Time Nick Message 22:53 drojf good night #koha 22:40 cait hi eythian - night eythian :) 22:37 eythian hi 21:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11441 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, juan.sieira, CLOSED FIXED, Ability to globally remove authorities with no bibliographic record linked. 21:53 cait bug 11441 21:52 cait i tlooks like there is a script to remove unused authorities 21:52 cait oh hm 21:52 cait the table is auth_headers... but be careful - really if you have used them/linked them here might be more to think about 21:50 mex_mex how to delete out the manual ones, what tables in the database? 21:46 rangi then you would just have to delete out the manual ones 21:46 rangi if you imported via the web interface, those ones you can revert 21:40 cait you could truncate the database table - that will remove then, you'd have to reindex - but if they are linked to records, those links will remain and get broken 21:39 mx_mex As I can eliminate all authorities Koha? imported authorities and recorded manually 21:38 mx_mex How can delete authorities all in koha? 21:37 mx_mex help! 21:36 rangi hi mx_mex 21:36 mx_mex hola, good morning 21:31 mx_mex Hello! 20:56 rangi you don't have shell on the machine dan_ ? it probably isn't still running, but that would be the only way to know for sure, also you could try doing a new import while running top and see when it stops and maybe what stopped it 20:54 rangi hi tcohen 20:54 dan_ But when I'm reviewing at /cgi-bin/koha/tools/manage-marc-import.pl?import_batch_id=52 looking for status of individual records, the first 850 records has 'Imported' status and the rest has 'Staged', and this doesn't change after several refreshs of the webpage 20:53 tcohen hi rangi 20:48 cait yep that could be 20:48 rangi sometimes the js gets confused and the progress bar stops, but the import is still running 20:48 rangi dan_: do you have shell on the server? run top, check if the process is still running 20:47 dan_ cait: I was using ISBN match but I don't think this is the cause. In manage-marc-import.pl the "job status" progress bar got stuck in 16% 20:33 barton|FIT 20:30 cait dan_: check your settings - did you tell it to import all records no matter if there is a match or not? 20:30 cait hm 20:26 dan_ Hello people, I need some help please: in /cgi-bin/koha/tools/manage-marc-import.pl I got stuck, it allowed to import only 850 records (of 5000 staged oned), what could be happening? 20:25 rangi morning 20:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2389 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , overdue_notices.pl needs a test mode 20:22 * barton|FIT goes off to look into how hard it would be to fix bug 2389 ... the hard part is determining if there are any side-effects that I'm not aware of... 20:20 barton|FIT misilot++ 20:15 barton|FIT ... test mode... that was it. 20:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2389 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , overdue_notices.pl needs a test mode 20:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12924 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, NEW , Replay advance_notices.pl-cronjob in history 20:13 misilot barton|FIT: bug 12924 or bug 2389 ? 20:09 barton|FIT anyone remember the bug? 20:09 barton|FIT I would like to run the script from the command line and see what would be queued, but I don't want to queue messages and I don't want to do debarments. 20:08 barton|FIT ahoy... there used to be a bug open with regard to overdue_notices.pl, with regard to the fact that there isn't a way to do a dry-run ... I can't see any open tickets about that, but maybe I'm not searching correctly. 18:14 mx_ivan cait 18:14 wahanui i think cait is looking for someone to qa the sip patches 18:14 mx_ivan cait? 18:14 mx_ivan hola 18:14 wahanui hey, mx_ivan 18:14 mx_ivan Hola 17:28 Joubu have a good evening #koha 17:18 misilot thanks ashimema 17:11 mx_ivan hello how use link_bibs_to_authorities.pl? 16:53 jeremy-local_ Hi Guys! 16:41 tcohen Joubu++ 16:35 cait Joubu++ 16:16 mx_ivan how search by 2 limits? 16:15 mx_ivan how sear by 2 limit? 16:15 mx_ivan Hola 16:14 ashimema so not about yet 16:14 ashimema dcook is your man for that sort of question misilot.. but he's aussie timezone.. 15:58 misilot can Koha ingest OAI-PMH sources such as a DSpace repository? 15:10 reiveune bye 14:36 M_xBoy Hello! 14:14 alex_a Joubuinou \o 14:14 Joubu Hi alexounet ;) 14:14 alex_a hi indradg 14:14 indradg hi alex_a_ 14:14 indradg thanks for adding the logging support to suggestions edit patch matts :) 14:11 matts :) 14:11 indradg :) 14:11 khall : ) 14:11 cait also Joubu++ indradg++ and matts++ :) 14:10 cait lots of dev talk here today 14:10 cait alex_a++ khall++ communicating :) 14:08 khall np! 14:08 alex_a_ thx 14:08 alex_a_ khall: I think we can remove this dependency since 5144 prevents patrons from placing multiple holds and 7710 do the opposite 14:05 khall If you want to remove the dependency that's fine by me 14:05 khall but I'm not sure that makes a lot of sense. 14:05 khall we'll need to allow "duplicate" holds when we allow multiple holds 14:05 khall it's hard to recall, but I do believe it's basically because we 14:03 alex_a_ khall: A question about BZ 7710 and 5144. You make 7710 depends on 5144. Can you tell me why ? 14:02 khall yo 14:02 alex_a_ khall: (hello :)) 14:02 alex_a_ khall: around ? 13:41 nengard morning magnuse and #koha 13:39 pianohacker fair nuff, thanks Joubu 13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14389 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Editing a syspref in a textarea does not enable the Save button 13:38 Joubu pianohacker: the patch on bug 14389 works well to me, I signed it off. 13:37 talljoy hiya magnuse 13:37 talljoy ha! 13:36 * magnuse waves at talljoy and nengard, then abruptly wanders off 13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14389 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Editing a syspref in a textarea does not enable the Save button 13:21 cait bug 14389 13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14398 was not found. 13:21 cait bug 14398 13:20 cait I have the word of a lbirary that it works with Koha - you shoudl be fine :) 13:17 drojf i have not tried yet, waiting for the account 13:17 cait pm 13:17 drojf cait: that would be great, it is about DNB ;) 13:17 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded. 13:17 pianohacker @later tell wizzyrea Well, as far as 14389 goes, I think you're right on the money. Even has support in everything we care about for the staff client. I'd say the patch is yours, you figured it out, thanks for the useful tidbit :) 13:13 cait drojf: i was thinking sru was kind of always marcxml hm. 13:12 cait drojf: i have a screenshot somewhere on how to configure dnb 13:12 cait drojf: did you try? 13:08 pianohacker yo 13:01 drojf does koha understand MARCXML syntax from SRU servers? there is only "MARC21/USMARC" as an option in the list, i guess that will not work for MARCXML? 12:42 cait heh 12:34 magnuse hm, i upgraded a database straight from 3.0.6 to current master and nothing exploded - that feels weird... 12:22 matts indradg, I'll add the logging part 11:40 cait :) 11:37 indradg heh i got hold of Joubu and asked my newbie QA questions cait 11:29 cait kind of 11:18 indradg cait: around? 10:23 huginn indradg: The operation succeeded. 10:23 indradg @later tell matts_away what do you think about bug 14376 10:21 matts indradg, okay, thanks ! 10:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14368 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , Add discharges history 10:20 indradg matts: bug 14368 10:02 matts Oh, by the way, Joubu, I've provided another fix for 12802 09:58 indradg I'll file a linked bug to 8007, 14368 about the indian requirement and work on it 09:58 matts indradg++ 09:58 matts Nice :) 09:58 indradg matts: absolutely! in fact, I'll do the sign off immediately 09:57 matts indradg, so we can put 14368 back in Need Signoff, and create another issue for the syspref that would prevent the debarment lift ? 09:55 indradg matts: +1 09:55 matts Okay, this solution works for me. 09:55 indradg but i wanted to discuss it here first before creating any confusion accidentally 09:54 cait lunch time - bbl! 09:54 indradg just extending 8007 and associated patches 09:54 indradg not it should not be a blocker 09:54 cait they are compatible - it shoudl not block it - it's a separate feature 09:53 cait hm what i think is that you should work on a feature to disallow lifting on top of matts patch probably 09:53 indradg so far people were using a custom report and mail merging outside koha 09:52 indradg yes, but generation of that letter was the key 09:52 indradg matts: disallow lifting of discharge debarment, removes the normal navbar tabs, and switches around some of the text 09:52 matts indradg, you are aware that without my patch, a librarian can already lift the discharge debarment manually, right ? 09:51 indradg unfortunately without the pref that Joubu mentions, my suggestions have come back to bit me 09:51 matts Joubu, indradg, but a syspref that does what exactly ? 09:50 indradg in fact, I've been recommending 3.20 primarily because of matts patch 09:50 matts okay 09:49 Joubu matts: fwiw, your patch looks good to me 09:49 indradg Joubu: yes :P 09:49 Joubu I think indradg wants to add a new pref :p 09:49 matts cait, yep, currently the debarment can be removed. 09:49 indradg hmm 09:48 matts otherwise the student stays discharged no matter what. 09:48 matts indradg, but only if a librarian allows it. 09:48 indradg currently they are allowed to do all this cait 09:48 indradg cait: as it stands, a discharged student in indian context should not be allowed to be 'un-discharged', discharge is permanent, second a discharged student must not be able to access holds, reserves, make suggestions, tag clouds etc 09:47 cait matts: correct me if i am wrong :) 09:47 matts If no librarian lift the discharge debarment on purpose, there is only one discharge. 09:47 cait it's already possible now to lift the restriction - i thik the new bit only adds logging for when you do and repeat? 09:47 matts indradg, in my opinion, such a system would work for the both of use. 09:46 indradg nothing like that here 09:46 cait indradg: hm i think i don't undertsand how the new feature bit would influence your workflw 09:46 matts I guess some universities are using the discharge system for summer vacations. If the patron continues to study the following year, they lift the discharge, and the patron can use the library again. 09:46 indradg what I would like to do here is work along with matts, so that both the french / european flow and the Indian flow can be managed 09:44 indradg matts: in this case changing cardnumber wont be possible 09:44 indradg and deleting discharged students is always not an option as govt funded bodies need to maintain records for 7 years 09:44 matts I guess this is the need : being able to "reactivate" the user account 09:44 cait if you reregister them... no need for mulitple discharges, but it won't hurt that it's possible in theory 09:43 matts cait, yep 09:43 cait but i thik what matts said it's true - it's compatible 09:43 cait indradg: the often keep their id here 09:43 indradg new registration, new id, new access 09:42 indradg a student may complete his bachelor degree - clearance - re admit in post grad masters program 09:42 indradg matts, Joubu ^^^ 09:41 indradg in Indian context this is what happens - a student applies for a 'library clearance', library checks agains dues, fines etc. if all are clear, they get this. Without library clearance, a passing out student usually cant do the following - take the final test, access transcripts, award of the diploma certificate, re-claim back library security deposit 09:40 matts Joubu, done 09:38 matts So it would be compatible with the way you use it (only one discharge) 09:38 matts indradg, but please note that another discharge is only possible is the librarian lift the discharge debarment for the user. 09:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8007 new feature, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Discharge management 09:38 Joubu please link it to bug 8007 09:38 indradg Joubu: what I understood of the French system is that your clearance certificate is like our 'migration / transfer' certificate. 09:37 Joubu bugnumber? 09:37 indradg matts: thanks 09:37 matts I've seen the questions/comments on this issue, and I'll provide use cases to properly explain why it is needed 09:36 cait so that could lead to multiple discharges... 09:36 wahanui cait: that doesn't look right 09:36 cait or change the study 09:36 cait indradg: hm i think what happens here sometimes is that they come back for a masters 09:36 matts yep 09:36 Joubu matts: around? 09:35 Joubu indradg: actually you don't need a discharge to leave, but you will need it to register to a new university 09:35 Joubu indradg: I am not aware what matts is doing 09:33 indradg In indian context a multiple discharge can't be done. once a student receives the discharge certificate, all interaction with the library ends. 09:32 indradg but then Matthias seems to be working on something that talks about 'multiple discharge' 09:31 indradg from your comment on 8007, what i understood is that this required when a student wants to leave an institutional library 09:31 indradg great 09:30 Joubu What do you want to know? 09:30 Joubu indradg: I have them :) 09:28 indradg Joubu: when you have a few minutes, would like to understand from you the underlaying logic of 'discharge management' in French context. Apparently it is different in India 09:28 * cait waves - thx for QA! 09:27 Joubu indradg: yep 09:27 indradg Joubu: around? 09:27 huginn indradg: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 25 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <Joubu> wrong chan :) 09:27 indradg @seen Joubu 08:02 magnuse bonjour anyway Joubu :-) 08:01 Joubu wrong chan :) 08:01 Joubu pas vraiment non 08:00 Joubu hello #koha 07:46 cait hi magnuse 07:44 magnuse kia ora cait! 07:10 dcook Laterz 07:10 dcook On that note, I better leave! 07:04 sophie_m hi #koha 07:04 sophie_m bonjour magnuse :) 07:03 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 07:01 alex_a hello magnuse :) 07:00 magnuse kia ora alex_a! 07:00 alex_a bonjour 06:52 magnuse dang, well it was worth a try 06:48 dcook I just got a text from my wife telling me that I had better leave on time, magnuse :p 06:48 dcook Hehe 06:45 magnuse dcook: come on, you know you want to pull an allnighter to fix it properly 06:42 dcook But I think the collection code thing may be my only contribution for the time being.. 06:41 dcook The inventory tool must be the least intuitive part of Koha at this point... 06:37 reiveune salut magnuse 06:37 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:36 wahanui bidet, reiveune 06:36 reiveune hello 06:36 * drojf often feels like being 342 years old at this time of day 06:35 drojf lol 06:35 * magnuse is actually 342 years old 06:32 dcook Or maybe.. 06:31 dcook Hmm maybe not 06:31 dcook Ok I think I might have another thing to try to 'splode.. 06:26 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 12.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 16, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 06:26 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 06:25 dcook Hmm, that doesn't sound right 06:24 eythian dcook is the zeitgeist 06:23 dcook wizzyrea: It's odd that the twitter thing about inventory v. shelf-read is happening while I'm looking at inventory now... 06:23 * dcook decides to finally just read the manual like a reasonable person to re-learn all the things about inventory 06:23 dcook Of course, magnuse will outlive us all because of his being partially frozen all year round 06:22 magnuse heh, i am beginning to suspect you are right, eythian 06:21 dcook hehe 06:21 eythian dcook: you're not doing winter right 06:21 dcook And I'm complaining about it being chilly... 06:20 * dcook agrees with eythian 06:20 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (4:00 PM AEST on June 16, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 06:20 dcook @wunder syd 06:19 eythian magnuse: you're not doing summer right 06:19 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on June 16, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 06:19 eythian @wunder nzwn 06:19 drojf hei magnuse 06:19 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 8.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 16, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 06:19 magnuse @wunder boo 06:19 magnuse moin drojf 06:18 drojf hi dcook 06:17 dcook morning, drojf 06:17 dcook I think I get that "Mark seen and quit" and "Mark Seen and Continue" will update the "Date last seen" 06:17 drojf good morning #koha 06:17 * dcook has no idea what the "Continue without Marking" button is for 06:16 dcook Hmm test one didn't explode anything 06:11 dcook Yeah! :D 06:10 magnuse only one way to find out... 06:08 dcook Hmm so I have the inventory only showing the items from my collection... but am I going to destroy everything if I do anything now... 05:51 magnuse one of these days i'll get one of those static site genereators up and going and put a torch to it 05:50 magnuse ooh, my company website is 6 years and 1 day old 05:49 magnuse so true 05:48 eythian everyone is born knowing English, though. It's only strange places where they buck the trend and do it all wrong. 05:47 magnuse translating - such fun! 05:45 magnuse kia ora eythian 05:43 eythian hi magnuse 05:42 * magnuse waves 05:22 dcook Hmm, brain might explode.. 05:17 huginn` dcook: The operation succeeded. 05:17 dcook @later tell mtompset you might find bug 14393 interesting 05:17 huginn` dcook: mtompset was last seen in #koha 3 days, 16 hours, 10 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <mtompset> The header format for public reports. 05:17 dcook @seen mtompset 05:03 eythian the net result is that whenever you want to sort by "heading", I need to convert that into "heading.phrase", otherwise it'll sort on the tokenised form, which causes unexpected results. 05:02 dcook I'm going to stop whingeing and just work on this inventory thing 05:01 * dcook isn't going down the ES rabbit hole today 05:01 dcook I'm not clicking that link though :p 05:01 eythian haha 05:01 * dcook imagined eythian just standing there looking very pensive and saying slowly "I think all the time". 05:00 dcook I totally took that last line out of context 04:59 eythian I think all the time. 04:59 eythian now I just need to figure out when to use it. 04:59 eythian fortunately, I already have a not_analysed field handy. 04:59 eythian https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/multi-fields.html <-- this, specifically 04:59 eythian hmm, sorting in ES has some hidden gotchas that I just discovered 04:58 dcook hehe 04:58 eythian it was pretty easy said. 04:56 dcook Well... maybe not 04:55 dcook But... I think it might be easier said than done 04:55 * dcook is looking to add "collection code" to the Inventory 04:53 dcook Hmm, I'll report a bug and then keep chugging along 04:52 eythian yeah, it's in the few months old version of master I'm working on too 04:52 * dcook wonders where else that happens.. 04:51 dcook Looks like it's part of the CSV export 04:51 dcook Yeah, it's still there in master 04:50 dcook Hmm.. I'll check really quickly 04:50 rangi yeah, id fix that, or fail it if it's a new patch 04:50 rangi hence them having to call it from the whole namespace 04:50 rangi which is exactly why its not exported 04:49 * dcook agrees 04:49 eythian I tend to think that the point of subs starting with _ is that it means they're internal 04:49 dcook That's... different? 04:49 dcook ... 04:49 dcook my $columns_def_hashref = C4::Reports::Guided::_get_column_defs($input); 04:48 dcook :D 04:48 dcook Mmm an almost total lack of comments 04:46 wizzyrea yeah, nah 04:46 * dcook also doesn't really want to learn the ins and outs of the inventory tool right now 04:46 * dcook has no idea about ldap :/ 04:45 * dcook is reading scrollback 04:45 dcook Boo onblur 04:02 eythian I think it does from the look of the Auth_with_ldap module 04:01 eythian it's pretty separate code 04:01 wizzyrea it handles attributes 04:01 wizzyrea but maybe there's a precedent with the patron import code? 04:00 wizzyrea pass 04:00 eythian does anyone know anything about linking LDAP fields to extended attributes? 03:45 wizzyrea and IE7+ 03:45 wizzyrea i.e. supported in ff3+ 03:44 wizzyrea and it's oooold 03:44 eythian huh, neither 03:43 * wizzyrea did not know 03:43 wizzyrea oh wow there's an onpaste event 03:37 eythian ah 03:36 wizzyrea but broke even more 03:36 wizzyrea well it fixed the other case 03:36 eythian how'd that even get in? 03:36 wizzyrea extremely 03:36 eythian how annoying 03:36 wizzyrea bad deal. 03:36 wizzyrea >.< 03:36 wizzyrea so now you have to click outside the box to get it to activate 03:36 wizzyrea and made it even worse. 03:36 eythian ah 03:35 wizzyrea recently 03:35 wizzyrea well they changed it 03:35 eythian It's good to do it better though. 03:35 eythian oh, right. That's really common. It's just that they look for keydown type events. 03:35 wizzyrea but there's a patch 03:35 wizzyrea the trigger that tells there's a change just isn't working right 03:35 wizzyrea or even just edit a syspref. 03:35 wizzyrea or highlight everything and delete 03:35 wizzyrea no, like when you click, example opaccredits, and paste something in it doesn't activate the save button 03:34 eythian wizzyrea: like, the really old one? 03:32 wizzyrea embarrassing, really. 03:32 wizzyrea that is a bad deal./ 03:32 wizzyrea yeah wow, that syspref editor is completely wonky without pianohacker's patch. Holy gods 03:29 dcook hehe 03:20 wizzyrea it's perfectly sensible, of course. 03:20 wizzyrea NotHighlightedWords < this pref makes me giggle. 03:19 wizzyrea hm, time to change the default fallback theme from prog to bootstrap? 03:18 eythian heh 03:18 wizzyrea I need a special area of sysprefs called "good idea if only it was done properly" 03:17 wizzyrea HighlightOwnItemsOnOPACWhich 03:17 wizzyrea HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC 03:17 wizzyrea I can't even. 03:17 wizzyrea (Non-XSLT Only) < there is a pref that requires this still. 03:13 dcook Never quitting O_O 03:13 dcook not quitting 03:13 dcook with wizzyrea that is 03:13 * dcook agrees 03:02 wizzyrea not sure we can assume that. 03:02 wizzyrea You're right that items where the item type is not-for-loan display as "for reference" which is pretty silly. 03:00 wizzyrea that is so great. 03:00 wizzyrea still loving the batch edit from the detail page. 02:56 dcook Maybe I'll go in a bit :p 02:56 dcook Ok, I didn't really go 02:54 dcook bbiab 02:54 dcook Oh, that reminds me I missed lunch 02:54 wizzyrea hehe 02:54 dcook Now if only I had more time 02:54 dcook I heart you, wizzyrea :p 02:54 dcook Me too 02:54 wizzyrea I'd have to test it. ;) 02:54 dcook I'm giving you the side eye :p 02:54 wizzyrea i'm giving you the side eye. 02:54 dcook I think that's just the detail view 02:53 dcook Not in the search results I don't think 02:53 wizzyrea and it can say whatever you want 02:53 wizzyrea you can add authorised values for that >.> 02:53 wizzyrea at least, it accomplishes the view that is desired by mosty libraries 02:53 dcook Then I cheated in C4::XSLT and the XSLT to make it show up as "electronically" instead of "For reference" 02:53 wizzyrea which I think is a perfectly fine way to do it 02:53 dcook Yeah, that's how I do it 02:52 wizzyrea with a use restriction 02:52 dcook Which... Ive already implemented locally in a not super great way 02:52 wizzyrea you can do that now 02:52 wizzyrea I think there should be only one place to say "we do not loan this" 02:52 dcook I suppose the thing I'd like to see the most would still be "Available (electronically)" 02:52 dcook Fair point though 02:52 wizzyrea ^ extreme edge case 02:52 dcook I suppose I'd call that "Available (for recall)" 02:52 wahanui i guess Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 02:52 dcook Interesting 02:52 dcook O_O 02:52 wizzyrea because you know, they can recall it. 02:52 wizzyrea I mean, in some libraries an item is available, even if it isn't in the library. 02:51 dcook But it's still whingeing, yeah? 02:51 wizzyrea :) 02:51 dcook English is hard :p 02:51 wizzyrea priming :) 02:51 wizzyrea because everyone defines that differently 02:51 dcook primeing? 02:51 wizzyrea I have always contended that availability is a pretty loose concept in Koha 02:51 dcook I keep thinking it does, but I can't remember what it is... besides priming the Add Item form.. 02:50 dcook I'm trying to remember if 942$c even has a point anymore... 02:50 dcook the whole "status" thing could use some work 02:50 dcook Yeah, that's true 02:35 wizzyrea (of course they can't loan it - it doesn't really exist) 02:35 wizzyrea i.e. if you mark something "ordered" in that not for loan value, borrowers can still place holds on the items. 02:34 wizzyrea and that also they have different behaviour? 02:29 wizzyrea isn't the real problem there that there are two different ways to mark something not-for-loan? 01:03 dcook I was hoping it was one of those things that was already fixed in newer versions 01:03 * dcook might add another patch as well 01:03 dcook Although I'm not sure it actually solves the problem.. 01:03 dcook Well, the only patch is recent :p 00:59 eythian ...and it still needs signoff... 00:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3333 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , item status for "not for loan" by item type / item is different 00:58 dcook Apparently bug 3333 was the very first bug that cait filed! :o 00:52 dcook I'll have to ask tcohen, I guess\ 00:39 jcamins I don't remember. 00:39 jcamins But I think it might be plural. 00:38 dcook Neato 00:38 dcook Oh yeah? 00:37 jcamins tcohen's company! 00:34 dcook What's "Theke Solution"?