object like thing to test all the perl scripts which offer the info from several different units. 10:57 Joubu putti: I don't know, I have start a "discussion" 6 months ago, and nobody participated, now I am on something else :) 10:54 putti So how do we proceed now that we get cucumber in more global use? 10:54 drojf hi #koha 10:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13849 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Introduce acceptance tests with cucumber 10:49 Joubu bug 13849 10:49 putti exactly 10:48 putti yes 10:48 Joubu Are you talking about acceptance tests? (ie.cucumber) 10:47 Joubu For instance? 10:47 putti Joubu, testing how the different parts of koha work together 09:48 wahanui somebody said the whole thing was xml 09:48 Joubu the whole thing? 09:39 putti Okay. So it seems like unit tests are quite uniform already and they use Test::More (only few exceptions). But then how about testing the whole thing? 09:36 Joubu I add test during the rewrite process 09:36 Joubu putti: apply all of them, than t/db_dependent/Virtualshelves.t 09:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Move the list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves 09:35 putti Joubu, in bug 14544 which commit to look at? 09:31 Joubu hehe, yes this one should a rewrite too 09:30 marcelr now Tags :) 09:30 Joubu C4::Virtualshelves::Page was one of the worst Koha module 09:30 marcelr Page.pm was the ugliest part 09:30 Joubu it will be a huge improvement for this module :) 09:29 marcelr Joubu++ 09:29 Joubu Passed qa! whouhou :) thanks marcelr! 09:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Move the list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves 09:29 Joubu putti: I quite like the way I test the new list module, see bug 14544 09:28 Joubu Prefer to read recent over the last files never modified for 3 years 09:27 putti but I have seen that the tests are implemented in various ways 09:27 Joubu you can have a look at the existing tests, they are the way to do 09:27 Joubu We have 2 kind of tests, the unit tests independent of data (t/*.t) and the integration tests independent of the DB data (t/db_dependent/*.t) 09:27 putti Them, but also we could have possibly some other tests like integration tests 09:26 cait_ putti: do you mean the unit tests? 09:24 putti Maybe we could do some outlines to wiki page about how the testing should be done in Koha. Also maybe we could have more specific coding guidelines? 09:20 putti cait_, hi! Do you volunteer in choosing the testing way we should use in Koha? 09:19 wahanui goodnight Francesca. You'll be back. 09:19 Francesca night all 09:18 * cait_ waves 09:16 putti We should have an uniform way of doing tests, right? Who's volunteering to decide which way it should be? 08:53 Francesca I'm nice ! (at least I hope so) 08:50 Joubu (and some are grumpy) 08:39 magnuse cait is saying people here on #koha are nice and friendly :-) 08:21 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Vilsharad, Halmstad, Sweden is 8.6°C (10:20 AM CEST on October 16, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 08:21 magnuse @wunder halmstad 08:21 huginn magnuse: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found 08:20 magnuse @wunder tylösand 08:20 huginn magnuse: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found 08:20 magnuse @wunder tylosand 07:35 Francesca sup 07:35 cait hi Francesca :) 07:34 * Francesca waves at cait 07:26 * cait waves 07:18 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on October 16, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 07:18 Francesca @wunder wlg 07:07 marcelr that is good 07:06 Joubu you almost convinced me :) 07:06 Joubu how much! 07:06 marcelr i will never win that discussion LOL 07:06 Joubu personally I don't know how this "read only" feature can be used 07:06 marcelr yes 07:05 Joubu As you said it could be done later, on a separate patch with a discussion 07:05 marcelr thinking of leaving the latest patch btw 07:05 Joubu thanks! :) 07:04 marcelr hi Joubu: I am looking at 14544 now 07:04 wahanui hello, Joubu 07:04 Joubu hello 07:00 alex_a hello 06:50 wahanui what's up, reiveune 06:50 reiveune hello 06:41 dojobo 'morning 06:26 marcelr hi #koha 00:40 Francesca nice and sunny 00:38 wizzyrea it's awesome outside 00:32 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (1:00 PM NZDT on October 16, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 00:32 cdickinson @wunder nzwn 00:00 wizzyrea I can't stop laughing. I should have warned you that I'm 12 inside.