Time  Nick         Message
22:48 Francesca    sup
22:48 wizzyrea     hallo
22:47 Francesca    hey
21:56 eythian      hi
21:27 wizzyrea     hi
21:27 * cait       waves at wizzyrea
21:27 cait         ah, that explains
21:26 nitz0        cait : I needed to configure spanish language in firefox language preferences.
21:11 wizzyrea     hi
19:32 cait         hi tcohen
19:32 tcohen       hi cait
19:16 Irene        Hello! I have installed koha to a Local area networked computer. I was wondering how I can configure it to be accessible through my website
19:03 chris_n      liw: LOL... my thoughts exactly
18:57 liw          eat or eat not, there is no delete
18:56 nitz0        I be back, I am going to try.
18:55 cait         didyou try deletingthecookies?
18:55 nitz0        I tried with different users in the same computer and all opens it using english.
18:54 cait         so i wonder why it would only happen on one computer hm.
18:54 cait         and also stores the user's preference in the cookie
18:54 nitz0        uhm, lets see..
18:54 cait         the language settings for the preferred languages in the browser
18:53 cait         normally it detects from the browser first
18:53 nitz0        hi cait.
18:53 nitz0        I tried using lynx and the page opens using english.
18:53 cait         have you tried deleting cookies?
18:52 cait         hm strange
18:35 nitz0        Hi, I am having a weird issue with language: I installed es-ES (Koha 3.20). Then I allow users to change it but en-EN is disabled in L18N/L10N config. The issue is that I test it from different computers but there is one thata allways charge Koha using english (all firefox navigators).
17:32 wahanui      salut, tcohen
17:32 tcohen       hi
16:47 xarragon_    So even trivial schemas with onlyid/parent seems to trigger 'deep recursion', seemingly > 100 recursions. I must be using builder wrong.
16:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Add a DOM syntax for specifying conditions on indexes
16:42 barton       tcohen -- looks like bug 14217 is at passed QA -- do you still want an additional signoff?
16:30 xarragon_    Going to set it to 'needs signoff'
16:29 huginn       04Bug 14367: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , History for MARC records. Roll back changes on a timeline or per field.
16:29 xarragon_    http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14367
16:28 xarragon_    Anyone interested in that feature? Testing it, giving suggestions for improvement etc? It is filed as a bug complete with patches
16:28 xarragon_    Ok guys.. A while back i completed an implementation of MARC Field history and rollback functionality
16:25 xarragon_    well, it does seem to be common to use fks on them so
16:21 xarragon_    Not sure if it is even advisable to use a fk on that since I do have root nodes with null for parent
16:19 xarragon_    Hmm.. wait. I am being stupid.
16:17 xarragon_    With a foreign key constraint to ensure the parent actually exists.
16:17 xarragon_    It is hierartical data stored as id/parent on rows.
16:17 xarragon_    But I only have 4 values, an adjacency list.
16:17 xarragon_    On line 118 TestBuilder::build calls $self->build for foreign keys..
16:15 xarragon_    Yes, I set it to either undef or the primary key of another, existing element.
16:11 Joubu        have to go, see you tomorrow
16:11 Joubu        xarragon_: yes, certainly. You can try to define a value for it, the builder won't try to create it (maybe)
16:09 xarragon_    Deep recursion on subroutine "t::lib::TestBuilder::build", is this normal when you have a foreign key constraint to the same table?
15:45 Joubu        Does the idea to switch at some point to this branch?
15:44 Joubu        Is there something we can do using ansible that we cannot with the master branch?
15:44 Joubu        magnuse: Could you explain me the point of the ansible branch in the kohadevbox repo?
15:08 reiveune     bye
14:57 magnuse      :-)
14:56 Joubu        I would say yes, but just to let you give it a try :)
14:54 magnuse      would the koc system be up for ingesting 36000 issues/loans?
14:49 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:49 Joubu        @later tell tcohen never around when I need you!
14:45 cait1        Joubu: in this case, it's bugs in our migration program
14:22 pianohacker  hi magnuse :)
14:22 magnuse      yay!
14:22 wahanui      regexes are AWESOME
14:22 magnuse      pianohacker!
13:55 Joubu        There is no bug in the acq module, we would know it
13:54 cait1        travelling again tomorrow and bug hunting in the acq migration :(
13:54 cait1        Joubu: i see your call for me on the bugs - hope i will get to before monday
13:42 Joubu        paul_p: Salut!
13:40 paul_p       Joubu hello ;-)
13:16 cait1        Joubu: i am tryin to stay optimistic, but it's hard today :)
12:43 Joubu        you can have a lot of pleasure with *100 and /100 in the code
12:43 cait1        ah right
12:43 Joubu        because it's much more complicated this way?
12:42 cait1        i mean... both percentages
12:42 cait1        why do we store discount as 3.000 and gst as 0.07? when it's the same value? :(
12:41 cait1        i totally believe you
12:41 Joubu        cait1: it would have been easier with the tax rewrite ;)
12:40 * magnuse    whips the data into shape anyway
12:27 cait1        acq data migration
12:27 * magnuse    sends cookies
12:26 * magnuse    feels sorry for cait
12:23 cait1        trying to make sense of all the price and tax stuff in acq right now
12:23 cait1        *grumps along*
12:18 magnuse      librarytech--
12:12 magnuse      ah migrations! never a boring day
12:06 cait1        not that bad yet i think
12:06 cait1        heh
12:05 Viktor       As long as it's not the clone wars...
12:03 magnuse      yay
12:03 wahanui      druthb is an amazing person
12:03 magnuse      druthb!
12:02 cait1        hm seems today is the day of clones
12:01 Viktor       Hi cait1
11:59 cait1        hi Viktor
11:50 magnuse      happy equinox, #koha!
11:23 cait1        Joubu++
11:16 cait1        now i missed andreas
11:16 cait1        oh
11:07 andreashm    hej magnuse
11:07 magnuse      kia ora andreashm
10:53 huginn       cait1: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 12.2°C (12:53 PM CEST on September 23, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
10:53 cait1        @wunder Konstanz
10:43 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on September 23, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
10:43 magnuse      @wunder boo
10:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, amitddng135, Passed QA , Send membership expiry reminder notices
10:34 cait1        bug 6810
10:05 Amit_Gupta   bug @6810
09:44 cdickinson   vidya_ / vidya: check your MySQL database details in koha-conf.xml are correct
09:42 vidya_       How to slove this error? Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 793. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 89. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 23. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 23.
09:35 vidya        I am getting following error Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 793. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 89. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 23. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 23.
09:34 huginn       cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 10.5°C (9:30 PM NZST on September 23, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
09:34 cdickinson   @wunder lower hutt
09:34 Francesca    maybe it'll be nice tomorrow?
09:34 Francesca    ohh look its actually warming up
09:33 cdickinson   lol
09:33 * Francesca  should have seen that coming
09:33 huginn       Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (9:00 PM NZST on September 23, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
09:33 cdickinphone No
09:33 cdickinson   yes
09:33 Francesca    @wunder wlg
09:33 Francesca    are you just going to contradict yourself everytime?
09:32 Francesca    hahaha
09:32 cdickinson   curse
09:32 cdickinphone Art
09:32 Francesca    is cloning a curse or an artform
09:32 cdickinphone But the same person
09:32 Francesca    hmmm cdickinson you tell me
09:32 cait1        the art... or the curse? :)
09:32 cdickinson   they're not quite the same
09:31 Francesca    cdickinson /cdickinphone has learnt the art of cloning as well
08:50 cait1        maybe this cloning needs some more testing... and QA!
08:50 cait1        it gets scary
08:46 magnuse      oh noes, we lost the last viktor too!
08:25 magnuse      hiya Amit_Gupta
08:25 Francesca    cloning would be so useful for uni
08:23 Amit_Gupta   hi magnuse
08:23 magnuse      might be able to improve that over time, though
08:23 magnuse      yeah...
08:22 cait1        there had to be a catch
08:22 cait1        too bad
08:22 magnuse      so maybe he can clone himself, but the clones are short lived
08:22 magnuse      looks like one of them evaporated
08:21 cait1        magnuse: hm is one of the Viktors alive?
08:12 * Francesca  would like to clone herself too
08:12 Francesca    hahaha
08:06 * magnuse    too
08:05 * cait1      wnats to be his pupil then and learn how to do that
08:05 magnuse      ooh, has Viktor / viktorsarge_ managed to clone himself?
08:03 * magnuse    waves again
08:02 Francesca    different nickname than usual today?
08:01 * cait1      waves at Francesca
08:00 * Francesca  waves at cait1
07:55 cait1        morning #koha
07:07 wahanui      kia ora, Joubu
07:07 Joubu        hello
07:04 magnuse      bonjour france!
06:46 fridolin     hie there
06:44 wahanui      privet, reiveune
06:44 reiveune     hello
06:43 wahanui      hey, alex_a
06:43 alex_a       bonjour
06:09 * magnuse    waves
05:28 Amit_Gupta   hi all
04:18 wizzyrea     good luck :)
04:18 bwagman      will do!thanks again! have a great night! i will go get my learn on!
04:18 wizzyrea     then install koha on it
04:18 wizzyrea     would be to find a debian image
04:18 wizzyrea     what I would probably do
04:18 wizzyrea     for funsies.
04:17 wizzyrea     it's alright. You could practice with an empty VM :)
04:17 bwagman      and i did not have a spare server
04:17 bwagman      ok no i understand. I just dont know enough about debian to install it on a physical comp. Im not good with command line
04:17 wizzyrea     (and ^ that)
04:17 eythian      and for dev rather than production
04:16 wizzyrea     and that's kind of a project outside of Koha
04:16 wizzyrea     except kohadevbox
04:16 wizzyrea     Yeah, we don't really support VM's
04:16 bwagman      ok cool. yeah i searched VM on there and it brought the outdated 2012 stuff up so i wandered away
04:16 wizzyrea     </end schoolmarm advice>
04:15 wizzyrea     I wouldn't use those instructions. Always go to koha-community.org sites because we have the most recent everything.
04:15 wizzyrea     BUT
04:14 wizzyrea     from the (pretty literally) 10 seconds I spent looking at them
04:14 wizzyrea     those instructions aren't too much different from the ones on the wiki
04:14 bwagman      thanks for the link.... looks like i have a lot of "light" reading in my near future
04:14 bwagman      good point. i dont know much yet on koha. Ill figure out how to update it eventually (koha)
04:13 wizzyrea     koha on debian is <reply> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian
04:13 wahanui      wizzyrea: I forgot koha on debian
04:13 wizzyrea     forget koha on debian
04:13 wahanui      okay, eythian.
04:13 eythian      no wahanui, installation is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
04:13 wizzyrea     this actually
04:13 wizzyrea     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian
04:13 wizzyrea     ^ these are really the only instructions you want to use
04:13 wahanui      koha on debian is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze
04:13 wizzyrea     koha on debian
04:12 wizzyrea     bah
04:12 wahanui      installation is, like, running a modified 3.6.x
04:12 wizzyrea     installation?
04:12 wizzyrea     install instructions?
04:12 bwagman      That link i gave explaines how to install from scrach if you wanted to on a vurtual machine
04:11 eythian      bwagman: well, it's more a function of how the Koha image is built.
04:11 wizzyrea     probably a package but... who knows
04:11 bwagman      You would just act as if its a physical machine your working with. Yes you can update it.
04:11 wizzyrea     yeah good point, idk
04:11 eythian      wizzyrea: the question is, how is Koha installed within the image?
04:10 eythian      bwagman: I was thinking Koha, but also the OS.
04:10 wizzyrea     probably - wouldn't you just update it, then take an image at the update point?
04:10 huginn       bwagman: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
04:10 bwagman      @eythain what do you mean update? update the OS or the Koha?
04:10 wizzyrea     :)
04:10 bwagman      Thanks. I will definatly find someone to help with that when I get there but not for a few years lol
04:09 * eythian    wonders if the vbox images can be updated from within them.
04:09 wizzyrea     but. IF you wanted to actually connect it to the web on a real server, you'd want a static IP from your ISP, and probably a domain name to make things easy.
04:09 bwagman      i converted it to a Hyper-v. But if i do, i will move it to a physical.
04:08 eythian      what wizzyrea said
04:08 eythian      but also, ...
04:08 eythian      you will need a static IP pointing to the server that it's running on.
04:08 wizzyrea     yeah, don't do that with a virtualbox
04:08 eythian      I wouldn't recommend hooking it up to something like that, that'd be quite complicated.
04:07 bwagman      or can i link it somehow to my godaddy basic hosting?
04:07 bwagman      how do i get the opac on the web? do i need a public Static IP from my ISP?
04:07 wizzyrea     shoot
04:06 bwagman      thanks again! ohy maybe one more quick question
04:06 eythian      ah cool
04:06 bwagman      I will not. I have to learn how to change the debian passwords. I think his manual mentions that
04:06 wizzyrea     yep nw, good luck on your Koha adventure
04:05 bwagman      thanks again you guys were awesome. i was pounding my head on the desk for the past week
04:05 eythian      please don't put that into production with its default passwords though.
04:05 bwagman      yup marc21. i will be sure to update the z39 searchs for that
04:03 bwagman      this guy -- http://www.joshhertel.com/home/newkohaimage
04:01 bwagman      um its the new version on debian jessie. i need to find my paperwork i printed to say the source
04:01 wizzyrea     kohadevbox or something else?
04:01 eythian      probably MARC21 then, yeah
04:01 eythian      ah
04:01 bwagman      it was a preconfigured virtual machine I got from the web
04:00 wizzyrea     oh you said it was a virtualbox. It will probably be MARC21
04:00 eythian      also that :)
04:00 wizzyrea     and what did you tell it when you installed Koha ^.^
04:00 eythian      bwagman: where is your library based?
03:59 bwagman      how do i know what my library is set up for?
03:59 wizzyrea     ^ best book for testing z-targets
03:59 wizzyrea     Harry Potter is <reply> 9780545010221
03:59 wizzyrea     ^^^^^
03:59 eythian      you really don't want to import unimarc into a marc21 library. Madness _will_ ensue.
03:58 bwagman      i will go through and change them all to marc21
03:58 * wizzyrea   nods
03:57 eythian      that's about right
03:57 wahanui      i think marc-8 is let's take rule 123, combine it with incompetence, stupidity, and malice, and turn that into something we'll call a 'character set' that really isn't.
03:57 eythian      wahanui: marc-8
03:57 wizzyrea     maybe.
03:57 bwagman      well at least i know that it does work
03:57 wizzyrea     library of congress should come up with something for them
03:57 eythian      MARC-8 needs to be put down, out of our misery.
03:57 wizzyrea     it can happen :/
03:57 bwagman      maybe my books are just too off the wall
03:55 wizzyrea     yep that seems right
03:55 pastebot     "bwagman" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "harry potter" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/79
03:55 wizzyrea     at least we know it's not connectivity
03:55 wizzyrea     :)
03:54 bwagman      let me try one of mine.
03:53 bwagman      (facepalm)
03:53 bwagman      nvm i puit yours in. i got harry potter
03:53 bwagman      however they are all wrong. maybe i mistyped. ugh. let me add your suggestion
03:52 wizzyrea     you'll probably want to set them all to MARC21/UTF8
03:52 wizzyrea     cool :)
03:51 bwagman      so one of the bboks i found before i added your source pulled up a ton
03:51 bwagman      oooh wait
03:51 wizzyrea     if you can't, you probably have some kind of problem with connectivity
03:51 bwagman      ok one sec i just saw your source to add
03:50 wizzyrea     if you can find stuff in LOC, then something is wrong with your definitions
03:50 wizzyrea     LOC is the best to test with, as far as connectivity goes.
03:50 wizzyrea     I didn't get anything at all out of the penn one
03:50 bwagman      checking them know
03:50 wizzyrea     and with that ISBN I gave you
03:50 bwagman      i found two regular books in storage
03:49 bwagman      i didnt even get the penn one to pull that up and im searching all of them,
03:49 wizzyrea     try adding lx2.loc.gov port 210 db LCDB USMARC UTF8
03:47 wizzyrea     I don't get anything out of, at least, the access penn one
03:47 wizzyrea     sok
03:46 bwagman      let me see if i can find another. im running through storage and seem to only be finding textbooks lol sorry be right back
03:46 wizzyrea     9780545010221
03:45 wizzyrea     That doesn't seem like the best test book
03:43 bwagman      9780077341329
03:42 wizzyrea     what's the isbn you are trying with
03:41 wizzyrea     that's alright
03:39 bwagman      i guess i could have formatted that better. first time using the paste thingy
03:38 pastebot     "bwagman" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "z39.50 sources" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/78
03:36 wizzyrea     yep, whatever you put in for them: hostname, port, database, syntax, encoding, record type
03:36 bwagman      sources? the z39.50 stuff? sorry i am not a librarian
03:36 wizzyrea     ah it's what we do
03:35 wizzyrea     you can paste them at paste.koha-community.org
03:35 bwagman      thank you for helping me by the way
03:35 wizzyrea     what sources are you using?
03:35 bwagman      nope no dice. its still coming back no results
03:33 wizzyrea     if that was the problem, yeah :)
03:32 bwagman      thanks i was a little confused lol. Ive changed about 6 of my searches to MARC21 and will try a search now. Im sure at least one of those 6 will pick something up. one sec
03:31 wizzyrea     we really ought to default that to blank.
03:29 wizzyrea     he/she/it.
03:29 wizzyrea     (he's a bot)
03:29 wizzyrea     sh wahanui.
03:29 wahanui      wizzyrea: change =is= done|to make it easier translatable - i think maybe not try tomake it do everything now, but make afirst step?
03:29 wizzyrea     literal change
03:29 wahanui      wizzyrea: that doesn't look right
03:29 wizzyrea     change the rest :)
03:29 bwagman      ok one sec and ill try a search too
03:29 wizzyrea     and if it does
03:29 wahanui      wizzyrea: that doesn't look right
03:29 wizzyrea     or change one, and see if that one works
03:28 wahanui      wizzyrea: that doesn't look right
03:28 wizzyrea     change them to marc21
03:28 bwagman      they are all unimarc -- and all utf8 except one which is marc-8
03:26 bwagman      hmmm... let me check
03:26 wizzyrea     Do you have them set to unimarc instead of marc21?
03:20 bwagman      Hi. I am having an issue with a new install. I added a whole bunch of Z39.50 searches because I cannot seem to get any to find ISBN's. I am using a pre-made virtual machine running debian jessie. I am not much of a linux user and I dont know if there may be something set up wrong in the actual install coding or in the web interface. The virtual machine does have access to the internet but you cannot access the Koha instance fr
03:02 huginn       eythian: The operation succeeded.
03:02 eythian      @later tell dcook flight fixed.
02:57 Francesca    looks cool
02:57 Francesca    hahaha
02:57 eythian      (i.e. Hobart)
02:57 eythian      https://2015.osdc.com.au/schedule/presentation/39/
02:56 Francesca    where are you going? travel sounds good right about now
02:56 Francesca    ah
02:56 eythian      my current one is getting dangerously close to expiring and I have travel approaching.
02:56 eythian      I need one sooner than they're coming out
02:56 eythian      no
02:56 Francesca    is it one of those 10 year ones?
02:55 wahanui      well, good news then is that what koha displays is right on the page :)
02:55 Francesca    good news then?
02:53 eythian      that's surprisingly fast
02:53 eythian      wow, that passport I completed the renewal for yesterday shipped today
00:44 ibeardslee   eythian: #ubuntu-nz was also mentioning that
00:05 wizzyrea     kinda glad my thing got postponed, tbh
00:04 eythian      citilink I think
00:04 wizzyrea     good point
00:04 eythian      same host, I think
00:04 wizzyrea     that's ubuntu, I was having trouble with debian - but yeah something is up there.
00:03 wizzyrea     \o/
00:03 eythian      not just you
00:03 eythian      wizzyrea: <vex> is nz.archive.ubuntu.com 404'ing for anyone else
00:01 wizzyrea     since those are the ones that reliably work on windows.
00:01 wizzyrea     I suppose we still have 2.2's hanging out there
00:01 wizzyrea     oldest version ever.
00:01 wizzyrea     yeah, idk.