Time  Nick        Message
00:42 pianohacker good night
00:42 wahanui     I'll be waiting for you to come back, pianohacker.
02:26 Francesca   hey
03:54 eythian     @later tell tcohen sure I can do that.
03:54 huginn`     eythian: The operation succeeded.
06:06 * magnuse   waves
06:09 * Francesca waves baxk
06:09 Francesca   back
06:20 magnuse     mtompset++ for starting the kohacon17 proposals :-)
06:26 marcelr     hi #koha
06:27 Joubu       hello
06:28 marcelr     hi Joubu
06:36 reiveune    hello
06:36 wahanui     niihau, reiveune
06:50 magnuse     @wunder boo
06:50 huginn`     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 17, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
06:56 alex_a      bonjour
07:14 drojf       morning #koha
07:16 fridolin    goomorning there
07:16 drojf       looks like mtompset already opened kohacon 2017 bidding. i thought that was done by a community meeting
07:17 drojf       hi fridolin
07:23 eythian     hi drojf, fridolin, alex_a, magnuse, reiveune, marcelr, Joubu, etc.
07:23 marcelr     hi eythian and others !
07:23 alex_a      hello eythian
07:23 drojf       hi eythian, has been a while
07:23 drojf       hi marcelr
07:24 eythian     t'has
07:24 drojf       been on vacation?
07:24 eythian     yeah, was for a little bit
07:25 Joubu       Hi eythian
07:27 drojf       lucky you :)
07:29 magnuse     hiya eythian, welcome back!
07:45 drojf       don't want to step on anyone's toes, but i do not think a wiki page called "KohaCon17 Proposals" (which we have not 'officially' asked for yet) should have the text "this page was created immediately to reflect the ongoing effort by the Philippines" on it
07:45 drojf       either its a neutral bidding page or it should be moved to something like kohacon17 proposal by the philippines
07:53 drojf       "KohaCon17 Proposals" has been moved to "KohaCon17 Proposal by the Philippines"
08:16 drojf       i updated the redirection and created the page for next meeting http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_General_IRC_meeting
08:22 drojf       is this thing on?
08:22 * drojf     taps
08:51 marcelr     Joubu: bug 14544 became quite large..
08:51 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move the list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves
08:52 Joubu       marcelr: It is large since the beginning :)
08:53 marcelr     i will soon have a try
10:59 * cait      waves
10:59 cait        git training today and tomorrow
11:07 Joubu       git bz apply 10042; git commit --amend -s; git bz attach 10042 HEAD;
11:07 Joubu       that's all, isn't it?
11:09 magnuse     Joubu: it should be :-)
11:11 cait        heh
11:11 cait        we will see
11:12 cait        so far we are still on familiar grounds
11:12 cait        but i learned some things about how git actually stores things
11:12 cait        and differences to non-distributed version control systems
11:22 xarragon_   For new code, is dbix::class the recommended approach.. or are there drawbacks?
11:39 marcelr     back
11:52 Joubu       xarragon_: what kind of patches?
11:52 Joubu       bugfix, new ft, new file?
11:53 Joubu       in which area?
11:53 xarragon_   new feature
11:53 xarragon_   But it might incur an extra query on every page view..
11:54 xarragon_   If dbix::class is not used, I figure all the schema loading might be a heavy hit
11:54 Joubu       Later, it will
11:55 Joubu       you can try and use Koha::Objects
11:55 misilot     is it difficult to customize the hold slip?
11:56 Joubu       xarragon_: see bug 13726, bug 14836, bug 14544, bug 14828, bug 10363
11:56 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13726 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Koha::Acquisition::Bookseller should use Koha::Object
11:56 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14836 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the patron categories related code to Koha::PatronCategories
11:56 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move the list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves
11:56 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14828 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the item types related code to Koha::ItemTypes
11:56 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , There is no package for authorised values.
11:56 Joubu       (this was not an advert)
11:57 Joubu       misilot: /tools/letter.pl?op=add_form&module=reserves&code=HOLD ?
11:59 misilot     Joubu: that doesn't look like the slip that is printed from koha/circ/hold-transfer-slip.pl sorry should have specified better
12:01 Joubu       misilot: tools/letter.pl?op=add_form&module=circulation&code=RESERVESLIP ? :)
12:07 misilot     thanks Joubu that looks to be it :) ... i apparently only think of reserves as course books
12:42 tcohen      morning!
12:43 marcelr     hola tcohen
12:59 fridolin    tcohen: bonjour
12:59 wahanui     hello, fridolin
13:04 tcohen1     hola marcelr fridolin
13:12 marcelr     jajm++
13:29 akafred     me thinks that when POST /cgi-bin/koha/svc/new_bib?items=1 returns 200 when adding the items has failed is kinda ... ouch.
13:39 Joubu       khall: Hi! about bug 11622, did you try to build the debian package?
13:39 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11622 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to pay fees and fines from OPAC via PayPal
14:19 ashimema    I should know this..  but I can't for the life of me find it..
14:19 ashimema    How does 'FU' in the accountlines table actually work.. does it get changed from FU to F at any point?
14:19 ashimema    and if so.. where and when?
14:25 Joubu       ashimema: The answer is in C4::Circulation::_FixOverduesOnReturn
14:25 ashimema    cheers
14:26 Joubu       From the man: FU = Overdue, still acccruing
14:26 ashimema    indeed
14:27 ashimema    perhaps my report is right afterall.. I just couldn't find anywhere that actually updated the FU flag to anything else
14:27 ashimema    was resoritng to grepping the entire codebase.. madess lies that way.
14:27 ashimema    thanks
14:27 Joubu       I don't find another place, so it's there :)
14:28 ashimema    hmm.
14:28 ashimema    need to trace that back..
14:28 ashimema    we have a library who allows one to in effect pay off overdues, then renew the item.. but that doesn't trigger the change from what I can see thus far.
14:35 talljoy     #bywater
14:36 talljoy     oops...i joined without having to!
14:36 talljoy     good morning koha
14:39 xarragon_   With Koha::Objects, is there a neat way to turn a set of rows into a hierarchy? I have a structurually programmed function that takes an array of resultsets, scans their 'parent' field and returns a hash of hashes representing the database rows.
14:39 xarragon_   That structure is encoded as JSON and sent to the jstree editor.
14:41 xarragon_   Could I put something like that into Koha::Pages and create some special accessor function.. like Koha::Pages->all_as_json?
14:45 xarragon_   Or maybe there is some magic way of making dbix::class transform a resultset into a hierarctical dataset rather than just working with it as a flat 2-dimensional table?
14:46 xarragon_   It already resolves foreign keys as links to other objects..
15:12 nitz0       Hi peoplesss
16:19 tmcmahon    I was in here two days ago with keyboard shortcuts not selecting the correct tab.
16:20 tmcmahon    I just created a new (empty) instance of Koha and they work fine.  When I load my data into it, the keys stop working correctly.
16:21 tmcmahon    I'm currently trying it on 3.18.10.000 (Debian 8 package install), but it didn't work on stable either.
16:21 tmcmahon    I have nothing in intranetuserjs and intranetusercss.
16:26 tmcmahon    I can't figure out why they work fine before loading my data and don't after.
16:34 Joubu       tmcmahon: see bug 14829 for a patch
16:34 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14829 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Wrong shortcuts in module "cataloging"
16:35 Joubu       If it's what you describe
16:35 Joubu       have to run, bye #koha
16:35 tmcmahon    Joubu: That's not it, but thanks.
16:36 Joubu       tmcmahon: which tabs are you talking about?
16:37 * cait      waves
16:37 tmcmahon    I'm talking about the same tabs, but this bug is for problems with some tabs on certain pages.  My problem is all tabs on all pages.
16:37 Joubu       tmcmahon: the patch fixes the issue on 3 different modules
16:38 * cait      waves
16:38 cait        oh
16:38 Joubu       circulation, patrons and cataloguing
16:38 cait        i am repeating myself... time to get some food
16:38 Joubu       hi cait :)
16:39 tmcmahon    Joubu: Sorry, I thought that was the same but I saw yesterday.  This one does look different.  I'll take a closer look.  Thanks again.
16:39 cait        hi Joubu :)
16:39 tmcmahon    It still doesn't look my problem, but I'll do some testing on it.
16:40 Joubu       tmcmahon: so you can open a bug report and link it to this one. No need to reinstall once again :)
16:41 tmcmahon    Joubu: This is the bug I looked at yesterday.  It's a different problem.
16:42 Joubu       Yes, I have understood :) Just don't know what is your problem exactly, I just know it's a shortcut problem. So it makes sense to link the 2 reports if you open one
16:42 Joubu       and I really have to go...
16:42 Joubu       bye
16:43 tmcmahon    bye and thanks again.
18:11 liw         aa/win 5
18:45 nitz0       I am having a problem with koha-upgrade-schema. It couldn't find koha-conf.xml
18:45 nitz0       Packet installation
18:46 cait        hm i haven't run that script yet
18:47 cait        normally when in a package installation you should run most of the scripts from the koha shell
18:47 cait        koha shell?
18:48 nitz0       sudo: sin tty presente y no hay programa askpass especificado
18:49 nitz0       sorry
18:49 nitz0       sudo koha-upgrade-schema koha_bibliotec2
18:49 nitz0       Upgrading database schema for koha_bibliotec2
18:49 nitz0       unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 345.
18:49 cait        yes
18:49 cait        hm
18:50 nitz0       It works for 3.18
18:50 cait        it's weird
18:50 wahanui     did you try flushing the cache and deleting wahanui's cookies
18:51 cait        sorry, i don't see why it's not working
18:51 cait        maybe someone else will know
18:53 nitz0       I did this: (1) Installed 3.18 (2) mysqldump 3.18 > file.sql (3) mysql file.sql 3.18DB (4) koha-upgrade-schema (5) koha-rebuild-zebra (6) update to 3.20 (7) mysqldump 3.08 (8) mysql...
18:54 nitz0       (2) mysqldump 3.08 > file.sql
18:56 nitz0       did you understand it?
18:56 misilot     does anyone knoe if there is a way to get the date to remove from the hold shelf onto the reserve notice? Thanks!
19:04 cait        misilot: i think currently there is now way
19:05 cait        koha has no field for that date in the database
19:05 cait        i think i have seen some related bug reports
19:05 misilot     cait: ah ok. there is a date needed by field, but the column comments say that is for the user.
19:05 cait        i think that's something else
19:05 misilot     wasn't sure if with the reports was an easy way to build a string from the date places on shelf + system policy
19:06 misilot     thank you for the information though :)
19:07 cait        i think the needs by is when the user says he doesn't need it after... but i could be wrong
19:07 misilot     yes, that is what it is I believe from reading comments and playing with it
19:31 tcohen      hey
19:31 wnickc      ho
19:33 tcohen      wizzyrea: thanks for pointing me to the error
19:34 tcohen      wnickc: "they're forming in straight line…"
19:35 wnickc      :-)
19:49 tcohen      bye #koha
19:51 wnickc      bye tchonen
20:08 barton      bug 6657
20:08 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6657 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Making 999 visible in framework duplicates 999 entry and affects index
20:08 barton      Joubu++
20:38 mib         Hi all, can you please show me how to have the "creation date" in koha Bugzilla in the report ?
20:38 mib         I see the "change column" but can't find the creation date...
20:45 wizzyrea    top right, "Reported"
20:45 wizzyrea    unless I am misunderstanding what you're after, which is totally possible.
20:46 mib         Example : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?chfield=%5BBug%20creation%5D&chfieldfrom=7d
20:46 mib         How can I get the "creation date"
20:46 mib         But directly in the list
20:46 mib         I dont want to open every ticket to see it.
20:46 wizzyrea    change columns, the button at the bottom
20:46 wahanui     wizzyrea: that doesn't look right
20:47 mib         I try and I input all column and I still dont see the creation date
20:47 wizzyrea    add "opened"
20:47 mib         :-)
20:47 mib         THANKS!!!!
20:48 mib         not sure why I did not see it the first time
20:48 wizzyrea    ah it's ok, we all miss things ASK ME HOW I KNOW :)
20:49 mib         is there also a way to filter by user who "commit" something ?
20:50 mib         Example : I want to see get all ticket where a patch was submitted by someone ?
20:53 barton      hi, the 3.18 documentatoin says that LinkerOptions is still experimental -- is there a bug open to expand this to make it production ready? I didn't see anything explicit in bugzilla.
20:53 wizzyrea    probably not in the list, but maybe you can query
20:53 wizzyrea    http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=LinkerOptions&list_id=141047
20:54 wizzyrea    that's everything that references LinkerOptions
20:54 barton      wizzyrea: yeah I looked at those.
20:55 barton      both tickets mention it in passing, but it's not the focus of either.
20:56 barton      @seen jcamins
20:56 huginn`     barton: jcamins was last seen in #koha 3 days, 22 hours, 32 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: * jcamins waves and heads off for a ballroom social.
21:02 barton      @later tell jcamins http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/administration.html#LinkerOptions : "This feature is experimental and shouldn't be used in a production environment until further expanded upon." <= your name appears in the description -- do you know what the plans are for expansion?
21:02 huginn`     barton: The operation succeeded.
21:51 reiveune    bye
22:02 eythian     hi
22:02 wahanui     hello, eythian
22:05 jcamins     barton|away: there are no plans.
22:19 * Francesca waves