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23:59 BobB hi Francesca, you have company across the ditch :)
23:56 Francesca unless anyone else is hanging around on irc
23:56 Francesca cdickinson and I are the wellington koha today
21:59 nitz0 bye ppl, thx again.
21:33 Brooke catch you guys latah
21:30 Brooke as much as being a Kiwi would be nice, different procedures for yanks :/
21:29 mtj but seriously Brooke, rangi might have some advice for you
21:23 mtj ..and his mc-hammer pants
21:23 * mtj wistfully recalls his yahoo email account
21:21 Brooke they held my account hostage for like a week a couple summers ago over my birthday
21:21 Brooke *eyeroll*
21:20 pianohacker yeah, was talking to a friend, apparently proper SMTP is a paid feature?
21:20 pianohacker kk :)
21:20 Brooke ever try and get Yahoo to do anything?
21:20 Brooke yeah thanks, naught I can do about that. It's happened for years.
21:20 pianohacker also hi :)
21:19 pianohacker Brooke: unrelated; most of your email gets thrown into spam by Gmail (at least for me) because it thinks you're not sending it through yahoo properly
21:18 Brooke okie dokie, anyone else actually sit down and try and get their Nigerian visa yet?
21:16 nitz0 It didn't, thx anyway, problems are sometimes perspective issues...
21:15 mtj no probs, the command really should check that, huh
21:15 Brooke Any Nigerians about?
21:14 nitz0 Guys, sorry, the problem was that I didn't use sudo.
21:14 Brooke o/
21:14 mtj ..if your koha-translate command worked ok
21:13 mtj nitz0: you should have 1000-ish 'es-ES' files, in your Koha dir
21:12 mtj hey cait, nitz0
21:12 cait i thik the package commands require it
21:12 cait hm have you run it with sudo?
21:09 nitz0 And nothing appears into Admin -> I18N/L10N preferences
21:08 nitz0 yes, I used that command
21:08 cait command
21:08 cait the koha-translate comment
21:08 nitz0 perl translate?
21:08 cait also check in the i18n tab of the system preferences if the language shows up there already
21:07 cait have you treid rerunning th ecommand?
21:07 cait hmmm
21:07 nitz0 (difficult to me)
21:07 nitz0 cait: But "Koha directories hierarchy for es-ES must be created first" msg appeared and It was difficult to find googling the reason.
21:06 cait what happened?
21:06 cait ok
21:05 nitz0 cait: So, minutes ago I tried to koha-translate -i es-ES
21:05 cait if you have packages
21:05 cait ah yeah it is
21:05 nitz0 cait: not really. I installed koha 3.18 (packet) in ubuntu two days ago. I didnt's specify any language, I did a default installation. While I was reading install docs, I read that changing language is easy.
20:54 cait you are lookin gfor somoene who speaks spanish?
20:53 cait nitz0: not at the moment i think
20:48 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
20:48 Francesca good morning
20:46 nitz0 alguno con koha en espanhol?
20:40 ken anyone pls
20:40 ken i need help
20:39 ken hi
20:35 pianohacker hi cait
20:35 cait hi pianohacker :)
20:34 * nitz0 back to the sources...
20:23 pianohacker hello?
20:23 wahanui no idea, pianohacker
20:23 pianohacker wahanui: hello?
20:23 pianohacker but hi! :)
20:22 pianohacker eben: wahanui's a chatbot
20:22 eben how you doing
20:21 wahanui hi, eben
20:21 eben hello
20:14 pianohacker *sigh* you can prevent the mysql client from exiting completely on ctrl-c by passing --sigint-ignore... but that also prevents killing queries with ctrl-c
18:22 cdickinson brr
18:22 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 6.8Â°C (6:20 AM NZST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 1.0Â°C. Windchill: 4.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
18:22 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
15:52 barton looks like 'save' will save the history, suitable for replaying using 'source'. Nice.
15:52 reiveune bye
15:51 barton going to have to try that...
15:51 mtj ..and yeah... not many results via google huh :/
15:50 mtj ive never used it, myself... but it looks promising
15:50 mtj Opens a lexical filehandle and stacks it on @cmdfhs; DB::readline will pick it up.
15:50 mtj source - read commands from a file.
15:49 mtj http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/perl-5.22.0/lib/perl5db.pl#source_-_read_commands_from_a_file.
15:49 mtj hmm, perhaps this barton
15:43 barton totally different subject -- does anyone here have perl debugger experience? I've always wondered how to script a series of debugger steps, e.g. if I want to replay a bug that's deeply nested in the call stack. I've never seen good documentation on how to do that...
15:40 barton noice.
15:40 mtj will run the command, and set $HOME
15:39 mtj ...even better, you can combine the 2 args
15:39 mtj $ koha-shell --login --command 'pwd' mykoha
15:37 mtj so... use --login, problem fixed :0)
15:36 mtj ah yes, there is a diff. with/without the --login arg
15:35 barton koha-shell++
15:35 barton mtj++
15:34 drojf uh stormy evening
15:34 drojf hi barton
15:34 barton ah. I didn't know that.
15:34 barton I do a fair amount of command line work inside the koha-shell environment.
15:34 mtj --login seems to default to $HOME already?
15:33 barton with --login, or simply without --command ...
15:33 mtj barton: hmm, whats 'interactively'? you mean with --login ?
15:32 barton good $(TIME_OF_DAY) drojf :-)
15:32 drojf evening
15:31 barton mtj: yeah... I really want to be in the instance's $HOME when I launch it interactively...
15:30 mtj i think your idea would be a handy arg for koha-shell tho :)
15:30 mtj etc..
15:30 mtj $ koha-shell --command 'cd ~/ ; pwd ' mykoha
15:29 mtj barton: that works-ish.. ^
15:29 mtj $ koha-shell --command 'cd ~/ ; ls' mykoha
15:25 nitz0 buenas!
15:20 talljoy morning #koha
15:03 barton question about koha-shell -- is there a way to get it to launch in the instance's $HOME directory, rather than staying in the directory that it was launched in? A-la 'su - user' rather than 'su user'.
13:44 hkh THANK YOU for assistance - good bye for today
13:34 mveron hkh: I changed the module on some bugs to "label/patron card printing"
13:30 hkh Hallo Katrin, I will read describecomponents.
13:30 hkh Hallo Marc, I think you gave me a good hint! After searching for "patron card creator" I should have looked at the assigned component and search again for "label/patron" to get a complete list including 14739. When searching for "patron card creator" there are quite a few bug reports with comp Tools, Architec, Patrons, Acquisit, I18N/L10.
13:30 cait hi tcohen :)
13:26 tcohen hi cait
13:12 cait hkh: there is a bit of description here: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/describecomponents.cgi?product=Koha
13:10 mveron hkh: If you find a bug related to patron card creation that has not Label/Patron card printing as module please change the module as appropriate.
13:08 hkh would it be helpful e.g. to add a bug for component tools with a description "if your bug is about tool patron card creator - please use component label/patroncard printing"? This might help to assign unambigously a component
13:01 cait the bug wranglers and qa people try to identify duplicates, I think ti's often a matter of knowing thereis another report right now
13:01 cait hkh:...
13:00 cait khk you can use the modules to limit search a bit but it's often a bit tricky
12:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14739 normal, P3, ---, nick, Signed Off , Add several patrons to a new batch will create a new batch per patron added
12:58 hkh ...there are two applicable components: Tools (where the patron card creator is found) and Label/patron card printing (where bug 14739 is assigned) and the latter is not matching "patron card creator".
12:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14800 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Adding Patrons to new Batch increments batchno instead of adding patron to list
12:58 hkh I recently added a bug 14800 in bugzilla which was correctly identified as a duplicate to 14739 by Nick Clemens. Prior to adding this bug I did search for a similar bug using "patron card creator" as a search term which showed me several bugs but 14739 was not among these. So I was sure this is a new bug... Is there a way to avoid missing a relevant bug? The problem here seems to be that...
12:58 hkh Hallo,
12:37 nengard morning all
12:35 * magnuse magnus_afk
12:26 * cait waves back :)
12:23 * mveron waves to cait
12:22 mveron hi drojf :-)
12:22 drojf hi mveron :)
12:19 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 20.0Â°C (2:00 PM CEST on September 10, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 7.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
12:19 mveron @wunder Allschwil
12:19 mveron Hi #koha
12:14 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:14 tcohen @later tell pianohacker you should attach a patch with those changes, so people can test your patchset. But chances are that the hash doesn't match with current master by the time it gets pushed, so there might be a need to re-do it
12:13 grharry ;-)
12:12 tcohen morning
12:12 grharry that is connected with the field
12:11 grharry like yaz-icov
12:11 grharry and the util to convert them
12:11 grharry with all the crazy bib charsets
12:11 grharry I would suggest adding a master table
12:10 magnuse oh, they are ignored?
12:10 magnuse it could/should probably be an authorized value, to make adding encodings easier
12:10 grharry The contents of z3950servers Field "encoding" is totally ignored if values are not 'utf8' 'EUC-KR' 'ISO_5426' 'ISO_6937' 'ISO_8859-1' 'MARC-8'
12:09 magnuse yup, i did a patch some ages ago to add to that hard coded list
12:07 grharry at about 170 line
12:07 grharry manguse: Allow me tell you this. The remote z3950 servers charset is HARD-CODED into "./koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/z3950servers.tt" file
12:05 grharry :)
12:04 magnuse grharry: ah, i was thinking about using the terminal to login to mysql, but i'll not lead you astray if you are not used to working with that
11:49 grharry manguse: what is the util that will do that "altering z3950servers.encoding from the command line? " ???? =-O
11:39 magnuse i don't think koha does much with those ancoding names, except pass them to something else that does the conversion
11:39 magnuse grharry: have you tried altering z3950servers.encoding from the command line?
11:34 grharry drojf: FUNDS ARE LOW ... ALL OVER, my man !!
11:34 drojf grharry: give them a hand and help converting it to 2015 ;)
11:33 magnuse or just alter the contents of the z3950servers.encoding on the command line, perhaps...
11:33 grharry drojf: I agree with you!!! :) On the other hand we would like to use and benefit from their data !!!
11:32 magnuse you can choose between 6 differet encodings when you set up a new z39.50 target, though. and it should not be too hard to add more
11:31 * magnuse agrees with drojf
11:26 drojf i think people using latin1 or greek standards from 1984 should consider moving to the 21st century and switch to utf-8 already
11:25 grharry I think most ILS's inluding KOHA ingnore the fact that also some other charsets EXIST out there!! UTF8 and LATIN1 are not alone in this universe !:-/
11:21 drojf grharry: maybe ask on the mailing list to reach more people, it's pretty quiet here at the moment
11:20 grharry drojf: Yes, this could be an option! Provided all others are OUT!
11:17 drojf you're welcome to do a koha integration too ;)
11:13 grharry :P
11:11 drojf i think they have a hosted service to do what you want, too
11:10 drojf (just read the website for a second, may be wrong)
11:10 drojf grharry: if metaproxy does what you want, you probably have to set it up yourself for the servers you want to use and then put your metaproxy in koha (if i understand it correctly)
11:08 wahanui The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/
11:08 grharry anybody ??
11:08 grharry I am searching for a combination of yazproxy and metaproxy from indexdata !!!
11:07 grharry hm
11:06 drojf grharry: but i am no expert on z39.50 stuff, others may know better
11:06 magnuse drojf: yay
11:06 drojf grharry: i don't think what you are asking is possible at the moment
11:03 drojf goodness, we have a lot of people voting for kohacon 2016
11:00 grharry Also is it possible to add a proxy on a remote z3950 Servers config ??
10:58 grharry I have a nice problem here! I must add a bunch of z3950 Providers that have all kinds of different charsets( i.e. ISO5428:1984 ) in their data is there a way to convert these into UTF8 in a koha module ?
10:55 grharry Hi KOHA!!
10:04 cait andreashm++
10:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
10:01 andreashm woho, managed to apply bug 10662! Just my git repu that was out of shape...
09:52 andreashm If my work would pay for a trip to the Philippines, is another question though.
09:50 andreashm Greece would be easier, more ppl from us could go... but I'd like to see Manila.
09:49 cait ok, that's a godo reason :)
09:49 cait good to spend time with :)
09:49 andreashm cait: no, I havent. mostly because I can't make my mind up. =)
09:49 cait andreashm: did you vote for kohacon yet?
09:49 andreashm cait: doing a git fetch origin right now. wanted to be proper. but its going slooooooow.
09:48 cait but if it remains sha1... then you can set to 'doesn'tapply'
09:48 cait andreashm: one thing to check maybe is if your repo is current
09:24 andreashm thanks magnuse
09:24 andreashm alright, hope so.
09:24 * magnuse magnus_afk
09:24 magnuse that sounds more like a regular git problem than anything related to kohadevbox, i thnk
09:19 andreashm doing a git fetch origin, to see if that helps
09:18 andreashm when trying to apply
09:18 andreashm magnuse: fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql).
09:17 magnuse where do you get the warning about kohastructure?
09:17 magnuse andreashm: on my way to lunch
09:10 andreashm magnuse: around?
09:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox
09:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
09:01 andreashm humm, can't apply bug 10662. I get a warning about kohastructure.I would assume that this has something to do with updatedatase.pl? Is there something I need to do with kohadevbox, since bug 13068? Magnuse?
08:42 * andreashm waves
08:34 gaetan_B hello
08:31 MKuhn Well, at least I TRIED...
08:31 drojf got to go, later #koha
08:30 drojf you are really early for next meeting
08:30 MKuhn Time is relative...
08:29 drojf yes. so you are too early and too late, kind of :)
08:29 MKuhn Good question... I'm too late in fact... General IRC meeting was yesterday...
08:28 drojf for what?
08:28 MKuhn At least today I'm too eraly but not too late :-)
08:27 drojf MKuhn: yes
08:27 MKuhn Seems like 10 UTC is 12 CEST...
08:14 magnuse woohoo :-)
08:10 drojf lucky you, it's still free to take ;)
08:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10198 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add the ability to import and export authorized values
08:10 magnuse ah, bug 10198
08:08 * magnuse wishes there was some way to export/import authorized values
07:39 drojf hei magnuse
07:39 magnuse moin drojf
07:37 drojf morning #koha
07:31 cait oh hey :)
07:29 Viktor cait: Indeed
07:27 cait Viktor: around?
06:53 Viktor kia ora Magnuse
06:52 wahanui bidet, alex_a
06:52 alex_a bonjour
06:48 huginn magnuse: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 day, 10 hours, 28 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <rangi> @later tell cdickinson awesome!!
06:48 magnuse @seen rangi
06:48 * magnuse suspects rangi of being on holiday
06:39 reiveune salut magnuse rangi :)
06:39 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:39 reiveune hello
06:34 magnuse kia ora Viktor
06:09 * magnuse waves
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01:59 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha
01:09 huginn mtompset: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 20 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <pianohacker> @later tell tcohen The last time I was working on something that used DBIC and added new tables, I had to run the schema loader but not submit any of the results with the bug. Is that still true?
01:09 mtompset @seen pianohacker