Time Nick Message 00:06 Francesca right 3 hour lecture done 00:06 Francesca anyone around? 01:15 Francesca anyone around 01:19 rangi hi Francesca 01:19 Francesca hey rangi whatsup 01:24 pianohacker hallo 01:26 Francesca hey its my friend pianohacker 01:26 pianohacker shalom 01:26 pianohacker how goes it 01:26 Francesca I'm having lunch before I last minute an assignment due at 5 01:27 Francesca how about you? hacked any pianos recently? 01:27 pianohacker hell yeah, college 01:27 pianohacker nope... been busy with working and teaching 01:27 Francesca cool 01:27 Francesca what are you teaching 01:27 pianohacker Introduction to C++ 01:27 Francesca cool 01:28 pianohacker it's really ironic that you mention last minuting, because when I took this class myself 5 years ago I made it a game to start the assignments as late as possible 01:28 pianohacker due at midnight? 01:28 Francesca nope 01:28 Francesca 5pm 01:28 pianohacker wouldn't wanna start it sooner than 11 PM. 01:28 Francesca and its already 1.28 01:28 Francesca hahahaha 01:28 pianohacker oh, I was giving an example 01:28 Francesca risky risky 01:28 pianohacker but you're starting it already? 01:28 pianohacker overachiever 01:29 Francesca I have to be in town at 4 01:29 Francesca also so there is a significant amount of music terminology and writing involved 01:30 pianohacker well, fair 01:30 Francesca normally I would leave it later 01:32 Francesca one day I am just going to buy another laptop and install linux on it 01:32 Francesca then I would not be fighting my OS every step of the way to installing bugzilla 01:33 pianohacker oh, you're installing it on Mac? 01:33 pianohacker *shiver* 01:33 pianohacker no fun 01:33 Francesca I agree 01:33 Francesca buuut my virtual machine never runs like I want it to 01:33 pianohacker there was a guy who tried to get Koha on a Mac server ages and ages ago, that was apparently very painful 01:33 Francesca eh seems to be going ok so far 01:33 pianohacker you can dual-boot mac and linux :) 01:34 Francesca yeah I'm not quite at that level yet 01:34 Francesca anyways it seems to be working so far 01:34 Francesca so fingers crossed 01:35 pianohacker join ussss 01:35 pianohacker it'sssss not thaaaaat baaaaaad 01:56 Francesca i know linux isn't that bad 01:56 Francesca I've used it before 02:07 ibeardslee "isn't that bad" ?!? 02:09 pianohacker and putting Linux on a Mac isn't that bad either :) 02:11 ibeardslee s/isn't that bad/makes good sense/ 02:11 ibeardslee s/either// 02:11 ibeardslee </zealot> 02:12 pianohacker </alsozealot> 02:13 wizzyrea </zealot_the_third> 02:18 Francesca I like linux 02:23 pianohacker put it on your mac 02:23 pianohacker linux is the cheese for your mac 02:25 Francesca I'll have to get help 02:25 Francesca I don't want to stuff up the laptop I use for pretty much everything 02:25 Francesca I do run ubuntu via virtual box at the moment though 02:26 Francesca btw what is </zealot> 02:26 Francesca don't think I've seen that before 02:28 pianohacker informing you of the end of the zealotry in proper html form :) 02:28 pianohacker (though it's not really the end) 02:33 wizzyrea yeah, it's ongoing here. :P 02:34 pianohacker bye all 02:45 Francesca bye pianohacker 02:45 Francesca and he's already gone 05:18 drojf morning #koha 05:18 eythian hi drojf 05:21 drojf hi eythian 05:22 drojf got a reply from thessaloniki, they are working on the proposal website. so they are still in :) 05:22 eythian cool 06:20 Francesca hello 06:20 wahanui hey, Francesca 06:25 marcelr hi #koha 06:26 drojf hi marcelr 06:32 marcelr hi drojf 06:58 reiveune hello 06:58 wahanui niihau, reiveune 07:14 fridolin1 hie there 07:14 cait hi fridolin1 07:15 cait I had a unimarc problem somewhere i was wndering if you could confirm it 07:18 cait bug 14527 07:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14527 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , zebra error 114 when searching for items added before or after a specific date 07:31 cait *sigh* bug 13640 07:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13640 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds To Pull List includes items unreserveable items 07:39 cait morning gaetan_B 07:39 gaetan_B hello 08:16 drojf berlin paid 1.600.000€ to apply for olympic games 2024. 1.300.000€ were used for a marketing campaign called (translated) »we want the games« that was supposed to make people in berlin vote in favour that application. 08:17 drojf we don't have enough housing space. schools are rotting, because there is no money. but yeah, why not. 08:17 drojf *in favour of 08:48 cait drojf: calm down and fix a koha bug? :) 08:49 drojf cait: writing invoices ;) 08:49 cait heh ok 08:49 drojf not about 1600000€ unfortunately 08:49 cait hopefuly you are not as expensive as the olympics 08:49 drojf lol 08:49 drojf not yet 08:50 drojf we could have migrated all berlin libraries to koha for that money 08:50 drojf :P 08:51 cait oh holds... 08:51 wahanui holds are made to sell more aspirin 08:51 cait yep definitely 08:51 drojf hahaha 08:51 drojf cait: fixing last minute bugs? 08:52 cait finding last minute problems... 08:52 drojf aaaand then… fixing them last second! 08:52 cait hmpf 08:52 drojf let me know if you need last minute signoffs 08:52 cait i placed 2 holds that need to come off the shelf 08:52 cait and they are not showing up in the reports 08:53 cait why? 08:53 drojf i hope i get more ram for the office notebook today, so i can actually run a virtzal machine on it ;) 08:53 drojf hm sorry, don't know 08:53 cait i am totally confused 08:59 cait this pendingreserves report is nuts 09:00 nlegrand hey #koha! 09:00 cait good 09:01 cait i think it was my mistake 09:01 cait hi nlegrand .9 09:01 cait .9 09:01 cait :) 09:01 nlegrand hey cait o/ :) 09:02 cait but pending reserves is still weird - it doesn't seem to differentiate between item and record level holds? 11:02 liw rangi++ 11:19 marcelr holds? 11:19 wahanui holds are made to sell more aspirin 11:19 cait exactly 11:20 marcelr could have been your words :) 11:20 cait who knows... :) 11:21 cait marcelr: what is your library using for the 'on shelf holds'? 11:21 cait i was looking at holds queue vs. pendingreserves earlier 11:21 marcelr i have a custom report for pulling holds 11:21 cait ok... that is an option too :) 11:21 marcelr but it is close to pendingreserves 11:22 cait the problem with pendingreserves is that it picks not for loan items 11:22 marcelr i did not see that 11:22 marcelr but could be version and prefs combination 11:34 cait marcelr: hm there is alreay an older bug for that 11:34 cait it's a not for loan itemtype even :( 11:37 cait marcelr: the other thing is that it's not showing any difference for item and record level holds... unless i am missing something 11:49 marcelr cait: probably you are not missing something 12:13 brevilo hi 12:13 wahanui hello, brevilo 12:14 cait marcelr: hmpf :) 12:14 brevilo just wanted to ask a quick question: is there a way to enable notifications for pending staff actions, like pending moderation and purchase suggestions? 12:16 brevilo (by notification I mean via email notices) 12:25 cait brevilo: i think there is something on the way for suggestions, but not for other things 12:25 cait and it will be in an upcoming release, so not availbel now 12:29 brevilo cait: thanks, do you have a bugzilla ID? I couldn't find anything... 12:30 cait bug 13014 - maybe too specific 12:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13014 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Sent an email to budget owner when a suggestion can be treated 12:33 brevilo cait/huginn: thanks, that seems about right. might have to file a RFC for the rest then. 12:33 cait huginn is a bot :) 12:33 cait he reacts to keywords like bug <number> :) 12:33 brevilo no reason not to thank "him" ;-) 12:33 cait that's true 12:33 cait huginn botsnack cookie 12:34 cait wahanui botnsack cookie 12:34 wahanui cait: what? 12:34 cait hm, they used to like them 12:34 brevilo heh 12:38 tcohen morning! 12:46 tcohen marcelr: aroud? 12:47 marcelr hi tcohen 12:47 brevilo cait: I guess 13014 indeed to specific (targeting a different part of the workflow). New RFC incoming... 12:48 cait morning tcohen 12:48 tcohen hi cait! 12:48 tcohen are you really back? 12:48 cait back in which sense? 12:48 cait still on overload - but i am here 12:48 tcohen back here 12:48 cait library goes live next week... we will see after then :) 12:49 tcohen heh 12:49 tcohen let us know anything we could be of any help 12:49 cait can you fix all the bugs? :P 13:02 tcohen shoot 13:02 tcohen :-P 13:08 cait tcohen: don't tempt me :) 13:11 brevilo cheers 14:35 fridolin1 hie, does anyone have issues with old Firefox and Ajax features like patron search ? 14:36 fridolin1 out client reports a pb with FF21, the patron search does not respond 14:36 fridolin1 is there a minium version of FF for 3.18 version? 14:36 cait it works for you? 14:36 cait i think data can also cause this - maybe ask them for the exact search they are doing 14:36 fridolin1 cait: yes but I have version 36 of FF 14:37 cait hm i have 31.8 14:37 fridolin1 they click on a first letter 14:37 cait no known problems on our side 14:37 cait which first letter? 14:37 cait i had a case where an adblocker blocked 1! of the letters 14:37 cait and it gave no results 14:37 fridolin1 ouuuu strange 14:38 fridolin1 I'll ask 14:38 cait yeah it was pretty weird 14:38 cait hm it was G 14:38 cait loading forever, no results 14:40 cait hm it seems the problem was ot totally resolved - maybe the plugin, but maybe the firefox version, they reported it worked after installing a newer version 14:41 fridolin1 cait: wich where the old/new versions of FF ? 14:45 cait they had 25 14:46 cait they didn't send the newer version number that fixed it 14:46 cait but might be anothe rproblem you see - unless it's only the one letter broken :) 15:13 nlegrand I'm a bit puzzled my the plugin system... Does it work? 15:29 reiveune bye 15:45 cait nlegrand: i think it does - there are a few plugns on the bywater page you could use for testing 15:46 cait but you need to activate it first in a few steps - including one change in koha-conf.xml 17:16 gaetan_B bye 18:11 tcohen holds vs. reserves? 18:13 wnickc holds 18:14 tcohen thanks wnickc 18:14 tcohen I always forget 18:14 wnickc wel,, depends on what you actually meant by that question, just throwing out my opinion 18:14 wnickc tcohen:^^^^ 18:15 tcohen wnickc: if it is wrong, it will be your fault, so I don't care anymore 18:15 tcohen :-P 18:15 wnickc I can accept that 18:36 pianohacker_ninja tcohen: Check ze terminology page! :) 18:40 drojf pianohacker_ninja: that page says if it's a book, i check it out, but if it's a serial issue, i issue the issue? 18:40 * drojf implodes 18:41 pianohacker_ninja nah, you'd check out the issue 18:41 pianohacker_ninja :) 18:41 drojf that's not what i read in "Check out (not issue, unless you are talking about a serial issue) " 18:41 drojf :P 20:01 dan_ Hello, someone please help: What to do if I get a persisting "Error 500" for having removed a sub (and subsequent "@EXPORT" line edition) in Auth.pm ? Is it related with Perl's CGI sessions in memory or something like that? 20:09 cait dan_: why did you change Auth.pm? 20:10 dan_ a new subroutine by mine 20:11 cait sorry, I can't really help you debug it - I'd go back to the original file if possible 20:13 dan_ but have you had before an error similar to this? 20:14 cait error 500 is pretty unspecific 20:14 cait i don't think we can tell form that what's going wrong for you 20:17 rangi morning 20:20 cait morning rangi 20:20 drojf hi rangi 20:38 drojf good night #koha 20:46 Francesca good morning 20:46 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one 20:46 Francesca thats sad 20:50 cait wahanui botsnack cookie 20:50 wahanui :) 20:52 * Francesca waves at cait 20:57 cait hi Francesca :) 20:58 Francesca what sup cait 20:58 cait lots? 20:58 wahanui lots is cc-sa or cc-by-sa those you can use 20:58 cait forget lots 20:58 wahanui cait: I forgot lots 20:59 cait not sure what a good response is :) 21:07 pianohacker_ninja lots is <reply>yes, lots 21:12 cait ninja? :) 21:25 Francesca right test finished 21:25 Francesca now I can continue installing bugzilla 22:36 cait wizzyrea: can youtake a look at bug 14465 in the pqa queue? it's a patch only for 3.18.x (pre utf-8 clean-up) 22:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14465 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Broken umlauts/diacritics in feedback of last checkout 22:36 eythian hi 22:36 wahanui hi, eythian 22:36 cait it owrks nicely in our installations :) 22:51 wizzyrea yep 22:56 wizzyrea oh cait, do I need the full sign off for bug 14586 22:56 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14586 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Update 3.18 Koha team with new release maintainers 23:52 wizzyrea omg there's a "change several bugs at once" in the new bugzilla 23:52 wizzyrea *swoon* 23:53 wizzyrea that means I can go to this list http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&list_id=136534&namedcmd=3.20%20pushed, tick the ones I've done stuff to, and update them all at once >.< amazing. 23:54 * Francesca waves at wizzyrea 23:54 wizzyrea hi Francesca ;) 23:54 Francesca hows it going? 23:56 wizzyrea oh, alright. I have had a terrible cold so my brain wants to do nothing but snuffle. 23:57 Francesca oh no! 23:57 Francesca I've had that as well 23:57 Francesca its going around