Time Nick Message
23:59 dcook In hindsight, I think maybe the issue wasn't with the plugin but with something that was being done here with it...
23:59 dcook Ah right
23:59 rangi alvet
23:59 dcook Yeah, Andrew(?) seems pretty good
23:59 wizzyrea you just do it on github
23:58 wizzyrea you still should though.
23:58 rangi they do the plugin and are pretty responsive
23:58 dcook Yeah, maybe that's why I didn't
23:58 rangi you'd file that bug report with EBSCO
23:58 rangi dcook: not on koha tho
23:58 dcook I recall having an issue with the plugin but now I can't remember what it was... I suppose that's why one files bug reports..
23:58 rangi if you put EDS over the top, then yeah you do it that way
23:58 rangi depends
23:57 dcook Yeah, I don't have enough experience with EDS. I think we do exports that get fed into EDS... then I think they use ILS-DI for availability? I'm not 100% sure...
23:57 rangi which uses the plugin
23:57 rangi https://library.niwa.co.nz/
23:57 rangi vs say
23:57 rangi eds doesnt search koha
23:57 rangi they keep their catalogue, and eds separate
23:57 dcook Mmm, I see I see
23:56 rangi which takes you direct to koha
23:56 eythian dcook: stuff for presenting information to people
23:56 rangi dcook: once you login you see a search box
23:56 * dcook sees a Koha link
23:56 dcook Ahh, there it is
23:56 dcook eythian: brochure site?
23:55 dcook wizzyrea: Although it's pretty locked down for mercyhurst, no?
23:55 wizzyrea looks like they don't use the opac at all for mercyhurst
23:55 eythian they're themed to look alike, and share authentication
23:55 eythian dcook: for education.govt.nz, drupal is the brochure site, and koha is the library site
23:54 * dcook would love to see more front-end options...
23:54 dcook So they have Drupal and EDS as the front? Do they send you over to Koha for things like holds or do they use ILS-DI for that?
23:53 BobB rangi I hadn't, but that is really nice
23:53 wizzyrea yeah that's almost exactly like what library.education.govt.nz have done
23:52 dcook Ahh right. I was going to look at that email..
23:51 rangi im hoping tim or someone from that library will answer the mercyhurst email
23:51 rangi thats a drupal + koha too
23:51 rangi BobB: have you seen https://library.education.govt.nz/
23:48 BobB http://library.mercyhurst.edu/
23:02 wizzyrea < TEASING.
23:02 wizzyrea dunno, seems dodgy.
23:01 wizzyrea hehe
22:59 bag :P
22:59 cait :)
22:58 eythian Hmm, I dunno if we should trust that guy asking to be added to the support provider list :)
22:35 wahanui OK, eythian.
22:35 eythian wahanui: german sports is <reply>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6nI1v7mwwA
22:33 pianohacker bye all
22:30 pianohacker while true; do dd if=money of=rackspace; done
22:29 eythian http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/07/08/true-story-fixing-a-self-ddos/
22:29 eythian excellent :)
22:26 pianohacker well, I'll make sure that the pretty bow stays while the ugly guts get flushed
22:25 eythian yeah :)
22:22 pianohacker okay, cool. and the misc/translator/translate script is pretty decent... it's just the guts hidden inside that are messy
22:22 eythian pianohacker: probably not, it really just uses the regular koha translation method wrapped up with a pretty bow.
22:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, NEW , Javascript files in js directory are not translated
22:21 pianohacker oh! hey eythian. I'm looking at some pretty serious open heart surgery on the translation stuff (originally to fix bug 4503), are there any issues as far as the packages go that I could fix while it's on the table?
22:20 pianohacker hi eythian
22:19 wahanui niihau, eythian
22:19 eythian hi
22:15 pianohacker bye fjord
22:15 drojf ugh it's late. :/ good night #koha
22:14 drojf yup
22:14 pianohacker heh, the tv stations?
22:14 drojf i wish they would have to use po files, that would end all the translation and dubbing madness forever
22:12 drojf *too
22:12 drojf oh my. german tv station buys welsh tv series "hinterland" (which is a german word), and calls it "Inspector Mathias – Mord in Wales" (murder in wales). because it would have been to easy to just once keep the original title
22:07 drojf hehe
22:07 pianohacker that was entertainingly crazy
22:07 pianohacker heh, the tiny Koha library I used to administrate was on Arch
22:06 drojf looks less crazy than what i remember i had to do on opensuse when i did my first koha installation http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Redhat_Enterprise_6
22:04 pianohacker "works"
22:02 drojf TIL koha 3.20 works on redhat 6.6
21:56 drojf awww kitty rescue (damn storify finally worked)
21:53 cait he is not in chat often
21:50 pianohacker he can comment on the patch :P
21:49 pianohacker cait: he's avoiding my emails and laters
21:49 cait hm you shoudl get in contact with bgkriegel i think - translation manager then :)
21:48 pianohacker and post a test plan that allows verification that the generated .po's/templates are basically identical
21:48 pianohacker but since the general consensus I've reached with rangi and drojf is that the translation workflow is acceptable but the code is crazy, I'm gonna basically rewrite the translation extraction/application code
21:47 cait heh
21:47 pianohacker That was the last thing on the to-do list and undergrad got in the way ;)
21:46 pianohacker yeah, I know...
21:46 cait i was glad someoen did make them translatable ;)
21:46 pianohacker cait: yeah, harder code
21:46 drojf pianohacker: it's probably a little bit of all of that
21:45 cait hm yeah... having one entry each with placeholders would be another way - but was probably harder? dunno
21:45 drojf or at least it pretends there is more, but does not load
21:45 drojf rangi: especially if it does not work. i think i allowed a gazillion domains now but it still does not work :/
21:45 pianohacker cait: ah, that makes sense. Easier than parameterizing them
21:44 cait i think it avoids one entry for multiple 'words' intently
21:44 cait pianohacker: the po file for pref keeps the strings together to make it possible to translate the sentences to make sense
21:44 rangi drojf: yeah, endless scroll is kinda annoying
21:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, NEW , Javascript files in js directory are not translated
21:44 pianohacker cait: fixing bug 4503
21:44 cait pianohacker: what are you talking about? :)
21:43 cait hi pianohacker?!
21:43 pianohacker hi cait!
21:43 pianohacker hi cait?
21:43 drojf i wish i could scroll to the next page in storify
21:43 pianohacker drojf: now that I've read up on it, I'm not sure why whoever did the .pref thing didn't use it. In a rush, wasn't properly exposed in pootle, ...?
21:43 * cait waves
21:42 rangi pianohacker: it's pretty neat eh
21:41 pianohacker rangi: that twitter cat rescue is adorable
21:41 pianohacker kk
21:40 rangi https://twitter.com/PigeonJon/status/620707787778195457
21:39 drojf pianohacker: afaik it will have multiple entries in the po file, one for each context
20:42 pianohacker drojf: do you know how that context thing is supposed to show up in the .po?
20:35 pianohacker drojf: it seems like a hacky version of what you're talking about
20:31 drojf ah that thing. it shows up in translations from time to time when people don't know it has to be deleted in the translated version ;)
20:30 pianohacker msgstr "Do"
20:30 pianohacker drojf: example: msgid "acquisitions.pref#AcqEnableFiles# Do"
20:30 pianohacker I very much want to solve the pain point of untranslatable .js files, but are there any other headaches for development that you all can think of (besides contexts)?
20:29 drojf pianohacker: not sure how the pref po files are done
20:29 drojf [off] heh. had a tiny school asking about hosting, made a pretty cheap offer, got asked if they can put like all libraries of the city into it for that price. that turned out nicely :D
20:28 pianohacker drojf: ah, so vaaaaaguely like what the .pref .po files do?
20:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Vocabulary disambiguation
20:27 drojf also bug 11285
20:27 drojf regarding context https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/Contexts.html
20:26 pianohacker (oh, cool!)
20:26 rangi (my dad is a licensed translator and interpreter :))
20:25 rangi the main problem for the translators is context ... which is the problem when doing any translation
20:25 rangi (for the developers)
20:25 rangi but it is overly complex
20:25 rangi its not often we build broken templates out of it
20:24 rangi and it's solid
20:24 rangi and certainly one of the biggest amount to translate
20:24 rangi we have one of the most translated projects
20:24 rangi it works decently well for the translators themselves
20:23 drojf there is not much about the process that i would describe as "working well"
20:21 pianohacker work well for translators?
20:21 pianohacker and actually rangi, that was another question you might have some perspective on; does the current workflow (leaving aside the awkwardness of translating at a distance in a .po editor vs. something like what you mentioned)
20:20 rangi *nod*
20:19 pianohacker I think about 20% of the complexity is there because we're trying to automagically translate .tt's rather than doing anything more explicit
20:19 pianohacker I very much agree
20:18 rangi i feel like it has to be being made more complicated than it needs to be
20:17 pianohacker I always wondered why .pref translation was glommed on the side of LangInstaller and I'm quickly figuring it out
20:17 rangi yeah, i get lost in there
20:17 pianohacker rangi: yeah, the problem is the crazy interaction and nesting... translate create calls tmpl_process calls LangInstaller calls xgettext calls tmpltokenizer calls ttparser...
20:15 rangi thats whats doing the reading/writing .. then all the really confusing stuff is in the C4::Tmpl* modules
20:15 pianohacker rangi: yeah, thanks
20:14 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~cosimo/Locale-PO-0.27/lib/Locale/PO.pm I wonder if that doc is any help?
20:13 pianohacker was curious if you had a maori version
20:13 rangi naw, they dont do any translation
20:12 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~tokuhirom/Localizer-0.05/
20:12 pianohacker rangi: does stuff.co.nz have a good translation workflow?
20:11 rangi until they start
20:11 pianohacker ... kivi has a habit of saying things will be easy ;)
20:11 rangi everyone says that
20:11 drojf kivilahtio said it would be very easy to do. some time ago, before he did a lot of other things ;)
20:10 rangi yeah
20:10 pianohacker hmm... while that helps with the filling in of .pot's (.po's without translations? Is that right?), there's still the other two steps of generating the .pot's and applying the translated .po's
20:09 rangi i havent fully formed this idea ;)
20:09 rangi which then you can submit somehow upstream
20:09 pianohacker I think I remember this conversation
20:09 rangi and translate it, and it gets written back somewhere
20:09 pianohacker rangi: on-demand client-side translation?
20:09 rangi and you can click on stuff
20:09 rangi you switch the site to translation mode
20:08 pianohacker I was probably going for the same workflow but was gonna have to toss most of the code
20:08 rangi im thinking using js
20:08 drojf pianohacker: i think i have some notes somewhere. will have a look tomorrow
20:08 drojf rangi: probably 1000x easier :D
20:08 pianohacker rangi: depends what you mean
20:08 pianohacker drojf: dear lord yes. Do you have any more info? That sounds interesting
20:08 rangi drojf/pianohacker im wondering if what we want to do is leave that code alone, and investigate doing the po files a whole different way
20:07 rangi he saw a cat in a cemetery, and the biggest twitter orchestrated rescue ever took place, its neat ;)
20:07 drojf i want to do that eventually, but i remember it was all twisted mazes in there so i was happy i found my way out again ;)
20:06 rangi tldr; ryan adams https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Adams is in nz for a tour
20:06 drojf pianohacker: you can have context for translations. somehow. for disambiguation
20:06 rangi https://storify.com/thejduce/ryan-rob-rescue-a-kitten
20:05 rangi hehe
20:05 pianohacker drojf: context support?
20:05 pianohacker rangi: he's running away from my emails about this too :)
20:05 rangi ask him to poke him for you :)
20:04 rangi he often sits near bgkriegel at work
20:04 drojf pianohacker: can you add context support while you're in there? :P
20:04 rangi ahh, next time you see tcohen
20:04 pianohacker Thanks regardless, there's so many levels of nesting that I'm still figuring out where everything goes
20:03 pianohacker okay. Haven't been able to get in touch with him
20:02 rangi hhmmm i dont know of any, bgkriegel might know, he has been working on that i think?
20:02 pianohacker and while I'll of course verify that it spits out a similar POT the code is obscure enough that I'm not sure what's needed and what's by cosmic accident
20:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, NEW , Javascript files in js directory are not translated
20:02 pianohacker rangi: is there any kind of documentation of the sorts of strings (parameterized or otherwise) that xgettext.pl spits out? I may have to do some heavy digging in the translation code to fix bug 4503, and I'm trying to preserve parity
20:01 pianohacker okay, fair. Was going off my memory of you being involved in translation
20:00 rangi but fire away
20:00 rangi go for it, i may not know the answer, its been 5 or so years since i last looked at that stuff
19:59 pianohacker *question
19:59 pianohacker rangi: while I hate to ambush someone first thing in the morning, could I ask you a brief translation questin?
19:58 nengard tricky tricky
19:58 pianohacker hahaha
19:58 nengard oh! hehe
19:58 rangi h2 is answering even more mail now :)
19:58 liw rangi, that's the best kind of cunning plan
19:58 nengard ??
19:57 rangi ah ha my cunning plan worked
19:52 nengard hola rangi
19:52 rangi morning
17:21 tcohen Joubu: hahah
17:03 Joubu tcohen: I didn't find any typo "KOHA" on your website, I am not sure you will be listed!
16:31 gaetan_B bye
15:47 pianohacker Joubu: I was a bit confused by it when I first discovered it too, but the test data we use often results in much narrower tables :)
15:46 Joubu pianohacker: good point, thanks
15:45 pianohacker Joubu: for when the table gets wide and you have to scroll to get back to the links on the left
15:44 Joubu ?
15:44 Joubu cait: what's the usefulness of the "edit item" and "delete item" links when you click on the table,
15:38 Joubu My browser is possessed!!!
15:33 cait ;)
15:31 cait no matter what you say, i will still say it's an evil bug
15:31 cait huh?
15:31 Joubu ctrl+q!
15:29 cait and honestly... if i had had this happen in a demo... people would get pretty worried
15:29 cait so they might misclick
15:29 Joubu that's true
15:29 cait the library says the links are too close
15:29 Joubu s/you/why
15:28 Joubu cait: but you do you click on delete if you don't want to delete it? :p
15:28 pianohacker hallo
15:27 cait with the result browser showing (on the edit item screen!) i can reproduce it pretty well
15:27 cait one of those bugs that are really ugly
15:26 Joubu that's a bit... irritating
15:26 Joubu it's exactly what I did 10min ago :)
15:26 cait i will write what i did on the bug
15:26 cait go detail > edit items
15:26 Joubu it didn't work, but it has worked now!
15:25 cait don't use the edit items link from the results page
15:25 Joubu weird, I tried that 10min ago
15:25 cait it#s totally reproducable, i just did it in firefox
15:25 Joubu ha
15:25 cait by the way i told you
15:25 cait they showed me while screen sharing
15:24 cait it happens for our customers in firefox
15:24 Joubu "although in my case the problem was with Chrome and IE while it worked in Firefox."
15:23 cait ?
15:23 cait could you try - search results - detail page (with results browser showing up) - edit items - delete
15:22 cait but related to the results browser
15:22 cait i think it's not browser specific
15:22 cait i think there is some confusion there
15:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13943 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cancelling the deletion process of an item deletes item anyway
15:22 cait bug 13943
15:22 Joubu yep
15:22 cait Joubu: still around?
15:07 reiveune bye
15:06 Joubu I did not test
15:06 Joubu yes, we need it to be backported quite quickly, I think the bug exists in all version now :-/
15:01 cait imine was for the rss patch :)
14:59 barton Joubu++
14:56 cait [off] cool :)
14:56 cait Joubu++ thx!
14:55 Joubu barton: sorry, my answer was a bit too short to be complete :-/ You were not ambiguous
14:30 drojf [off] looks like someone who offered to help with a hackfest in berlin is the same person i will meet tomorrow to talk about sharing office space. small world
14:00 * magnuse wanders off
14:00 huginn` xekhz: The current temperature in Beja, Portugal is 30.0°C (2:00 PM WEST on July 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
14:00 xekhz @wunder lpbj
13:59 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 26.0°C (2:30 PM WEST on July 13, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
13:59 magnuse @wunder lppt
13:58 magnuse http://www.wunderground.com/, i *think*
13:58 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
13:58 magnuse @wunder lisbon
13:58 drojf where does the weather data come from?
13:57 magnuse huh?
13:57 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
13:57 magnuse @wunder lisbon, portugal
13:57 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
13:57 magnuse @wunder lisabon, portugal
13:57 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
13:57 magnuse @wunder lisboa, portugal
13:57 drojf doesn#t exist, sorry ;)
13:57 drojf well
13:57 huginn` drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
13:57 drojf @wunder lisboa
13:56 huginn` xekhz: Error: No such location could be found.
13:56 xekhz @wunder portugal
13:56 drojf the weather thingy is a little weird
13:55 drojf heh
13:55 xekhz baaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
13:55 huginn` xekhz: Error: No such location could be found.
13:55 xekhz @wunder lisbon, portugal
13:55 drojf warm, but almost dark
13:54 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 20.0°C (3:50 PM CEST on July 13, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
13:54 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
13:53 huginn` xekhz: Error: No such location could be found.
13:53 xekhz @wunder london
13:53 huginn` xekhz: Error: No such location could be found.
13:53 xekhz @wunder lisbon
13:53 huginn` xekhz: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on July 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
13:53 xekhz @wunder boo
13:52 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on July 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
13:52 magnuse @wunder boo
13:50 drojf hi #koha
13:34 cait xekhz: thx for reporting
13:28 huginn` 04Bug 14527: normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , zebra error 114 when searching for items added before or after a specific date
13:28 xekhz http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14527
13:25 xekhz thanks for the help
13:25 xekhz bug reported
13:17 Joubu k
13:06 nengard hiya marcelr and magnuse
13:06 magnuse ¡hola nengard!
12:56 marcelr hi nengard
12:54 nengard_afk morning all
12:53 tcohen heh
12:52 marcelr tochen i even left out what are you doing here LOL
12:51 marcelr heh
12:51 tcohen marcelr: thanks for the kind welcome message :D
12:51 cait and a full inbox after vacation has a similar effect :)
12:51 marcelr cait++
12:50 wahanui holds are made to sell more aspirin
12:50 cait holds?
12:50 cait holds are made to sell more aspirin
12:50 marcelr holds?
12:50 wahanui cait: I forgot hold
12:50 cait forget hold
12:50 wahanui marcelr: I forgot holds
12:50 marcelr wahanui forget holds
12:50 wahanui i think hold is complete
12:50 cait hold?
12:50 cait i taught you differently!
12:50 cait hah
12:50 wahanui holds is fun :)
12:50 cait holds?
12:50 wahanui holds is fun :)
12:50 cait holds?
12:50 wahanui i think holds is fun :)
12:50 cait holds?
12:50 wahanui holds is fun :)
12:50 cait holds?
12:49 marcelr holds are terrible
12:49 wahanui rumour has it holds is fun :)
12:49 tcohen holds?
12:49 marcelr holds
12:49 tcohen hola marcelr
12:49 wahanui yes, marcelr?
12:49 marcelr wahanui
12:49 marcelr holds
12:48 marcelr nice introduction :)
12:48 marcelr hola tcohen
12:24 tcohen hi fellows
12:21 cait hola tcohen
12:21 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
11:58 xekhz thanks
11:55 cait bugs.koha-community.org is the one
11:55 cait hm that was not the link i was lookign for :)
11:55 wahanui bugs is http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/44776341195/bug-reports-after-a-new-release
11:55 cait bugs?
11:55 cait you could also file a bug
11:54 xekhz ok
11:53 cait wahanui: is a bot, don't let him irritate you
11:53 xekhz and no errors
11:53 wahanui warnings are nothing to worry about.
11:53 xekhz warnings...
11:53 xekhz no wornings
11:52 cait if there are any warns or errors showing there
11:52 cait ah, one think you can check: on the about page - system information
11:52 xekhz never touched zebra conf
11:52 xekhz no,
11:52 cait did you change the zebra configuration?
11:52 xekhz yes
11:51 cait in opac and staff?
11:51 cait is your normal search working?
11:51 xekhz it passes the framework test, but im afraid that i could have deleted a critical marc record related to the zebra search
11:50 xekhz but i am not sure if my marc struture e ok.
11:50 xekhz i will do it,
11:50 cait more people reading
11:50 cait you could try emailing the mailing list with your problem
11:49 cait we are ont using the labelmodule
11:49 cait it might be a bug, but i am not sure
11:48 xekhz nothing is returned to koha.
11:47 xekhz Search biblios ERROR 114 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=32 @attr 4=5 @attr 2=4 2015-07-13
11:46 cait magnuse: thx for confirming the bug
11:46 cait waht kind of error?
11:45 cait hm
11:44 xekhz ZEBRA always returns an error
11:44 xekhz but when i try to search using the calendar, option ADDED ON OR AFTER DATE.
11:44 xekhz in versio 3.20.01, when i try to add items to create labels, in NEW BATCH, i first do a search using label-item-search.pl if i only use the search item Title or any onther in that tab it works
11:41 xekhz i am using koha since version 3.08 and i had any major trouble until now.
11:40 xekhz thanks,
11:40 xekhz ok,
11:40 cait xekhz: just ask, if someone knows they will answer
11:40 cait Joubu: that seems to make sense
11:32 xekhz to ask ?
11:32 xekhz ppl, i need some help with my koha .. is this the the palce ?
11:32 wahanui hola, xekhz
11:32 xekhz hello
10:42 Joubu I don't know where the magic is, but new CGI->cookie('KohaOpacLanguage'); does the trick (???)
10:39 * rangi goes to bed
10:37 rangi not what the user has chosen
10:37 Joubu ha no
10:37 rangi thats what the browser has set as its languages
10:35 Joubu ha $ENV{HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE}!
10:34 cait lunch time
10:32 cait i guess there is no routine then to find out
10:32 Joubu yes but I need it at the module level
10:32 cait or the code for the language chooser, as it displays the chosen language differently
10:31 Joubu the $template has the info, it's good if you need to use it from the pl script, but what about the modules? :-/
10:31 cait but that's quite old
10:31 cait i am thinking of where we check that - maybe the code for the news?
10:31 cait hmm
10:31 Joubu It seems we need 1/ the CGI object and 2/ browse the FS
10:30 Joubu Is there any easy way to know which language is selected on the interface?
10:27 drojf later #koha
10:27 drojf [off] lousy east german autonbahn. can't work here
10:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14524 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Result list RSS feed broken
10:25 cait bug 14524
10:24 drojf *email
10:24 drojf it's not a huge patch i think, i rebased the emnail encryption patch
10:23 drojf yes. but maybe related to bus wifi. will try at home
10:22 cait drojf: latest fishsoup?
10:21 rangi thats an old one, big patch?
10:19 drojf git-bz gives me "413 Request Entity Too Large" now
10:06 drojf sorry, on a bus. not recently, afair
10:06 cait they don't work for me
10:00 cait did you test the result list rss feeds by chane?
10:00 cait morning drojf
09:57 cait hm is it possible we broke the rss feeds for the result list?
09:46 cait jajm: thx!
09:34 jajm cait, i rebased branch ft/bug_13323 and updated sandbox 17
09:22 cait huh?
09:09 magnuse ooh, nice new way to do MARC: 1!*!10!*!245!*!10!*!$aAktuellt i biståndspolitiken
08:43 cait heh
08:43 magnuse cait: just disable javascript ;-)
08:39 cait is there a trick to turn of search highlighting in the staff interface?
08:17 jajm cait, sure, i'll check that
08:17 cait i wanted to check first if the branch still applies on current master, maybe you coudl check?
08:17 cait I will try to ask around on the qa team for some help this week
08:16 cait i had planned to look at those for ages :(
08:13 jajm or if something is preventing the QA to pass
08:12 jajm it remains only 3 signed off bugs (13321 13323 13324) and i was wondering if you have planned to look at those
08:11 jajm hello cait, i have heard that you are the QA specialist of the VAT rewrite :)
08:10 cait which means answers might take a bit :) what's up?
08:08 cait kind of
08:08 cait kid of
08:07 jajm cait around ?
07:57 * Joubu doesn't understand why the browser didn't refresh correctly...
07:57 rangi cool
07:57 Joubu yes, display: inline;
07:56 rangi hopefully it will come right
07:56 rangi ahh cached css im guessing
07:55 Joubu I switched to private mode and it works
07:55 Joubu ha!
07:54 Joubu I still don't see any changes
07:54 Joubu hum... no
07:54 rangi working better now?
07:53 Joubu ha back
07:53 Joubu "Internal Server Error" :)
07:53 Joubu oops
07:52 * rangi tries again
07:52 rangi that creates new ones, so that any changes arent cached
07:51 rangi then run checksetup.pl
07:51 rangi you have to edit global.css
07:51 rangi ive figured it out
07:51 rangi yeah
07:50 Joubu rangi: different css files for the same page?
07:49 rangi hey paul_p
07:49 rangi which is why you were seeing no changes, when i was Joubu
07:49 paul_p 'night rangi
07:49 paul_p 'morning magnuse
07:49 rangi yep, there are a bunch of different css files
07:49 magnuse kia ora paul_p
07:47 magnuse hiya ashimema
07:47 Joubu .bz_comment_text span.quote {color: #65379c;white-space: pre;overflow: auto;display: block;}
07:47 rangi ill track down all the places to change it
07:46 rangi grumble
07:46 rangi thats the problem
07:46 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/data/assets/54486398487c111ba3305277d0702e66.css
07:46 Joubu <link href="data/assets/7aa6ea67750936a0368541421bdcd5ee.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
07:46 cait morning ashimema
07:45 rangi and paste the url of the css
07:45 rangi can yuo view source
07:45 Joubu don't see any changes
07:44 rangi hi ashimema
07:44 rangi is it any better now?
07:43 ashimema morning
07:43 Joubu yes!
07:42 rangi if so, then ill edit it a different way
07:42 rangi you did a shift-refresh to get the new css eh? :)
07:42 rangi righto
07:41 Joubu rangi: yes there are still the scrollbars
07:41 rangi ill try somethign else if so
07:41 marcelr hi #koha
07:40 rangi do you still need to scroll ?
07:40 Joubu Not a big change imo
07:39 rangi (i just removed the fixed width)
07:39 Joubu :)
07:39 Joubu What's the difference? :
07:38 rangi better or worse?
07:38 huginn` 04Bug 10988: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, vanoudt, Signed Off , Allow login via Google OAuth2
07:38 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10988#c31
07:34 rangi ill try something
07:34 Joubu they should have let this change as an option
07:34 Joubu rangi: yep you should. I really don't like the "display: block" style on the quotes
07:32 magnuse paperwork--
07:29 rangi i think ill just make the changes in the css to switch the comments back to the previous behaviour
07:26 AmitG Joubu it's done
07:20 AmitG hi Joubu
07:19 Joubu AmitG: could you link it with the one for itemtype?
07:19 gaetan_B hello
07:19 rangi i think the rest api would make some of the things the sandboxes do easier too
07:18 rangi cool, you can read more of the features there
07:18 Joubu yep
07:18 magnuse rangi: yup
07:17 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/page.cgi?id=release-notes.html <-- can you see that?
07:17 cait bugzilla++
07:17 huginn` AmitG: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14520 major, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Needs Signoff , Prevent to override the existing currency code.
07:17 AmitG @bug 14520
07:17 cait cool new features
07:16 rangi is interesting too
07:16 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/duplicates.cgi
07:16 cait quite hidden at the bottom in a text link in the past
07:16 rangi yep
07:16 Joubu now you have a link on the result list
07:16 rangi little icons across the bottom
07:16 Joubu ha, didn't know
07:15 cait cool :)
07:15 rangi its a lot easier now
07:15 cait i have done it a few times :)
07:15 cait hm I think that worked before
07:15 Joubu rangi: One very useful feature of the v.5 is the ability to export a result list to csv
07:14 cait yep
07:14 rangi than screen scraping ;)
07:14 rangi that seems a lot better
07:14 Joubu whaou small fix, well done
07:14 rangi http://bugzilla.readthedocs.org/en/latest/api/core/v1/attachment.html
07:13 rangi http://bugzilla.readthedocs.org/en/latest/api/index.html#apis
07:13 rangi some day ill rewrite it in perl6 and using the rest api
07:12 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/rest/bug/8022
07:12 cait rangi++ :)
07:12 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/rest/version
07:12 rangi grabbing html and doing regex over it is a really fragile way to do things
07:11 Joubu :)
07:11 rangi everytime i touch git-bz ... im suprised it doesnt break more
07:11 rangi salright, i fixed it already :)
07:09 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:09 Joubu @later tell rangi "Paste not found." :)
07:09 dcook Ciao for now
07:09 dcook Yep, 2016 might be a bit more easygoing
07:09 dcook laters magnuse, reiveune
07:09 kivilahtio dcook: next year :)
07:09 dcook Good luck!
07:09 dcook :)
07:08 dcook I haven't had time to test anyone's stuff but I recall doing that sometimes
07:08 kivilahtio dcook: I knoiw :)
07:08 dcook You can always try trading signoffs with someone
07:08 kivilahtio have fun!
07:08 kivilahtio I just hope somebody could sign off something
07:08 dcook Gotta make pizza for my wife :)
07:08 dcook I have to go too
07:08 dcook kivilahtio++
07:06 kivilahtio anyway, gotta go coding
07:06 kivilahtio and Throws an Exception if any of those subtests fails
07:06 kivilahtio this autmatically creates two tests for you
07:06 kivilahtio my $mainpage = t::lib::Page::Mainpage->new(); $mainpage->isPasswordLoginAvailable()->doPasswordLogin('admin', '1234');
07:05 kivilahtio not sure if i shared one of the PageObject-pattern tests, but it goes like this
07:04 dcook :D
07:03 kivilahtio so if you add a new route, yours test sstart failing unless you provide a suroutine to test each response for the REST route
07:03 kivilahtio dcook: sorry, I havent shared the TestRunner. It runs all tests based on the Swagger2-configuration
07:03 Joubu morning #koha
07:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13691 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Add some selenium scripts
07:02 kivilahtio Bug 13691 - PageObjectPattern implementation.
07:02 kivilahtio Bug 14495
07:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14495 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , WebDriver/WebTester Factory for easy generation of Web testing UserAgents.
07:02 kivilahtio Bug 14495
07:01 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:01 kivilahtio I have a patch already
07:01 * dcook perks up at the sounds of automated tests and REST API
07:01 reiveune salut dcook magnuse
07:01 kivilahtio I thought I don't need to, but...
07:01 kivilahtio now I am refactoring permissions sytem to drive automated integration tests for the REST API :)
07:00 dcook salut reiveune
07:00 reiveune hello
07:00 kivilahtio damn
07:00 dcook I would love some REST too
07:00 dcook hehe
07:00 kivilahtio dcook: I need some REST
07:00 dcook Perhaps I can grow an extra head and an extra set of hands for the next few months :p
07:00 dcook magnuse: me too
06:57 magnuse i hope things slow down a little bit after august
06:57 magnuse well, i hope to get back to testing
06:56 * magnuse too
06:56 * dcook is going to be crazy busy for the rest of 2015 he thinks
06:56 dcook One of these days I'll get back to testing
06:56 magnuse :-)
06:56 dcook magnuse :P
06:56 dcook Sent in one patch, updated another... wonder if I can rebase one in 4 minutes..
06:56 magnuse dcook: sign off something?
06:56 dcook There were a few things I was trying to remember to do
06:56 dcook Well, only 4 minutes now ;)
06:55 magnuse dcook: sign off something?
06:42 dcook I've already had a long day!
06:42 dcook :p
06:42 dcook Lesse I have 18 minutes... what all am I supposed to fix..
06:42 magnuse yeah, rub it in!
06:41 dcook Nearly home time, my good man!
06:41 dcook :p
06:41 magnuse it is morning! ;-)
06:40 dcook Shows me for only checking in the morning!
06:40 dcook Ahh, beat that
06:40 magnuse dcook: rangi sent an email to the list
06:40 dcook Oh, I missed 'er
06:39 dcook That's what I was on already. Looks like I was behind 3 commmits
06:38 wahanui fishsoup branch is much nicer anyway.
06:38 cait fishsoup branch
06:38 * dcook tries to remember where he put it now..
06:38 dcook I'll give that a shot
06:38 dcook Ahh, cool beans
06:38 cait you need to pull the latest version
06:37 cait i thin he already fixed it
06:37 dcook So dunno what's up with the first time but it does work eventually
06:37 dcook rangi: Btw, today with git bz, I've tried "git bz attach -e" twice in a row, and the second time always works..
06:31 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 25.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on July 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
06:31 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:28 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on July 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
06:28 magnuse @wunder boo
06:23 * magnuse waves
06:22 cait morning #koha
04:40 * dcook wanders off
04:40 dcook (Way past) time for chow...
03:45 AmitG hi Chris
03:30 rangi hi AmitG
03:26 AmitG hi all
03:23 * dcook suddenly realizes that he sounds like a total tool
03:22 dcook Ick... html in the perl script..
03:22 dcook And the paging doesn't look like it works for local use..
03:22 dcook "Only"
03:22 dcook Hmm.. looks like you can only have 100 sysprefs per page...
03:18 Francesca def.
03:18 dcook Winter is the worst :/
03:17 Francesca instead they find blankets, pillows, boxes or people to sleep in/on
03:16 Francesca but theres no heater for them lie in front of
03:16 Francesca mine complain as well
03:16 Francesca hahaha
03:15 dcook Mine are little whingers. They lay right in front of the space heater :p
03:15 Francesca the cold never bothers them
03:14 Francesca My cats have just come in, found a nice patch of sunny floor and gone to sleep
03:12 Francesca lucky them
03:12 dcook Even better :D
03:12 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Pat Acre Estates (CodeChaser), Tampa, Florida is 25.2°C (10:57 PM EDT on July 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
03:12 dcook @wunder tpa
03:11 dcook That'd be all right about now..
03:11 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Burkeville, Richmond, British Columbia is 20.1°C (8:10 PM PDT on July 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
03:11 dcook @wunder yvr
03:11 dcook :)
03:08 Francesca lucky
03:08 Francesca dcook: warmer where you are then
03:08 Francesca yay there we go
03:07 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (3:00 PM NZST on July 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
03:07 Francesca @wunder wlg
03:07 Francesca ok that didn't work....
03:07 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in BeeGeeR, Welkom, South Africa is 7.2°C (5:04 AM SAST on July 13, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 26.56 in 899.3 hPa (Steady).
03:07 Francesca @wunder wel
03:06 dcook I complain about the cold and it's not even that bad here
03:06 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (1:00 PM AEST on July 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
03:06 dcook @wunder syd
03:06 dcook Certainly doesn't sound like a fun time :(
03:06 Francesca it got really cold here and only snowed a bit in karori
03:05 Francesca I really hate winter
03:02 Francesca hahaha nice
03:02 dcook Actually my wife just started up uni again, so I totally cheated on that one...
03:02 * dcook is finally figuring out Oceanic academic calendars!
03:00 Francesca just started again today
03:00 dcook A few weeks ago that is?
03:00 dcook Start of a new term?
02:59 Francesca I just got home from uni
02:59 Francesca cool
02:59 dcook Just found a SQL injection bug, I believe :)
02:58 Francesca sup dcook
02:58 * dcook waves
02:58 * Francesca waves
02:55 dcook Let's see what mischief I can get up to with this...
02:53 dcook Interesting... might have just found a security bug..
02:35 wizzyrea general distaste.
02:35 dcook Well... hate it "more"
02:35 dcook wizzyrea: Why do you hate it today?
02:34 dcook It's a dirty job, and I don't want to do it :p
02:33 dcook ^
02:31 wizzyrea I don't want anyone to have to be an IE expert. That makes me sad.
02:30 wahanui I was trapped in a maze of twisty, turny passages, all alike.
02:30 eythian wahanui: welcome back
02:30 rangi should be safe(ish) to bring it back now
02:30 eythian anyway, wahanui would have told you that dcook is an IE expert, I think.
02:29 eythian wah<TAB>....damn
02:29 wizzyrea IE. I hate you.