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23:22 Francesca weird
23:21 Francesca oh dear
23:21 ibeardslee doesn't like the https
23:21 Francesca whah webpage is down
23:14 ibeardslee https://koha-community.org/ :(
22:42 huginn eythian: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
22:42 eythian @etym daffodil
22:41 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
22:41 huginn eythian: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
22:41 eythian @monologue
22:41 pianohacker good night all!
22:39 eythian I guess we don't have that plugin
22:39 huginn eythian: downloading the Perl source
22:39 eythian @praise wahanui
22:38 eythian no fight :<
22:38 huginn eythian: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:38 eythian @fight MARC RDA BIBFRAME
22:29 wizzyrea teehee
22:29 huginn pianohacker: Quote #██: "<█████> ███████ make windows crash, █████████ ███████ █████ ███████ █████." (█████ by ████████ at 01:53 AM, ████ ██, 2010)
22:29 pianohacker @redact --chance 3 [quote random]
22:29 huginn pianohacker: I've exhausted my database of quotes
22:29 pianohacker @redac --chance 3 [quote random]
22:28 huginn pianohacker: Quote #283: "<ashimema> ... █████ like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P" (added by ████████ at 01:29 ██, November 01, ████)
22:28 pianohacker @redact [quote random]
22:28 huginn pianohacker: █████ #246: "trea: kf no longer needs the weirding module" (added by wizzyrea at ██:██ AM, May ██, 2013)
22:28 pianohacker @redact [quote random]
22:27 pianohacker http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Zoia_or_the_Code4Lib_IRC_bot
22:27 wizzyrea yes that could be
22:27 wizzyrea and it would seem that they are less nice than us :P
22:27 eythian wizzyrea: or forked from it in the past perhaps
22:27 huginn eythian: Roy=saint, or Joe of Arc since leaving CDL?
22:27 eythian @anon
22:26 wizzyrea with #code4lib
22:26 wizzyrea this bot is shared with code4lib, I bet
22:26 huginn pianohacker: _I_ don't know.
22:26 pianohacker @eightball am I being unreasonably mean to wizzyrea?
22:26 wizzyrea I know
22:26 wizzyrea oh oh oh
22:26 huginn wizzyrea: Roy's a big boy--think he can speak to OCLC's desire to act like Microsoft and assert dominance over an informal organization
22:26 wizzyrea @anon pianohacker
22:26 wizzyrea j/k not really
22:26 * wizzyrea cries
22:26 pianohacker no, LDAP is!
22:25 * wizzyrea is not at nekls
22:25 pianohacker gosh, wizzyrea, can't you read?
22:25 pianohacker No, LDAP is Liz Rea, with NEKLS
22:25 * wizzyrea sulks
22:25 wizzyrea NO LDAP IS.
22:25 wizzyrea hm.
22:25 pianohacker wizzyrea: you're apparently a wicked pain to get working
22:25 huginn eythian: "cormorant": The common cormorant or shag Lays eggs inside a paper bag; "light-speed": 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight; "zebra": the bane of our existence
22:25 eythian @factoids random
22:24 wizzyrea rofl.
22:24 wizzyrea wot
22:24 huginn eythian: "wizzyrea": Liz Rea, NEKLS; "LDAP": a wicked pain to get working; "light-speed": 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight
22:24 eythian @factoids random
22:23 pianohacker bah
22:23 huginn pianohacker: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:23 pianohacker @news add 0 Potatoes: continue to be delicious
22:23 cait oh good
22:23 huginn cait: I doubt it very much.
22:23 cait @eightball will I be tired tomorrow?
22:23 huginn cait: Come again?
22:23 cait @eightball
22:23 huginn pianohacker: (news add [<channel>] <expires> <subject>: <text>) -- Adds a given news item of <text> to a channel with the given <subject>. If <expires> isn't 0, that news item will expire <expires> seconds from now. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
22:23 pianohacker @help news add
22:23 cait hi all :)
22:22 * wizzyrea blinks
22:22 huginn wizzyrea: Error: 'Everything' is not a valid number of seconds.
22:22 wizzyrea @news add Everything is awesome
22:22 eythian pianohacker: definitely breaking news
22:22 pianohacker hi cait
22:22 eythian hello cait
22:22 huginn pianohacker: Error: NoRecordError(6,) is not a valid news item id.
22:22 pianohacker @news 6
22:22 pianohacker woah, up to the minute!
22:22 huginn eythian: Error: NoRecordError(4,) is not a valid news item id.
22:21 eythian @news 4
22:21 huginn pianohacker: The Koha website has moved to koha-community.org, join us there! (Subject: "Website has moved", added by 5 on 06:11 PM, September 22, 2010)
22:21 pianohacker @news 5
22:21 huginn pianohacker: Error: 'get' is not a valid integer.
22:21 pianohacker @news get 5
22:21 cait hi wizzyrea
22:21 huginn eythian: News for #koha: (#5) Website has moved
22:21 eythian @news
22:21 wizzyrea oh hi cait.
22:21 wizzyrea def.
22:21 cait :)
22:21 eythian pony is better, I feel
22:21 pianohacker that may be the best one yet
22:21 wizzyrea teehee
22:20 huginn *clap*
22:20 huginn *clap*
22:20 huginn *clap*
22:20 huginn *clap*
22:20 wizzyrea @slowclap
22:20 wizzyrea list @tea
22:20 wizzyrea also beslubbering
22:20 huginn pianohacker: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:20 pianohacker @penny
22:20 wizzyrea that is an underused insult.
22:19 huginn pianohacker: Is it possible Google is sending back invalid HTML?
22:19 pianohacker @dow
22:19 wizzyrea clotpole.
22:19 huginn eythian: Thou beslubbering common-kissing clotpole!
22:19 eythian @shake
22:19 pianohacker @rly
22:19 wizzyrea ^ classic.
22:19 eythian that's how it works
22:18 wizzyrea that is not what I meant.
22:18 * huginn brews and pours a pot of None, and sends it sliding down the bar to earl grey (http://ratetea.com/tea/teavivre/huang-shan-mao-feng-green-tea/6041/)
22:18 wizzyrea @tea earl grey
22:18 * huginn brews and pours a pot of None, and sends it sliding down the bar to wizzyrea (http://ratetea.com/tea/teehaus-bachfischer/bio-pao-chung-pouchong/7609/)
22:18 wizzyrea @tea
22:18 eythian ...
22:18 huginn eythian: Is it in yet?
22:18 eythian @twss
22:18 eythian probably accessing long gone webservices
22:18 wizzyrea @decide
22:18 eythian there are many things that are broken in the bot
22:18 huginn pianohacker: If Chuck Norris needs a gun, he sticks two fingers out and shoots. If he needs a silencer, he takes his other hand and wraps it around his fingers.
22:17 pianohacker @chucknorris
22:17 wizzyrea it doesn't like me.
22:17 huginn wizzyrea: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:17 wizzyrea @quakes
22:17 huginn misilot
22:17 eythian @someone
22:17 wizzyrea ooooo
22:17 huginn wizzyrea: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:17 wizzyrea @compliment pianhacker
22:17 huginn pianohacker: who, whose, wine, and wodehouse
22:17 pianohacker @more
22:17 huginn pianohacker: pony, prez, professor, quakes, redact, reminder, rly, rnd, runoff, runoffers, sandp, senate, shake, sheen, should, skillz, slowclap, snow, someone, sortinghat, stab, stanford, stock, swill, swineflu, talks2008, talks2009, talks2010, talks2011, talks2012, talks2013, tdih, tea, toast, tshirters, tshirts, tshirts2009, tshirts2010, tshirts2011, twss, underbelly, voters2007, votes2007, whiskey, whisky, (1 more message)
22:17 pianohacker @more
22:17 huginn pianohacker: inaworld, indieduel, intensify, isit420, isitfriday, isiticedcoffeeweather, isitrainingin, isitwhiskeytime, isitwhiskytime, itr, jihad, journal, jvoters, jvotes, kayfabe, keynotes2009, keynotes2010, keynotes2011, keynotes2012, keynotes2013, lastjournal, lhc, librarian, library, logo2008, lurkers, luther, moe, nasdaq, necode4lib, nonsense, nytags, obama, occupy, once, orsome, pac, penny, pick, pong, (2 more messages)
22:17 pianohacker @more
22:17 wizzyrea oh boy.
22:17 huginn pianohacker: anon, arch, bar, bartender, beck, bin2int, bitch, blues, bubble2009, chucknorris, cluephone, cocktail, coffee, complain, compliment, cowbell, dance, debt, decide, deli, developer, devil, dnd, dow, duel, excuse, flu, foodholiday, ftse, gamma, gc, grumpycat, haiku, halfbaked, haverfood, hench, hero, hillary, history, hosters, hosts2008, hosts2009, hosts2010, hosts2011, hosts2012, hosts2013, house, (3 more messages)
22:17 pianohacker @list assorted
22:17 huginn mtj let the dogs out.
22:17 pianohacker @who let the dogs out?
22:17 huginn NO
22:17 huginn
22:17 huginn > n <
22:17 huginn . .
22:17 huginn ^ ^
22:17 eythian @grumpycat
22:16 huginn eythian: XML - A magic elixir of legend, claiming to solve all problems while inevitably exacting an ironic cost.
22:16 eythian @devil
22:15 huginn pianohacker: You will be Told about it Tomorrow. Go Home and Prepare Thyself.
22:15 pianohacker @fortune
22:15 pianohacker ooh!
22:14 huginn eythian: -2535 days left
22:14 eythian @lhc
22:14 wizzyrea that's humorous
22:12 eythian http://xkcd.com/798/ <-- see also
22:12 * huginn screams: oh good grief wahanui! Will you please go and sign off some bugs instead?
22:12 pianohacker @lart wahanui
22:12 huginn eythian: 'fucking bored': -7.15; 'bored as shit': -8.37
22:12 eythian @intensify bored
22:12 wizzyrea hrmph.
22:12 huginn wizzyrea: Error: There is no command "releaseday".
22:12 wizzyrea @help releaseday
22:11 huginn wizzyrea: (list [--private] [<plugin>]) -- Lists the commands available in the given plugin. If no plugin is given, lists the public plugins available. If --private is given, lists the private plugins.
22:11 wizzyrea @list releaseday add
22:11 huginn wizzyrea: add, arewethereyet, change, get, remove, search, and stats
22:11 wizzyrea @list releaseday
22:11 wizzyrea ok that makes up for it.
22:11 ibeardslee win
22:11 eythian ahahahahaha
22:11 wizzyrea hhahaha
22:11 huginn ^^ not yours
22:11 huginn / '\_)
22:11 huginn ,;;' ( '\
22:11 huginn ,;;' \
22:11 huginn ,//)
22:11 eythian @pony
22:10 wizzyrea dafuq
22:10 huginn pianohacker: Error: 'anon' is not a valid plugin.
22:10 pianohacker @list anon
22:10 pianohacker what on earth?
22:10 eythian that explains it, slightly
22:10 eythian ah
22:10 huginn pianohacker: (anon ) -- Spits out random nonsense from 'anon,' that loveable idiot of a troll
22:10 pianohacker @help anon
22:10 huginn wizzyrea: But you don't now--you're a vendor.
22:10 wizzyrea @anon
22:10 eythian huginn's database seems to have some bitterness about code4lib, I think
22:09 huginn pianohacker: Roy=saint, or Joe of Arc since leaving CDL?
22:09 pianohacker @anon
22:09 wizzyrea uh.
22:09 eythian ...
22:09 huginn eythian: you don't belong to code4lib, since you acted in an unwelcome fashion there and were shunned accordingly.
22:09 eythian @anon
22:09 huginn eythian: Blair Eggleston was a man who wore side-whiskers and if the truth were known, was probably a secret beret-wearer as well.
22:09 eythian @wodehouse
22:09 pianohacker wow
22:08 huginn It's been a tsunami. And I've been riding it on a mercury surfboard.
22:08 pianohacker @sheen
22:08 huginn I'm just giving them what I guess they want, I just don't know if they can handle it. Pussies.
22:08 pianohacker @sheen
22:08 huginn Good luck on your travels. You're going to need it. Badly.
22:08 eythian @sheen
22:08 wahanui wizzyrea: Koha =is= wrong spelling, but koha is GREAT|coffee
22:08 wizzyrea literal Koha
22:08 wahanui Koha is coffee
22:08 wizzyrea well, Koha?
22:08 eythian Yeah. It's just, release of what?
22:08 pianohacker are you calling for john cena?
22:07 pianohacker sorry, no clue here
22:07 wizzyrea it always had releaseday?
22:07 eythian it's always been like this
22:07 eythian no
22:07 huginn BBRRRRrrringgg! It's for pianohacker
22:07 eythian @cluephone pianohacker
22:07 wizzyrea did we improve our bot?
22:06 eythian ^-- approved
22:06 huginn eythian: Yes!
22:06 eythian @isitwhiskytime
22:05 huginn pianohacker: No matching releasedays were found.
22:05 pianohacker @releaseday search *
22:05 huginn pianohacker: (releaseday get [<channel>] <id>) -- Gets the releaseday with id <id> from the releaseday database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
22:05 pianohacker @releaseday get
22:05 huginn eythian: Communication:8, BigPicture:15, DetailOriented:6, KungFu:13, GetsStuffDone:11, FlakeFactor:12, JavaAvoidance:14
22:05 eythian @developer
22:04 huginn eythian: strength:9 dexterity:14 constitution:15 intelligence:14 wisdom:14 charisma:13
22:04 eythian @dnd
22:04 huginn pianohacker: YES!
22:04 pianohacker @arewethereyet
22:04 huginn pianohacker: add, arewethereyet, change, get, remove, search, and stats
22:04 pianohacker @list ReleaseDay
22:04 huginn pianohacker: Error: There is no command "releaseday".
22:04 pianohacker @help ReleaseDay
22:04 huginn pianohacker: Admin, Alias, Assorted, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, MeetBot, Misc, Network, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, ReleaseDay, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather
22:04 pianohacker @list
22:04 huginn pianohacker: (hosts2013 ) -- Shows votes for the next code4libcon. Courtesy of http://www.floydpinkerton.net/fun/citynames.html
22:04 pianohacker @help hosts2013
22:03 huginn eythian: downloading the Perl source
22:03 eythian huginn has some weird stuff in there.
22:03 eythian ^-- what even is this
22:03 huginn eythian: Roachtown, Illinois [87]; Quiggleville, Pennsylvania [79]; Okay, Oklahoma [74]; Plain City, Utah [52]; ['Dickeyville, Wisconsin'] [50]; Eek, Alaska [46]; Eclectic, Alabama [38]
22:03 eythian @hosts2013
21:59 wizzyrea npr is pretty funny sometimes.
21:58 eythian http://gawker.com/npr-pulled-a-brilliant-april-fools-prank-on-people-who-1557745710
21:50 huginn >>
21:50 huginn /|
21:50 huginn o/
21:50 eythian @dance
21:47 Francesca hahahahaha I had no idea that command existed
21:46 * huginn fills a pint glass with Anchor Old Foghorn, and sends it sliding down the bar to pianohacker (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/28/1445/)
21:46 bag @bartender pianohacker
21:46 eythian a 2.5% beer? Need more than that for a wednesday morning! :)
21:43 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers.
21:43 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
21:43 Francesca @roulette
21:43 * huginn fills a pint glass with Lindeman's Pęche Lambic, and sends it sliding down the bar to eythian (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/187/598/)
21:43 Francesca @bartender eythian
21:42 * huginn fills a pint glass with Satan Red, and sends it sliding down the bar to jcamins (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2789/6569/)
21:42 tcohen @bartender jcamins
21:42 Francesca damn
21:42 * nitz0 whistling softly
21:42 Francesca oh right thats what it does
21:42 huginn Francesca: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
21:42 Francesca @coffee
21:42 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
21:42 eythian @later tell drojf primarily the MARC to JSON mapping system is the main benefit.
21:41 huginn nitz0: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
21:41 nitz0 @coffee nitz0
21:41 wahanui que tal, eythian
21:41 eythian hi
21:41 pianohacker *thumbsup*
21:39 * huginn fills a pint glass with Rolling Rock Extra Pale, and sends it sliding down the bar to pianohacker (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/174/567/)
21:39 pianohacker @bartender pianohacker
21:39 * huginn fills a pint glass with Chateau Jiahu, and sends it sliding down the bar to tcohen (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/64/24259)
21:39 nitz0 @bartender tcohen
21:31 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 18.2°C (6:30 PM ART on September 29, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
21:31 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
20:40 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (9:30 AM NZDT on September 30, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady).
20:40 Francesca @wunder wlg
20:40 Francesca morning
20:35 nengard hola
20:29 northcottc Hello
20:28 wizzyrea hi
17:49 Brooke hooray :D
17:41 * Beau barks
17:36 huginn nitz0: cait was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 46 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <cait> because it won't get any more fun
17:36 nitz0 @seen cait
17:34 * Brooke gasps.
17:33 huginn Brooke: I have not seen Coda.
17:33 Brooke @seen Coda
17:33 huginn Brooke: I have not seen Beau.
17:33 Brooke @seen Beau
17:29 Brooke how's my sekrit boyfriend?
17:29 Brooke hola tejana!
17:28 nengard I'm not Nigerian :)
17:28 nengard hola Brooke
17:26 Brooke any Nigerians on perhaps?
17:26 Brooke o/
17:20 mveron Bye #koha
16:07 nitz0 buenas buenas
15:45 reiveune bye
15:44 Shane-S is there any config option I can set to see average page load times, say in the footer. I neef to confirm the server isn't the issue, that it is the network/dns.
15:22 tcohen drojf: :-P
15:04 drojf magic
15:02 drojf oh look, using the database updates helps making things work
15:00 drojf that was thoughtful
15:00 drojf lol. i @later for the long question but spam all people on the bug with the rebase question
14:50 drojf thats not the point of avoiding things :P
14:49 cait because it won't get any more fun
14:49 cait yep definitely
14:49 drojf that was a month ago. is it time to ask again? :P
14:49 drojf "It's just a tedious process, so I keep putting it off :) should do that soon though."
14:47 drojf i think it's not his favourite thing to do :D
14:45 cait you should ask eythian that :)
14:45 drojf i hope the ES stuff gets rebased to master soon :D
14:44 drojf tcohen: no, just ran into errors when i applied the file upload patches to the ES branch
14:42 tcohen drojf: questions about it?
14:15 drojf thanks!
14:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, KOHAVERSION should be statically set
14:14 tcohen drojf: bug 13758
14:13 drojf tcohen: can you tell me what bug Koha.pm was introduced in?
13:33 drojf i dont think that happened when i tested the patches
13:33 drojf hmm. why would linking upload.pl to 856$u lead to opening marc21_field_008.pl?
13:31 tcohen hi Joubu
13:31 mveron Hmm, it seems that cataloging/additem.pl always displays dates as YYYY-MM-DD (does not use syspref dateformat)
13:28 drojf tcohen: i have not looked into Search:Elasticsearch yet but i wonder if that is just more complicated to use, or there are other reasons maybe
13:26 tcohen drojf: I guess because it is trivial to code 'store this, search this'
13:23 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
13:23 drojf @later tell eythian what are the reasons to use ES through catmandu? MARC to JSON conversion and CQL, or is there more?
13:23 cait hi tcohen :)
13:23 tcohen hi cait
13:22 cait kind of a relief i am not the only one sending herself emails home :)
13:17 drojf :)
13:17 drojf just did
13:16 nengard send yourself a reminder :)
13:16 drojf hope i dont forget until i am home
13:16 drojf its not on this computer though
13:16 nengard shouldn't have reminded me :) hehe
13:15 nengard oooooo - yes pretty pretty please :) hehe
13:15 drojf oh nengard i still owe you that youtube patch. just remembering that now, got lost under a pile of things to do
13:14 drojf heh :D taking a vague look into it. i think it would not be too difficult to do
13:14 nengard :)
13:14 nengard do it drojf
13:14 mveron That would be great!
13:13 drojf with file uploads and elasticsearch coming, is there any reason not to have full text search for documents in koha? ;)
13:12 drojf hi mveron :)
13:11 mveron hi drojf :-)
13:11 drojf hi again
13:04 cait ouch
13:02 mveron ...still about 90 files left...
13:02 mveron Hi cait :-)
13:02 cait mveron++
12:59 tcohen specially when it is worth
12:59 mveron :-)
12:59 tcohen mveron: I really enjoy the resulting cleanup :-D
12:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, ASSIGNED , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy
12:49 mveron tcohen: Thanks! It is a lot of work to finally resolve Bug 12072 ...
12:47 tcohen good job with C4::Dates
12:47 tcohen hi mveron
12:39 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 18.0°C (2:30 PM CEST on September 29, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
12:39 mveron @wunder Allschwil
12:39 mveron Hi #koha
12:34 tcohen morning
12:12 barton Curses! round planet! foiled again! :-)
12:06 magnuse barton: yeah, you missed dcook by about 4.5 hours
11:35 barton ah, I meant to get on last night and ping dcook. looks like I missed him again.
10:02 * cait waves
08:29 Viktor Kia ora Maguse
08:28 magnuse kia ora Viktor
07:39 gaetan_B hello
07:34 magnuse guten morgen cait
07:02 wahanui salut, alex_a
07:02 alex_a bonjour
06:56 drojf mrnng
06:55 reiveune hello
06:46 Francesca hi
06:16 xarragon_ Is there an easy way to extract the actual data columns from dbix::class::resultset so i can convert it to JSON?
06:00 magnuse things were still pretty fluid when i left
06:00 magnuse there was talk of having the patron db outside koha, but i don't know what came of that
05:59 magnuse yeah
05:59 magnuse yeah, i don't know much more than what that blogpost says
05:59 dcook So circ and a patron database
05:59 magnuse ...of physical stuff
05:59 dcook Yeah
05:59 dcook I guess they'd need osmething for circ
05:59 magnuse and koha will mostly be used for circulation
05:59 dcook I think I was reading http://digital.deichman.no/blog/2014/06/19/oslo-public-library-chooses-rdf-linked-data-as-core-metadata-format/
05:59 dcook Mmm
05:59 magnuse but their plan is to do cataloguing in rdf, then dumb the rdf down to marc so that koha has something to chew on
05:58 magnuse they are not using koha in production yet
05:58 dcook That they have a different system which uses RDF?
05:58 dcook I read somewhere that they aren't using Koha for anything catalogue related now?
05:58 magnuse shoot!
05:57 dcook Question for you about Oslo public library!
05:57 dcook yo magnuse
05:57 * magnuse waves
05:56 dcook Ah right... because the cookie
05:51 dcook That's... interesting
05:50 dcook Delete everything from local storage and EDS still thinks I have 1 item in my cart...
05:50 dcook Well that was interesting...
04:43 dcook Yeah I should stop distracting you
04:43 dcook :p
04:43 dcook so on?
04:43 eythian on
04:43 eythian I should go so
04:42 eythian it is
04:42 dcook Isn't it past 5 for you, eythian? :p
04:42 eythian oh could be
04:42 * eythian waits a minute
04:42 dcook I thought kivilahtio was involved with a Finnish library?
04:42 dcook Wait a minute..
04:42 eythian oh, or kivilahtio I think is involved
04:42 dcook Ah true that
04:42 eythian magnuse would be the one to ask probably.
04:41 dcook I suppose rangi might know this but I think Oslo Public Library aren't using Koha for anything catalogue related now?
04:41 dcook That reminds me..
04:41 dcook For all the grief we heap on MARC, it's stood up pretty well as long as it has
04:41 dcook I imagine it must be difficult to write standards...
04:31 eythian NTFS represents file metadata as utf16, I'm pretty sure.
04:31 dcook Actually the Java thing sounds familiar
04:31 dcook neato
04:31 dcook Huh..
04:30 eythian also java, I think
04:30 eythian winders
04:30 dcook I wonder what uses it. Surely something must?
04:30 dcook I was thinking a bit about utf16...
04:30 dcook Crap... I was going to say I actually know how to use unpack/pack in Perl now, but I always mix them up..
04:29 eythian well if you're using say utf16, then it's definitely not the case
04:29 dcook I had a bit of a UTF8 trial by fire a little while back
04:29 dcook Depends on what you're working with I suppose
04:28 eythian historically character==byte anyway, thought that's not so true any more.
04:27 eythian hell, PDP-6 had a 36-bit word size and is from the same era
04:26 dcook Damned if you do, damned if you don't
04:26 eythian though, I suppose they're still bytes, just not what we think of.
04:25 eythian or, 7-bit-bytes
04:25 dcook And I'm hungry
04:25 dcook Yeah, tis old
04:25 dcook Unless it's Utf8 encoded
04:25 eythian keep in mind, it's from the 60's
04:25 eythian it's probably more correct to be characters
04:24 dcook That page should really say bytes rather than characters...
04:23 eythian yeah, the example section sums it up I guess.
04:23 * dcook wonders if hindsight will turn him into a bad contributor..
04:23 dcook That's actually the only wikipedia article I've ever edited..
04:23 dcook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_2709
04:22 dcook Ahh right
04:22 eythian MARC is just a layer of special on top of that
04:22 dcook I'm not sure whether I'm happy or sad that I recalled that number..
04:22 eythian I think so
04:22 dcook 2709?
04:22 eythian well, the ISOwhatchamacallit format is pretty generic
04:22 dcook MARC
04:22 * dcook shrugs
04:21 dcook Should just be for MARC21..
04:21 dcook MARC21slim.xsd...
04:21 dcook Nope..
04:21 dcook I forget sometimes this is supposed to be quite universal I think
04:21 dcook I wonder how much letters occur in other forms of MARC than MARC21
04:20 dcook Agreed
04:20 eythian rule
04:20 eythian no mixing case is a weird rull to have
04:20 dcook 0ZZ
04:20 dcook 9ZZ
04:19 dcook No mixing case I guess
04:18 dcook datafields = (0([1-9A-Z][0-9A-Z])|0([1-9a-z][0-9a-z]))|(([1-9A-Z][0-9A-Z]{2})|([1-9a-z][0-9a-z]{2}))
04:17 dcook I wonder..
04:17 dcook Totes
04:09 eythian except that $a tends to be the main bit, sometimes.
04:09 eythian yeah, they're just a symbol with very few semantics.
03:58 dcook [\dA-Za-z!"#$%&'()*+,-./:;<=>?{}_^`~\[\]\\]{1}
03:58 dcook Also interesting that subfield codes can be capital letters legally as well...
03:56 dcook Now I'm noticing <record id="Somethingorother"> also looks legal
03:55 dcook So I noticed recently a record that was <record type="Bibliographic"> and I wondered if that was legal and sure enough it is
03:55 dcook http://www.loc.gov/standards/marcxml/schema/MARC21slim.xsd
03:46 * Francesca waves
02:30 dcook Definitely no SQL... but I thought subs weren't either..
02:30 eythian I though there was something about that but I can't remember for sure.
02:30 dcook I thought they weren't although I don't see a rule about that either
02:30 dcook Hmm are subroutines allowed in PL files?
02:26 eythian could be
02:24 dcook Perhaps I'm mad
02:24 dcook I would've sworn there was something before..
02:24 dcook Nothing about smartmatch either..
02:23 dcook Agreed
02:23 eythian there should be a rule
02:22 dcook Nothing about experimental features either..
02:22 dcook No wonder people keep using it..
02:21 dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines
02:21 dcook I thought we had a coding guideline that specified no use of "given/when"...
02:21 dcook wth...
02:05 dcook Well Koha patches at least
02:04 dcook 4 years of Koha at that point
02:04 dcook March 16 that is..
02:04 dcook That's right around bub's due date
02:03 dcook March 16 2012 David Cook becomes the 180th developer to have a patch pushed
02:03 dcook With 2.3.0 and 3.0.0 being all over
02:02 dcook Changed between 3.8 and 3.10
02:02 dcook Looks like releases were April/October and are now May/November?
02:01 dcook Ahh neato
02:00 wizzyrea there was something about that, I can't remember what it was.
02:00 wizzyrea <docdir>/usr/share/doc/koha-common</docdir>
01:59 dcook Hmm I'm on master but I must be in the wrong place..
01:59 dcook koha conf directive?
01:59 wizzyrea i think.
01:59 wizzyrea also you have to have a koha conf directive that you don't get on upgrade
01:58 * dcook bets that he's on the wrong branch
01:58 dcook Or am I on the wrong branch
01:58 dcook Nothing since January 2014
01:58 dcook Hmm... is the about.pl timeline way off or is it just me?
01:56 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot feature release
01:56 wizzyrea forget feature release
01:56 dcook I thought the release was usually in November?
01:56 wizzyrea feature release is <reply> feature releases are usually in May and October.
01:56 wizzyrea it's may and october
01:55 dcook Ahh
01:55 wizzyrea someone would need to add it to the calendar
01:55 wahanui okay, eythian.
01:55 eythian no wahanui, release is http://koha-community.org/calendar/
01:55 dcook That's only the bug fix releases though, yeah?
01:55 wahanui release is probably the 22nd nz time every month
01:55 eythian wahanui: release
01:54 wizzyrea release is http://koha-community.org/calendar/
01:54 dcook I guess I may have provided info about Zebra related things...
01:54 dcook :S
01:54 dcook Huh... my name is in an old newsletter about ElasticSearch
01:53 dcook Errr... so all the date info
01:53 dcook Freeze dates, release dates, etc
01:53 dcook All the info for the next Koha release
01:53 wizzyrea for*
01:53 wizzyrea what information are you hoping?
01:53 eythian well, research the answer and add it. It's wikihanui for a reason.
01:51 dcook Got folks playing with the bots but no useful info :p
01:51 dcook 3.22?
01:51 dcook hmm
01:51 wahanui hmmm... release is the 22nd nz time every month
01:51 dcook release?
01:51 dcook freeze?
01:47 wizzyrea those were all silly answers.
01:47 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot which
01:47 wizzyrea forget which
01:45 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #319 added.
01:45 wizzyrea @quote add eythian: the only consistency in javascript is the inconsistency
01:41 * dcook did hit his head last night on the bus..
01:41 dcook But then I started wondering if I hit my head recently..
01:41 dcook I was thinking of saying that I don't even mind fixing all the Javascript problems in IE
01:40 dcook I think that's probably it
01:40 eythian Stolkholm Syndome will do that
01:40 dcook I've actually started to not mind it too much over the past couple of years
01:40 dcook :p
01:39 eythian the only consistency in javascript is the inconsistency
01:38 dcook https://api.jquery.com/nth-child-selector/
01:38 dcook O_O
01:38 dcook So jQuery sometimes uses 1 as a base, and sometimes uses 0 as a base
01:38 dcook CSS is 1-based
01:37 dcook Mmm
01:37 dcook Bad dcook
01:37 dcook Actually, I'm probably thinking jQuery rather than Javascript
01:36 dcook Ah I'm too slow off the mark :p
01:35 dcook I want to say some things in Javascript do too... but not all..
01:35 dcook Xpath also uses 1-based indexing I believe
01:34 eythian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_programming_languages_(array)#Array%5Fsystem%5Fcross-reference%5Flist <-- a more complete list
01:34 cdickinson I'm not allowed to touch that
01:33 wahanui cdickinson: which =is= why it is strange that it BROKE... after upgrading like that.|not allowed in MARC.|quite horrible|irritating in its own way|fairly old, but not that old
01:33 cdickinson literal which
01:33 cdickinson thank you wahanui for chiming in
01:33 wahanui okay, cdickinson.
01:33 cdickinson which is also fairly old, but not that old
01:33 cdickinson dunno, personally I like programming in C
01:32 eythian oh, also Fortran, which predates your favourite language by a couple of years I expect :)
01:31 eythian also the perl $[ variable, but using that is a sin
01:31 eythian *lua
01:31 eythian also lia
01:31 * eythian points to pascal
01:31 cdickinson but whoever did is not a programmer and should be ashamed of themselves
01:30 cdickinson I don't know who's idea it was to make MySQL's SUBSTRING() indexing start from 1
01:30 cdickinson I don'
01:24 eythian hehe
01:23 dcook relevant to my last comment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlSwbHgixN4&feature=youtu.be&t=56
01:22 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
01:22 eythian @later tell rangi http://wtkr.com/2015/08/25/these-auto-tuned-cows-sound-better-than-___________/
01:21 dcook I don't want to click the link but I kind of do
01:20 eythian http://wtkr.com/2015/08/25/these-auto-tuned-cows-sound-better-than-___________/ <-- here you go then
01:19 dcook hehe
01:19 eythian important old news everyone!
01:19 dcook That's old news
01:19 dcook Psssh
01:19 eythian important news everyone: http://www.cfmradio.co.uk/showbiz/the-buzz/meet-the-worlds-first-ned-flanders-themed-metal-band-okily-dokily/
01:18 dcook Well, depends on how clever it's trying to be I suppose :p
01:17 eythian you do it for each line, otherwise it presumes that it's not in the block because that would make sense :)
01:17 dcook Ok. There we go. I might have been crossing the brain streams
01:17 wahanui botslap is ow!
01:17 eythian wahanui: botslap
01:17 dcook No, I was just doing it for the first. Maybe I was thinking of our local wiki...
01:17 wahanui eythian: what?
01:17 eythian wahanui: botslap
01:16 eythian eh
01:16 eythian wtf?
01:16 wahanui okay, eythian.
01:16 eythian wahanui: \wtf is also <reply>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/2010_09wtfbig.jpg
01:16 dcook Interrobang ftw
01:16 wahanui ...but wtf is what the f***...
01:16 eythian wahanui: \wtf is <reply>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/2010_09wtfbig.jpg
01:16 eythian there's no way this doesn't work
01:16 eythian dcook: are you putting a leading space on the following lines too?
01:16 eythian ‽
01:15 wahanui i haven't a clue, eythian
01:15 eythian wahanui: wtf is <reply>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/2010_09wtfbig.jpg
01:15 dcook It'll do the first line but that's it
01:15 dcook Nope, it's definitely not working
01:14 dcook I've fixed it with the editor but I'll try again :p
01:14 dcook I generally am as well, despite my patches :p
01:14 dcook hehe
01:14 * eythian is morally opposed to rich text editors
01:14 eythian so clearly it can work
01:14 eythian it works near the top of the same page
01:13 eythian ug
01:13 dcook I've got the rich editor going now and that's much better
01:13 dcook It wasn't working right
01:13 eythian and put a leading space to make it a block
01:13 eythian just put lines on lines, like they're supposed to be
01:13 eythian Z> f Host-item,wrdl="Harry Potter"<br>Sent searchRequest.<br>Received SearchResponse.<br>
01:13 dcook I guess so, eh?
01:13 eythian stop doing it weird
01:13 eythian you're doing it weird
01:12 dcook Why don't mine do that..
01:12 dcook Whoa... code blocks that actually work
01:12 dcook Probably needs re-phrasing as well
01:11 dcook Yeah, it needs some work :/
01:11 eythian though, I'm going to complain about your lack of using styling to indicate different parts of text.
01:10 eythian good!
01:10 * dcook is slowly taking over http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra
01:08 dcook hehe
01:08 eythian I made one of those: http://ur1.ca/1a1
01:06 dcook Sometimes I think I should make a "Fun with Zebra" blog...
00:44 dcook I suppose a diagnostic is better than 0 and is usually shown as 0 in Koha anyway..
00:43 dcook That should be in quotes..
00:43 dcook Specifies whether un-indexed fields should be ignored. A zero value (default) throws a diagnostic when an un-indexed field is specified. A non-zero value makes it return 0 hits.
00:43 dcook Hello..
00:06 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
00:06 dcook @later tell barton see bug 14861 with my response. I think it's a local Bywater problem.
00:01 dcook barton: Are you still around?