Time Nick Message 01:30 wizzyrea facepalm? 01:30 wahanui facepalm is probably a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity. 01:30 wizzyrea facepalm? 01:30 wahanui i guess facepalm is a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity. 01:30 wizzyrea sigh. 01:31 dcook ^ 01:33 eythian facepalm? 01:33 wahanui http://buikitty.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/20120202-094434.jpg 01:33 eythian that's how you do it wizzyrea 01:33 wizzyrea curse my whatever is wrong with my networking connectivity 02:54 mtj hey #koha, is a PREDUE notice an 'overdue' type notice? 02:54 wizzyrea nope 02:54 wizzyrea it's an enhanced messaging preferences type of notices 02:54 mtj aah, ta wiz :) 02:54 wizzyrea notice* 02:54 wizzyrea or wait, what do you mean, you mean when you are defining it? 02:55 mtj basically... 02:55 wahanui basically is all but closed/wontfix/invalid 02:55 mtj "Important 02:55 mtj These new tags only work on the overdue notices, not other circulation related notices at this time." 02:55 wizzyrea it's a module circulation one 02:55 mtj from.. http://manual.koha-community.org/3.18/en/tools.html#noticemarkup 02:55 wizzyrea right, yep, it's not one of those 02:55 mtj ok :) 02:56 wizzyrea there ought to be a good way to differentiate those besides how they are described there. :/ 02:56 wizzyrea well you know, any notice can be an overdue notice, as long as it is the overdue system that's sending it 02:56 wizzyrea but that's not really clear either. 02:57 wizzyrea but to be absolutely clear: predue isn't, normally, an overdue 03:00 mtj thanks liz, i'm a bit rusty on all that stuff 03:04 * Francesca waves 03:28 eythian @wunder nzwn 03:28 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (4:00 PM NZDT on October 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). 03:28 eythian what the hell is that 03:28 eythian it's almost 20 03:28 eythian madness 03:28 wizzyrea uhmayzing. 03:28 wizzyrea is what that is. 03:28 wizzyrea worried a bit about summer though >.> 03:29 Francesca rangi: http://imgur.com/a/qOmhm 03:31 Francesca @tell later rangi: bugzilla screenshots are here http://imgur.com/a/qOmhm 03:31 huginn Francesca: Error: I haven't seen later, I'll let you do the telling. 03:31 * Francesca facepalms 03:31 wahanui http://buikitty.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/20120202-094434.jpg 03:32 wizzyrea I think you want @later tell 03:32 wizzyrea :) 03:32 Francesca lets try that again 03:32 Francesca @later tell rangi bugzilla screenshots are here http://imgur.com/a/qOmhm 03:32 huginn Francesca: The operation succeeded. 05:35 Francesca @wunder wlg 05:35 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (6:00 PM NZDT on October 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 05:59 cait hi all 06:05 * magnuse waves 06:46 reiveune hello 06:57 Joubu good morning 06:57 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one 07:04 magnuse @wunder boo 07:04 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 12, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). 07:04 magnuse @wunder liverpool 07:04 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 07:04 magnuse @wunder liverpool, uk 07:04 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Liverpool, United Kingdom is 6.0°C (7:50 AM BST on October 12, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling). 07:04 magnuse hah! 07:04 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:04 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on October 12, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 07:04 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki 07:04 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 18.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on October 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 07:05 magnuse @later tell rangi okelydokely! :-) 07:05 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 07:09 dojobo @wunder munich 07:09 huginn dojobo: Error: No such location could be found. 07:19 Francesca @wunder wlg 07:19 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on October 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 07:23 gaetan_B hello 07:25 Francesca hey 08:44 atheia g'morn koha :-) 08:44 cait hey atheia 08:45 atheia heya cait — how was the VuFind conference in the end? 08:45 cait I only went to the dinner, but people there seemed quite happy 08:45 cait the slides should be online soon 08:45 atheia still feel sheepish about the train ticket omnishambles! :-/ 08:45 cait as you shoudl :P 08:46 cait (says me... who had the wrong train tickets with her last week...) 08:46 atheia *shuffles off* :-) 08:47 cait did you get the email about the etherpad? 08:50 cait atheia: did i scare you away now? 08:51 atheia cait: oh no, just no notifications, so I chack back irregularly 08:52 atheia cait: yeah… that sounds familiar. I'll double-check. sec. 08:52 cait it seems they got some discussion going on what could be in vufind3 08:53 atheia Right, yeah. I definitely saw that and registered it as interesting… 08:54 atheia But I have misplaced the email, so it clearly didn't get beyond the "interesting" phase :-) 08:54 atheia (in my head that is) 08:55 cait heh 08:55 cait maybe you need a vacation :) 08:56 atheia always :-) 08:59 cait :) 09:03 * magnuse waves again 09:04 * atheia waves too, just because it might be a thing 09:07 magnuse oh it is! 09:09 cait :) 09:09 atheia :-) 09:09 cait first reminder to everwone... dev meeting on wednesday! 09:09 cait everyone even... 09:09 atheia And now I'm part of the thing! 09:09 cait lol 09:09 * cait waves 09:10 atheia welcome to the in-crowd ;-) 09:13 magnuse feels good, doesn't it! 09:13 cait Joubu: around? 09:47 Joubu cait: yep 10:01 cait i wanted you to see my later:) 10:28 dojobo @wunder muc 10:28 huginn dojobo: The current temperature in Munich, Germany is 8.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on October 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 10:28 dojobo better wear my jacket to lunch 11:01 magnuse @wunder boo 11:01 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on October 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising). 11:01 magnuse unseasonably warm! 11:41 dojobo magnuse: nice 12:57 tcohen morning 12:57 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argenitna 12:57 huginn tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. 12:57 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 12:57 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 18.8°C (9:55 AM ART on October 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Falling). 12:57 tcohen thanks huginn 12:58 magnuse hita tcohen 12:58 magnuse s/hita/hiya/ 12:58 tcohen hi magnuse, how was your weekend? 13:00 magnuse good! went to a children's day at the concert house, then went to our cabin in the woods where we cooked lambchops over an open fire :-) 13:03 magnuse and yours? 13:03 wahanui rumour has it yours is better actually 13:07 tcohen asado on saturday, and sunday 13:07 tcohen pizzas last night 13:11 magnuse sounds nice! 13:16 cait mmh asado 13:18 tcohen hi cait 13:19 tcohen @later tell marcelr we need to set a default upload_path on install for the 3.22 release 13:19 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 13:27 * magnuse wishes he had not missed the asado... 13:31 magnuse kia ora paul_p 13:31 magnuse better late than never ;-) 14:51 asma Hi all. I work in a library of 20000 books and we would move to koha in a near future. We want to setup our own web server. What is the minimum speed of Internet do we need? For the moment, we have 30Mbps in download and 3Mbps in upload. Thanks a lot. 14:52 asma *will 15:23 asma Hi! sorry to interrupt your work! Do you have on idea of the minimum internet uploading speed for a koha web server (we would like to install it in my library) Thanks! 15:41 tcohen Joubu: found it, my terminal is adding that weird character when I create a new line… so it is when I use vim… still didn't find how to fix it, might ask khall for his iterm2 config :-D 15:51 gaetan_B bye 15:51 reiveune bye 16:29 Joubu bye 16:39 bag oh man I want an asado now 16:47 tcohen hi bag 16:48 bag heya tcohen 16:48 tcohen you can have one each day for a whole week, just visit us :-D 16:48 bag excellent :D 16:49 tcohen i expect to have my house built by march :-D 16:49 bag great news :) construction is going well? 16:49 tcohen yeah, a bit slow at the beggining, but got lots of momentum right now 16:52 tcohen hi cait! 16:52 cait hi tcohen :) 16:52 bag hi cait 16:52 cait hi bag :) 16:53 cait tcohen: nomination page? and 4th november for the meeting? 16:54 tcohen heh 16:54 tcohen i forgot about the nomination page 16:54 tcohen will do right now 16:55 bag asado 16:55 bag ummmm 16:55 bag mmm 16:56 cait asadoooo 16:56 cait are you ok with the date? i can try to emai lthe mailing list.. i need to make slides, it's welcome procrastination :) 16:59 tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.24 16:59 cait cool thanks 16:59 * tcohen fears *freedom* 17:00 cait you fear the freedm? 17:00 cait can i just write 'will be on 4th' or do we need to have some kind of vote 17:00 cait ? 17:01 tcohen I think so 17:02 tcohen i thought we could leave that open, and if we filled all mandatory roles, then add it to the meeting agenda, otherwise, we can just have a special voting session 17:03 tcohen but I have no strong preference 17:04 cait sometimes without a 'deadline' nothing happens 17:05 tcohen ok, the 4th then 17:06 cait hm sec 17:34 asma Thanks Hi all. I work in a library of 20000 books and we have the project to move to koha in a near future. We want to setup our own web server. What is the minimum speed of Internet do we need? For the moment, we have 30Mbps in download and 3Mbps in upload. Thanks a lot. 17:36 tcohen asma: it really depends on how much you use it. 3Mbps might me too little, but depends on the real-life load 17:44 asma tcohen: we plan to have a peak of 300 people connected at the same time. What could be a minimum ? 17:46 tcohen I'm not sure, I assume that 3Mbps are reserved for Koha? 17:47 magnuse bag: HI 17:47 wahanui hello, magnuse 17:47 bag magnuse: HI 17:47 wahanui bidet, bag 17:49 magnuse knuckles! 17:49 asma Tcohen: we have 3 Mbps in upload from our ISP. It's the internet speed of our internet. 17:50 * magnuse wonders who will step up as rm 17:52 tcohen asma: you should try, it might be enough for you 17:52 tcohen there is no recipe 17:52 tcohen magnuse: me too :-D 17:53 asma tcohen: Thanks ! 17:53 bag I nominate magnuse 17:53 bag :D 17:53 tcohen magnuse: I nominate you 17:53 tcohen oh 17:53 tcohen heh 17:53 bag ;) 17:54 bag I second tcohen 18:02 magnuse haha 18:03 * liw always finds it fitting that "release manager" is abbreviated "rm" and points out that "find dirname -delete" (GNU find) is faster then "rm -rf dirname" (GNU coreutils), but sometimes suspects he's just weird 18:03 tcohen hahahahah 18:43 cait heh 19:11 rangi morning 19:12 liw rangi, good morningses 19:12 rangi https://imgur.com/a/qOmhm <-- francesca has been working on themeing bugzilla to be more Koha ish .. what do people think? 19:16 tcohen hi rangi 19:16 rangi hi liw and tcohen 19:16 tcohen looks great 19:16 tcohen miles better than the current one 19:18 rangi cool 19:20 cait morning rangi 19:20 hector \back 19:20 cait i like it 19:20 cait less ... dark 19:22 tcohen bye everyone 20:12 * andreashm waves 20:14 * cait waves back 20:14 cait countdown is running :) 20:15 andreashm ? 20:15 cait friday :) 20:16 andreashm ah of course. my brain is slow. 20:16 cait and i was about to ask if the little one lets you sleep a bit mre now 20:17 andreashm lots going on right now. I've invited Viktor up for a workshop on Wednesday for instance. 20:17 andreashm yeah, a little more sleep now. 20:18 andreashm but still up a lot at night. 20:18 Viktor Glad to hear andreashm 20:18 andreashm slightly better. =) 20:18 Viktor Slightly means right direction at least :) 20:18 andreashm oh, hi Viktor! 20:19 Viktor I've heard about sleep. 20:19 andreashm haha 20:20 cait :) 20:20 cait so you are cheating and meet before friday even? :) 20:21 cait ah viktor, i saw a bug that might be interesting for you 20:21 cait bug 14980 - goes the same direction as someof your developments i think 20:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14980 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Signed Off , Add a page showing one news 20:22 Viktor cait Yes it may! Thanks. 20:22 Viktor Ping xarragon for bug 14980 20:23 Viktor He's working on CMS patches for fiering up proper pages with navigation etc. It might get finished this week actually. 20:23 cait ah 20:23 cait might be worth talking then 20:30 andreashm cait: we sure will. 20:31 andreashm we have to have time to make evil plans. =) 20:31 cait ohoh 21:13 eythian hi 21:15 cait hi eythian 21:15 eythian hi cait 21:15 eythian I'm surprised wahanui didn't speak up there. 21:16 cait hi eythian 21:16 cait why would he? i bribe him regularly with cookies 21:16 eythian heh 21:16 eythian wahanui: botsnack 21:16 wahanui :) 21:20 Brooke 0/ 21:20 cait hi Brooke 21:20 Brooke :) 21:20 rangi hey Brooke 21:20 Brooke How's it going? 22:20 Brooke tea! 23:22 dcook Boo Bibframe... http://bibframe.org/vocab/authorizedAccessPoint.html 23:22 * dcook wonders what percentage of websites relating to linked data actually work anymore 23:24 dcook Hmm, looks like the cached version is from the 8th... so who knows.. 23:31 Francesca hello! 23:32 Francesca @wunder wlg 23:32 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (12:00 PM NZDT on October 13, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 23:39 dcook <bf:extent>xv, 170 p. ;</bf:extent> 23:39 dcook Because that makes sense... 23:39 dcook Sure from an AACR2/RDA perspective but... what? 23:40 dcook Let's use a machine readable format but make the data only reliably parseable by humans 23:40 dcook \o/ 23:40 rangi yeah, bibframe, its not much better than marcxml 23:41 dcook That's my thought so far :/ 23:41 dcook And I'll still never get over how RDA is basically AACR3 23:41 dcook But...RDA! RDA! 23:41 * dcook twitches 23:41 rangi yeah, and how it took so long 23:42 dcook It's a bit mind-boggling 23:42 dcook I'd love to see some examples of library linked data in action though... 23:43 dcook Not really a great example: http://bibframe.org//resources/sample-lc-1/exhibit.html 23:43 dcook Since it's just linking to itself 23:43 dcook I mean... cool in that it links to other records but it's still its own site 23:43 dcook Actually, rangi, you might know the answer... how do you decide what to show from the linked records? Is it just up to the application? 23:44 rangi afaik yeah 23:44 dcook Ahh k 23:44 dcook I wonder a bit how it would work... 23:44 dcook For original cataloguing, you'd do up your own records, and maybe link to authority sources 23:44 dcook But what about copy cataloguing? 23:45 rangi no idea, gmcharlt might know 23:45 dcook Hmm, perhaps I should pester him 23:45 dcook My interest in LoD seems to go up and down periodically 23:46 rangi i like the idea of it 23:46 gmcharlt dcook: that is part of the $64K quesiton 23:46 gmcharlt (you get to pick which country supplies the dollars) 23:46 rangi heh 23:47 dcook gmcharlt: Hmm? 23:48 dcook The dollars in terms of hosting the servers which will be bombarded? 23:48 gmcharlt dcook: heh, part of it 23:48 gmcharlt but what I'm driving at is more the questions of what the users want/need 23:48 gmcharlt e.g., LOD in theory means that you can pull in All The Vocabularies!!! 23:48 dcook Mmm, yes, I was wondering about that as well 23:49 gmcharlt but... All The Vocabularies!!! is not necessarily of that much interest to a parent looking to see what book their toddler will chew on next 23:49 dcook So even if you download someone else's record... you might want to completely change the links.. 23:49 dcook Or would you create a record and link the main part to the original? 23:50 dcook gmcharlt: True that 23:50 gmcharlt OTOH, a patron who is a movie buff may actually want to figure out what movies the library has that feature (a) Sean Bean (b) not dying 23:50 * dcook doesn't recall chewing on books but his wife assures him that their progeny will do so 23:50 dcook lol 23:50 dcook That would be rather interesting 23:51 ibeardslee gmcharlt: No Results 23:51 gmcharlt one part of the problem is the difficulty of predicted how much induced demand for moar data will crop up 23:51 gmcharlt ibeardslee: actually, there is now a result! :) (The Martian) 23:52 dcook Spoilers :p 23:52 * dcook needs to go see that... 23:52 * dcook wasn't that keen until he saw gmcharlt's recent endoresement 23:53 dcook gmcharlt: That certainly seems to be an issue, although I think that libraries don't know what to do with the data they have now 23:53 dcook Or rather... they don't know what data users really need/want 23:53 wizzyrea hi 23:53 dcook heya wizzyrea 23:53 wahanui lizardrea 23:53 wizzyrea *snerk* 23:56 gmcharlt dcook: I think it boils down to toss the data at the wall to see what sticks 23:56 gmcharlt *tossing 23:57 * dcook shudders 23:58 dcook It is tough knowing what users want/need of course... 23:58 dcook I had someone recently ask that 505$t not be indexed into Title 23:58 dcook Sure... there might be someone who doesn't want to get hits if the search string is in 505$t 23:58 dcook But other people might want to find a record if it has a title in 505$t 23:59 dcook Of course, that's more of an access/indexing issue... but it still goes to show that different people want different things 23:59 * dcook is having flashbacks to his master's class in taxonomic classification 23:59 dcook That's the other thing... there's so many levels