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23:09 cdickinson nah, I'm not actually going to drink
23:09 Francesca I'm not coming so its up to you
23:08 cdickinson is it too early for beer
23:08 cdickinson it's one of those days
23:08 wahanui Sod it all, let's head to the pub!
23:08 Francesca wahanui be eythian
22:52 wahanui OK, eythian.
22:52 eythian wahanui: smart questions is <reply>http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
22:52 wahanui eythian: i'm not following you...
22:52 eythian wahanui: smart questions
22:51 tcohen hi eythian
22:51 eythian tcohen: only just
22:49 Francesca hi
22:47 tcohen morning?
22:23 wizzyrea O.o
21:46 cdickinson wat
21:46 cdickinson Reading package lists... 342%
21:46 cdickinson I just ran apt-get upgrade on this machine
21:41 wahanui hola, eythian
21:41 eythian hi
21:38 grharry :P
21:38 grharry :-(
21:27 grharry sorry I mean after running /usr/share/koha/bin/devel/update_dbix_class_files.pl
21:26 grharry I seem to get a problem after running update_bin/devel/dbix_class_files.pl /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Schema/Result/Reserve.pm file is Different than the Original ... Anybody with An IDEA ???
20:55 wizzyrea sleep well :)
20:55 liw however, now sleep should happen to me
20:55 liw beginning of 2010 was a year when things happened
20:54 wizzyrea it's funny because it's true
20:53 wizzyrea hahaha!
20:53 liw even if I learn to never, ever anger research librarians, for they politely show you every way in which you're wrong, and use footnotes and source references
20:52 liw Koha continues to be one of nicer free software communities, ever
20:52 wizzyrea <3
20:52 liw I'm really glad it helped the Koha community :)
20:51 wizzyrea (but seriously, without the kick in the pants you gave the packaging, nobody would have ever gotten around to it)
20:51 liw possibly I should try to find an opportunity to do a new bit, but it'd need to be in some kind of sprint with people who know Koha, some day
20:50 wizzyrea one of the things I particularly like about working with Koha, is that whenever I use a part of it, I can reasonably say that I know the person who made it.
20:49 wizzyrea :)
20:49 wizzyrea we should praise you every time we koha-create
20:49 wizzyrea bs, you did like, heaps of stuff for the packages that we still use and depend on
20:49 wizzyrea liw++
20:49 liw I don't even do anything for Koha
20:49 wizzyrea oh you deserve more than that
20:49 huginn liw: Karma for "liw" has been increased 11 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 11.
20:48 liw @karma liw
20:48 wizzyrea hehe liw
20:48 huginn kchris: Karma for "kchris" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
20:48 kchris @karma kchris
20:48 liw kchris++ much polite, very plusplus
20:48 huginn wizzyrea: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 65 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 65.
20:47 wizzyrea @karma wizzyrea
20:47 wizzyrea \o/
20:47 wizzyrea but yes, good point we don't normally decrement people.
20:47 kchris wizzyrea++ thanks for the explanation.
20:47 wizzyrea yes, exactly. and it is also deserving of ire.
20:47 gmcharlt since IE is not actually a person, after all
20:46 kchris I see.
20:46 wizzyrea hehe
20:46 wizzyrea well, we do -- pretty often... on IE.
20:46 wizzyrea ^.^
20:46 wizzyrea we don't like IE
20:46 huginn wizzyrea: Karma for "IE" has been increased 1 time and decreased 27 times for a total karma of -26.
20:46 wizzyrea @karma IE
20:45 wizzyrea keke
20:45 huginn wizzyrea: cthulu has neutral karma.
20:45 huginn gmcharlt: Karma for "cthulhu" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
20:45 wizzyrea @karma cthulu
20:45 gmcharlt @karma cthulhu
20:45 gmcharlt cthulhu--
20:45 wizzyrea you can also -- but we don't do that very often
20:45 wizzyrea we like him :)
20:45 huginn wizzyrea: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 164 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 164.
20:45 wizzyrea @karma gmcharlt
20:45 wizzyrea they get a point
20:45 wizzyrea so each time you ++
20:44 wizzyrea it denotes adding karma
20:44 kchris sorry, wizzyrea
20:43 kchris wizzrea: what does ++ after a nickname mean? is it like a compliment?
20:14 wizzyrea gmcharlt++ awesome thank you
20:13 gmcharlt yeah, I've put in a less restricive robots.txt
20:12 wizzyrea though, not like we've changed it (or ever change it)
20:12 wizzyrea probably do need to allow them to index the home page?
20:11 gmcharlt Google may be hangling on to an outdated titile since we're excluding robots from that server
20:11 gmcharlt hmm, doesn't look like that string is being returned by the Koha gitweb
20:05 wizzyrea :)
20:05 wizzyrea drojf: "i just found that the page title displayed by google for git.koha-community.org is "git.koha.org". can that be changed maybe? http://abunchofthings.net/koha/pics/git_title.png"
20:05 gmcharlt wizzyrea: what's the antecedent?
20:05 wizzyrea drojf: I think gmcharlt may have to fix that, or someone at bywater, that's not a web property I have much to do with.
19:32 tcohen1 hi
19:31 tcohen1 hi
18:19 wnickc hmm..I know I got them working on my vm, but I think I didn't use the package tools to do so
18:16 Kchris Only English shows up in the preferences--the other languages I have installed don't.
18:15 Kchris I finally got the languages to install on kohadevbox (with help from Magnus), but I haven't yet managed to "activate" the languages within the administrator web interface.
18:14 wnickc the images were package installs, so nothing tricky I don't think
18:14 Kchris thanks!
18:13 wnickc yeah, just following the instrcutions should go easily https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
18:13 Kchris yes
18:13 wnickc It should be, you mean one of the boxes from the Kohana wiki
18:12 Kchris I mean on a virtualbox
18:12 Kchris wnickc: gitifying koha on a kohabox--is this pretty straightforward?
18:10 Kchris congratulations!
18:09 Kchris hi wnickc
18:09 wnickc hi Kchris
17:58 pianohacker hi!
16:31 nitz0 (koha 3.20 packet)
16:31 nitz0 Is there another way than editing Sendmail.pm to configure smntp service?
16:30 nitz0 Hi people.
14:47 drojf or, did not have, but were supposed to?
14:46 drojf oh, we had a meeting yesterday?
14:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14890: Simplify processing to display a date with hours <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=56ede58a86274e0f70fc27c0907cd14f03dd77c4> / Bug 14890: Remove C4::Dates from circ/bookcount.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=790ef7052b1f0068892081b2280bbd6d78ab0783> / Bug 14924: Remove C4::Dates from members/memberentry.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k
13:40 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
13:40 drojf @later tell wizzyrea i just found that the page title displayed by google for git.koha-community.org is "git.koha.org". can that be changed maybe? http://abunchofthings.net/koha/pics/git_title.png
13:35 schnydszch which is 650$9
13:34 schnydszch I wanted to update the RLIN of the authority records
13:32 schnydszch ..in the biblioitems table
13:32 schnydszch Hello all! If I update the marcxml in biblioitems, are there any repercussions? I see that there's a marc column and marcxml columns.
13:20 ashimema but I've been crap at maanging to dig out the details.. the commithash went away that was mentioned to him when we first came accros it as a bug
13:20 Joubu at the moment I am stuck with it, see the last patch on the bug report. I didn't manage to make some tests pass
13:20 ashimema I still havn't managed to pin down the actual issue.. he thought/we thought there was somtihng wrong in dbic itself that meant our usage was loosing connections..
13:19 drojf or benchmarking in general that people use with koha
13:19 ashimema Joubu.. would it be a good idea to get ribasushi to give that patch a once over..
13:19 drojf are there other koha benchmarking things than what is in load_testing st the moment?
13:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14778 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Get rid of DBIx::Connector
13:18 Joubu ashimema: I hope it should be better when bug 14778 will be pushed
13:17 ashimema but i'm struggling to narrow them down enough to make head nor tails of it.
13:17 ashimema burrently we're hvin some teething issues with db connections going away..
13:17 ashimema bit cutsomre..
13:17 ashimema we're runing plack and cgi in parallel to test plack in production
13:16 drojf tcohen: will have to wait for the new notebook probably. not doing much koha at home et the moment and the office computer is too slow for everything and not capable of the 64bit vt
13:16 ashimema ?
13:16 Joubu jcamins: so it will certainly be a bit cold, but if you are lucky you will get sun, blue sky and no wind :)
13:15 tcohen ashimema++
13:10 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
13:10 tcohen Joubu: good morning
13:08 tcohen cannot create label batches
13:08 tcohen so far: upgrade needed detection yields weird situation where you cannot login
13:07 tcohen drojf: did you give kohadevbox/ansible a chance?
13:07 tcohen i found a couple problems that need to be addressed
13:06 tcohen drojf: i played with it
13:06 drojf tcohen: are you running plack in production?
13:05 drojf dpavlin's library probably. some biblibre libraries too maybe?
13:04 drojf do we know who uses plack in production already?
12:57 jcamins Joubu: I'm thinking about a vacation for November, actually.
12:47 tcohen morning!
12:44 Joubu If you plan to come on Saturday it will be sunny, otherwise rain on the beginning of next week :-/
12:43 Joubu for the weather forecast, have a look at the meteofrance.fr website: http://www.meteofrance.com/previsions-meteo-france/marseille/13000
12:43 Joubu There was flooding last week in the south of France, near Nice
12:43 Joubu jcamins: no I live in Liverpool now, for 2 years :)
12:11 jcamins liw: hehe.
12:11 liw jcamins, the almost total lack of polar bears is an advantage, wouldn't you say? :)
12:11 liw (better in January, when there's snow on the ground)
12:11 jcamins liw: yeah, that I know. The question is whether there are enough advantages to Oslo in November.
12:11 liw (Helsink is miserable in November)
12:10 liw but as Oslo is at an ocean, and Helsinki is not, I don't know how the weather in Oslo is going to be
12:10 liw oslo is about as northern as helsinki, so I'm going to say the daylight hours are going to be few and short in November
12:10 drojf i think snow is what makes the north less dark in winter. that and the northern lights :)
12:09 jcamins drojf: I'm not a huge fan of snow and dark, so Oslo seems like it might be a poor choice... on the other hand, maybe Oslo is especially beautiful in November.
12:08 liw (this is usually quite easy, as there aren't any in Oslo, unless they have a zoo with them)
12:07 liw jcamins, if you go to Oslo in November, you should make sure you do not get eaten by polar bears
12:07 drojf that depends on the weather you would like to have i guess :D
12:05 jcamins So did Oslo, so when magnuse is around, I'm going to ask him how crazy Oslo is as a vacation destination in November.
12:05 jcamins drojf: considering a vacation, and Marseille seemed to have affordable flights.
12:04 drojf jcamins: going to marseille?
12:00 jcamins Joubu: you live in Marseille too, right? How's the weather?
10:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14778 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Get rid of DBIx::Connector
10:47 Joubu I am stuck on bug 14778, need some help. If there are some DBIC exports around... The tests mocking the data fail after removing the use of DBIx::Connector
09:17 ashimema lol
09:17 mtj but, just a thought..
09:17 mtj perhaps the build times would become horrible, and it would use a f*ckton of disk
09:14 mtj hmm, let me explain further... -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk
09:13 mtj s/known/unknown/
09:12 mtj i wonder if it would reveal any known problems
09:11 mtj hey, i was thinking .... why not turn up DBI_TRACE on the jenkins nodes
09:02 drojf mtompsett wll know ;)
09:01 mtj ^ i would like to be corrected, if that is untrue
08:57 mtj ..so, they work just fine with the 'default' config disabled
08:57 drojf i have not done much with jessie yet, but a correctly (AFAIK) set up koha site did not get round the default website yesterday
08:56 mtj afaik, all web apps install themselves in the /etc/apache/conf.d/* dir
08:56 drojf mtj: i have been disabling that hundreds of times ;)
08:54 mtj it seems to be a perfectly safe thing to do, 99% of the time
08:54 mtj ..i think now for debian jessie, disabling the 'default' apache will not break anything
08:52 mtj drojf: i just read your apache email :)
08:02 marcelr hi #koha
07:34 drojf morning #koha
07:32 dojobo hi there
07:14 wahanui bonjour, alex_a
07:14 alex_a bonjour
06:59 wahanui hi, reiveune
06:59 reiveune hello
06:52 Joubu Hello #koha
05:07 eythian later, good luck!
05:07 Pete__ awesome. Off I go. I'll return here at a more reasonable time next time! Have a good day / night / etc!
05:07 eythian (zebra is the search engine koha uses behind the scenes, but it can also talk z39.50, but you don't need to know that here :)
05:06 eythian heh
05:06 wahanui i heard Z39.50 was the ANSI standard of the beast.
05:06 Pete__ Z39.50?
05:06 eythian Z39.50, yes
05:06 Pete__ Yes! That's what I'm shooting for. This Zebra thing is the answer to that, yes?
05:06 eythian 1-2 minutes per book rather than about half an hour each to catalogue it from scratch.
05:06 eythian you should be able to get it to the point of barcode scanning the ISBN, loading the record, tweaking a few things, and saving.
05:05 eythian oh yeah, you don't want to do this manually, that'd be terrible
05:05 Pete__ Awesome. This is a small school library here but I'd still rather not ask them to enter in all the info manually. I'm sure we'll have to for at least a few things but the more I can automate the better. I'll check this out. Thanks guys.
05:04 eythian oh yeah, that one I forget about
05:03 eythian when you go to the cataloguing interface, there's an option to add from Z39.50
05:03 ashimema or http://irspy.indexdata.com/ is often helpful
05:03 Pete__ Thanks eythian for the link
05:03 Pete__ I don't remember seeing that anywhere in the config, but at least now I have something to go on...
05:03 eythian that page could really do with some more entries
05:02 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Open_Z39.50_Sources <-- Pete__, this might be useful if the sources you already have aren't helpful
05:02 wahanui eythian: sorry...
05:02 eythian wahanui: I'm not talking to you
05:01 wahanui que tal, eythian
05:01 eythian ashimema: howdy
05:01 ashimema hi chaps
05:01 eythian you can enter the ISBN and look it up in a bunch of libraries, e.g. library of congress.
05:01 Pete__ Ha, nice, okay... I remember seeing that somewhere...
05:01 eythian (because it's really old when those names were still cool.)
05:00 eythian it's called Z39.50
05:00 eythian it doesn't use amazon, but there is a lookup thing
05:00 Pete__ I must be missing something... right?
05:00 Pete__ Is there by chance some "amazon lookup" thing where I don't have to enter in information about every single book? This school is just getting started from scratch.
05:00 Pete__ I got the linux install ok no problem, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to add BOOKS in there from the school's library
04:59 Pete__ Basically, I set up Koha for the first time for a small school here in Chicago
04:59 Pete__ Haha, I'm in Chicago -- do you have time for a quick question?
04:59 eythian I think the US is asleep, NZ is about to go home, and europe is about to wake up.
04:58 eythian though, you're on a slightly odd timezone border so it's quiet about now.
04:58 eythian it is
04:58 Pete__ Hello? Anyone out there? I'm looking for some Koha help... is this the right place?
03:47 eythian gah, and I just spent ages staring at something to see why it wasn't working. Turns out it was working just fine, I hadn't noticed.
03:41 eythian ^-- I misread that variable each time I see it.
03:41 eythian if ( $hits && $offset + $results_per_page <= $hits ) {
03:24 jcamins It's also the beginning of October right now.
03:24 eythian well, it says clear, but I don't recall what sort of humidity leads to snow, but I'm sure it's not 72% at 14° because that'd be a pretty freaky snowfall.,
03:22 jcamins Cold and dreary, no.
03:22 jcamins And sun. Cold and sunny I like.
03:21 jcamins eythian: what I'm really concerned about, actually, is snow. I hate snow.
03:21 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Cedar Grove Cemetery, Flushing, New York, New York is 16.0°C (11:06 PM EDT on October 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
03:21 jcamins @wunder 11375
03:20 eythian but it's 5am, so probably warmer in a few hours
03:20 eythian jcamins: 14° :)
03:20 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 14.0°C (5:00 AM CEST on October 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
03:20 eythian @wunder marseille
03:20 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
03:20 jcamins @later tell paul_p How is the weather in Marseille in November?
02:25 mtj nice link eythian
00:51 pianohacker ldap--
00:51 pianohacker bye all
00:30 wizzyrea that graphic
00:28 eythian http://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks <-- good domain, entertaining read
00:01 BobB hi mtj about?