Time Nick Message 02:11 earl1v3tty hello 02:11 wahanui privet, earl1v3tty 02:12 earl1v3tty kak dilá 02:14 earl1v3tty how are you 02:14 earl1v3tty nice to meet you 04:25 irma I thought it was in the hands of Anita but when (months later) I checked, it was still not working. 04:25 wizzyrea ww irma? 04:26 irma hi wizzyrea :-) Indeed, sometimes librarians have to do contact their ejournal providers too ... 04:26 irma any way, how are you? 04:28 wizzyrea well :) 04:28 wizzyrea busy as :) 04:28 wizzyrea and you? 04:29 irma wizzyrea dito busy and having fun :-) 05:20 * magnuse waves 05:36 magnuse yay http://circulatingideas.com/2015/08/25/episode-74-equinox/ 05:43 mtj nice one magnuse :) 05:43 mtj jazzy piano 05:55 magnuse i havn't listened to it yet 06:05 putti Good morning ! :) 06:06 magnuse hiya putti 06:26 reiveune hello 06:26 wahanui hola, reiveune 06:29 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:29 magnuse @wunder boo 06:29 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 27, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 06:29 reiveune salut magnuse :) 06:37 marcelr hi #koha 06:39 putti In bug 8236, what can I do to help it get pushed to upstream? There is so many things going on so I don't know what I am supposed to be doing :D 06:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8236 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Prevent renewing if overdue or restriction 06:39 putti Should I sign-off of something? 06:42 marcelr putti: if you are not sure, do not sign off 06:43 putti but I want to be sure (and sign-off if it helps to the patch get pushed to upstream), so I am asking now :) 06:44 putti Should we squash the commits? 06:45 putti Or is it in that point that someone is just coming next to push it to master? 06:47 putti Can I sign-off that latest QA follow-up, for example, if I see it's a good follow-up? 06:51 magnuse yes, it looks like the first two patches have been signed off, but the last patch does need a signoff 06:52 magnuse putti: signing off the last patch would mean you could set the whole bug to "signed off" and it would be ready for the qa team to look at 06:52 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow if you are not familiar with it :-) 06:52 putti Cool! :D 06:52 marcelr putti: no need to squash commits without good reason 06:54 putti I have looked that wiki page but never encountered this type of bugzilla bug (where there is many different types of patches) 06:56 putti But every patch is supposed to have a sign-off, whether it is a QA something, Follow-up something, right? 06:56 Joubu o/ 06:56 magnuse yep, all patches need a signoff 06:56 magnuse and a signoff from the qa team 06:57 magnuse Joubu \o/ 06:57 Joubu putti: it depends on what kind of patch 06:59 Joubu for 8236, it needs a signoff, so if you want to see it moving one, you can test the whole patch set and sign it off 07:01 alex_a bonjour 07:02 putti Joubu: Sign-off the whole patch? QA follow-up patch looks like it only needs signing-off, signing-off the other patches would be wasted time? 07:05 magnuse nah, the more signoffs the better 07:05 Joubu putti: you cannot signoff only one patch of a patch set without testing all the feature/bugfix 07:05 Joubu because it does not make sense 07:06 magnuse you have to apply all three patches and test them, when you have done that, signing off all 3 is not a lot more work 07:06 putti It makes, the last one is just changes in the strings, so I could look if it is better with it or without. 07:07 putti Usually when I sign-off something I check that also the code is good, so If I'm going to check all the code it will take at least and hour :D 07:08 Joubu and it has already been qaed, so yes you can 07:08 Joubu that's why I said "it depends on the kind of patch" :) 07:09 putti So nobody will get upset if I just sign-off the last one? :P 07:10 Joubu at least not me, I cannot know for somebody else 07:11 Joubu but... actually it should have been just a rebase 07:11 Joubu the RM asked for a rebase, not to start a complete test workflow again 07:42 drojf morning 07:43 drojf i never get greeted by wahanui 07:43 drojf hi 07:43 drojf hello 07:43 drojf hm 07:43 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 07:43 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 21.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on August 27, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). 07:59 magnuse moin drojf 07:59 magnuse @wunder boo 07:59 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on August 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 07:59 drojf hei magnuse 08:28 putti What is the constrainttype column in reserves table? 08:28 putti What does it tell to us? 08:30 putti It's not explained in schema.koha-community.org.. :/ 08:38 Joubu putti: it has been removed :) 08:38 Joubu bug 9809 08:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Get rid of reserveconstraints 08:39 Joubu pushed to master yesterday 08:39 putti I'm doing things with that bug and I need to know what it does in order to sign-off 08:39 putti really 08:39 putti wow.. but the column is still there? Right? 08:39 Joubu no 08:40 putti There is code which is depending on that column 08:40 marcelr putti: git fetch 08:40 Joubu http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=41892 08:40 Joubu checkout an up-to-date master branch and execute the updatedb 08:40 putti Lemme see the code again 08:40 putti but first I'll push one patch :P 08:42 putti Can I amend license text ? 08:42 putti no need for a follow-up? 08:42 putti :D 08:43 Joubu What do you want to change in the license text? 08:43 putti because there is not one 08:43 putti or should the author do that? 08:44 putti Because it's he's work... 08:45 Joubu context? 08:45 wahanui context is everything? 08:45 putti Here http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14702 unit test is missing license 08:45 huginn 04Bug 14702: normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Refactor GetReserveFee 08:46 Joubu heh, I never add the license for test files 08:46 Joubu putti: you can ask for a follow-up, or submit it yourself if you like 08:46 Joubu it's preferable not to amend other's patches 08:47 putti okay 08:49 putti Joubu, the constrainttype didn't go away 08:50 putti oh wai 08:50 Joubu git show HEAD 08:50 putti I fetched but didn't apply the changes :) Let's see now 08:51 putti Gone :) 08:53 Joubu first actions of the day: git remote update; git rebase origin/master 09:08 Joubu be care if you use >3.18.7 and patroncards module, see bug 14739 09:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14739 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, ASSIGNED , Add several patrons to a new batch will create a new batch per patron added 09:33 marcelr putti: you are Joonas? 09:33 grharry Hi Koha! I am having lots or problems with the idzebra binaries as provided by the debian ( wheezie / jessie ) distros! Is there a idzebra debian repo that is known to perform ok ??? 09:33 Joubu marcelr: yes he is 09:33 marcelr ok thx 09:35 Joubu grharry: what kind of problems? 09:37 Joubu There was (is?) a problem with IndexData repo, the debian one should be ok 09:37 Joubu zebraidx -V | head -n1 09:39 grharry OK I presume wheezy version has problems with long records or long subfields !!! 09:40 grharry when indexing from command line or whatever it dies out ... with no warning !! 09:40 grharry when I upgrade to jessie 09:41 grharry I see lots of ... truncating xxxx 09:41 grharry When I upgrade to indexdata binaries ... all facets are gone !!!! 09:42 grharry I would be so happy to see the koha-repo to provide tested and suggested zebra binaries !!! 09:42 marcelr brb 09:44 Joubu grharry: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2015-February/thread.html 09:44 Joubu have a look at the "Zebra hyphen truncating search" and " Problems with Indexdata idzebra-2.0 build (Zebra 2.0.59)  " topics 09:46 Joubu I don't remember what was the final conclusion 09:46 Joubu you should try and ask tcohen or eythian 09:46 Joubu dcook might know as well 09:47 grharry what version you people use ?? 09:49 Joubu Zebra 2.0.44 but I don't know if it works well or not. I am a developer and don't use it daily 10:27 putti marcelr, Hi. The license kinda blocked but I just went to eat some lunch so I didn't have time to check the test code back then. Now it's signed-off :-) 10:27 marcelr putti++ 10:30 putti marcelr, btw the old code was so hard to read. Thank you for your time to refactor it! 10:36 marcelr np 10:39 Joubu marcelr: From bug 13971: Verify that your koha-conf does not contain: <gitified>1</gitified> 10:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13971 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Adjusted locations in koha-rebuild-zebra for gitified instance 10:40 Joubu who/what is supposed to add this tag? 10:40 marcelr Joubu: let me think and try to remember :) 10:42 marcelr commit msg: I will submit a separate follow-up report for adding those tags. :) 10:42 marcelr have to locate that one 10:43 Joubu marcelr: so it should be done manually after koha-gitify will be done? 10:43 marcelr Joubu: well it must be created still 10:43 marcelr the point here is step 1 should not have it and you add it later 10:43 marcelr yes manuallu 10:43 marcelr y 10:43 Joubu so it should be part of the koha-gitify install doc 10:44 Joubu marcelr: Are you sure there is no other way to know if the install has been gitified? 10:44 marcelr this is very easy 10:46 Joubu marcelr: hum? 10:47 marcelr this is an easy way to check 10:47 Joubu a lazy way you mean? :) 10:48 marcelr programmers should be lazy 10:49 marcelr part of the requirements 11:52 Joubu ashimema: ptfs-e's sandboxes are down? 11:53 ashimema will take a look.. thanks for the heads up Joubu 11:56 ashimema OOM on the server.. 11:56 ashimema rebooting it 11:57 putti marcelr, I'm a little bit worried how the patch for 13592 would work if the refactoring of the code you just did goes to master.. Lets hope they work together without any huge changes. 11:59 putti I mean it might depend some how to different items in the biblio ... But lets worry about that later 12:15 alex_a Anyone knows how the yaml config file works for Koha's OAI server ? 12:15 alex_a It's for test bug 12252 12:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Failed QA , OAI-PMH GetRecord result doesn't include item data 12:16 alex_a I created a yaml file, put "include_items: 1" in it. But oai_dc metadata is no more supported 12:20 tcohen morning° 12:20 tcohen morning! 12:21 marcelr putti: you can build your work on top of 14702 12:21 marcelr hi tcohen 12:21 tcohen hi marcelr 12:22 marcelr is bernardo still away? 12:26 tcohen i think he is around 12:44 tcohen marcelr: email him 12:45 marcelr np 12:45 tcohen i can walk towards the building he is working at, and deliver your message too 12:45 tcohen :-D 12:45 * tcohen loves excuses to visit bernardo 12:45 marcelr just thought he was not there yet 12:45 marcelr bring him some coffee 12:47 marcelr tcohen: the idea of a self signoff on trivial patches was not yet discussed? 12:47 marcelr should it be on a dev meeting or a general one? 12:49 tcohen we didn't yesterday, the meeting got longer than expected 12:49 marcelr ok 12:50 putti Does anyone know about gmcharlt, when has he been online the last time/has someone heard from him? I have been trying to reach him for the past week or so. 12:50 * gmcharlt has been on vacation 12:51 putti is he still? :D 12:51 marcelr guess not 12:51 marcelr ^ 12:51 gmcharlt putti: alas, I'm no longer on vacation ;) 12:53 putti gmcharlt, the email which I send to you about some MARC::XML module! 12:53 putti gmcharlt, Did you got it? 12:55 gmcharlt putti: just found it, looking at it 12:55 putti :) 12:56 gmcharlt putti: could you perchance email me a copy of the record in question? 12:59 putti Any record will do, just add a new line(s) to some field where can be many lines in (with the record editor in koha). 13:00 marcelr putti: if you work on a report, please put your name into the assignee field in Bugzilla (e.g. see bug 14683) 13:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14683 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Unable to clear SMS number 13:01 putti marcelr, I will from now on. 13:01 gmcharlt putti: OK, I'll try 13:01 marcelr thx 13:01 putti gmcharlt, field 500 a is one where you can try 13:18 magnuse kia ora cait 13:18 magnuse how's the masterclass? 13:18 cait i hope going well 13:18 cait andreas is up talking about their migration process 13:20 cait he is doing very well of course :) 13:20 magnuse yay 13:21 magnuse and i bet you did well too! 13:24 magnuse hiya talljoy 13:29 magnuse time to make dinner - have fun #koha! 13:29 cait bye magnuse :) 13:30 Joubu magnuse: dinner? But in which tz are you?? 13:32 magnuse Joubu: Norwegian = dinner at ~4pm 13:32 cait yeah... those norwegians... :) 13:35 marcelr Joubu: the more south you go, the later you eat :) 13:36 putti marcelr, what type of an issue it was? 13:36 Joubu I have just finished my lunch 13:36 cait we had cake 13:36 cait :) 13:37 putti good for you :P 13:47 alex_a_ Is Koha's SIP server able to return patron's information (with holds and loans) like ILS-DI ? 13:48 talljoy hiya magnuse 14:19 tcohen #koha: is it reasonable that the cn_browser.pl cataloguing plugin requires tools => cn_browser permissions? maybe catalogue should be enough? 14:19 tcohen Joubu: ? 14:21 Joubu tcohen: ¡! 14:21 Joubu I really don't know 14:22 Joubu + flagsrequired => { tools => 'cn_browser', catalogue => 1 }, 14:22 Joubu it requires either cn_browser or catalogue 14:22 Joubu I think it's an OR 14:23 tcohen it isnt' 14:23 tcohen i can only use it either with 'tools' (all set) or superlibrarin 14:23 tcohen a 14:24 Joubu tcohen: lol, I think ... it depends 14:24 Joubu look at C4/Auth.pm l. 845 14:24 tcohen Joubu: is it even deterministic? 14:25 Joubu no, forget that 14:26 Joubu ok, you need both (looking at the code only) 14:26 tcohen you are right it is an OR 14:26 tcohen daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnn 14:27 Joubu tcohen: sure? :) 14:28 Joubu tcohen: C4::Auth::haspermission return 0 if at least 1 flag is not set 14:28 tcohen that's an and 14:28 Joubu :p 14:28 Joubu try again! 14:29 tcohen the thing is, do we need tools->cn_browser ? 14:29 tcohen because it is only searching for the used call numbers... on the catalog 14:32 Joubu :q 14:32 Joubu oops 14:33 Joubu I am search for this permission in the .sql 14:33 Joubu ing 14:33 Joubu but don't find it 14:33 tcohen no it isn't there 14:33 tcohen i reverted my local commit adding it 14:33 tcohen i'm just removing the requirement for it 14:33 tcohen it only searches the items table for used callnumbers 14:34 tcohen i don't think it should require more than catalogue 14:34 Joubu tcohen: but it is in master! 14:34 Joubu cataloguing/value_builder/cn_browser.pl: flagsrequired => { tools => 'cn_browser', catalogue => 1 }, 14:34 tcohen yes 14:34 Joubu so it only works if you have the entire tool perm 14:34 tcohen i filled a bug (14737) and am attaching a patch right now, removing that requirement 14:35 Joubu francharb: around? 14:35 tcohen huginn: you don't like parenthesis, do you? 14:35 huginn tcohen: I've exhausted my database of quotes 14:39 tcohen bug 14737 14:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14737 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Can't use cn_browser.pl cataloguing plugin without superlibrarian permissions 14:59 putti Joubu, bug 14703, what do you say. 14:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14703 minor, P5 - low, ---, j.kylmala, Passed QA , Holidays description shows \r\n for every new line 15:00 Joubu putti: I haven't tested, but I think the cleaning should be done after the user's input 15:00 Joubu before inserting in the DB the \r\n 15:00 putti but then we still need to escape the <br> tag because for some reason javascript sees it as a new line 15:01 cait i think maybe there is a tt filter for that? 15:01 putti and there is lots of extra work to reassemble the description for editing 15:01 cait ah javascript hm. ignore me :) 15:01 putti cait, in never version of Template toolkit 15:02 putti but we won't use it very soon... :/ 15:03 putti or was the filter which isn't coming soon to koha about quotes... hmm. 15:04 tcohen from the Mojolicious webpage 15:04 putti I guess I tried the filter html_line_break but it didn't work. Maybe it works if I remove the \r 15:04 tcohen "Mojolicious applications are ridiculously simple to deploy with Plack" 15:13 ashimema tcohen.. is that you quoting yourself? 15:14 * ashimema doesn't run his mojo apps under plack.. he runs them under morbo for development and then under hynotoad for production.. that gives hime event loops for free ;) 15:14 tcohen ashimema: I just googled "mojolicious in plack" and the first result says so 15:15 * ashimema woudl encourage anyone working on the mojo based api to learn how to write non-blocking code ;) 15:15 ashimema haha.. yes indede it's not too hard ot get ti plack'd 15:15 ashimema but it's nto the 'recommended way'.. 15:15 ashimema hynotoad is the general recommendation 15:16 ashimema but for us.. plack does indeed make sense for now ;) 15:16 tcohen ashimema: we definitely improve one step at a time 15:16 tcohen otherwise we get stuck or even go backwards 15:17 ashimema certainly 15:17 wahanui i heard certainly was confusing.. thanks for bringing your attention to it. 15:17 * tcohen is being realistic, no intention to sound grumpy (this time) 15:17 ashimema question about it.. 15:17 ashimema are you intending to run the mojo plack in parallel to the rest of koha (in cgi or plack)? 15:18 ashimema or.. intending on running one plack to rule them both.. I have no idea how it fits together as yet ;) 15:18 tcohen the current integration approach (for the packages) runs one plack to rule them all 15:18 tcohen i succeded with opac + intranet 15:18 tcohen and left the /api endpoint commented out 15:18 tcohen ehh 15:19 tcohen i guess we will end up using a tweaked version of this http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Guides/Cookbook#Plack-middleware 15:24 tcohen ashimema: https://github.com/tomascohen/koha/blob/c5dfe105974a8cc59402999d0824e2cac2a2caae/debian/templates/plack.psgi 15:29 Joubu Our RM is always complaining! (:D) 15:37 ashimema ->cool 15:43 ashimema ack.. 15:43 ashimema oops.. wrong irx 15:45 * Joubu wants to know what is cool 16:01 reiveune bye 16:10 tcohen Joubu: ashimema is cheating on us, hanging out with the dbix-class guys 16:10 tcohen they are cooler than us :-P 16:17 Joubu bye #koha 16:21 ashimema their code is nicer ;) 16:21 ashimema there's all sorts of things I'd love to use i koha.. but alas there's too much overhead to get them in ;) 16:22 ashimema the koha::objects is a really prime example.. we'de have been way better just using dbic resultset objects (adn adding the odd view as and when we needed ti).. 16:22 ashimema and fixing our schema whilst we go.. 16:22 ashimema ading koha::objects in my mind just throws away huge swaths of great stuff from dbic.. and adds yet another obfuscated intrface to learn 16:26 Joubu We hadn't something else working 16:26 Joubu nobody have suggested something else 16:27 Joubu well, bye #koha :) 16:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14579: 'You are not logged in' should link to log in page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=255d133acac24a675dca0106ede20359257d0701> / Bug 14634: Warns when placing hold on record with no items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4bb888281dec7de676fc6546746a88835a822c62> / Bug 13791: (RM followup) Add new dependencies for packaging <http://git.koha-community.o 18:26 bartonDND tcohen: perfect timing: bug 14217 18:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add a DOM syntax for specifying conditions on indexes 18:27 bartonDND hot off the presses :-) 18:27 tcohen heh 18:27 tcohen did u like it? 18:28 bartonDND yep. worked like a charm... 18:29 tcohen i'm glad to hear that 18:29 tcohen i assume you signed it? 18:29 bartonDND yes. 18:29 tcohen cool :-D 18:31 tcohen magnuse: is it a problem that the provisioning script is written in ansible? 18:55 magnuse tcohen: you'll do a pull request for kohadevbox that changes the provisioning to ansible? 18:59 tcohen magnuse: well, i'm not sure yet. I have a working ansible playbook, but am not sure how to solve a couple things (notably making the git source debian scripts be the ones to run) 19:00 tcohen i might need to patch koha-gitify 19:00 tcohen or someone 19:00 tcohen do it 19:01 tcohen but yes, after akafred tought me about ansible, there's no way back 19:01 tcohen magnuse: i wrote kohabuildbox like that :-D 19:08 magnuse tcohen: cool 19:08 magnuse i don't know ansible, but i should get my head round something like that one of these days 19:57 bartonDND zebra index question ... well actually bib1.att question: do we have any guidelines for bib1 attributes otheer than http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/bib1.html? I notice that we've used some that aren't in there... 19:58 bartonDND are there any broad rules for using attributes that aren't part of the loc spec? 20:06 nengard anyone know if you can query an indicator using the marc modification templates? 20:06 nengard I think not ... but maybe regex 21:40 wizzyrea callender: hiya, are you planning to come in to catalyst today 21:41 wizzyrea er, ignore that 21:41 wizzyrea because my brain isn't working correctly SORRY 21:45 pianohacker Callender: run away! 22:23 francesca hey wizzyrea 22:23 wahanui i think wizzyrea is desperate to make a snarky reply here, but I'm not feeling very creative :) 22:24 wizzyrea yeah that's normal lol. 22:24 francesca lol 22:24 francesca have a look at this 22:39 eythian hi 22:40 francesca hey 23:27 pianohacker so, two things, one good one confusing 23:27 pianohacker we've got about half our libraries on HEA now 23:27 pianohacker http://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences 23:28 pianohacker but the single lonely 4.08 under Version makes me wonder if there's a LLEK library in there... 23:28 rangi i dunno how they would have got the hea stuff to work 23:28 rangi but yeah i noticed that 23:28 rangi i suspect someone migrated from LLEK 23:28 rangi and the version number is still borked 23:29 rangi which means their db probably is 23:29 rangi in some weird state 23:29 rangi http://hea.koha-community.org/ 23:29 pianohacker oh god. That's likely :/ 23:29 rangi you fullas need to pick a single way to name your country 23:29 rangi :) 23:29 pianohacker pfft 23:30 rangi (must be only the new ones reporting the country) 23:30 pianohacker I don't think any of those are us... I need to talk about setting UsageStatsCountry 23:30 pianohacker because we've got 100+ libraries reporting now :) 23:30 rangi yeah, we should get more of ours reporting too 23:31 rangi but yeah you might want to see if you can find out who the 4.08 one is 23:31 francesca arghhh javascript 23:31 pianohacker hopefully not one of ours! 23:32 rangi LLEK didnt have much reach outside the US .. but it might be one that went self maintained 23:32 pianohacker oh gosh, they wouldn't have gotten DB updates in forever 23:33 rangi yeah 23:33 rangi altho its odd 23:33 rangi hea needs db updates 23:33 rangi iirc 23:36 pianohacker bye all! 23:41 francesca hey anyone good with javascript? 23:57 wizzyrea http://www.digitalnz.org/records?tab=Images&text=christchurch&view=gallery < Francesca 23:58 wizzyrea for your granny :) 23:59 francesca thanks, I'll show it to her :)