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23:59 drojf i ordered it beginning of march. heh
23:59 eythian And I'm close to china, from a shipping point of view.
23:59 eythian I've had things take a couple of months.
23:59 eythian odds are they sent it to a distribution point in Sweden from China and then sent a bunch of things from there, or something like that.
23:58 drojf and the last one ^^
23:58 drojf well, it was only my second time i think
23:58 drojf i know, but not like that
23:58 eythian drojf: DX has _terrible_ shipping times, in general
23:57 dcook Not sure if the response was written 7 years later or if it just took that long to work out my new address..
23:57 * dcook think he wrote the letter when he was 7 and got a response when he was about 14-15 in a different town
23:57 drojf oh yeah i got something from dealextreme. after about a gazillion weeks. like twice the very long delivery time they estimate anyway. it says it came from sweden Oo
23:57 dcook Maybe longer...
23:56 dcook I once got a response to a fan letter about 7 years later?
23:56 dcook O_O
23:56 drojf :D
23:56 eythian drojf: I once had a parcel where they'd printed "Namibia" instead of "New Zealand". It was a few months late, but it got here.
23:55 dcook drojf: *sadface*
23:54 drojf lol. i sent a package across the country. it got stuck in a loop from one place to the other and back, because the machines read a wrong post code. after 8 days it managed to get on delivery tour, but it wasn't delivered. instead it is now "temporarily stored in the delivery depot until delivery". in the german version it says that is due to holiday. there is no holiday
23:54 wizzyrea lol a koha server is heavy machinery lol
23:48 drojf and since i am my own boss, i know he'll be ok with it :P
23:48 drojf :D
23:48 drojf a koha server
23:48 wizzyrea are you operating heavy machinery?
23:47 drojf heh. i'll tell my boss wizzyrea allowed it
23:44 wizzyrea never.
23:32 drojf i guess it's too late for a nightcap :|
23:32 * drojf yawns
23:24 wizzyrea that is pretty silly
23:13 eythian http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/~fanf2/hermes/doc/qsmtp/draft-fanf-wtf8.fmt <-- "The key words "WHAT", "DAMNIT", "GOOD GRIEF", "FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE", "RIDICULOUS", "BLOODY HELL", and "DIE IN A GREAT BIG CHEMICAL FIRE" in this memo are to be interpreted as described in [RFC2119]."
22:56 mtj ..might be handy for HEA stuff too?
22:50 mtj yep, easy peasy rangi :)
22:48 mtj ..so, you could potentially use it with a 'tombstone' feature
22:47 rangi play even
22:47 rangi it'd just be a matter of setting it up for a couple of koha, and having a ply
22:47 mtj moz are using it to track error msgs, even
22:46 mtj ...could be useful for Koha project
22:45 mtj https://github.com/mozilla/telemetry-dashboard
22:44 mtj https://telemetry.mozilla.org/docs.html#Telemetry
22:44 mtj https://telemetry.mozilla.org
22:44 mtj a bit off topic, i spotted this recently...
22:43 mtj yep, gotcha
22:36 wizzyrea not for posts, necessarily, but for pages.
22:35 wizzyrea it'll be nice because now I have the infrastructure to do other things like that
22:35 mtj ..its a graet idea :)
22:35 mtj wizzyrea: awesome werk on the history.txt update ^
22:34 * mtj has had a busy week
22:32 mtj hey folks, i'm gonna finish the 3.16.11 release today...
22:30 rangi cya tcohen
22:30 eythian bye tcohen
22:30 eythian hi tcohen
22:30 mtj cya tcohen :0)
22:29 tcohen night everyone
22:26 cait night
22:26 cait :D
22:26 tcohen you're always invited btw
22:26 tcohen but i heard around julyl 2nd
22:26 tcohen we haven't set a date
22:26 wizzyrea dopey, ssh keys still not working
22:25 cait tcohen: and no invitation? :)
22:25 tcohen my pleasure
22:23 wizzyrea (in a little bit)
22:23 * wizzyrea makes the history updates on the website automagic
22:23 wizzyrea tcohen++ thanks for pushing that patch for me
22:21 tcohen cait: we are having our own
22:16 eythian tcohen: I don't
22:14 eythian hi
21:54 rangi that'd do it
21:54 wizzyrea I think it's mostly that I was trying with user liz
21:53 wizzyrea :) ikr
21:53 rangi ahh try with the dsa one then ;)
21:53 wizzyrea I just looked, the DSA ones match
21:53 wizzyrea I have both
21:53 wizzyrea well that one's rsa
21:53 rangi hmm but doesnt match the one you pasted
21:53 rangi first one is wizzyrea
21:52 wizzyrea hm that first one should be right - is the user liz or wizzyrea
21:51 wizzyrea ah right DSA
21:51 rangi those are the keys i have
21:51 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "keys for wizzyrea" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/122
21:50 wizzyrea but, that is fine I'll send you the right key
21:50 wizzyrea Permission denied (publickey). fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
21:47 wizzyrea well more than 2 shakes I guess - but I will do it here in a short time.
21:34 wizzyrea yes - 2 shakes
21:34 rangi wizzyrea: can you try pushing to 3.18.x now? (if you have something to push)
21:34 wizzyrea hallo?
21:33 cait did i hear hackfest?
21:29 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
21:29 tcohen @later tell bgkriegel we will work on that during the hackfest
21:29 huginn tcohen: I've exhausted my database of quotes
21:29 tcohen @bgkriegel we will work on that during the hackfest
21:28 tcohen eythian: do you know apt-mark?
20:23 bgkriegel Bye for now
20:23 bgkriegel Hehe
20:23 mtompset CentOS if you are feeling a little crazy. ;)
20:22 mtompset And you should have 4 boxes at least: ubuntu 12.04 LTS, ubuntu 14.04 LTS, debian 7, and debian 8. :P
20:22 bgkriegel yes :)
20:22 mtompset About to test on Debian 7.
20:20 mtompset well, as long as it still works in your environment that is NOT debian 8, that's a good thing. :)
20:19 bgkriegel and i still don't have a debian 8 box
20:18 bgkriegel but it's something for Perl 5.20, it worked for me previously (Comment #5)
20:17 mtompset I'd ask you for a sign off, but I really want to figure out why it wasn't working for aleisha.
20:16 bgkriegel yep, works for me
20:14 mtompset bgkriegel: What about now 14121 still works?
20:01 mtompset I wonder...
20:00 mtompset oh... plak?
19:54 huginn tcohen: cait was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 49 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <cait> time for breakfast and conf - bye #koha
19:54 tcohen @seen cait
19:51 wahanui kia ora, tcohen
19:51 tcohen hi
18:59 tcohen bye every1
18:57 tcohen something was messing Aleisha's environment
18:56 tcohen env variables?
18:55 mtompset So, how can I fix it? It seems fine.
18:48 tcohen and no warnings :-D
18:48 bgkriegel nope, "All tests successful"
18:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14121 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Failed QA , Silence warnings t/db_dependent/Auth_with_cas.t
18:47 mtompset Oops... bug 14121
18:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=141121 was not found.
18:46 mtompset bgkriegel, tcohen: Can you replicate the failure that aleisha experienced in comment #8 of bug 141121
18:27 gaetan_B bye
18:26 mtompset I'm talking about you and bgkriegel :P
18:25 tcohen but who knows
18:25 tcohen won't be able to make it for a while
18:25 wahanui well, ontario is all right. Just the politicians have issues.
18:25 tcohen ontario?
18:23 mtompset I think someone owes someone a drink after work ;)
18:20 tcohen :-P
18:20 bgkriegel i know... :)
18:20 tcohen bgkriegel: my fault
18:18 mtompset 14116
18:17 bgkriegel no problem :)
18:17 mtompset bgkriegel: Sorry, your signoff was undone in the squash. Care to retest now? :)
18:16 mtompset There. Better?
18:14 tcohen squash them
18:13 mtompset I didn't merge the two commits.
18:13 mtompset on the second patch?
18:13 tcohen you are writing print instead of diag
18:12 mtompset Check out the second commit on the bug report. :)
18:12 mtompset that's what I did. :)
18:12 tcohen all the "print"
18:12 tcohen them
18:12 tcohen actually, just delete
18:12 tcohen or leave them as a comment
18:11 tcohen mtompset: just delete them :-D
18:05 mtompset okay... second commit coming up.
18:05 tcohen so the tests are of more use
18:04 tcohen the point is to reduce "noise" in general, right?
18:04 tcohen and also on the same patch heh
18:04 tcohen i do
18:02 mtompset Just curious if you were expecting all the output cleaned up on the same bug report.
18:02 tcohen what about it?
18:02 huginn 04Bug 14116: minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Silence noise t/Scrubber.t
18:02 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
18:02 mtompset @later tell tcohen http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14116#c6
18:01 mtompset Greetings, druthb. :)
18:01 druthb ohai, mtompset
18:00 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 41 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <tcohen> heh :-D
18:00 mtompset @seen tcohen
18:00 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
17:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13946: Change order status 'Pending' to 'Ordered' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=480ac8667971a638b4b27d0dc8e5bb29f9f2a372> / Bug 14275: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from guided_reports.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=764b425c1ce0573f9b02bfa3b9b2425137630f0c> / Bug 14112: Silence warnings in t/Charset.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a
17:26 drojf TestingKohaLink++ # very successful testing
17:25 TestingKohaLink Testing. :)
16:45 khall np!
16:45 Joubu khall: thanks for the quick SO!
16:44 khall Joubu: that's what I thought but I just wanted to double check
16:44 Joubu but I can be wrong
16:44 Joubu To me it's the expected behavior
16:44 Joubu khall: answered :)
16:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14098 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Regression in Marc Modification Templates
16:36 khall Joubu: updated bug 14098
16:14 drojf why is the manual at translate.koha-community.org? like http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.18/en/html-desktop/ while http://manual.koha-community.org/manual/3.18/en/html-desktop/ (manual subdomain) is not working
15:28 xarragon tcohen: Well, I already use temporary DBs for testing kohastructure.sql, but if I do the generation step I could actually update the tests. Which is mandatory anyway for any changes to the DB, so.. good advice
15:08 fridolin see u
15:04 reiveune bye
14:49 talljoy i'm loving the new manual 'style'. it's pretty cool. easy on the eyes!
14:46 bgkriegel Hi talljoy :)
14:45 talljoy hi bgkriegel
14:43 bgkriegel hi
14:21 talljoy i think i need a redo of the last flight i took.
14:21 nengard would love a first trip to south america :) hehe
14:19 tcohen heh :-D
14:19 geek_cl oh
14:19 talljoy Would love another trip to South America
14:18 talljoy Si!
14:14 nengard but if you do it the same time every year we can plan to come next july
14:13 talljoy and i'm on vacation those weeks. darn it
14:12 nengard eeek, that's not much prep time
14:09 tcohen begining of july is winning the bid
14:08 talljoy depends when it is!
14:07 nengard oooooooo
14:07 tcohen it will be held in Buenos Aires :-D
14:07 tcohen please come!
14:06 talljoy ooo i wanna go!
14:05 tcohen yay, almost ready to set a date for the Argentinian hackfest :-D
14:04 talljoy morning
13:55 tcohen with dobrica we included Koha::Schema already in Marseille
13:55 tcohen ah, yes
13:53 Jul tcohen, No (wrong Julian ^^), Subject : Improving Plack intranet performances (circulation module)
13:52 tcohen mod_perl?
13:51 paul_p hi tcohen = about plack patch you just talked of with Jul = have you seen his mail on koha-devel. Worth taking it in account !
13:51 tcohen and then run misc/devel/update_dbix_class_files.pl -db_name dbic
13:51 tcohen in which you load kohastructure.sql
13:51 tcohen xarragon: I suggest that you create a dbic database, which you can drop/create
13:49 xarragon magnuse: Ok, thanks
13:48 * magnuse wanders off to cook some whale
13:47 magnuse (you could always mess with your database tables, but i assume that is not what you mean)
13:47 magnuse no, those are the ways to get db changes into koha
13:47 xarragon (just curious, since it sounded in a comment on the ticket that it might be possile)
13:46 xarragon magnuse: Any other way of changing the schema, other than editing the kohastruct.sql (and the atomic update)?
13:46 magnuse that generates the files in Koha/Schema/Result/*.pm
13:45 magnuse http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/devel/update_dbix_class_files.pl
13:44 magnuse there is a script for that
13:44 magnuse xarragon: yes, the .pm files are generated from the database
13:42 xarragon Might as well learn it.. But I have a schema change, presently in SQL.. Which might be rewritten in DBIx if I need to learn it.
13:41 xarragon spelling++ there on the 'L's
13:41 xarragon Or are there two definitions in paralllel during the transition to DBIx?
13:40 xarragon I am not very familiar with DBIx unfortunately. It seems like it generates PM with schema info, and this info is taken from the database. And that is why, to change the schema, the changes are only needed in atomicupdate and kohastructure.sql?
13:39 tcohen misilot: u r welcome
13:34 magnuse xarragon: you're welcome ;-)
13:34 misilot thanks tcohen i think it might be the course_reserves table doesn't have a FKC to cascade delete the course item id. (Commented on the ticket) Thank you again!
13:32 xarragon Nevermind.
13:32 xarragon Ah, it is simply the DBIx class name.
13:29 xarragon Anyone knows how the tables are mapped into TestBuilder's names?
13:29 nengard heheh
13:25 magnuse nah, i always worry about bugs when i eat pizza
13:21 nengard mine is better :)
13:21 nengard LOL
13:21 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
13:21 nengard magnuse!
13:20 wahanui nengard is probably the queen of documentation.
13:20 magnuse nengard!
13:15 tcohen Joubu: i'd like to review those patches from Mason, and have them pushed soon. They are good ones.
13:14 Joubu tcohen: oops yes, I suppose my repo was not up-to-date :-/
13:11 tcohen Joubu: that line *is* reverted
13:10 tcohen or a cascade delete
13:10 tcohen misilot: there should be a constrain preventing that
13:10 tcohen misilot: that might be a problem with the model
13:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14205 major, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Deleting an Item/Record does not remove link to course reserve
13:09 misilot thanks tcohen trying to pin point bug 14205
13:08 tcohen look for "sub DelItem"
13:08 tcohen misilot: C4/Items.pm
13:07 misilot I guess it might only be morning here
13:07 misilot Good morning, I was wondering if someone could point me to where the code is for when an item is deleted? (ie what queries are run?) Thanks!
13:05 tcohen eythian++
13:02 magnuse barton: ah, so something related to the ajax'ifying of that page, perhaps?
12:49 barton magnuse: re-reading the description, it seems that it's the rendering of the checked out items on the circ screen that's causing the issues, and not under all browsers. :-/
12:48 barton tcohen++
12:47 magnuse tcohen++ for 3.20.0, btw!
12:47 magnuse barton: really weird if it is just some pages!
12:46 magnuse tcohen: you win :-)
12:39 tcohen hi barton
12:34 barton good morning tcohen
12:34 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 13.3°C (9:30 AM ART on May 27, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising).
12:34 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:34 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 9.0°C (2:00 PM CEST on May 27, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
12:34 tcohen @wunder boo
12:33 wahanui salut, tcohen
12:33 tcohen hi
12:31 barton ... and they've only complained about a couple of pages.
12:30 barton I've been cruising around on their staff client, by and large, it looks ok.
12:29 magnuse hm, I can't get 'zh-Hans-TW' to show up anywhere after i install it
12:26 magnuse and does it look like this on every page, both opac and intranet?
12:26 barton hmmm... good point.
12:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
12:25 magnuse it just struck me that bug 11944 might for some reason clash with this one language - but that is just a hunch
12:21 barton Off hand, I'm not sure, but probably 3.16.
12:20 magnuse and does it affect all pages or just some
12:20 magnuse what was it upgraded from?
12:20 magnuse wow, that looks pretty broken...
12:20 barton We've re-built the language pack, to no avail.
12:19 barton I've got an issue with a koha installation that was upgraded to 3.18 over the weekend... they use the 'zh-Hans-TW' language pack, and text on several pages isn't rendering correctly. see https://qsnapnet.com/snaps/z9hqgamqw9sy8pv for example.
12:13 barton morning all!
11:21 marcelr hi #koha
10:23 huginn magnuse: unknown field/subfield combination (952/p)
10:23 magnuse @marc 952 p
09:36 xarragon Joubu: The example you pointed me to has exactly what I need, fake borrowers. Awesome.
08:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , UT: The unit tests cannot be launched by everyone
08:41 Joubu xarragon: ok, it should be ok. I use the DB generated by the script on bug 10337. It will create quickly a valid DB
08:41 xarragon Joubu: Thanks for all the pointers; If I am messing with the db schema I need to be very careful about what I do and what effects it has.
08:38 xarragon Joubu: No, so far I have just tested using my own Koha install and manually setting up dbs with kohastructure.sql loaded into them to do basic testing of any changes.
08:23 Joubu see http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=39147 /search for TooMany.t
08:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add specific quotas to on-site checkout
08:23 Joubu have a look at Bug 14045 for an example
08:22 Joubu xarragon: you can use TestBuilder to generate random data for tests
08:21 Joubu xarragon: do you know how DB dependent tests work?
08:20 Joubu + my $aref = eval $xsub;
08:20 Joubu - my $aref = eval {$xsub};
08:20 Joubu If someone wants to use master, please make the following changes to C4/Dates.pm
08:10 gaetan_B who is using mod_perl on koha installs?
07:50 xarragon I am simply duplicating that now, extending it to the foreignly linked tables. But maybe there are specially reserved names or the like for testing purposes, to avoid collisions?
07:48 xarragon The existing code does something similar, querying for a branch name via SELECT and then adding one with a simple name.
07:47 xarragon I am writing a database test.. I need to add a borrwer as a test, is there any best practices to avoid colliding with existing data in the database?
07:31 gaetan_B hello
07:24 BobB yes, good point
07:24 xarragon BobB: It might actually say in the code style guide when I think about it.
07:23 Viktor Greetings #koha
07:22 xarragon BobB: Ah, well I guess I can just check the gitlogs.
07:18 BobB xarragon I am not a developer but I understand they should be separate, not merged
07:15 xarragon I am adding tests to a bugticket with an existing patch. Can that be an additional patch on top of it, or is it better merged together?
06:57 alex_a bonjour
06:51 drojf morning #koha
06:42 wahanui bonjour, reiveune
06:42 reiveune hello
06:04 cait time for breakfast and conf - bye #koha
05:47 cait hmpf
05:45 eythian though, smoked beers are pretty nice :)
05:45 eythian you're allowed to sell bears there?
05:44 cait eythian: was thinkingof you yesterday - we were at a rustic place here in nürnberg, selling lots of different bears, even some smoked ones
05:39 cait :)
05:38 eythian yeah :)
05:38 cait the spreadsheet one?
05:38 cait ah, amkes sense :)
05:37 eythian a family friend lives near there, I must have been visiting her.
05:36 cait what did you do in mannheim?
05:36 cait hi eythian :)
05:36 eythian hi cait
05:36 mveron hi cait :-)
05:36 cait hi mveron :)
05:31 * mveron would appreciate a higher temperature here...
05:30 eythian hmm, I'm surprised it's that warm here.
05:30 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on May 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
05:30 eythian @wunder nzwn
05:29 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 7.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on May 27, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
05:29 mveron @wunder Allschwil
05:29 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
04:34 indradg hi AmitG
04:06 mtompset Well, I need to be conscious enough to get my wife in the morning. Have a great day, #koha.
03:47 aleisha yeah just been doing stuff another branch and messed it up a little bit
03:47 mtompset Have you done a git fetch, git merge lately?
03:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14121 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Failed QA , Silence warnings t/db_dependent/Auth_with_cas.t
03:45 mtompset And what OS are you using to test bug 14121?
03:45 aleisha mtompset that's my own error don't worry
03:45 mtompset What are you talking about aleisha?
03:45 mtompset failed to merge?
03:31 AmitG hi indradg
03:17 aleisha ooh failed to merge
03:16 mtompset I had a newbie mistake: parameters backwards SUBSTR, STR vs. STR, SUBSTR.
03:15 aleisha i'll test now :)
03:15 mtompset I've posted a revision worthy of testing now. :)
03:15 aleisha yes that was me mtompset
02:59 mtompset Greetings, indradg. :)
02:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14113 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Silence warnings t/Date.t
02:59 mtompset aleisha: Was that you commenting on bug 14113? :)
02:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
02:08 kathryn thanks mtj
02:06 kathryn hi mtj :)
02:06 mtj kathryn, congrats too :0)
02:06 BobB kathryn, not you mtj :)
02:06 kathryn thank you bobb
02:06 BobB congratulations from both of us
02:06 mtj hey BobB, kathryn
02:06 BobB yes pls do
02:06 BobB seize the moment :)
02:05 kathryn I'll send you and Irma a photo
02:05 kathryn yes thanks bobb , baby's asleep, I'm working!
02:05 BobB all good?
02:05 BobB kathryn! hello
02:04 kathryn hello :)
02:04 BobB hi
02:03 mtj ..something that attempts to find out a bunch of useful info about a koha instance
02:03 mtj ive been thinking about a handy troubleshooting tool for koha...
02:01 eythian definitely on my want-to-do list, but not very near the top right now :/
02:00 mtj hmm, something to think about
01:55 eythian if we're just setting PERL5LIB
01:55 mtj yeah
01:54 eythian that's not a big deal though
01:54 eythian yeah
01:54 mtj koha/C4 vs koha/lib/C4
01:53 mtj the other subtle gotcha is that the 'lib' dir is in a diff. place in a git install
01:52 eythian i.e. it can tell its path when it's running, but then it's too late to change it as it's running
01:52 eythian that's a bootstrap problem.
01:51 mtj hmm, interesting to think that a koha cant deterine that info itself
01:50 eythian on the other hand, defining it in one place probably outweights that.
01:49 eythian yeah. It's also be possible to pull it from there, just a bit less elegant.
01:49 mtj thats about as good as it gets, currently
01:49 mtj SetEnv PERL5LIB "/home/mason/g/k/3.16.x"
01:49 mtj there is one set in each apache.conf
01:48 eythian there isn't, one would have to be created
01:47 mtj i went looking... there doesnt seem to be a canonical place for that
01:46 mtj nice
01:44 eythian that'd be the best place to start. we were thinking of perhaps adding a library path type thing to koha-conf, and then have a function that lets you set your PERL5LIB based on the instance name
01:42 mtj we need to get them using a better PERL5LIB path
01:40 eythian they do, yeah
01:40 mtj they all seem to assume that koha is installed in /usr/share/koha
01:40 eythian wizzyrea and I have been talking about it, had some plans. Just haven't done any implementation yet.
01:39 wahanui yeah, those are pretty good pronounciations :-)
01:39 mtj yeah, those
01:39 eythian or some other tools?
01:39 eythian mtj: you mean the koha- commands?
01:38 mtj hey #koha, how do people feel about a general effort to get the koha tools to work with a gitifyed setup