Time  Nick        Message
00:00 pianohacker liz++
00:00 pianohacker liz: out of curiosity, how did you find out about the input event?
00:01 liz         well, I wanted to know what all of the events were, so i looked them up :P
00:01 pianohacker heh, fair enough. Do you have a link?
00:02 liz         yeah, I think it was w3c but gimme a sec
00:02 liz         it wasn't this page, but it is here, it's html5
00:03 liz         http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_eventattributes.asp
00:03 pianohacker thanks
00:03 liz         http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_eventattributes.asp this'll be the link
00:03 liz         er no
00:04 liz         http://help.dottoro.com/larrqqck.php
00:04 pianohacker ooh that's nice
00:04 liz         yeah :)
00:04 pianohacker liz++
00:04 pianohacker wahanui: js events is http://help.dottoro.com/larrqqck.php
00:04 wahanui     OK, pianohacker.
00:51 eythian     that is the least rememberable URL I've seen.
00:51 mtompset    eythian: What URL?
00:51 wahanui     URL is horrid :)
00:51 eythian     wahanui: irc logs
00:51 wahanui     irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
02:46 mtj         hey eythian, abouty?
02:46 eythian     yep
02:46 mtj         hiya
02:46 eythian     hallo
03:00 IvanMex     Hello!!
03:17 mtompset    @seen khall
03:17 huginn      mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 1 day, 9 hours, 3 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <khall> at least I think so, I'd have to double check
03:17 mtompset    @later tell khall Could you rebase bug 11405?
03:17 huginn      mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:18 mtompset    @seen Joubu
03:18 huginn      mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 54 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <Joubu> I am not sure it's a good idea to skip tests
03:19 mtompset    @later tell Joubu Could you rebase 9006?
03:19 huginn      mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:20 mtompset    eythian: Think you might be able to fit in a rebase of bug 11998? :)
03:20 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Patch doesn't apply , Syspref caching issues
03:21 eythian     not this week.
03:22 mtompset    Right... It's Friday there already. :)
03:23 eythian     it's 35 minutes away from beer o'clock, not that I'm counting.
03:24 mtompset    It's always beer o'clock in some timezone. :P
03:25 mtompset    I should go to sleep.
03:26 mtompset    Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
03:33 eythian     http://iworkatapubliclibrary.com/post/102878052727/alpacas-biscuits-and <-- exhibit A
03:33 eythian     http://iworkatapubliclibrary.com/post/119721821167/remember-this-post-about-a-man-who-phoned-to-ask <-- exhibit B
03:43 liz         eythian++
03:43 liz         librarians++
03:45 IvanMex     HELLO
03:46 eythian     ollǝH
03:48 AmitG       hi eythian
04:14 IvanMex     Hola!
04:15 IvanMex     hello!!
04:24 cdickinson  eythian, rangi, wizzyrea: http://i.imgur.com/U0PAyfn.png - it's.... alive!!!
04:33 IvanMex     alguien me puede ayudar
05:49 * magnuse   waves
06:15 magnuse     kia ora cait
06:21 magnuse     moin drojf
06:21 magnuse     namoshkaar indradg
06:22 indradg     hei magnuse :)
06:25 magnuse     :-)
06:25 drojf       hei magnuse
06:25 * drojf     is still sleeping
06:27 * cait      too
06:27 * indradg   just woke up
06:29 * magnuse   has been up for 2 hours
06:42 reiveune    hello
06:42 wahanui     kia ora, reiveune
07:02 alex_a      bonjour
07:24 cait        hi all
07:31 Joubu       Hey #ha
07:31 Joubu       hum...
07:32 Joubu       #koha
07:37 gaetan_B    hello
08:03 bag         night night
09:20 mveron      Hi #koha
09:25 drojf       hi mveron :)
09:25 * drojf     wanders off to make cola
09:25 mveron      hi drojf :-)
09:26 mveron      @wunder Allschwil
09:26 huginn      mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 19.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on June 19, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
09:31 AmitG       @bug14382
09:31 huginn      AmitG: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
09:31 AmitG       @bug 14382
09:31 huginn      AmitG: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14382 major, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Needs Signoff , datepicker's dateFormat setting for reports is missing
09:32 Joubu       https://www.xkcd.com/327/
09:35 magnuse     @wunder boo
09:35 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on June 19, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
09:35 magnuse     double digits!
09:36 magnuse     Joubu: lol!
09:36 magnuse     would that work in koha?
09:36 Joubu       magnuse: ho yes :)
09:36 Joubu       actually not a drop table
09:46 cait        drojf: make cola?
09:50 AmitG       alex_a_ around
09:50 AmitG       ?
09:53 alex_a__    AmitG: meeting
09:58 drojf       cait: yes. want some? :)
09:59 drojf       beware, it turned out pretty sweet this time
09:59 cait        i just never heard of making cola yourself :)
10:00 drojf       cait: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_%28drink%29 i would not recommend the recipe, it tastes more like haribo colaflaschen. but it's a start to play around with it
10:02 cait        no thx :)
10:04 drojf       [off] i'm probably on some terror list now, because i asked a pharmacy about small quantities of phosphoric acid for the cola. they never answered
10:07 cait        someone any hints about getting a mysql query log turned on on debian?
10:07 cait        i am trying but failing
10:07 cait        ... and i need to for qa
10:10 indradg     cait: what are you doing that's not working?
10:13 cait        the files are not created and the files in /var/log/mysql* stay empty
10:13 cait        i tried uncommenting in my.cnf  - the general_log entries
10:13 cait        also tried adding a log = entry
10:13 cait        and restarted mysql
10:14 indradg     what I do when i want temporary login for a bit is "SET GLOBAL general_log = 'ON';"
10:14 cait        i tried that too
10:14 cait        where shoudl that log to?
10:15 indradg     /var/log/mysql/mysql.log
10:15 drojf       do you have a general_log_file entry?
10:15 cait        hm there is something let me see
10:16 indradg     as specified by 'general_log_file        = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log' in my.cnf
10:17 cait        yes, that looks better - thx
10:17 cait        !
10:24 cait        i realized my mistake :)
10:24 cait        there is also a mysql.log in var/log
10:24 cait        now all good
10:24 cait        is there a good way to empty out the log?
10:25 cait        or waht's the best way
10:26 drojf       delete the file maybe?
10:26 cait        that cauased trouble last time
10:26 drojf       then… don't :)
10:27 drojf       move th eold one, create an empty one and see if that works?
10:28 cait        never mind, it works with deleting... *sigh*
10:29 cait        I think the trick might be restarting mysql
10:32 drojf       could you restart your private chat window? i think it's broken too :)
10:34 cait        drojf: ?
11:39 alex_a_     AmitG: i'm back
12:15 AmitG       alex_a around?
12:15 alex_a      AmitG: yep
12:15 alex_a      meeting over :)
12:15 alex_a      lunch over
12:16 alex_a      i'm ok !
12:16 AmitG       ;)
12:16 AmitG       have you seen @bug 6810
12:16 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Send membership expiry reminder notices
12:16 AmitG       Katrin Fischer comment
12:17 * cait      hides
12:19 alex_a      cait: :)
12:19 alex_a      AmitG: I've seen
12:20 alex_a      Think this should be discussed
12:20 alex_a      discuss....ed ?
12:20 alex_a      we need to talk about :)
12:20 cait        we have moved some of the cronjob parameters to prefs quite recently
12:20 AmitG       yes
12:21 cait        i'd agree a separate tool would be nice... but I don't have a problem with prefs :)
12:21 alex_a      fridolin suggest a script parameter, and cait a syspref. Actually we have a sysprf
12:21 AmitG       but days is hardcoded
12:22 cait        hm
12:22 cait        the days when one is send as a reminder?
12:22 cait        we have a pref there already for when we show the warning in the opac and ins taff... coudl we use the existing one?
12:22 alex_a      AmitG: no days come from MembershipExpiryDaysNotice
12:22 AmitG       sorry i m looking wrong one ;)
12:23 alex_a      :)
12:26 fridolin    its not a big deal, just my2c
12:32 cait        around?
12:32 cait        meaning Joubu
12:42 tcohen      morning
12:43 tcohen      @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:43 huginn      tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 4.7°C (9:40 AM ART on June 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028 hPa (Rising).
12:45 nengard     @wunder 78754
12:45 huginn      nengard: The current temperature in University Hills, Austin, Texas is 24.1°C (7:44 AM CDT on June 19, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:45 tcohen      already?
12:45 cait        hi tcohen :)
12:45 cait        hope you had a nice day yesterday!
12:46 tcohen      cait: I did!
12:46 tcohen      I ran out of jaeger!
12:46 cait        omg!
12:46 tcohen      it means we drunk it all heh
12:48 magnuse     tcohen: belated congratulations!
12:49 tcohen      thanks magnuse
12:50 mtompset    I just found a typo in the updatedatabase.pl :(
12:51 mtompset    3.07.00.030
12:51 mtompset    preference call.
12:52 mtompset    line 5010.
12:52 Joubu       tcohen: It is still your birthday today? :)
12:53 tcohen      you still have 7 minutes, yes
12:53 tcohen      i was born at 10 am
12:53 tcohen      so, yes
12:59 tcohen      Joubu: one minute left
13:00 Joubu       Happy birthday tcohen
13:00 Joubu       arg, too late
13:06 mtompset    Did you want to be the person to greet him last on his birthday, Joubu? :)
13:06 khall       happy birthday tochen!
13:06 mtompset    syspref?
13:06 wahanui     well, syspref is only there, so people can switch to zebra
13:06 mtompset    syspref?
13:06 wahanui     syspref is probably only there, so people can switch to zebra
13:07 mtompset    sysprefs?
13:07 wahanui     rumour has it sysprefs is one
13:07 mtompset    wahanui... I want the 'syspref everything' meme photo!
13:14 magnuse     have fun, #koha!
13:27 cait        khall: around?
13:27 khall       yo
13:27 cait        oh good
13:27 cait        i will send you a pm
13:28 khall       k
13:37 * mtompset  grumbles about creating a test plan.
13:37 mtompset    How do I properly test bug 14422?!
13:37 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14422 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, ASSIGNED , Typographical error in updatedatabase.pl
13:38 drojf       test plans are even greater than sysprefs :P
13:38 mtompset    The problem is in 3.7's updates.
13:39 mtompset    3.6.x doesn't work, because the problematic issue was introduced in 3.8
13:39 mtompset    And I need to upgrade through 3.7 with the feature existing.
13:40 mtompset    oh wait... evil hack idea...
13:42 mtompset    Nope... back to thinking. :(
13:43 cait        tcohen: are you ignoring me today? :)
13:45 drojf       mtompset: do you mean the problem does not exist in real life?
13:45 mtompset    No, it only exists on an upgrade from a really old master. ;)
13:46 mtompset    But I think I may have it existing from 3.6.x
13:46 mtompset    Just testing this idea.
13:47 drojf       i'd assume that a patch and "open the file, check that the typo is gone, only this one line touched" would be enough of a test plan in such a case :)
13:48 drojf       especially if you have to spend valuable time to come up with a test case because there is hardly any in the real world
13:48 mtompset    drojf: You would think so, but sometimes cait wants it from the gui or commandline. :P
13:48 cait        it depends on the error and the patch
13:49 cait        if a problem can't be made visible at all i am getting suspicious at times
13:49 mtompset    Well, I found the visible case for you, cait on this new bug. :P
13:49 drojf       the problem does hardly exist in this case, as far as i understand it
13:49 mtompset    No, any upgrades from prior to 3.8.x will have this problem. :)
13:49 drojf       an upgrade from old master and changing a default is not really something that will happen to a library using koha live
13:50 drojf       and a dev will survive it ;)
13:50 cait        hm we index the whole 245 into the title index
13:50 cait        also @marc 245c
13:50 cait        @marc 245$c
13:50 huginn      cait: unknown tag 245$c
13:50 cait        @marc 245 c
13:50 huginn      cait: Statement of responsibility, etc.
13:50 drojf       we index a lot of weird stuff ;) i think there is still a patch from me somewhere for another field
13:51 * mtompset  grins, "And now you want to know who is responsible for that?"
13:51 cait        nah
13:51 cait        i just have the second library complaining
13:51 * drojf     blames mtompset
13:51 Joubu       tcohen: Koha::Import::Borrowers vs Koha::Borrowers::Import : Which one make more sense to you?
13:51 cait        and ia mnot sure if it's a feature or a bug
13:51 Joubu       context: bug 12598
13:51 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12598 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , New misc/import_borrowers.pl command line tool
13:51 cait        difficult question
13:51 mtompset    drojf: Are we going to get into a negative karma war again? :P
13:52 drojf       Joubu: are we going to do more other things related to borrowers or more other things related to import? ;)
13:52 mtompset    Joubu: wouldn't the latter make more sense in terms of OBJECTs?
13:52 drojf       mtompset: heh. you'll never forget that :P
13:52 Joubu       the thing is that you can imagine a Koha::Import to put some stuffs to import "objects"
13:54 mtompset    Do we have any other Koha::{action}s?
13:55 mtompset    And wouldn't Koha::Import have methods which Koha::{object}::Import could implement?
13:55 Joubu       we have Koha::List::Patron
13:56 cait        hm yeah, but there was also a discussion
13:56 cait        fi that shoudl have been Koha::Patron::List
13:56 cait        oh
13:56 cait        good point
13:56 cait        we shoudl use Patron
13:56 cait        not Borrower
13:56 drojf       ha
13:56 cait        for the new namespace
13:56 Joubu       cait: khall uses Patron
13:56 cait        no matter the sequence
13:56 cait        ah
13:56 Joubu       but... There is a Koha::Borrower
13:56 Joubu       it does not make sense to have Koha::Borrower and Koha::Patron
13:57 mtompset    Agreed, we need naming consistency.
13:57 khall       yep, we should start using Patron instead of borrower or member in the code
13:57 khall       Eventually I'll change the namespace of Koha::Borrower to Koha::Patron
13:57 drojf       member *giggles* *hides*
13:57 mtompset    And actually, isn't "List" an object? like 'cart' 'shelves' 'list'...
13:58 mtompset    Negative karama! Negative karma! :P
13:58 Joubu       khall: What about starting a troll^W discussion on koha-devel?
13:59 Joubu       it would be good to have an overview, to know where we want to put stuffs in the Koha namespace
13:59 mtompset    Start it in koha so we can find out what Paul A thinks. ;)
13:59 Joubu       (after it has been created for 2 years...)
13:59 khall       we've had this discussion before, but I don't know if anything was ever formalized. I would agree to that
14:00 Joubu       khall: I hope we will see some good ideas/discussions. It's an important topic
14:00 drojf       [off] off to buy a new wifi router for my mum, so i'll have a nice work^play weekend setting up openwrt again. later #koha
14:00 cait        omg we already created a mess in the new namespace... didn't we?
14:01 khall       not too badly ; )
14:01 Joubu       yes...
14:01 khall       just a bit
14:01 Joubu       that's it, just a bit ;)
14:01 cait        i think we couldalso include that in the api discussion
14:01 Joubu       we need a wiki page
14:01 cait        we have the same/similar problems there actually
14:01 cait        the sample patches using issue for checkout, borrower and reserve i think
14:02 cait        we got a dev meeting next week - agenda is up on thw wiki :)
14:02 Joubu       yes but we need a discussion on koha-devel before the meeting (otherwise... you know...)
14:03 cait        feel free to do both
14:03 cait        also a reminder about the api meeting would be good if you can mention that
14:03 cait        and encourage people to put question notes on the wiki?
14:03 cait        or the mailing list, but we need to prepare a bit i think or the meeting will get chaotic too )
14:05 tcohen      hi cait
14:05 Joubu       Do we have a wiki page for the terminology?
14:07 cait        no but we shoudl have one i think
14:08 cait        branch/library vendor/bookseller... all this stuff
14:10 tcohen      brach != library, right?
14:11 cait        in koha we use library - more general
14:11 cait        becuse branch indicates soem kind of hierarchy - and that doesn't work for very independent libraries
14:12 cait        at least that's how i remember the discussion about the naming in the gui
14:22 Joubu       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology what I missed?
14:25 cait        i think notice
14:25 cait        and a missing ) at the very end :)
14:25 cait        but I think you got everything else i coudl think of right now
14:25 cait        oh
14:26 cait        checkout vs. issue
14:26 cait        check-in vs. return
14:26 cait        editing
14:27 cait        done
14:30 Joubu       not sure to know why the page display is broken
14:30 Joubu       the left side is displayed at the bottom
14:30 Joubu       (search, link, nav, etc.)
14:40 bgkriegel   Joubu: Bugets?? (on Terminology page) :)
14:45 mtompset    bgkriegel: I fixed the typo. :P
14:45 bgkriegel   Great mtompset !!
14:46 Joubu       hehe :) thanks
14:47 mtompset    Added slips into the notice line too. :)
14:50 cait        mtompset: we got slips too - the ones for circ
14:51 vfernandes  hi guys :)
14:51 cait        meant for printing at the circ station
14:51 mtompset    cait: So you distinguish between them?
14:51 cait        yes
14:51 cait        well th interface does
14:52 mtompset    Should we?
14:52 cait        i think so
14:52 cait        checkout slip and checkout notice are 2 different things in koha
14:52 vfernandes  it's possible to import the CSV file generated by export_borrowers.pl script?
14:52 mtompset    I'll let someone else fix that...
14:53 mtompset    I want to get this stupid tiny patch tested and ready for indradg to sign off. :P
14:56 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13993: DBRev 3.21.00.009 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a80d188c83be6131c9274a29c5dcc03893c9e617> / Bug 13993: Clarify test messages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a712f5b7bad38cb9f5ad599fdb063cbe6e49c547> / Bug 13993: (3) Transfer order leaves incorrect orderstatus <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a810b1cf59fc0e44ca88b37
14:56 vfernandes  it's possible to import the CSV file generated by export_borrowers.pl script?
14:58 vfernandes  http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12598
14:58 huginn      04Bug 12598: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , New misc/import_borrowers.pl command line tool
15:00 mtompset    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 3.21.00.008 makes testing harder.
15:00 * mtompset  grumbles, "back to the drawing board AGAIN."
15:00 reiveune    bye
15:17 Joubu       khall: have you seen my comment on bug 14316?
15:17 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14316 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Clarify meaning of record number in Batch record deletion tool
15:18 khall       sorry, had a brain crash. Didn't read through the comments fully
15:18 khall       changing the status to in discussion
15:21 mtompset    okay. a perldoc typo in C4::Context is what category for bugs?
15:21 Ivan_mex    Hello, how I can update subfields in marcxml?
15:22 Ivan_mex    hola!
15:22 Joubu       mtompset: I'd say architecture, plumbing
15:23 Joubu       mtompset: wait, there is a "dev documentation"
15:24 Ivan_mex    how I can update subfields in marcxml to mysql?
15:26 Ivan_mex    Hello cait!!
15:30 bgkriegel   Ivan_mex: quieres actualizar directamente el campo marcxml en la base?
15:31 Ivan_mex    Si
15:31 Ivan_mex    la lo consigo con updateXML
15:31 Ivan_mex    Ya lo consigo con updateXML
15:31 Ivan_mex    pero sucede que tengo varios campos
15:32 Ivan_mex    <datafield tag="650" ind1="1" ind2="0">     <subfield code="a">Cropping systems</subfield>     <subfield code="9">1081</subfield>   </datafield>   <datafield tag="650" ind1="1" ind2="0">     <subfield code="a">Ethiopia</subfield>     <subfield code="9">964</subfield>   </datafield>   <datafield tag="650" ind1="1" ind2="0">     <subfield code="a">Plant breeding</subfield>     <subfield code="9">1216</subfield>
15:32 Ivan_mex    650
15:33 Ivan_mex    con UpdateXML(marcxml, '//datafield[@tag="650"]/subfield[@code="9"], concat ('<subfield>,'valor',</subfield>'));
15:33 Ivan_mex    logro pero cuando tengo más de un campo 650
15:34 Ivan_mex    no realiza el cambio para los demás
15:35 Ivan_mex    intente colocar esto '//datafield[@tag="650"]/subfield[@code="9"][*]  <--- el [*] me lo acepta cuando le pongo el indice y si lo aplica por ejemplo si le pongo 1 me actualiza el primer campo 650 subcampo 9
15:35 Ivan_mex    pero quiero que me lo aplique a todos los campos 650$0
15:35 bgkriegel   Ivan_mex: sigamos en privado, te he escrito
15:35 mtompset    Joubu: Eeewwwww.... look at git show a1fe32d2
15:35 Ivan_mex    ok
15:35 mtompset    (Hopefully that works for you, Joubu)
15:37 mtompset    Who is Joe Atzberger, and can I blame him for intentionally using autoloading? :)
15:38 Joubu       outch, quite an old one
15:39 mtompset    That's one of the one's I mentioned in comment 2 on bug 9006.
15:39 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9006 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , autoload in C4::Context is a bad idea
15:40 mtompset    I think that deserves a patch on the same bug, right, Joubu?
15:40 Joubu       ha yes, the ugly stuff
15:40 mtompset    (9006)
15:40 Joubu       I don't think so
15:40 Joubu       because my $sth=C4::Context->prepare($query);
15:40 Joubu       certainly does not work
15:41 Joubu       actually I think there is a bug for the checkdigit subroutine
15:43 * Joubu     does not find it
15:43 mtompset    my duplicate numbers may be generated one? :)
15:43 mtompset    bug 10454
15:43 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10454 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , Duplicate card numbers may be generated
15:44 mtompset    But probably not. :)
15:46 * mtompset  decides to go for lunch.
15:46 mtompset    I missed my morning break. :)
16:09 Mahdi       Hi. is there a way to quickly set MARC fields on a large number of catalogue items e.g. i want to change the subject of about 1000 books. can I write some kind of script to do it?
16:09 Ivan_mex    hello!
16:12 nengard     woo hoo first 3.20 help file patch submitted
16:12 nengard     finally I'm going to get this done
16:14 cait        Mahdi: in 3.20 you could use the batch record modification tool for this
16:14 cait        but it's new in 3.20
16:15 Ivan_mex    hello cait!
16:20 Mahdi       cait: thanks
16:26 gaetan_B    bye
16:26 Joubu       Have to go, have a good week-end #koha
17:04 mtompset    bgkriegel: bug 14422?
17:04 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14422 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Typographical error in updatedatabase.pl
17:05 mtompset    It's a little harder to test compared to 14425. :)
17:06 bgkriegel   about to sign... trying to cheat the test with a fake update :)
17:28 mtompset    tcohen: There's a KOHAVERSION in installer/install.pl
17:29 tcohen      in a comment?
17:29 mtompset    No.
17:29 mtompset    It was a ->KOHAVERSION
17:29 mtompset    The others were ::KOHAVERSION
17:29 mtompset    See comments on bug 9006
17:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9006 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , autoload in C4::Context is a bad idea
17:30 bgkriegel   mtompset: done
17:30 mtompset    Thanks, bgkriegel. Though, you are making my life difficult, because now I need to sign off more. :P
17:31 bgkriegel   hehe
17:31 tcohen      mtompset: are they related?
17:31 tcohen      ->KOHAVERSION is still valid
17:31 mtompset    No it isn't. I checked.
17:31 mtompset    I put die $kohaversion; into the code to see the output.
17:31 mtompset    drop db, create it.
17:31 mtompset    install 3.20.x
17:32 mtompset    reset to master.
17:32 mtompset    web installer with the die.
17:32 mtompset    blank $kohaversion.
17:32 mtompset    change it to Koha::version
17:32 wahanui     mtompset: that doesn't look right
17:33 mtompset    refresh page, correct koha version
17:33 tcohen      mtompset: I don't mind if you fill a bug a provide a patch for it
17:33 mtompset    I'll put it on bug 9006.
17:33 tcohen      i mean, i'd agree
17:33 tcohen      why make bugs so huge?
17:34 mtompset    because ->KOHAVERSION is effectively an autoload, isn't it?
17:36 tcohen      -.-
17:37 mtompset    I'm not sure what that face means.
17:37 mtompset    If it isn't an autoload, then sure another bug is fine with me.
17:38 tcohen      friday
17:38 tcohen      and I don't want to think is it is an AUTOLOAD
17:38 mtompset    okay... I'll do it as a see also.
17:42 tcohen      nengard: maybe you could fix the capitalization issues on 14424
17:42 * tcohen    was about to sign on it
17:45 nengard     tcohen - we've been through this before - I just copy from the manual and that means that capitalization doesn't really match the rules set forth for Koha because they were set after the manual started
17:45 nengard     I can fix it - but it will take a very long time for me to fix the entire manual to meet capitalization rules
17:45 nengard     :(
17:45 tcohen      ah ok
17:45 nengard     I think it's more important to get the help on there
17:45 nengard     personally
17:47 tcohen      ok
17:47 mtompset    footnote: capitalization may not be exact. :)
17:47 tcohen      mtompset: don't you think "Use Koha::version() instead of C4::Context->KOHAVERSION" is a better subject?
17:48 mtompset    done.
17:48 mtompset    title is irrelevant to me. Just want it fixed. :)
18:07 nengard     tcohen might have found a plugin for oxygen to change the case of all sentences in the manual - trying it now
18:08 tcohen      all of them?
18:08 * tcohen    is scared .-P
18:09 nengard     yuh huh
18:09 nengard     we'll see how it goes ....
18:09 nengard     it's still running - of course
18:09 nengard     if I can't find a tool to do it then the manual will stay as it is :) hehe
18:09 nengard     cause I'm not editing every line myself just for capitalization
18:25 nengard     oh wait - this is a bad idea - sys prefs have funny capitalization ...
18:29 tcohen      bye #koha
18:38 mtompset    nengard: You scared off tcohen. :P
18:39 nengard     yup :) hehe
18:48 wnickc      hmm..should there be some sort of limit on the number of results returned/displayed from the reservoir?  did a cataloging search for 'a' on our productin system , 150k+ results, was a bit overwhelming
19:00 bgkriegel   bye
19:31 barton|FIT  afternoon, #koha
19:35 barton|FIT  I've been working on bug 14324
19:35 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14324 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, ASSIGNED , "Add Child" button missing on moremember.pl
19:38 barton|FIT  I've written a patch for this, and the library who's helping me test is telling me that the "Add Child" button is showing up for borrower type "Organization" (i.e. "I") as well as for "Adult" ("A") ... sure enough, that's what we're testing for: ( $template->param( adultborrower => 1 ) ) if ( $category_type eq 'A' || $category_type eq 'I' );
19:39 barton|FIT  ... anyone have any idea why $category_type 'I' is being counted as an 'adultborrower' here?
19:40 nengard     that makes no sense ...
19:40 barton|FIT  see http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=members/moremember.pl;h=d448b918e31123982205273116216f1b7de4f1df;hb=HEAD#l174 ... the line in question is 194.
19:40 nengard     except maybe that I can have a P attached and A can have a C attached ...
19:43 cait        I think institution?
19:43 cait        maybe
19:44 barton|FIT  right ... so 'child' in this case is not so much a literal child as a dependent relationship.
19:44 cait        i'd say so
19:44 cait        maybe we could come up with a better label for the button
19:44 cait        buthaving the button itself seems not so wrong
19:45 barton|FIT  That makes sense -- you could even make the label context sensitive -- Adult => child, Organization => Professional Member
19:47 drojf       that would be a large button
19:47 drojf       and the german translation won't fit onscreen probably, like in other cases ;)
19:48 barton|FIT  well, at least it would all be one word... ;-)
19:49 drojf       lol true :D
19:54 barton|FIT  I just came up with "Professional Member" for the purposes of illustrating the context sensitive button... I'm sure that we could figure out something shorter.
19:55 cait        add... child record? :P
19:56 cait        i can't think today
19:56 barton|FIT  Perhaps Adult => 'Add Child', Organization => 'Add Member'
19:57 barton|FIT  'Mitgleid' is only two letters longer than 'Member' ;-)
19:58 cait        mitglied ;)
19:58 cait        but almost
19:59 cait        member would work i guess
19:59 cait        what do you think drojf?
19:59 barton|FIT  as regular as German spelling is, I still can't do it. ;-)
19:59 wnickc      hmm...I should install codespell?
20:00 drojf       sorry phone
20:00 barton|FIT  ircspell?
20:01 wnickc      qa-test-tools is failing me
20:01 wnickc      at knowing how to set it up
20:03 drojf       but "add member" is "mitglied hinzufügen" ;)
20:04 drojf       i think there is actually quite a lot of space for that button :)
20:08 barton|FIT  @later tell khall I assigned the mapleleaf ticket to you, since I was finally able to re-create it. If this is totally not your ballpark, I can take it back and create a community bug ticket for it.
20:08 huginn      barton|FIT: The operation succeeded.
20:11 barton|FIT  Bug 250
20:11 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=250 normal, P2, ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED FIXED, Parameters titled Catalogue
20:11 barton|FIT  Bug 2500
20:11 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2500 enhancement, P3, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED , Standing enhancement request for adding/updating call number splitting algorithms in C4/Labels.pm
20:13 barton|FIT  @seen chris_n
20:13 huginn      barton|FIT: chris_n was last seen in #koha 4 days, 4 hours, 54 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: * chris_n blinks and looks around
20:56 cdickinson  @wunder lower hutt
20:56 huginn      cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 10.5°C (8:50 AM NZST on June 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
23:48 liz         cdickinson++ :D
23:48 liz         (just spotted your imgur from yesterday)
23:49 cdickinson  yeah, I figured
23:49 liz         < wizzyrea, if that's not super clear
23:49 cdickinson  I figured that too :P
23:49 liz         :D yay
23:50 cdickinson  it's not perfect yet, at the moment it's using a local Zebra server rather than the remote one (though that should work fine...), and for some reason it times out every other page load, but I set it up after that and it seems to work all goods